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(AZ Family)   After a high school student's leg is severely burned at a frat party when somebody tossed a vodka bottle into the bonfire, frat members do the classy thing and tell her to wait for help down the street so they don't get in trouble   (azfamily.com) divider line 135
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2013-03-26 01:49:38 PM
Bet they copped a feel while putting out the flames.
 
2013-03-26 02:02:35 PM
Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?
 
2013-03-26 02:15:05 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


It depends on the topic of discussion, but yeah, I would.
 
2013-03-26 02:16:12 PM

sigdiamond2000: stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


Depends on the day.  It's certainly got its moments.
 
2013-03-26 02:16:23 PM
Frat boys lack the requisite warmth and depth of kunts.
 
2013-03-26 02:16:45 PM
fc01.deviantart.net
 
2013-03-26 02:16:50 PM

Nurglitch: Frat boys lack the requisite warmth and depth of kunts.


This is why they invite that to their parties
 
2013-03-26 02:17:39 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


Yes, especially when dealing with pedantic semantic assholes.

What coont are you from, sig?
 
2013-03-26 02:18:57 PM
Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.
 
2013-03-26 02:20:54 PM
A buddy of mine has some pretty ugly scars on his hand, arm and leg from someone throwing a bottle in a campfire.
I guess hot glass sticking to your skin after a bottle explodes leaves a mark!

Not frat boys, just hicks. Same brain, different costume.
 
2013-03-26 02:22:12 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodak than all of you basement dwellers combined.


FTFY, frat boy.
 
2013-03-26 02:24:26 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.


...said no one so far in this thread except you?
 
2013-03-26 02:24:44 PM
came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed
 
2013-03-26 02:28:20 PM

whither_apophis: Bet they copped a feel while putting out the flames.


I'm not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.
 
2013-03-26 02:29:05 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.



Well, they are the only people in this story who kicked out a high school girl that got injured at their party.

At least they didn't drug and rape her.
 
2013-03-26 02:29:16 PM
Why was a high school student at a frat party?

/dnrtfa
//SAE '08
 
2013-03-26 02:29:45 PM
This and all the other crap is why we need to out law frats. They are useless and just cause trouble.
 
2013-03-26 02:31:02 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


Shows what they know. Bottom shelf vodak explodes just as well as top shelf vodak.* Why waste money?

/*I'm sure of it.
 
2013-03-26 02:31:18 PM

Pangea: Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.


Well, they are the only people in this story who kicked out a high school girl that got injured at their party.

At least they didn't drug and rape her.


They're practically heroes for not raping her krispy korpse.
 
2013-03-26 02:31:55 PM
She sounds hot.
 
2013-03-26 02:32:07 PM

fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed


So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?
 
2013-03-26 02:34:31 PM

USCLaw2010: I'm not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.


I see you, Caddyshackmitter.
 
2013-03-26 02:35:00 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.


I object to stigmatizing boys, and party-goers, and bonfire starters, and drinkers of alcoholic beverages.  It was only necessary to report that someone got burned.
 
2013-03-26 02:35:56 PM

FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?


I count two.
 
2013-03-26 02:37:37 PM

FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?


Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through a Fark thread.  No, wait, that's actually the perfect way.
 
2013-03-26 02:38:50 PM

Pangea: At least they didn't drug and rape her.


Now, let's not make hasty conclusions.
 
2013-03-26 02:40:19 PM

Glenford: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through a Fark thread.  No, wait, that's actually the perfect way.


grinding_journalist: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

I count two.


I've contacted your local draft boards and told them that you were all eligible for military service
 
2013-03-26 02:40:31 PM
"I'm in college! I get to be a dick now!"
 
2013-03-26 02:40:45 PM
Frat boys acting with all the dignity of flat worms? That can't be.
 
2013-03-26 02:41:23 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


no, i would call it a "count". learn how to spell moran
 
2013-03-26 02:42:17 PM

Keeve: She sounds hot.


well played
 
2013-03-26 02:44:02 PM
Well they could have cut it off and eaten it...
 
2013-03-26 02:47:55 PM

Nurglitch: Pangea: Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.


Well, they are the only people in this story who kicked out a high school girl that got injured at their party.

At least they didn't drug and rape her.

They're practically heroes for not raping her krispy korpse.


No. They're still douchesockets who mail their laundry home to mom.
 
2013-03-26 02:47:56 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Glenford: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through a Fark thread.  No, wait, that's actually the perfect way.

grinding_journalist: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

I count two.

I've contacted your local draft boards and told them that you were all eligible for military service


7 years of college, down the drain!
 
2013-03-26 02:51:47 PM
WienerButt


Why was a high school student at a frat party?

/dnrtfa
//SAE '08


For the rape.
 
2013-03-26 02:54:16 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.


Well, they -are- the only college organization created just for that specific purpose. Most everyone else goes to academic institutions to, you know, learn stuff with books and things.
What 'Greek' organizations are still doing being allowed to exist in a learning environment are beyond me.

 Other than subsidizing enginering students (by paying those of us with high SAT scores to pledge and then promise to never show up, in order to keep their minimum average scores up so they don't get booted), I see no good they do at all.
 It certainly does not offset the vandalism, added security expense, and environment of fear and sexual harassment they add to the college environment, nor the personal cost to all the rape victims and victims of assaults.
 
2013-03-26 02:55:45 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: WienerButt


Why was a high school student at a frat party?

/dnrtfa
//SAE '08

For the rape.


Considering the SAE house here (known as 'Rape House') finally got booted after years of having incidents covered up until they finally couldn't anymore. Yeah. pretty much.
 
2013-03-26 02:59:05 PM
Few people I find more laughably pathetic than frat boy white knghers.
 
2013-03-26 03:00:37 PM

Glenford: FirstNationalBastard: Glenford: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through a Fark thread.  No, wait, that's actually the perfect way.

grinding_journalist: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

I count two.

I've contacted your local draft boards and told them that you were all eligible for military service

7 years of college, down the drain!


Forget it. He's on a roll...
 
2013-03-26 03:00:58 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.


No, but they are the only people who need to buy their friends.
 
2013-03-26 03:02:44 PM
There are a couple of very bitter (and possibly very rapey) frat boys in this thread.
 
2013-03-26 03:07:33 PM

CliChe Guevara: Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.

Well, they -are- the only college organization created just for that specific purpose. Most everyone else goes to academic institutions to, you know, learn stuff with books and things.
What 'Greek' organizations are still doing being allowed to exist in a learning environment are beyond me.

 Other than subsidizing enginering students (by paying those of us with high SAT scores to pledge and then promise to never show up, in order to keep their minimum average scores up so they don't get booted), I see no good they do at all.
 It certainly does not offset the vandalism, added security expense, and environment of fear and sexual harassment they add to the college environment, nor the personal cost to all the rape victims and victims of assaults.


And don't forget pledges that turn up dead from either alcohol poisoning or from hazing.
 
2013-03-26 03:09:01 PM
Probably the best thing that coulda happened to her at a frat party. Honestly.
 
2013-03-26 03:11:47 PM
I like to make fun of frat guys as much as anyone else but....let's be reasonable about it.

It was a party with a raging bonfire.  If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.  There is nothing to suggest that members of the frat tossed the bottle in the fire, or that they condone such activity.  In fact, if it was the frat's alcohol and someone tossed it into a fire, I'd bet a lot of people would be pissed off.

It's really sad that a girl got hurt - but I'll rage in the general direction of whomever threw the bottle.  And truthfully, it was probably some other drunk, underaged, freshman or would-be student checking out the campus who didn't have experience with alcohol, wasn't thinking at the time, and would never intentionally do such a thing.  So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.
 
2013-03-26 03:13:01 PM
I think this is the most ambivalent thread I have seen in a while.
 
2013-03-26 03:14:46 PM
ASU. It figures.
 
2013-03-26 03:15:21 PM

Keeve: She sounds hot.


Thank you. Now I feel bad for laughing at that.
 
2013-03-26 03:15:37 PM
And shiat like this is why I stayed out of the frats while I was a student there.

/Most Greek orgs at colleges are wastes anyway
 
2013-03-26 03:16:04 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I like to make fun of frat guys as much as anyone else but....let's be reasonable about it.

It was a party with a raging bonfire.  If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.  There is nothing to suggest that members of the frat tossed the bottle in the fire, or that they condone such activity.  In fact, if it was the frat's alcohol and someone tossed it into a fire, I'd bet a lot of people would be pissed off.

It's really sad that a girl got hurt - but I'll rage in the general direction of whomever threw the bottle.  And truthfully, it was probably some other drunk, underaged, freshman or would-be student checking out the campus who didn't have experience with alcohol, wasn't thinking at the time, and would never intentionally do such a thing.  So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.


Uhhhh... did you miss the part where they kicked her out and made her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol?
 
2013-03-26 03:18:30 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Glenford: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through a Fark thread.  No, wait, that's actually the perfect way.

grinding_journalist: FirstNationalBastard: fawlty: came for the animal house references, leaving disappointed

So, you're disappointed that this thread has, approximately, Zero. Point. Zero. Animal House references?

I count two.

I've contacted your local draft boards and told them that you were all eligible for military service


Well?  Out with it!
 
2013-03-26 03:19:42 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob: So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.


You're conveniently forgetting the fact that they kicked her injured ass out onto the street to wait for an ambulance so they wouldn't get in trouble.  I would indeed feel the same amount of disgust for any hosts who did that, fraternity or otherwise.

Even assholes could have at least dropped her off at the emergency room after coaching her about "you'll be totally cool if you don't tell them you were here."
 
2013-03-26 03:20:32 PM
And why is a high school girl at a frat party again?  Her parents were.....doing what exactly?
 
2013-03-26 03:21:15 PM

CliChe Guevara: Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.

Well, they -are- the only college organization created just for that specific purpose. Most everyone else goes to academic institutions to, you know, learn stuff with books and things.
What 'athletic' organizations are still doing being allowed to exist in a learning environment are beyond me.

 Other than subsidizing enginering students (by paying those of us with high SAT scores to try out and then promise to never show up, in order to keep their minimum average scores up so they don't get booted), I see no good they do at all.
 It certainly does not offset the vandalism, added security expense, and environment of fear and sexual harassment they add to the college environment, nor the personal cost to all the rape victims and victims of assaults.


i830.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-26 03:21:35 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


If it was full of dumb-ass frat farks...yeah.
 
2013-03-26 03:25:03 PM
The girl was standing beside a raging bonfire, according to police, when someone threw a bottle of vodka into the fire.

If it exploded, it was probably still unopened

i1237.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-26 03:27:38 PM
ASU really needs to work on their recruitment methods.
 
2013-03-26 03:31:54 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.


Wrong. I would hate on any group of dipshiats that does what the frat boys in TFA did.

Throwing a bottle of vodak into a bonfire is stupid.

Kicking a severely burned woman to the curb in the hopes of not getting into trouble is borderline evil.
 
2013-03-26 03:35:07 PM

SlagginOff: There are a couple of very bitter (and possibly very rapey) frat boys in this thread.


Who said anything about rape?  That isn't even an issue here,  In fact the article specifically mentioned that people helped put the flames out.  Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.
 
2013-03-26 03:35:15 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: And why is a high school girl at a frat party again?  Her parents were.....doing what exactly?


She was visiting on a recruiting trip. I'm guessing she wanted an advance taste of what a wild college frat party would be like.
 
2013-03-26 03:38:45 PM
Fraternities and Sororities - the way to get fake friends before MySpace and Facebook
 
2013-03-26 03:42:08 PM

mantabulous: Fark_Guy_Rob: I like to make fun of frat guys as much as anyone else but....let's be reasonable about it.

It was a party with a raging bonfire.  If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.  There is nothing to suggest that members of the frat tossed the bottle in the fire, or that they condone such activity.  In fact, if it was the frat's alcohol and someone tossed it into a fire, I'd bet a lot of people would be pissed off.

It's really sad that a girl got hurt - but I'll rage in the general direction of whomever threw the bottle.  And truthfully, it was probably some other drunk, underaged, freshman or would-be student checking out the campus who didn't have experience with alcohol, wasn't thinking at the time, and would never intentionally do such a thing.  So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

Uhhhh... did you miss the part where they kicked her out and made her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol?


No - I just didn't consider it particularly noteworthy.

Everyone involved was playing their part...some of it is their fault and some of it is 'our' fault as a society for making ridiculous laws and turning a blind eye, except when something bad happens.

The girl was underage and (almost certainly) consuming alcohol.  She shouldn't have been at the party.  But, realistically *80%* of HIGH SCHOOL students admit to drinking.  I don't know of ANYONE, personally, who waited until 21 to drink.  I was a huge nerd and most of my friends were, and I didn't start really drinking until Sophomore year of college - which was still well before 21.

It *is* part of the college experience.  And every university I've been to is aware of this.  A huge part of keeping students showing up (with their government loans) is giving them a 'fun' environment.  So yeah - you can't go into the bars - but you can get a cup at the frat parties and occasional large house-party.  But those are 'against the rules'.

Even the police were happy enough to let us stagger home drunk, so long as we were quiet and not in the street.

What do people *really* think happens at recruiting trips that span the weekend?  You get a tour of campus, some stupid flyers, and go party.

And 99.99% of the time, everything goes mostly okay.  People get drunk, have unprotected sex (or hookup with a fattie, or a member of the same sex, whatever...), smoke weed, maybe even try a harder drug.... and life goes on.  They call it the 'college experience' and it's good fun.

But this time, someone got hurt.  It wasn't directly the fault of the frat and it wasn't directly the fault of the girl....but they'll both get screwed over for it.  If the girl is an athlete or scholarship winner - she stands to have it taken away.  It's unlikely, but entirely possible, that she could lose admission to a university for her underaged drinking (even though, at least, 80% of high school kids admit to drinking before they graduate).

And the frat, who everyone on campus knows welcomes big parties with lots of alcohol without looking too closely at IDs is going to face fines, possibly lawsuits, or being thrown out of school for doing exactly what the university and local police expect them do - both of whom benefit from the role the frats play in the community....

Is it 'right' to ask the girl who is ALREADY injured to wait for an ambulance a bit down the road to try and avoid getting in trouble?  No, not really.  Is it understandable?  Absolutely.  If the laws and university code of honor crap wouldn't punish them, I'm sure they wouldn't have wanted her to leave.  But as an underage drinker she should be aware of the fact that SHE IS A LIABILITY.

When I was underaged and people gave me liquor, I would go out of my away to avoid them getting in trouble for that act.  That girl wanted to be at a party with drunk, stupid, college kids.  They made it possible for her to get what she wanted.  Hardly seems sporting to turn around and try to get them in trouble for it.
 
2013-03-26 03:45:34 PM
Wait...when was the butt-chugging going on? Before, during, or after the explosion?

frat, frat, frat, frat, frat, frat, frat
 
2013-03-26 03:47:00 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?
 
2013-03-26 03:47:23 PM

WienerButt: Why was a high school student at a frat party?

/dnrtfa
//SAE '08


why are any girls at a frat party?  So the guys can attempt to molest them.

There are two types of women at a frat party:  1 - the girls that are forced to go for social reasons (boyfriend, sorority sisters, etc).  They show up, have a crappy time and leave at the earliest possible hour.  You can try to get them wasted in an attempt to molest them, but it ain't gonna happen.

2.  the frat sl-ts.  these are the chicks that can down a 12 oz bud in under 4 seconds.  they can drink many underclassmen under the table and are the ones that will have sex with you (should you desire it) as long as you are the last guy standing.  They typically don't pass out until after sunrise....so, you had better pace yourself.

some of these chicks are the ones that get molested, trains pulled on them (voluntary or not).  Seems to me that the later in the morning it is, the less likely ms vodak realized that things only get worse after dark

/wishing her a speedy recovery

//frat boys will likely lose their charter
 
2013-03-26 03:48:36 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?


Nevermind.  I can see you're all wrapped up in the excuses and white knighting.

Have fun.
 
2013-03-26 03:50:56 PM
But what's really terrible is apparently they failed to capture the incident on their cell phones. How inconsiderate.
 
2013-03-26 03:51:20 PM
Or they could have called the responders, kept her calm and in the house.  Then tackled the idiot to the ground and had everyone confirm that he was the one who threw the bottle into the fire and that they did not condone alcohol near fire.

They'd have a 50 percent chance of her agreeing to help with that since the guy would still be brought up on charges.
 
2013-03-26 03:52:14 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?


Without knowing more details, I can only speculate.

Did she *walk* away from the party, under her own power?  Then yes, it's cool.
Did someone carry her/help her walk, with her permission?  Then yes, it's cool.

The girl and the frat were *partners* in crime.  They were all breaking the law and the Universities code of ethics.

As an underaged high school kid, I'd rather go into a party where I can get drunk and rejected by women; and know that I'm 'not really supposed to be there' and assume liability for myself; than be home with no alcohol until I'm 21.  So yeah, it seems reasonable to me.
 
2013-03-26 03:53:09 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I like to make fun of frat guys as much as anyone else but....let's be reasonable about it.

It was a party with a raging bonfire.  If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.  There is nothing to suggest that members of the frat tossed the bottle in the fire, or that they condone such activity.  In fact, if it was the frat's alcohol and someone tossed it into a fire, I'd bet a lot of people would be pissed off.

It's really sad that a girl got hurt - but I'll rage in the general direction of whomever threw the bottle.  And truthfully, it was probably some other drunk, underaged, freshman or would-be student checking out the campus who didn't have experience with alcohol, wasn't thinking at the time, and would never intentionally do such a thing.  So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.


Your well reasoned articulate comment is not welcome in this frat bashing thread!

If you wish to comment in a frat thread (let's face it they are "bashing" threads) in the future you MUST advance one or more of these negative stereotypes:

1. equate membership with buying friends
2. claim all members are gay
3. claim all members rape women (even though they are all gay)
4. claim all members participate in hazing
5. claim that all members suffer alcohol poisoning
6. claim all members commit sexual harassment
7. claim all members are douches
8. claim that the only reason they exist is to party and get drunk

You will get extra points if you add one of the following:

1. Make a demand that all fraternities be banned, or outlawed
2. Question how fraternities can exist "in this day and age"

You will get "super" bonus points if you add one of the following statements:

1. That is why I never rushed a fraternity or associated with any fraternity member
2. That is why I went to a school that didn't have fraternities
 
2013-03-26 03:53:44 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: mantabulous: Fark_Guy_Rob: I like to make fun of frat guys as much as anyone else but....let's be reasonable about it.

It was a party with a raging bonfire.  If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.  There is nothing to suggest that members of the frat tossed the bottle in the fire, or that they condone such activity.  In fact, if it was the frat's alcohol and someone tossed it into a fire, I'd bet a lot of people would be pissed off.

It's really sad that a girl got hurt - but I'll rage in the general direction of whomever threw the bottle.  And truthfully, it was probably some other drunk, underaged, freshman or would-be student checking out the campus who didn't have experience with alcohol, wasn't thinking at the time, and would never intentionally do such a thing.  So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

Uhhhh... did you miss the part where they kicked her out and made her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol?

No - I just didn't consider it particularly noteworthy


I always appreciate it when somebody with a tl;dr post lets me know in the very first sentence that I needn't waste my time.

Thank you, sir. That was very considerate of you.
 
2013-03-26 03:56:40 PM

gunga galunga: Fark_Guy_Rob: mantabulous: Fark_Guy_Rob: I like to make fun of frat guys as much as anyone else but....let's be reasonable about it.

It was a party with a raging bonfire.  If anyone other than a frat was holding it, nobody would be hating on the hosts.  There is nothing to suggest that members of the frat tossed the bottle in the fire, or that they condone such activity.  In fact, if it was the frat's alcohol and someone tossed it into a fire, I'd bet a lot of people would be pissed off.

It's really sad that a girl got hurt - but I'll rage in the general direction of whomever threw the bottle.  And truthfully, it was probably some other drunk, underaged, freshman or would-be student checking out the campus who didn't have experience with alcohol, wasn't thinking at the time, and would never intentionally do such a thing.  So, while I'm not supporting his or her actions - I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

Uhhhh... did you miss the part where they kicked her out and made her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol?

No - I just didn't consider it particularly noteworthy

I always appreciate it when somebody with a tl;dr post lets me know in the very first sentence that I needn't waste my time.

Thank you, sir. That was very considerate of you.


If you think anything that happens in a Fark comments thread *isn't* a waste of time, I've got bad news for you....
 
2013-03-26 03:57:13 PM
Bros before hos.

I mean thems is the rules.
 
2013-03-26 04:01:23 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?

Without knowing more details, I can only speculate.

Did she *walk* away from the party, under her own power?  Then yes, it's cool.
Did someone carry her/help her walk, with her permission?  Then yes, it's cool.

The girl and the frat were *partners* in crime.  They were all breaking the law and the Universities code of ethics.

As an underaged high school kid, I'd rather go into a party where I can get drunk and rejected by women; and know that I'm 'not really supposed to be there' and assume liability for myself; than be home with no alcohol until I'm 21.  So yeah, it seems reasonable to me.


FTFA:    But after that, police said fraternity members kicked the girl out of the party and told her to wait for emergency responders down the street in order to keep them from getting in trouble.

That is really all I need to know.
But by all means, continue to defend them.  "Partners in crime" my fat lily white ass.  Jerks, plain and simple.
 
2013-03-26 04:01:59 PM

sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


that was funny when i heard that in college 20 years ago. now it just sounds kind of defensive and sad.
 
2013-03-26 04:04:41 PM

Warlordtrooper: SlagginOff: There are a couple of very bitter (and possibly very rapey) frat boys in this thread.

Who said anything about rape?  That isn't even an issue here,  In fact the article specifically mentioned that people helped put the flames out.  Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.


I was making a joke about frat boys and their inclination towards date rape, due to the preemptive butthurt shown by current or former frat members posting in this thread.
 
2013-03-26 04:09:17 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?

Without knowing more details, I can only speculate.

Did she *walk* away from the party, under her own power?  Then yes, it's cool.
Did someone carry her/help her walk, with her permission?  Then yes, it's cool.

The girl and the frat were *partners* in crime.  They were all breaking the law and the Universities code of ethics.

As an underaged high school kid, I'd rather go into a party where I can get drunk and rejected by women; and know that I'm 'not really supposed to be there' and assume liability for myself; than be home with no alcohol until I'm 21.  So yeah, it seems reasonable to me.

FTFA:    But after that, police said fraternity members kicked the girl out of the party and told her to wait for emergency responders down the street in order to keep them from getting in trouble.

That is really all I need to know.
But by all means, continue to defend them.  "Partners in crime" my fat lily white ass.  Jerks, plain and simple.


Underage drinking is a crime.  She was committing a crime.

but ignoring that - I think it's interesting how Fark, as a whole, will sometimes reject the first-hand account of a police officer being quoted by a newspaper as 'unreliable' in some threads.  But in other cases, it's absolute fact.

'Well, the article says the cop said that this happened.  So.....it must be true'.

To me, this seems to suggest Farkers dislike frat boys more than they dislike cops.
 
2013-03-26 04:10:13 PM
The only people left on the planet who don't know that frat-boys are weasels happen to be teenage girls.  Ironic, ain't it?
 
2013-03-26 04:11:02 PM

FlashHarry: sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

that was funny when i heard that in college 20 years ago. now it just sounds kind of defensive and sad.


Your mileage obviously varies. But for me, even 20 years later, seeing a frat boy getting pissy and defensive over being called a frat boy still brings a smile to my face.
 
2013-03-26 04:14:36 PM
The college I went to holds a vote every year about having a Greek system and every year they vote it down. I really like the concept of a Fraternity. I like the ritual and the networking and the all you can eat buffet of Early Education and Psychology majors from the sororities, but goddamn if 90% of the frat boys I ever met didn't fall into the stereotype. I just don't think I could spend that much time with the "popped collar" crowd.

If there was a real deal adult fraternity like the Freemasons that wasn't nothing but old men, I'd join in a minute.
 
2013-03-26 04:16:35 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob:

To me, this seems to suggest Farkers dislike frat boys more than they dislike cops.

I don't give a flying rat's ass if they are frat boys, homeless guys under the bridge, football players or your own brothers.  They are witless POS who had a fairly severely burned person wait somewhere else for help because they were afraid of their asses being in the sling.  That's wrong on a 'how human beings treat each other" level.   They. Are. Gigantic. Pricks.

I will take a police report over drunken frat boys word any day though, that much I'll go for.
 
2013-03-26 04:17:29 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?

Without knowing more details, I can only speculate.

Did she *walk* away from the party, under her own power?  Then yes, it's cool.
Did someone carry her/help her walk, with her permission?  Then yes, it's cool.

The girl and the frat were *partners* in crime.  They were all breaking the law and the Universities code of ethics.

As an underaged high school kid, I'd rather go into a party where I can get drunk and rejected by women; and know that I'm 'not really supposed to be there' and assume liability for myself; than be home with no alcohol until I'm 21.  So yeah, it seems reasonable to me.


No where in TFA says the girl was drinking. I have you farkied as an apologist for various bullshiat, so I'm really not shocked here at all that you are defending these tards.
Birds of a feather and all that.
 
2013-03-26 04:20:15 PM
I'll be patiently awaiting the SVU rip-off of this story.
 
2013-03-26 04:22:20 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.

The. ONLY. People.


Simmer down, frat boy.  No one's saying that fraternities have a monopoly on stupidity, just an abundant surplus.
 
2013-03-26 04:22:28 PM
ElMNoPee:

// ----- misogynist crap -------- //
some of these [EXPL DEL] are the ones that get molested, trains pulled on them (voluntary or not).  Seems to me that the later in the morning it is, the less likely ms vodak realized that things only get worse after dark

/wishing her a speedy recovery



In Arizona, a person who is inebriated cannot consent to sex.
 
2013-03-26 04:23:01 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:

To me, this seems to suggest Farkers dislike frat boys more than they dislike cops.

I don't give a flying rat's ass if they are frat boys, homeless guys under the bridge, football players or your own brothers.  They are witless POS who had a fairly severely burned person wait somewhere else for help because they were afraid of their asses being in the sling.  That's wrong on a 'how human beings treat each other" level.   They. Are. Gigantic. Pricks.

I will take a police report over drunken frat boys word any day though, that much I'll go for.


In this case - it's only the word of the police.

Other articles say she was 'escorted' down the street.  Anyway, it's a common enough problem that there are laws designed to protect people in these situations (http://aapcc.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/underage-drinking-alcohol-pois on ing-and-legal-immunity/ ) - but that won't spare anyone from consequences imposed by the University.  Of course, most of those other cases didn't involve frats and did involve death.  So, by comparison walking a girl down the street seems like a small thing.
 
2013-03-26 04:23:10 PM

gunga galunga: FlashHarry: sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

that was funny when i heard that in college 20 years ago. now it just sounds kind of defensive and sad.

Your mileage obviously varies. But for me, even 20 years later, seeing a frat boy getting pissy and defensive over being called a frat boy still brings a smile to my face.


I agree with this. Especially when they are bagging groceries.
 
2013-03-26 04:25:04 PM

FlashHarry: sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

that was funny when i heard that in college 20 years ago. now it just sounds kind of defensive and sad.


You could call frat rats who defend this kind of behavior that, but I never use that word.

/Have to admit, I did think it when I read his comment.
 
2013-03-26 04:32:27 PM

Maud Dib: Fark_Guy_Rob: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?

Without knowing more details, I can only speculate.

Did she *walk* away from the party, under her own power?  Then yes, it's cool.
Did someone carry her/help her walk, with her permission?  Then yes, it's cool.

The girl and the frat were *partners* in crime.  They were all breaking the law and the Universities code of ethics.

As an underaged high school kid, I'd rather go into a party where I can get drunk and rejected by women; and know that I'm 'not really supposed to be there' and assume liability for myself; than be home with no alcohol until I'm 21.  So yeah, it seems reasonable to me.

No where in TFA says the girl was drinking. I have you farkied as an apologist for various bullshiat, so I'm really not shocked here at all that you are defending these tards.
Birds of a feather and all that.


Yeah - because lots of sober 17 year old girls hang out at huge frat parties where under-aged people are served alcohol....but regardless, assuming she wasn't, there's a slew of laws that would apply.  If the cops showed up and busted they party, they absolutely could (and probably would) give her a ticket for something.  My university flat out tells students 'It doesn't matter if you aren't drinking, you'll still be charged with underage consumption'.  They also have b.s. catchalls like 'CONTRIBUTING to X' - since she was at the party, and 'the party' allowed under-aged drinking, she was 'contributing'.

It sounds ridiculous (because it is).  But it happens all the time at campuses all over the country.
 
2013-03-26 04:41:34 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


No, because my country is respectable.
 
2013-03-26 04:51:23 PM

Begoggle: Fraternities and Sororities - the way to get fake friends before MySpace and Facebook


And of course, the "we matter now, but nobody cares and I'm lonely" campus atmosphere of the social gulag that is university was the impetus of Facebook.  It's a global refrigerator door in a binary coffee kiva with a stack digital post it notes ans Scotch tape next to it.  Oddly, somebody thought it would be worth billions to get in on the ad revenue from this.
 
2013-03-26 04:54:29 PM
Chris Titus knows this pain.
 
2013-03-26 04:57:09 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Fark_Guy_Rob:  I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.

But kicking her out and making her wait for paramedics on the side of the road so they wouldn't get in trouble for having an underage girl at a party with alcohol is perfectly cool right?  Right?


It may not be Cool but its also not the end of the World.

Why does every little slight against somebody require the world to overreact and bring out the torches and pitchforks now days.  Its like every single thing that happens somebody MUST be punished in the most harsh way possible.

Perhaps society should just chill out a bit.  I know this might be a shock to some people but not every crime that is committed is the worst crime since the holocaust.

An underage girl drank at a party,  Big freaking deal.  It happens all the time.  She wasn't sexually assaulted in anyway, she was the victim of an accident (yes as a result of somebodies stupidity).  I say we make the frat hold a fund raiser or something to pay for the girls medical bills and lets all move on from this.
 
2013-03-26 04:57:45 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


Let's look at the options.

1. - You're a troll and by definition, suck.

2. - You're a kneejerk fratrat apologist who needs to tell people about your superior vodka acquisition status and the that they live in basements, in which case you're pathetic.

3. - Both.
 
2013-03-26 04:59:03 PM

SlagginOff: Warlordtrooper: SlagginOff: There are a couple of very bitter (and possibly very rapey) frat boys in this thread.

Who said anything about rape?  That isn't even an issue here,  In fact the article specifically mentioned that people helped put the flames out.  Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.

I was making a joke about frat boys and their inclination towards date rape, due to the preemptive butthurt shown by current or former frat members posting in this thread.


OH, sorry I just find that people (especially on the internet) tend to overreact to everything and demand full and total retribution for even the slightest offense.  Its like nobody has a sense of scale or being reasonable anymore.
 
2013-03-26 05:09:37 PM

Warlordtrooper: Its like nobody has a sense of scale or being reasonable anymore.


At least they're yelling their anger at each other and not the billionaire idiots who need that zeigeist to keep flowing to stay in business.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-26 05:12:20 PM

Warlordtrooper: SlagginOff: Warlordtrooper: SlagginOff: There are a couple of very bitter (and possibly very rapey) frat boys in this thread.

Who said anything about rape?  That isn't even an issue here,  In fact the article specifically mentioned that people helped put the flames out.  Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.

I was making a joke about frat boys and their inclination towards date rape, due to the preemptive butthurt shown by current or former frat members posting in this thread.

OH, sorry I just find that people (especially on the internet) tend to overreact to everything and demand full and total retribution for even the slightest offense.  Its like nobody has a sense of scale or being reasonable anymore.


It's all good. I was just making a snarky comment about frat boys, since that takes even less effort than actually doing the job I get paid to do.
 
2013-03-26 05:12:50 PM

ElMNoPee:  You can try to get them wasted in an attempt to molest them, but it ain't gonna happen.


Not that this is related to the thread, but why are you advocating sexual assault and rape?

/"I was just joking" in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-03-26 05:14:12 PM

JeffreyScott: 2. claim all members are gay
3. claim all members rape women (even though they are all gay)


From your parenthetical, you think these would be contradictory, but you'd be wrong.
 
2013-03-26 05:17:15 PM
The simplest explanation here is that everybody involved acted foolishly. The idiot who threw the bottle, the girl who stood near a fire with a vodak bottle in it (Those take a while to cook off), and the fraternity for not managing the situation properly. While the fraternity's actions appear awful at the surface, the fact is a stupid incident like this can result in a revoked charter. This means the loss of alumni contributions, scholarships, housing, and more. Not to mention the loss to the charities and campus. As such, incidences like these, which would be relatively minor in any other instance, are such a huge deal to Greek organizations. This is the exact reason most fraternities have a risk management chair. He makes sure things like this are handled appropriately. Whether that means making a brother wait with the girl or having a sober brother drive her to the hospital, it gets taken care of in an appropriate matter. It appears this wasn't the case, and that's a shame.

We have nothing to go on but a police report from a distressed and (more likely than not) drunk high school girl, and secondhand accounts. No adequate amount of light will ever be shed on this, especially with the polarizing light that pervades every story involving Greek organization.
 
2013-03-26 05:38:42 PM
CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.
 
2013-03-26 05:38:45 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: That girl wanted to be at a party with drunk, stupid, college kids. They made it possible for her to get what she wanted. Hardly seems sporting to turn around and try to get them in trouble for it.


We get it.  She was begging for it and boys will be boys.

I just pray you never get called to juror a rape trial.
 
2013-03-26 05:41:18 PM
This wouldn't have happened if the victim had a gun!!!
 
2013-03-26 05:46:38 PM
i21.photobucket.com
Unavailable for comment as his friends dropped him off at the emergency shed after stomping him out, performing drunk triage, and getting the story straight that he was a homeless boy who just happened to wander near the party.
 
2013-03-26 05:53:09 PM

Satanic_Hamster: CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.


Cool story?  More like awesome story.
 
2013-03-26 06:03:01 PM
Douchebags gonna douche.

Be they fratboys, sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads - decent folks will be decent, douchebags will douche.
 
2013-03-26 06:11:25 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


Whoa! Not since the Bush years.
 
2013-03-26 06:36:01 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm not willing to condemn frat members everywhere for the actions of one person who may or may not even be in the frat.


We are not condemning a frat based on the actions of one idiot throwing a bottle, we are condemning them for collectively refusing to administer first aid and throwing the girl out of the party to cover their own butts.

That is the frat as a whole, and that is exactly the thinking you see in frats. That's worthy of condemnation.
 
2013-03-26 06:45:34 PM
thecreativecat.net
 
2013-03-26 06:51:28 PM

FinFangFark: Satanic_Hamster: CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.

Cool story?  More like awesome story.


Awesome part:
After he called the police, he dragged the body out onto the porch.  Police were REALLY pissed that he moved the body, but "the mother farker was bleeding all over my rug."
 
2013-03-26 06:57:21 PM
now i'm not saying wanting to live in a house with 30 other dudes makes you gay, but it sure doesn't help you look straight.
 
2013-03-26 07:02:09 PM

KwameKilstrawberry: Fark_Guy_Rob: That girl wanted to be at a party with drunk, stupid, college kids. They made it possible for her to get what she wanted. Hardly seems sporting to turn around and try to get them in trouble for it.

We get it.  She was begging for it and boys will be boys.

I just pray you never get called to juror a rape trial.


Yep, that is a fair comparison and in no way is it over the top hyperbole.  Holy overreaction batman.

Underage drinking is the exact same thing as rape.

CliChe Guevara: We are not condemning a frat based on the actions of one idiot throwing a bottle, we are condemning them for collectively refusing to administer first aid and throwing the girl out of the party to cover their own butts.

Completely overreacting to a college party that a high school girl went to.

These people are college students being college students, they are not Nazis trying to start the next holocaust nor are they serial child sex molesters.  Stop acting like they are the worst criminals ever.
 
2013-03-26 07:03:29 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


I would call a fratboy a coont. Or a frattie if he was fat. Or a BIG FAT coont if I was Begbie.
 
2013-03-26 07:06:11 PM

sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


My house used to use the same question to stop the use of Frat, noting the negative feelings associated with the word.  Technically, "Frat" is an appropriate abbreviation of the word Fraternity, while shortening the word Country would just make it "Count".  I would simply tell the men to respect the word Fraternity.
/Twenty years later, I still have pride in my house.
//TKE Mu-Xi
 
2013-03-26 07:42:00 PM

Satanic_Hamster: FinFangFark: Satanic_Hamster: CSB:
Back in college a buddy of mine got to shoot and kill a drunken frat boy.  The frat boy was coming home, drunk, and got the wrong apartment.  Kicked over the door when the key wouldn't work and started to hit my friend over the head with a wooden chair, yelling at him for being in "his" home.   Fight ended when he got to one of his pistols.

Cool story?  More like awesome story.

Awesome part:
After he called the police, he dragged the body out onto the porch.  Police were REALLY pissed that he moved the body, but "the mother farker was bleeding all over my rug."


That is awesome. Takes some big brass ones to fark with the cops in that situation.
 
2013-03-26 07:47:42 PM
Here's a novel concept: revoke the chapter whatever of the frat and ban it from ASU. That should solve the problem.
 
2013-03-26 07:48:42 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


That makes no sense, unless you have no idea how to spell country. It would be count.
 
2013-03-26 08:10:33 PM
this wouldn't have happened if she were armed
 
2013-03-26 08:32:34 PM
sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

HairyTwatter: My house used to use the same question to stop the use of Frat, noting the negative feelings associated with the word.  Technically, "Frat" is an appropriate abbreviation of the word Fraternity, while shortening the word Country would just make it "Count".  I would simply tell the men to respect the word Fraternity.
/Twenty years later, I still have pride in my house.
//TKE Mu-Xi


Fra-tur-nih-tee is four syllables.

Kun-tree is two syllables.

If one is able to use one syllable ("frat") to convey the identical concept which would previously require four syllables ("fraternity"), they are likely to do it. Shortening "country" to "c-nt" causes ambiguity, not increased information density.

Also, frats and sororities ("sors" sounds like sores, again resulting in ambiguity) do it themselves:
Tau Kappa Epsilon = Teek
Pi Kappa Alpha = Pike
Delta Delta Delta = tri-delta

Shortening a term with no loss of information is an optimization.
 
2013-03-26 08:59:34 PM

JungleBoogie: sigdiamond2000: And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?

HairyTwatter: My house used to use the same question to stop the use of Frat, noting the negative feelings associated with the word.  Technically, "Frat" is an appropriate abbreviation of the word Fraternity, while shortening the word Country would just make it "Count".  I would simply tell the men to respect the word Fraternity.
/Twenty years later, I still have pride in my house.
//TKE Mu-Xi

Fra-tur-nih-tee is four syllables.

Kun-tree is two syllables.

If one is able to use one syllable ("frat") to convey the identical concept which would previously require four syllables ("fraternity"), they are likely to do it. Shortening "country" to "c-nt" causes ambiguity, not increased information density.

Also, frats and sororities ("sors" sounds like sores, again resulting in ambiguity) do it themselves:
Tau Kappa Epsilon = Teek
Pi Kappa Alpha = Pike
Delta Delta Delta = tri-delta

Shortening a term with no loss of information is an optimization.


"Richard, you didn't tell me you were a DIK" - Van Wilder
 
2013-03-26 09:15:04 PM

Pangea: Why Would I Read the Article: Frat boy bashing thread!  Because fraternity members are the ONLY people in college who drink too much and act impetuously and foolishly at times.


Well, they are the only people in this story who kicked out a high school girl that got injured at their party.

At least they didn't drug and rape her.


Kind of surprising really.
 
2013-03-26 09:17:04 PM

sigdiamond2000: Fraternity brothers get more top-shelf vodka than all of you basement dwellers combined.

And stop calling it a "frat". Would you call your country a "c*nt"?


"Frat rats" named themselves that. People who aren't in frats don't care about the frats and hence don't talk about the frats unless it comes up while talking to frat brothers who called themselves thus. They also coined sorostitute. The people not in those systems don't care and thus it doesn't come up.
 
2013-03-26 09:22:37 PM
I'd kick an underage drinker out of my party, too.  Why don't you go find the person who threw the vodka into the fire?
 
2013-03-26 09:32:22 PM

umad: That is awesome. Takes some big brass ones to fark with the cops in that situation.


He started dragging the body before the cops got there.  Pretty sure the police would have stopped him if he done it while they were there.  :0
 
2013-03-26 11:10:34 PM

Warlordtrooper: Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.


Are the people in the fraternity over 18? If so they're not teenagers they're adults.
 
2013-03-26 11:12:49 PM
I remember the first time I drank.
 
2013-03-27 12:00:43 AM

A Terrible Human: Warlordtrooper: Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.

Are the people in the fraternity over 18? If so they're not teenagers they're adults.




Here's a concept to wrap your mind around: people who are the age of nineteen are both legal adults, and teenagers!
 
2013-03-27 12:12:10 AM

Repo Man: A Terrible Human: Warlordtrooper: Really out of all the things in the world to be outraged about, teenagers not wanting to get in trouble is pretty far down the list.

Are the people in the fraternity over 18? If so they're not teenagers they're adults.

Here's a concept to wrap your mind around: people who are the age of nineteen are both legal adults, and teenagers!


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2013-03-27 12:16:53 AM
The newspaper in Isla Vista used to have the greatest police reports. I remember one from 1987 that I wish I still had. One of the reports was of police responding to a complaint about a party. On arrival, they saw two men carrying a girl (one had the arms, the other had the legs) outside of an apartment. On seeing the police, they dropped the girl on the grass, and ran inside an apartment. It turned out she was 17, and had gotten too drunk and passed out. The mental image I had of these guys dropping the girl and running was hilarious. IIRC, her parents were called, and she was no worse for wear. The guys got in trouble for serving a minor.

In the same section, they had an indecent exposure report where a woman was walking down the street, and saw a man in an apartment with a street view kneeling on his bed "Abusing himself with one hand, and beckoning her over with the other." I wonder if that approach ever worked for him?
 
2013-03-27 09:17:04 AM
Hmm, if she was there visiting the campus on a recruiting trip I take it she won't be attending. Maybe she will though, she sounds like a dumb biatch.
 
2013-03-27 02:40:40 PM
 I don't get why everyone is freaked out that she was a high school student at a frat party - she was on a recruiting trip checking out campus and sororities, and this is what they arrange to welcome the new kids.

 If people are so freaked out a minor was drinking at a college party, then maybe you should be asking why they annually invite high school kids to come, and then the greek systems arrange these parties specifically for them, usually trying to one-up each other on insanity of parties to stand out from the rest of the places they could pledge.

 Its not like she snuck in, these parties are normally aimed right at these kids. She was right where she was supposed to be. the university system and the greek orgs survival depends on that kind of recruiting
 
2013-03-27 08:34:18 PM
were the under-aged drinkers arrested??
 
2013-03-27 08:57:59 PM

CliChe Guevara: I don't get why everyone is freaked out that she was a high school student at a frat party - she was on a recruiting trip checking out campus and sororities, and this is what they arrange to welcome the new kids.

 If people are so freaked out a minor was drinking at a college party, then maybe you should be asking why they annually invite high school kids to come, and then the greek systems arrange these parties specifically for them, usually trying to one-up each other on insanity of parties to stand out from the rest of the places they could pledge.

 Its not like she snuck in, these parties are normally aimed right at these kids. She was right where she was supposed to be. the university system and the greek orgs survival depends on that kind of recruiting


the whole kids drinking thing cracks me up.
EVERYONE I know drank in high school.
 
2013-03-27 09:14:25 PM

namatad: CliChe Guevara: I don't get why everyone is freaked out that she was a high school student at a frat party - she was on a recruiting trip checking out campus and sororities, and this is what they arrange to welcome the new kids.

 If people are so freaked out a minor was drinking at a college party, then maybe you should be asking why they annually invite high school kids to come, and then the greek systems arrange these parties specifically for them, usually trying to one-up each other on insanity of parties to stand out from the rest of the places they could pledge.

 Its not like she snuck in, these parties are normally aimed right at these kids. She was right where she was supposed to be. the university system and the greek orgs survival depends on that kind of recruiting

the whole kids drinking thing cracks me up.
EVERYONE I know drank in high school.




Yep. And lots of girls in my high school were dating guys in their twenties, and undoubtedly having sex with them as well. But that was in the early 80's, when the boomers were young, and if they had kids at all, those kids were in preschool or kindergarten at best. All of this freaking out has had a strong correlation to that generation's kids coming of age.
 
2013-03-27 09:23:21 PM

Repo Man: Yep. And lots of girls in my high school were dating guys in their twenties, and undoubtedly having sex with them as well. But that was in the early 80's, when the boomers were young, and if they had kids at all, those kids were in preschool or kindergarten at best. All of this freaking out has had a strong correlation to that generation's kids coming of age.


funny how that repeats EVERY SINGLE generation
 
2013-03-27 10:18:41 PM

namatad: were the under-aged drinkers arrested??


 of course not. the university needs the students (actually, their parents cash), so they depend on these recruiting drives to a staggering degree.
 the university can't -directly- buy the booze for them, but they can run interference with the cops so the greeks can, without worries of legal hassle. until someone gets hurt, then they are all 'we don't condone this kind of thing'.

 its all about the plausible deniability while still staying competitive with recruiting, and no one is naive enough to think the important part of recruiting of high school students over those weekend visits are the brochures and daytime powerpoint lectures. thats why afterward they feed those kids to the frats raw.
 
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