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(Newser)   It's been a warm winter in Sochi, Russia, and Olympic planners are worried about next year's Games. So they're hoarding 450,000 cubic meters of snow in a local mountain range   (newser.com) divider line 53
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2013-03-26 01:37:04 PM
I remember the year Buffalo had to truck in snow from Toronto for Winterfest (or was it the other way around)so I'll give these guys points for thinking ahead.
 
2013-03-26 02:53:50 PM
GLOBAL DERPING!!!
 
2013-03-26 02:53:51 PM
Snow hoarding should be an Olympic event.
 
2013-03-26 02:57:40 PM
Nothing wrong with that. I would call that good planning.
 
2013-03-26 02:58:48 PM
You would think the olympics of all people could afford snow makers that produce realistic snow.  I assume the argument is that artificial snow is crappy vs the real thing.
 
2013-03-26 02:59:27 PM
Why not get the snow from the Welsch sheepherders?  They don't want it.
 
2013-03-26 03:00:02 PM
All Gore is hot on it.
 
2013-03-26 03:01:43 PM
Do you have any idea what the street value of that mountain is?
 
2013-03-26 03:03:18 PM
Also, they have a year to figure out how to operate a bobsled track, because the test event this February was awful.
 
2013-03-26 03:08:28 PM
Actually some pretty inventive problem solving there.
 
2013-03-26 03:09:49 PM
This was a very odd winter. Even locals don't remember when was the last time they had such warm days in the mountains

But don't you dare call it global warming.
 
2013-03-26 03:11:10 PM
Here in Vermont, we pile up the snow in empty gondola cars at the railroad station and ship it out west to developers for clean fill.
 
2013-03-26 03:16:54 PM

Anderson's Pooper: I remember the year Buffalo had to truck in snow from Toronto for Winterfest (or was it the other way around)so I'll give these guys points for thinking ahead.


BC had to do the same thing for its winter games
 
2013-03-26 03:17:23 PM

Uzzah: Do you have any idea what the street value of that mountain is?


$2!!!
 
2013-03-26 03:21:07 PM
These are Putin's Olympics. He'll grind up Pussy Riot and spraypaint the gibs white if he has to.
 
2013-03-26 03:23:48 PM
But it's last year's snow. I see an asterisk.
 
2013-03-26 03:26:28 PM

vudukungfu: This was a very odd winter. Even locals don't remember when was the last time they had such warm days in the mountains

But don't you dare call it global warming.


Every time the earth goes through it's hot cycle, the next 30-50 years are utterly cold.
We will soon be on the verge of a mini ice age
It's fact. You can count on it.
 
2013-03-26 03:31:03 PM
wrex.images.worldnow.com
 
2013-03-26 03:31:06 PM

Alonjar: You would think the olympics of all people could afford snow makers that produce realistic snow.  I assume the argument is that artificial snow is crappy vs the real thing.


I think it has to be below freezing to make snow.  I think they just blow mist into the air and it comes down as snow.  Not sure, though.
 
2013-03-26 03:32:19 PM

ontariolightning: vudukungfu: This was a very odd winter. Even locals don't remember when was the last time they had such warm days in the mountains

But don't you dare call it global warming.

Every time the earth goes through it's hot cycle, the next 30-50 years are utterly cold.
We will soon be on the verge of a mini ice age
It's fact. You can count on it.


Dude, seriously. The Earth's climate was completely static until humanity changed it.

Completely. Static.
 
2013-03-26 03:33:28 PM
The Olympics are a waste of time. We should be spending more time making sure we are competitive on a intellectual level. We put so much stock on the fact that USA get gold medals while we chant USA, USA, USA from our armchairs. Thinking that we are better because we produce some that can skate a figure 8. I think as a country we should stay out of the Olympics until we get our education system fixed.
 
2013-03-26 03:36:37 PM

Carousel Beast: Dude, seriously. The Earth's climate was completely static until humanity changed it.

Completely. Static.


Is there anyone on either side of the argument that has ever seriously suggested this?

If you have to rely on dishonest arguments shouldn't you re-evaluate your position??
 
2013-03-26 03:37:53 PM
Isn't the place a summer resort?  srsly.

Gifted Many Few: The Olympics are a waste of time.


No.  Go troll somewhere else.  In the unlikely event you're not trolling, these are people who dedicate their lives to something and make global endorsement deals.  They aren't scientific minds, let them do this and inspire us.
 
2013-03-26 03:38:27 PM
The culprit:

sleeplessandtired.com
 
2013-03-26 03:39:41 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Alonjar: You would think the olympics of all people could afford snow makers that produce realistic snow.  I assume the argument is that artificial snow is crappy vs the real thing.

I think it has to be below freezing to make snow.  I think they just blow mist into the air and it comes down as snow.  Not sure, though.


There's a little more to it than just blowing mist (cooling effect as part of venturis, etc), but yes, it needs to be cold to make snow... not necessarily below freezing though, they can make it anywhere below 38 here, below 43 with some of the new top-end expensive snowmaking machines. That said, machine snow is nothing like what falls from the sky, it's crustier, harder to get your edges in (harder to turn) and has a very different ride profile. Fake snow to real snow is about the same as rollerblading to ice skating... they're kind of similar, but the muscle groups used can vary greatly depending on the frictive forces of the opposing surface.

/finally a fark topic I'm qualified to speak to.
 
2013-03-26 03:42:06 PM
> "special thermo seal"

Be afraid Olympic athletes... be very afraid.
 
2013-03-26 03:49:01 PM

thecpt: No.  Go troll somewhere else.  In the unlikely event you're not trolling, these are people who dedicate their lives to something and make global endorsement deals.  They aren't scientific minds, let them do this and inspire us.


Olympic athletes inspire? Please. This country has a record high obesity rate. What are they inspiring people to do? Eat at Subway. Sounds like a great plan. Work your whole life to peak at 30 and then whore sub par sandwiches. How inspiring.
 
2013-03-26 03:50:33 PM

firefly212: There's a little more to it than just blowing mist (cooling effect as part of venturis, etc), but yes, it needs to be cold to make snow... not necessarily below freezing though, they can make it anywhere below 38 here, below 43 with some of the new top-end expensive snowmaking machines. That said, machine snow is nothing like what falls from the sky, it's crustier, harder to get your edges in (harder to turn) and has a very different ride profile. Fake snow to real snow is about the same as rollerblading to ice skating... they're kind of similar, but the muscle groups used can vary greatly depending on the frictive forces of the opposing surface.

/finally a fark topic I'm qualified to speak to.


Thanks.  That's actually kinda of interesting.
 
2013-03-26 03:54:11 PM

Gifted Many Few: This country has a record high obesity rate.


because that's clearly what that is trying to do, never even mind the cliff dive the rest of your post takes off logic cliff.
 
2013-03-26 03:56:57 PM

Alonjar: You would think the olympics of all people could afford snow makers that produce realistic snow.  I assume the argument is that artificial snow is crappy vs the real thing.


I'm not sure that snow that has been horded for months would be much better, but yeah. Also, you can only make snow if the temperature is cold enough.

www.snowmakers.com
Bonus:  What snow guns might look like.
 
2013-03-26 04:04:45 PM

Gifted Many Few: The Olympics are a waste of time. We should be spending more time making sure we are competitive on a intellectual level. We put so much stock on the fact that USA get gold medals while we chant USA, USA, USA from our armchairs. Thinking that we are better because we produce some that can skate a figure 8. I think as a country we should stay out of the Olympics until we get our education system fixed.


A hearty chuckle did ensue.
 
2013-03-26 04:06:41 PM
edgecastcdn.net
 
2013-03-26 04:09:40 PM

Gifted Many Few: The Olympics are a waste of time. We should be spending more time making sure we are competitive on a intellectual level. We put so much stock on the fact that USA get gold medals while we chant USA, USA, USA from our armchairs. Thinking that we are better because we produce some that can skate a figure 8. I think as a country we should stay out of the Olympics until we get our education system fixed.


People STILL haven't forgiven Jimmy Carter for pulling out of the 1980 Olympics. That is not happening again around here. Not with Olympic years and election years matching up like they do.
 
2013-03-26 04:12:15 PM
I'm surprised they haven't held one in Dubai yet.... I guess the Olympic Committee hasn't received enough "consideration funding" yet.
 
2013-03-26 04:16:11 PM

Gosling: Not with Olympic years and election years matching up like they do.


Winter Games don't match up anymore.
 
2013-03-26 04:27:32 PM
"We've prepared seven separate areas for snow storage high up in the mountains," and organizers are using a "special thermo seal" to keep it cold, Bachin notes. Some 140,000 cubic meters are likely to "melt away," he adds, but that leaves more than 300,000 cubic meters. The added storage cost: some $11 million.

Given that they are already predicting 1/3 of the snow will melt, the rest sitting that long all summer, under melting snow, all will just compact into ice.
 
2013-03-26 04:50:34 PM
Why not just use 28,000 cubic feet of Wintrex, which is a new white foam rubber which actually on screen looks more like snow than snow, like they did in Scott of the Sahara?
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/vanilla hoare played mrs jesus christ in a geological syncline
 
2013-03-26 04:55:34 PM

monoski: Anderson's Pooper: I remember the year Buffalo had to truck in snow from Toronto for Winterfest (or was it the other way around)so I'll give these guys points for thinking ahead.

BC had to do the same thing for its winter games


Sad that this had to be pointed out.
/Today I learned that it's expecting too much to think most Farkers would remember all the way back to 2012
 
2013-03-26 05:02:24 PM
Vladimir Putin will imprison and/or execute anyone who fails to ensure there is enough snow in Sochi.  Personally.
 
2013-03-26 05:22:29 PM

SlothB77: "We've prepared seven separate areas for snow storage high up in the mountains," and organizers are using a "special thermo seal" to keep it cold, Bachin notes. Some 140,000 cubic meters are likely to "melt away," he adds, but that leaves more than 300,000 cubic meters. The added storage cost: some $11 million.

Given that they are already predicting 1/3 of the snow will melt, the rest sitting that long all summer, under melting snow, all will just compact into ice.


So? Half pipes are hard ice. The FIS injects water in the men's ski courses so that the skiers can ski faster without the course disintegrating. Ice skating, ice. Bob sledding, ice. Curling, ice. Hockey, ice. Luge, ice.

About the only two Winter Olympic sports you need soft snow for is cross country skiing and snow bunny farking.
 
2013-03-26 05:29:34 PM
What's with the IOC giving winter Olympics to cities that barely have less than a whole week below freezing per year...
 
2013-03-26 05:39:36 PM
It was a dumb choice, anyway. Its near the same latitude as Rome and Bacelona. Its a summer vacation destination. They have palm trees for farks sake.\

Dumb Soviets.
 
2013-03-26 05:41:51 PM

Mokmo: What's with the IOC giving winter Olympics to cities that barely have less than a whole week below freezing per year...


They usually have mountains nearby that have good downhill facilities and snow conditions (i.e. colder temperatures). Gives the best of both worlds: cities with comfortable temperatures with good ski venues nearby.
 
2013-03-26 05:54:14 PM
Better than storing it in Cyprus!
 
2013-03-26 05:56:37 PM

fireclown: Alonjar: You would think the olympics of all people could afford snow makers that produce realistic snow.  I assume the argument is that artificial snow is crappy vs the real thing.

I'm not sure that snow that has been horded for months would be much better, but yeah. Also, you can only make snow if the temperature is cold enough.

[www.snowmakers.com image 590x393]
Bonus:  What snow guns might look like.


Or you can go small scale:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyTq1B4x3fY
 
2013-03-26 06:41:48 PM
Padal proshlogodniy sneg...
/malavata! malavata budet!
 
2013-03-26 06:54:27 PM

vudukungfu: This was a very odd winter. Even locals don't remember when was the last time they had such warm days in the mountains

But don't you dare call it global warming.


Why would you? It was cold as a witches tit everywhere else in the extratropical Northern Hemisphere.
 
2013-03-26 07:56:21 PM
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That's the way I do it! They stole my idea.
 
2013-03-26 08:02:12 PM

Farking Canuck: Carousel Beast: Dude, seriously. The Earth's climate was completely static until humanity changed it.

Completely. Static.

Is there anyone on either side of the argument that has ever seriously suggested this?

If you have to rely on dishonest arguments shouldn't you re-evaluate your position??


 
upload.wikimedia.org


Don't make me come up there, you two!

 And tell my brother he's a dork.
 
2013-03-26 08:06:39 PM
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