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(Independent)   Bad news for Johns: Sweden's innovative new sex-trade laws are bad for business.. for you, not the prostitutes   (independent.co.uk) divider line 17
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2013-03-26 02:51:04 PM
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Bad news for Johns Jans: Sweden's innovative new sex-trade laws are bad for business.. for you, not the prostitutes


FTFY, Subby.
2013-03-26 02:54:17 PM
2 votes:
Oh, sure.

When a woman goes to another country to have sex she's "getting her groove back" and it's "empowering".

When I do it it's "sex tourism" and "evil".
2013-03-26 01:17:07 PM
2 votes:
The driver of the car, who's brought a prostituted woman to the island to have sex, is arrested on the spot. He's given a choice: admit the offence and pay a fine, based on income, or go to court and risk publicity.

Well that certainly doesn't resemble any form of extortion.
2013-03-26 09:57:02 PM
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tallguywithglasseson: Haggstrom turns to me. "Having sex is not a human right," he says quietly.

It's not? It's a basic human need. Who should we be prohibiting from having sex and why?



It's funny you say that, because I argued in another Fark thread some weeks back that a lot of the problems women have with men (including but not limited to rape) comes from the idea that men think they NEED sex the same way people need food and drink to live.  And once you accept, on any level, that you really NEED sex, then you start to think that somebody, somewhere, owes you sex.  And that idea, in turn, affects how men think of women and treat them.

Of course, when I said that, people told me that I was being ridiculous, because no man actually believes that he NEEDS sex.

Then, weeks later, you come along.
2013-03-26 04:44:25 PM
1 votes:

weapon13: TFA "He's given a choice: admit the offence and pay a fine, based on income, or go to court and risk publicity."

What if your income is 0? Court it is then...


Most people with an income of zero are going to be unable to conduct an exchange of cash for sex in the first place.  Much the same way that a drunk person who does not have a car is unlikely to be charged with DUI.

END COMMUNICATION
2013-03-26 03:56:47 PM
1 votes:

Mr Guy: I don't understand how people, who are apparently rational and actually care, can't seem to understand the connection between crime and prostitution is because you criminalized it and people are still willing to pay for it, not because sex work automatically attracts abused women.


Yes, I'm certain that you don't understand it.
2013-03-26 03:23:26 PM
1 votes:

Civil_War2_Time: Resident Muslim: "...pay a fine, based on income"


John Tax?

John Dough Tax


Why would the government leaven such taxes on them?!
2013-03-26 03:19:16 PM
1 votes:
So let me get this straight.  The women are allowed to sell something that it is illegal to buy.  They get the money, direct the guy to a place they know is under surveillance, stall for a few minutes, let the cops shake the guy down, then the women walk away with the money.

Is that about right?  What could possibly go wrong with this?
2013-03-26 03:18:07 PM
1 votes:

The_Sponge: 8 inches: Anyone have an idea of what a Swedish Prostitute might look like?


A lot like a Norwegian prostitute.


and has more teeth than an English prostitute
2013-03-26 03:16:03 PM
1 votes:

cboppert: These women need money or else they generally wouldn't be doing it (or they're being extorted by pimps, have had terrible childhoods, drugs), where as the men spending the money are generally well enough off to be trolling the streets for prostitutes on a given night.


That sentence goes for every person in every job, ever.  Two people have resources they value less than the resource another is willing to exchange.  Why does it matter that it's a sexual experience, and money?   We all know the only REAL answer is because in general, sexual promiscuity leads to court hassles with inheritance rights, as well as the spread of disease an unwanted children.  We basically say, because you might catch a disease, and we don't want to deal with the hassle of unintended pregnancy, we're going to interfere with your basic biological functions.
2013-03-26 03:12:02 PM
1 votes:

Resident Muslim: "...pay a fine, based on income"


John Tax?


John Dough Tax
2013-03-26 03:11:34 PM
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boinkingbill: No wonder why Julian Assange didn't want to go back to Sweden. That country has turned into a feminazi man hating crunt. I guess on the good side it looks like the easy life of a prostitute will come to an end.


Oh what most of us wouldn't give to enjoy the easy life of a prostitute...
2013-03-26 03:08:32 PM
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I don't understand how people, who are apparently rational and actually care, can't seem to understand the connection between crime and prostitution is because you criminalized it and people are still willing to pay for it, not because sex work automatically attracts abused women.   You can't force women into legal sex work, because they'd have rights and the ability to defend their employment rights in court; you can only force them into illegal sex work because you stripped their rights.  Governments create the problem by trying to control something you will never successfully control: The ability of an ugly person to get their junk played with.

You wouldn't be ABLE to harm sex workers if you stopped treat sex work like a crime, just because there's some bodily fluids involved, and it has nothing to do with villainizing the guy who has more resources than social skills and available vagina.  Someone with resources will always find a way to trade them for sex, food, and security.  Making a specific type of transfer illegal whether or not someone was victimized is what GIVES you the ability to victimize.
2013-03-26 03:02:52 PM
1 votes:
the Nobel Awards even
2013-03-26 02:59:26 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: The_Gallant_Gallstone: They should just do what we do in America... arrest everybody.

And sell mugshots.


But only the amusing ones, cause that's what counts here; our amusement. Guilt or innocence is irrelevant.
2013-03-26 02:53:50 PM
1 votes:
Riiiiiiight up until a politician gets caught.
2013-03-26 02:49:33 PM
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Sybarite: The driver of the car, who's brought a prostituted woman to the island to have sex, is arrested on the spot. He's given a choice: admit the offence and pay a fine, based on income, or go to court and risk publicity.

Well that certainly doesn't resemble any form of extortion.


That poor guy buying sex.
 
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