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2013-03-26 10:43:33 AM  
It goes well with the nature of the tour where there's going to be a lot of whisky and cigars

Live the dream guys, live the dream....
 
2013-03-26 11:40:58 AM  
That's just farkin cool.
 
2013-03-26 12:13:13 PM  
Want!
 
2013-03-26 01:13:28 PM  
i.tbs.com

Unimpressed
 
2013-03-26 01:51:50 PM  
See, here is evidence that the 1% are job creators!
 
2013-03-26 01:54:29 PM  
Just make sure someone is reading them a Dumas novel while they work because tradition matters.
 
2013-03-26 01:55:16 PM  
I don't understand this.  Is it because they feel they're entitled to ridiculous things because they have infinity dollars?

Hiring a cigar roller 'cause you suck at it is one thing.  I get that.  But the other crap he (and others) have had on riders?  DUMB DIDDLY DUMB DUMB.
 
2013-03-26 01:57:40 PM  
farking douchebags. Seriously, this is the exact same shiat Fark crucifies hipsters and nimbys over, but these cretins get a pass?
 
2013-03-26 01:58:07 PM  
Sometimes you just have to spell everything out. Some people miss the point so you have to be blunt about it.
 
2013-03-26 02:03:39 PM  

busy chillin': Sometimes you just have to spell everything out. Some people miss the point so you have to be blunt about it.


He hired Redman?

cdn1.welovetheherb.com
 
2013-03-26 02:08:13 PM  
I doubt that's tobacco in them cigars.

/gold laced marijuana?
 
2013-03-26 02:10:17 PM  

Kanemano: busy chillin': Sometimes you just have to spell everything out. Some people miss the point so you have to be blunt about it.

He hired Redman?

[cdn1.welovetheherb.com image 480x360]


I guess being a financial advisor just doesn't pay the bills.
 
2013-03-26 02:18:21 PM  

Lee's_Austin: Kanemano: busy chillin': Sometimes you just have to spell everything out. Some people miss the point so you have to be blunt about it.

He hired Redman?

[cdn1.welovetheherb.com image 480x360]

I guess being a financial advisor just doesn't pay the bills.


doing what he loves on the side as a 'hobby' that pays?

i've known guys like that, that wound up making their hobby pay more than their real job.

//i'd have to move to alaska to take up outfitting/hunting guide work on the side.
 
2013-03-26 02:20:20 PM  
Any true cigar smoker knows you don't smoke freshly rolled cigars.


3-5 years of age minimum if you know what the hell you're talking about.
 
2013-03-26 02:23:48 PM  

Kanemano: busy chillin': Sometimes you just have to spell everything out. Some people miss the point so you have to be blunt about it.

He hired Redman?

[cdn1.welovetheherb.com image 480x360]


Lick the blunt and then the Philly Blunt middle you split
Don't have a razor blade, use yo farkin' fingertips
Crack the bag and then you pour the whole bag in
Spread the ism around until the ism reach each end
Take your finger and your thumb from tip to tip
Roll it in a motion then the top piece you lick
Seal it, dry it wit yo lighter if ya gotta
The results, hmm, proper
 
2013-03-26 02:33:24 PM  
I think about half the people who smoke cigars don't actually enjoy cigars.
 
2013-03-26 02:36:08 PM  
i1168.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-26 02:39:33 PM  

Alphakronik: Any true cigar smoker knows you don't smoke freshly rolled cigars.


3-5 years of age minimum if you know what the hell you're talking about.


As others have said, im not sure these are tobacco cigar cigars...

www.everyonedoesit.com

/cant remember the last time i smoked a blunt that wasnt offered to me by a random guy at a bus stop...
 
2013-03-26 02:41:56 PM  
Jay-Z:  "Hey...uhhhh....hey buddy.  Heya.  I'm not saying we should....nevermind."

Justin:  "Uhhh....what?  Come again?"

Jay-Z:   "Nothing!"

Justin:  "Dude.  If you want to swap Beyonce for Jessica, just ask.  I'm down."
 
2013-03-26 02:47:19 PM  

lesliessexxy: I don't understand this.


drewogatory: farking douchebags.


They are paying somebody to provide a service.  Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.
 
2013-03-26 02:53:21 PM  

Thunderboy: They are paying somebody to provide a service. Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.


I think the "who is paying" is the issue as these are riders on their contract(s).
 
2013-03-26 03:11:18 PM  

Thunderboy: lesliessexxy: I don't understand this.

drewogatory: farking douchebags.

They are paying somebody to provide a service.  Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.


Well-known person + any activity = Fark hate

/math
 
2013-03-26 03:14:35 PM  
Is the headline some sort of Clinton joke?

/DRTFA
 
2013-03-26 03:29:50 PM  

Alphakronik: Any true cigar smoker knows you don't smoke freshly rolled cigars.


3-5 years of age minimum if you know what the hell you're talking about.


So true.  And any cigar roller worth his weight is employed by companies like Arturo Fuente or Padron who have access to the finest tobaccos and thus rate the finest and most expert rollers.  There is a good reason why premium cigars can cost you between $30 to $50 each.
 
2013-03-26 03:40:47 PM  

drewogatory: farking douchebags. Seriously, this is the exact same shiat Fark crucifies hipsters and nimbys over, but these cretins get a pass?


No, but we got to get a majority vote of the public before we can behead them legally.
 
2013-03-26 03:43:19 PM  

Thunderboy: lesliessexxy: I don't understand this.

drewogatory: farking douchebags.

They are paying somebody to provide a service.  Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.


I think it's the conspicuous consumption aspect to it. To many people this type of thing just demonstrates that money can't buy class.
 
2013-03-26 03:55:19 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: So true. And any cigar roller worth his weight is employed by companies like Arturo Fuente or Padron who have access to the finest tobaccos and thus rate the finest and most expert rollers. There is a good reason why premium cigars can cost you between $30 to $50 each.


Padron 3000. if it cost you more than 10 bucks you're getting dicked
 
2013-03-26 03:56:59 PM  

drewogatory: farking douchebags. Seriously, this is the exact same shiat Fark crucifies hipsters and nimbys over, but these cretins get a pass?


This entire JT "album" seems to be nothing more than an attempt to create a 21st Century Rat Pack.

Douchebags will be douchebags.
 
2013-03-26 03:59:43 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: There is a good reason why premium cigars can cost you between $30 to $50 each.


Never did develop a taste for the expensive ones.  My choice (and they rock):

i1168.photobucket.com

Not sure about the quantity of three.
 
2013-03-26 04:00:37 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Psycoholic_Slag: So true. And any cigar roller worth his weight is employed by companies like Arturo Fuente or Padron who have access to the finest tobaccos and thus rate the finest and most expert rollers. There is a good reason why premium cigars can cost you between $30 to $50 each.

Padron 3000. if it cost you more than 10 bucks you're getting dicked


The law of diminishing returns: A $20 cigar is likely better than a $10 one, but not twice as good.
 
2013-03-26 04:15:36 PM  
Meh,
Would rather be drinking margaritas onstage with the Red Rocker anyday.
www.exposay.com
 
2013-03-26 04:37:38 PM  

FTGodWin: This entire JT "album" seems to be nothing more than an attempt to create a 21st Century Rat Pack.


Didn't Diddy and Ashton Kutcher try this once before, too?  Ugh.

Yeah, I'm in the Fark Minority here, but JT has always struck me as kind of a douchebag.
 
2013-03-26 04:42:27 PM  

Alphakronik: Any true cigar smoker knows you don't smoke freshly rolled cigars.


3-5 years of age minimum if you know what the hell you're talking about.


Mostly agreed. I do pick up some hand rolled fresh ones now and then, and let them mingle with the others in the humidor for a few months. A few of the gars Ive got in my humidor have been there a couple years, on top of the aging they got in the factory aging rooms.

I just picked up  a box of Swisher Sweets hand rolled premiums, from 2005. Theyve been in my humidor for a couple weeks now, might be time to test one out.

/favorite is Drew Estate
 
2013-03-26 04:42:50 PM  

Cyno01: Alphakronik: Any true cigar smoker knows you don't smoke freshly rolled cigars.


3-5 years of age minimum if you know what the hell you're talking about.

As others have said, im not sure these are tobacco cigar cigars...

[www.everyonedoesit.com image 261x267]

/cant remember the last time i smoked a blunt that wasnt offered to me by a random guy at a bus stop...


No, Jay-Z is a cigar smoker of good character (featured in Cigar Aficionado), and with the way JT was giving the stink eye to Jonathan Ross over a few Tequila shots, I'm not sure he's up on smoking down.

Besides, who the hell can't roll a blunt?
 
2013-03-26 04:43:49 PM  
Did the same thing for my wedding.  Just another reason I love my wife.  Asked her if we could ditch the cake and get a cigar roller and she actually said "fark Yes We Can!"

Was not as expensive as I thought it would be either, and people loved it.
 
2013-03-26 04:48:48 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: /favorite is Drew Estate


suck up

;-)
 
2013-03-26 04:51:53 PM  

Alphakronik: Besides, who the hell can't roll a blunt?


Oh I've seen plenty of people who are too stupid to roll a blunt. They end up ripping the wrap or rolling it stupidly. The last blunt I smoked was rolled perfectly and so was the one before that because I stopped hanging out with idiots.
 
2013-03-26 04:54:02 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Thunderboy: lesliessexxy: I don't understand this.

drewogatory: farking douchebags.

They are paying somebody to provide a service.  Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.

Well-known person + any activity = Fark hate

/math


Your math is a a bit flawed. In some cases it's Fark Fellatio that's on the right side of the equation.
 
2013-03-26 05:23:18 PM  
They should hire songwriters to plagiarize more of Biggie's rhymes.
 
2013-03-26 05:25:51 PM  

A Terrible Human: The last blunt I smoked was rolled perfectly and so was the one before that because I stopped hanging out with idiots.


Now that struck me funny....
 
2013-03-26 05:33:36 PM  

Sybarite: Just make sure someone is reading them a Dumas novel while they work because tradition matters.


*Applause*
 
2013-03-26 05:37:20 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: /favorite is Drew Estate



As long as you don't put Acids in the same humidor as the regular cigars.
 
2013-03-26 05:44:42 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Thunderboy: lesliessexxy: I don't understand this.

drewogatory: farking douchebags.

They are paying somebody to provide a service.  Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.

Well-known person + any activity = Fark hate

/math


No hate.  I just don't get it.  People don't *NEED* to be driven around in a certain type of vehicle, or have a certain type of bottled water, or only green M&Ms, or whatever the Hell.

"Please make sure there are at least two chairs and one non-soiled couch in my dressing room" is way more reasonable, IMO

/YMMV
//took me too long to learn what YMMV meant
///I HATE MATH
 
2013-03-26 06:18:46 PM  

ristst: Psycoholic_Slag: There is a good reason why premium cigars can cost you between $30 to $50 each.

Never did develop a taste for the expensive ones.  My choice (and they rock):

[i1168.photobucket.com image 170x170]

Not sure about the quantity of three.


do they come with a battered hat and a serape yet?

/always snickered over the clint eastwood jokes. half the reason i upgraded to a pipe.
 
2013-03-26 06:52:22 PM  

Alphakronik: Any true cigar smoker knows you don't smoke freshly rolled cigars.


3-5 years of age minimum if you know what the hell you're talking about.


When all you care about is image, practicality is irrelevant.

Alternatively, this could be a misquote by the 'reporter'.  He could have hired a cigar expert to provide quality supplies for each evening, and additional procurement skills.  This would be akin to having an 'on hand' wine expert that supplies the appropriate pairings for your evening, etc.
 
2013-03-26 06:58:22 PM  
I like that new song Timberlake has out.

/Jay-Z is smarter than you, random Fark poster calling him names
 
2013-03-26 06:58:24 PM  
Getting ready to burn a Cusano CC. Not a bad stick for early week smoke
 
2013-03-26 07:03:26 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Psycoholic_Slag: So true. And any cigar roller worth his weight is employed by companies like Arturo Fuente or Padron who have access to the finest tobaccos and thus rate the finest and most expert rollers. There is a good reason why premium cigars can cost you between $30 to $50 each.

Padron 3000. if it cost you more than 10 bucks you're getting dicked


The 3000 series is a fine cigar as are all of the Padron line, but my taste is for the 1926 Anniversary series and they start at about $27 for the smaller ones and go up from there.  I know I can get great deals online but I only smoke maybe one cigar a month anymore. I've been smoking cigars for about 27 years now and my tastes have evolved to the point where it is just too damn expensive.  Started smoking a pipe about a year ago and I'm enjoying the hell out of that at MUCH cheaper prices.
 
2013-03-26 07:14:12 PM  

js34603: I like that new song Timberlake has out.

/Jay-Z is smarter than you, random Fark poster calling him names


Everybody is smarter than me, but I never shot my own brother.
 
2013-03-26 07:30:04 PM  

The Muthaship: js34603: I like that new song Timberlake has out.

/Jay-Z is smarter than you, random Fark poster calling him names

Everybody is smarter than me, but I never shot my own brother.



blackthespian.com
 
2013-03-26 07:35:06 PM  
I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.
 
2013-03-26 07:38:04 PM  

T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.



IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?
 
2013-03-26 09:46:18 PM  
Came for the blunts, leaving sorta paranoid.
 
2013-03-26 10:55:36 PM  

The_Sponge: T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.

IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?


That's exactly what it was there for, yes.

johnny_vegas: Thunderboy: They are paying somebody to provide a service. Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.

I think the "who is paying" is the issue as these are riders on their contract(s).


"Who is paying" is Jay-Z and JT.  They are hiring the guy to go on tour with them.  It's not a rider item.  Did you read the article?  Did you read the headline of the article?

That said, most people don't understand just how important rider items can be.  Sure, some silly stuff tends to work its way in there, usually for the aforementioned purpose of ensuring the contract is read by the venue PM/promoter/etc.  Sometimes it is for the purpose of keeping everyone sane on the road.  You're living in a freaking bus.  No matter how you gild it, it's always going to be a bus.  Your backstage space at the venue is your home/office for the day, so something more comfortable than a few lawn chairs in the boiler room is usually preferred, particularly when you are doing interviews or whatever.  Yes, there a some artists who opt for excess in regards to the decor, but the price of renting some furniture and putting up some pipe & drape is worth keeping everyone in a good mood.

/my rider items were 1/2 pound of locally roasted coffee and a pack of sugar-free gum (peppermint)
 
2013-03-27 02:08:48 AM  
Cigar thread!

/On a Ramon Bueso Genesis kick lately
 
2013-03-27 03:17:11 AM  

The_Sponge: T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.


IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?


No. That was just a cover story DLR came up with years later.
 
2013-03-27 09:11:16 AM  

T.M.S.: No. That was just a cover story DLR came up with years later.


I saw the interview where he cited a couple of specific incidents related their extremely heavy stage setup, and the rider apparently had legitimate warnings about the weight of the stage.  He said one place didn't have the M&Ms right, so he trashed the dressing room ($200-300 of damage) because they didn't read the rider.  And then the stage was indeed too heavy and it caused a lotta damage to the venue.  The next day the news reported the band caused $1M in damage.

Didn't sound that far fetched to me.
 
2013-03-27 09:33:02 AM  

ristst: T.M.S.: No. That was just a cover story DLR came up with years later.

I saw the interview where he cited a couple of specific incidents related their extremely heavy stage setup, and the rider apparently had legitimate warnings about the weight of the stage.  He said one place didn't have the M&Ms right, so he trashed the dressing room ($200-300 of damage) because they didn't read the rider.  And then the stage was indeed too heavy and it caused a lotta damage to the venue.  The next day the news reported the band caused $1M in damage.

Didn't sound that far fetched to me.


It's a believable story but its untrue.  The no brown M&Ms we specified in the hospitality section of the rider. He is lying.
 
2013-03-27 12:14:36 PM  

Thunderboy: The_Sponge: T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.

IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?

That's exactly what it was there for, yes.

johnny_vegas: Thunderboy: They are paying somebody to provide a service. Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.

I think the "who is paying" is the issue as these are riders on their contract(s).

"Who is paying" is Jay-Z and JT.  They are hiring the guy to go on tour with them.  It's not a rider item.  Did you read the article?  Did you read the headline of the article?

That said, most people don't understand just how important rider items can be.  Sure, some silly stuff tends to work its way in there, usually for the aforementioned purpose of ensuring the contract is read by the venue PM/promoter/etc.  Sometimes it is for the purpose of keeping everyone sane on the road.  You're living in a freaking bus.  No matter how you gild it, it's always going to be a bus.  Your backstage space at the venue is your home/office for the day, so something more comfortable than a few lawn chairs in the boiler room is usually preferred, particularly when you are doing interviews or whatever.  Yes, there a some artists who opt for excess in regards to the decor, but the price of renting some furniture and putting up some pipe & drape is worth keeping everyone in a good mood.

/my rider items were 1/2 pound of locally roasted coffee and a pack of sugar-free gum (peppermint)


hmmmm..and the maybach???  I get your point, though you (probably) didn't need to be such a dick in your response.
 
2013-03-27 10:22:04 PM  

johnny_vegas: hmmmm..and the maybach???  I get your point, though you (probably) didn't need to be such a dick in your response.


Where did it say that was a rider item?  And even if it was, so what?  The hire fee would be insignificant relative to the money everyone made on those shows.

I wasn't being a dick, I was asking a serious question, and one that tends to be asked a lot here.  welcomtofark.jpeg?
 
2013-03-28 11:19:48 AM  

Thunderboy: johnny_vegas: hmmmm..and the maybach???  I get your point, though you (probably) didn't need to be such a dick in your response.

Where did it say that was a rider item?  And even if it was, so what?  The hire fee would be insignificant relative to the money everyone made on those shows.

I wasn't being a dick, I was asking a serious question, and one that tends to be asked a lot here.  welcomtofark.jpeg?


Welcome to fark, noob.... you are being a dick. I did RTFA and you are too close to the forest obviously.  Quit moving the goalposts (somehting else said on fark a lot, right?).  The issue from my post was who pays..now your retort is who cares....well if assinine riders cause ticket prices to go up maybethe fan cares.  So youreally want everyone ot cry a river of tears for the deplorable conditions artsts have to put up with as they ply their craft?  sing it again baby.
 
2013-03-28 12:19:00 PM  

johnny_vegas: The issue from my post was who pays..now your retort is who cares...

"

No, the answer in regard to the focus of the article was "the artist."

If you get this riled up when someone asks whether or not you read a bit of internet fluff, well...best of luck to you.
 
2013-03-28 09:24:37 PM  

Thunderboy: johnny_vegas: The issue from my post was who pays..now your retort is who cares..."

No, the answer in regard to the focus of the article was "the artist."

If you get this riled up when someone asks whether or not you read a bit of internet fluff, well...best of luck to you.


meh, i was a jerk in my response you are right...bad morning
 
2013-03-29 01:47:50 AM  

johnny_vegas: meh, i was a jerk in my response you are right...bad morning


i13.photobucket.com
 
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