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(AZ Family)   After a high school student's leg is severely burned at a frat party when somebody tossed a vodka bottle into the bonfire, frat members do the classy thing and tell her to wait for help down the street so they don't get in trouble   (azfamily.com) divider line 135
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2013-03-26 05:38:45 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: That girl wanted to be at a party with drunk, stupid, college kids. They made it possible for her to get what she wanted. Hardly seems sporting to turn around and try to get them in trouble for it.


We get it.  She was begging for it and boys will be boys.

I just pray you never get called to juror a rape trial.
 
2013-03-26 05:41:18 PM  
This wouldn't have happened if the victim had a gun!!!
 
2013-03-26 05:46:38 PM  
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Unavailable for comment as his friends dropped him off at the emergency shed after stomping him out, performing drunk triage, and getting the story straight that he was a homeless boy who just happened to wander near the party.
 
2013-03-26 05:53:09 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.


Cool story?  More like awesome story.
 
2013-03-26 06:03:01 PM  
Douchebags gonna douche.

Be they fratboys, sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads - decent folks will be decent, douchebags will douche.
 
2013-03-26 06:11:25 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


Whoa! Not since the Bush years.
 
2013-03-26 06:36:01 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.


We are not condemning a frat based on the actions of one idiot throwing a bottle, we are condemning them for collectively refusing to administer first aid and throwing the girl out of the party to cover their own butts.

That is the frat as a whole, and that is exactly the thinking you see in frats. That's worthy of condemnation.
 
2013-03-26 06:45:34 PM  
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2013-03-26 06:51:28 PM  

FinFangFark: Satanic_Hamster: CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.

Cool story?  More like awesome story.


Awesome part:
After he called the police, he dragged the body out onto the porch.  Police were REALLY pissed that he moved the body, but "the mother farker was bleeding all over my rug."
 
2013-03-26 06:57:21 PM  
now i'm not saying wanting to live in a house with 30 other dudes makes you gay, but it sure doesn't help you look straight.
 
2013-03-26 07:02:09 PM  

KwameKilstrawberry: Fark_Guy_Rob: That girl wanted to be at a party with drunk, stupid, college kids. They made it possible for her to get what she wanted. Hardly seems sporting to turn around and try to get them in trouble for it.

We get it.  She was begging for it and boys will be boys.

I just pray you never get called to juror a rape trial.


Yep, that is a fair comparison and in no way is it over the top hyperbole.  Holy overreaction batman.

Underage drinking is the exact same thing as rape.

CliChe Guevara: We are not condemning a frat based on the actions of one idiot throwing a bottle, we are condemning them for collectively refusing to administer first aid and throwing the girl out of the party to cover their own butts.

Completely overreacting to a college party that a high school girl went to.

These people are college students being college students, they are not Nazis trying to start the next holocaust nor are they serial child sex molesters.  Stop acting like they are the worst criminals ever.
 
2013-03-26 07:03:29 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


I would call a fratboy a coont. Or a frattie if he was fat. Or a BIG FAT coont if I was Begbie.
 
2013-03-26 07:06:11 PM  

sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


My house used to use the same question to stop the use of Frat, noting the negative feelings associated with the word.  Technically, "Frat" is an appropriate abbreviation of the word Fraternity, while shortening the word Country would just make it "Count".  I would simply tell the men to respect the word Fraternity.
/Twenty years later, I still have pride in my house.
//TKE Mu-Xi
 
2013-03-26 07:42:00 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: FinFangFark: Satanic_Hamster: CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.

Cool story?  More like awesome story.

Awesome part:
After he called the police, he dragged the body out onto the porch.  Police were REALLY pissed that he moved the body, but "the mother farker was bleeding all over my rug."


That is awesome. Takes some big brass ones to fark with the cops in that situation.
 
2013-03-26 07:47:42 PM  
Here's a novel concept: revoke the chapter whatever of the frat and ban it from ASU. That should solve the problem.
 
2013-03-26 07:48:42 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


That makes no sense, unless you have no idea how to spell country. It would be count.
 
2013-03-26 08:10:33 PM  
this wouldn't have happened if she were armed
 
2013-03-26 08:32:34 PM  
sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

HairyTwatter: My house used to use the same question to stop the use of Frat, noting the negative feelings associated with the word.  Technically, "Frat" is an appropriate abbreviation of the word Fraternity, while shortening the word Country would just make it "Count".  I would simply tell the men to respect the word Fraternity.
/Twenty years later, I still have pride in my house.
//TKE Mu-Xi


Fra-tur-nih-tee is four syllables.

Kun-tree is two syllables.

If one is able to use one syllable ("frat") to convey the identical concept which would previously require four syllables ("fraternity"), they are likely to do it. Shortening "country" to "c-nt" causes ambiguity, not increased information density.

Also, frats and sororities ("sors" sounds like sores, again resulting in ambiguity) do it themselves:
Tau Kappa Epsilon = Teek
Pi Kappa Alpha = Pike
Delta Delta Delta = tri-delta

Shortening a term with no loss of information is an optimization.
 
2013-03-26 08:59:34 PM  

JungleBoogie: sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

HairyTwatter: My house used to use the same question to stop the use of Frat, noting the negative feelings associated with the word.  Technically, "Frat" is an appropriate abbreviation of the word Fraternity, while shortening the word Country would just make it "Count".  I would simply tell the men to respect the word Fraternity.
/Twenty years later, I still have pride in my house.
//TKE Mu-Xi

Fra-tur-nih-tee is four syllables.

Kun-tree is two syllables.

If one is able to use one syllable ("frat") to convey the identical concept which would previously require four syllables ("fraternity"), they are likely to do it. Shortening "country" to "c-nt" causes ambiguity, not increased information density.

Also, frats and sororities ("sors" sounds like sores, again resulting in ambiguity) do it themselves:
Tau Kappa Epsilon = Teek
Pi Kappa Alpha = Pike
Delta Delta Delta = tri-delta

Shortening a term with no loss of information is an optimization.


"Richard, you didn't tell me you were a DIK" - Van Wilder
 
2013-03-26 09:15:04 PM  

Pangea: Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.


Well, they are the only people in this story who kicked out a high school girl that got injured at their party.

At least they didn't drug and rape her.


Kind of surprising really.
 
2013-03-26 09:17:04 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


"Frat rats" named themselves that. People who aren't in frats don't care about the frats and hence don't talk about the frats unless it comes up while talking to frat brothers who called themselves thus. They also coined sorostitute. The people not in those systems don't care and thus it doesn't come up.
 
2013-03-26 09:22:37 PM  
I'd kick an underage drinker out of my party, too.  Why don't you go find the person who threw the vodka into the fire?
 
2013-03-26 09:32:22 PM  

umad: That is awesome. Takes some big brass ones to fark with the cops in that situation.


He started dragging the body before the cops got there.  Pretty sure the police would have stopped him if he done it while they were there.  :0
 
2013-03-26 11:10:34 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.


Are the people in the fraternity over 18? If so they're not teenagers they're adults.
 
2013-03-26 11:12:49 PM  
I remember the first time I drank.
 
2013-03-27 12:00:43 AM  

A Terrible Human: Warlordtrooper: Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.

Are the people in the fraternity over 18? If so they're not teenagers they're adults.




Here's a concept to wrap your mind around: people who are the age of nineteen are both legal adults, and teenagers!
 
2013-03-27 12:12:10 AM  

Repo Man: A Terrible Human: Warlordtrooper: Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.

Are the people in the fraternity over 18? If so they're not teenagers they're adults.

Here's a concept to wrap your mind around: people who are the age of nineteen are both legal adults, and teenagers!


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2013-03-27 12:16:53 AM  
The newspaper in Isla Vista used to have the greatest police reports. I remember one from 1987 that I wish I still had. One of the reports was of police responding to a complaint about a party. On arrival, they saw two men carrying a girl (one had the arms, the other had the legs) outside of an apartment. On seeing the police, they dropped the girl on the grass, and ran inside an apartment. It turned out she was 17, and had gotten too drunk and passed out. The mental image I had of these guys dropping the girl and running was hilarious. IIRC, her parents were called, and she was no worse for wear. The guys got in trouble for serving a minor.

In the same section, they had an indecent exposure report where a woman was walking down the street, and saw a man in an apartment with a street view kneeling on his bed "Abusing himself with one hand, and beckoning her over with the other." I wonder if that approach ever worked for him?
 
2013-03-27 09:17:04 AM  
Hmm, if she was there visiting the campus on a recruiting trip I take it she won't be attending. Maybe she will though, she sounds like a dumb biatch.
 
2013-03-27 02:40:40 PM  
 I don't get why everyone is freaked out that she was a high school student at a frat party - she was on a recruiting trip checking out campus and sororities, and this is what they arrange to welcome the new kids.

 If people are so freaked out a minor was drinking at a college party, then maybe you should be asking why they annually invite high school kids to come, and then the greek systems arrange these parties specifically for them, usually trying to one-up each other on insanity of parties to stand out from the rest of the places they could pledge.

 Its not like she snuck in, these parties are normally aimed right at these kids. She was right where she was supposed to be. the university system and the greek orgs survival depends on that kind of recruiting
 
2013-03-27 08:34:18 PM  
were the under-aged drinkers arrested??
 
2013-03-27 08:57:59 PM  

CliChe Guevara: I don't get why everyone is freaked out that she was a high school student at a frat party - she was on a recruiting trip checking out campus and sororities, and this is what they arrange to welcome the new kids.

 If people are so freaked out a minor was drinking at a college party, then maybe you should be asking why they annually invite high school kids to come, and then the greek systems arrange these parties specifically for them, usually trying to one-up each other on insanity of parties to stand out from the rest of the places they could pledge.

 Its not like she snuck in, these parties are normally aimed right at these kids. She was right where she was supposed to be. the university system and the greek orgs survival depends on that kind of recruiting


the whole kids drinking thing cracks me up.
EVERYONE I know drank in high school.
 
2013-03-27 09:14:25 PM  

namatad: CliChe Guevara: I don't get why everyone is freaked out that she was a high school student at a frat party - she was on a recruiting trip checking out campus and sororities, and this is what they arrange to welcome the new kids.

 If people are so freaked out a minor was drinking at a college party, then maybe you should be asking why they annually invite high school kids to come, and then the greek systems arrange these parties specifically for them, usually trying to one-up each other on insanity of parties to stand out from the rest of the places they could pledge.

 Its not like she snuck in, these parties are normally aimed right at these kids. She was right where she was supposed to be. the university system and the greek orgs survival depends on that kind of recruiting

the whole kids drinking thing cracks me up.
EVERYONE I know drank in high school.




Yep. And lots of girls in my high school were dating guys in their twenties, and undoubtedly having sex with them as well. But that was in the early 80's, when the boomers were young, and if they had kids at all, those kids were in preschool or kindergarten at best. All of this freaking out has had a strong correlation to that generation's kids coming of age.
 
2013-03-27 09:23:21 PM  

Repo Man: Yep. And lots of girls in my high school were dating guys in their twenties, and undoubtedly having sex with them as well. But that was in the early 80's, when the boomers were young, and if they had kids at all, those kids were in preschool or kindergarten at best. All of this freaking out has had a strong correlation to that generation's kids coming of age.


funny how that repeats EVERY SINGLE generation
 
2013-03-27 10:18:41 PM  

namatad: were the under-aged drinkers arrested??


 of course not. the university needs the students (actually, their parents cash), so they depend on these recruiting drives to a staggering degree.
 the university can't -directly- buy the booze for them, but they can run interference with the cops so the greeks can, without worries of legal hassle. until someone gets hurt, then they are all 'we don't condone this kind of thing'.

 its all about the plausible deniability while still staying competitive with recruiting, and no one is naive enough to think the important part of recruiting of high school students over those weekend visits are the brochures and daytime powerpoint lectures. thats why afterward they feed those kids to the frats raw.
 
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