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(Contact Music)   Ultimate Band Riders: Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake Hire Cigar Rolling Expert for Backstage ''Gentleman's Club''   (contactmusic.com) divider line 64
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2013-03-26 07:35:06 PM  
I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.
 
2013-03-26 07:38:04 PM  

T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.



IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?
 
2013-03-26 09:46:18 PM  
Came for the blunts, leaving sorta paranoid.
 
2013-03-26 10:55:36 PM  

The_Sponge: T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.

IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?


That's exactly what it was there for, yes.

johnny_vegas: Thunderboy: They are paying somebody to provide a service. Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.

I think the "who is paying" is the issue as these are riders on their contract(s).


"Who is paying" is Jay-Z and JT.  They are hiring the guy to go on tour with them.  It's not a rider item.  Did you read the article?  Did you read the headline of the article?

That said, most people don't understand just how important rider items can be.  Sure, some silly stuff tends to work its way in there, usually for the aforementioned purpose of ensuring the contract is read by the venue PM/promoter/etc.  Sometimes it is for the purpose of keeping everyone sane on the road.  You're living in a freaking bus.  No matter how you gild it, it's always going to be a bus.  Your backstage space at the venue is your home/office for the day, so something more comfortable than a few lawn chairs in the boiler room is usually preferred, particularly when you are doing interviews or whatever.  Yes, there a some artists who opt for excess in regards to the decor, but the price of renting some furniture and putting up some pipe & drape is worth keeping everyone in a good mood.

/my rider items were 1/2 pound of locally roasted coffee and a pack of sugar-free gum (peppermint)
 
2013-03-27 02:08:48 AM  
Cigar thread!

/On a Ramon Bueso Genesis kick lately
 
2013-03-27 03:17:11 AM  

The_Sponge: T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.


IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?


No. That was just a cover story DLR came up with years later.
 
2013-03-27 09:11:16 AM  

T.M.S.: No. That was just a cover story DLR came up with years later.


I saw the interview where he cited a couple of specific incidents related their extremely heavy stage setup, and the rider apparently had legitimate warnings about the weight of the stage.  He said one place didn't have the M&Ms right, so he trashed the dressing room ($200-300 of damage) because they didn't read the rider.  And then the stage was indeed too heavy and it caused a lotta damage to the venue.  The next day the news reported the band caused $1M in damage.

Didn't sound that far fetched to me.
 
2013-03-27 09:33:02 AM  

ristst: T.M.S.: No. That was just a cover story DLR came up with years later.

I saw the interview where he cited a couple of specific incidents related their extremely heavy stage setup, and the rider apparently had legitimate warnings about the weight of the stage.  He said one place didn't have the M&Ms right, so he trashed the dressing room ($200-300 of damage) because they didn't read the rider.  And then the stage was indeed too heavy and it caused a lotta damage to the venue.  The next day the news reported the band caused $1M in damage.

Didn't sound that far fetched to me.


It's a believable story but its untrue.  The no brown M&Ms we specified in the hospitality section of the rider. He is lying.
 
2013-03-27 12:14:36 PM  

Thunderboy: The_Sponge: T.M.S.: I don't think I have ever seen anything out of the ordinary on a legitimate rider. The cigars, like the no brown M&M's, is just ridiculous posturing for publicity's sake. Which is fine. But don't mistake it for anything else.

IIRC, wasn't the whole M&M thing to make sure that those in charge were paying attention to the details?

That's exactly what it was there for, yes.

johnny_vegas: Thunderboy: They are paying somebody to provide a service. Not sure what the big scandal is supposed to be here.

I think the "who is paying" is the issue as these are riders on their contract(s).

"Who is paying" is Jay-Z and JT.  They are hiring the guy to go on tour with them.  It's not a rider item.  Did you read the article?  Did you read the headline of the article?

That said, most people don't understand just how important rider items can be.  Sure, some silly stuff tends to work its way in there, usually for the aforementioned purpose of ensuring the contract is read by the venue PM/promoter/etc.  Sometimes it is for the purpose of keeping everyone sane on the road.  You're living in a freaking bus.  No matter how you gild it, it's always going to be a bus.  Your backstage space at the venue is your home/office for the day, so something more comfortable than a few lawn chairs in the boiler room is usually preferred, particularly when you are doing interviews or whatever.  Yes, there a some artists who opt for excess in regards to the decor, but the price of renting some furniture and putting up some pipe & drape is worth keeping everyone in a good mood.

/my rider items were 1/2 pound of locally roasted coffee and a pack of sugar-free gum (peppermint)


hmmmm..and the maybach???  I get your point, though you (probably) didn't need to be such a dick in your response.
 
2013-03-27 10:22:04 PM  

johnny_vegas: hmmmm..and the maybach???  I get your point, though you (probably) didn't need to be such a dick in your response.


Where did it say that was a rider item?  And even if it was, so what?  The hire fee would be insignificant relative to the money everyone made on those shows.

I wasn't being a dick, I was asking a serious question, and one that tends to be asked a lot here.  welcomtofark.jpeg?
 
2013-03-28 11:19:48 AM  

Thunderboy: johnny_vegas: hmmmm..and the maybach???  I get your point, though you (probably) didn't need to be such a dick in your response.

Where did it say that was a rider item?  And even if it was, so what?  The hire fee would be insignificant relative to the money everyone made on those shows.

I wasn't being a dick, I was asking a serious question, and one that tends to be asked a lot here.  welcomtofark.jpeg?


Welcome to fark, noob.... you are being a dick. I did RTFA and you are too close to the forest obviously.  Quit moving the goalposts (somehting else said on fark a lot, right?).  The issue from my post was who pays..now your retort is who cares....well if assinine riders cause ticket prices to go up maybethe fan cares.  So youreally want everyone ot cry a river of tears for the deplorable conditions artsts have to put up with as they ply their craft?  sing it again baby.
 
2013-03-28 12:19:00 PM  

johnny_vegas: The issue from my post was who pays..now your retort is who cares...

"

No, the answer in regard to the focus of the article was "the artist."

If you get this riled up when someone asks whether or not you read a bit of internet fluff, well...best of luck to you.
 
2013-03-28 09:24:37 PM  

Thunderboy: johnny_vegas: The issue from my post was who pays..now your retort is who cares..."

No, the answer in regard to the focus of the article was "the artist."

If you get this riled up when someone asks whether or not you read a bit of internet fluff, well...best of luck to you.


meh, i was a jerk in my response you are right...bad morning
 
2013-03-29 01:47:50 AM  

johnny_vegas: meh, i was a jerk in my response you are right...bad morning


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