ciberido: It's a little like how in rape threads someone always points out that men get raped, too, and some women commit rape. Yes, that's true, not all rapists are male, nor are all rape victims female. But at the same time, while not all rapists are male, the vast majority are. Any policy designed to address the problem needs to handle both reality (that there are female johns, and female rapists, but that they're the minority by far).
Telos: Agent Smiths Laugh: The_Sponge: tallguywithglasseson: Haggstrom turns to me. "Having sex is not a human right," he says quietly.It's not? It's a basic human need. Who should we be prohibiting from having sex and why?//arguing "buying sex is not a human right" might have some stronger argumentsWait....what?It's a want, not a need./Although I do get very cranky during slumps.(gasp) You're right! Our species can survive just fine without sex! We should just do away with the whole thing, since we don't need it anyway.I mean, the fact that every sexually reproducing organize on the planet has a built in sex drive is just a coincidence right? RIGHT?I'm sure they'd be fine without it too.Yet, I lived for 32 years without sex.../sigh//agrees with you more than Agent Smiths Laugh///finds your logic spurious, at best
patchvonbraun: I think that as a *species*, we undeniably "need" sex. But for any given individual the "need" for sex is less survival-critical than, let's say air, or food, or water.But at the same time, dismissing human sex drive as a kind of "frill" or "luxury" ignores a significant aspect of both our biology, and the basic drives that make us human, and not, let's say, cucumbers.Human females come into oestrus every 28 days or so,for several days--which means your average human male has to be ready to go pretty-much all the time. On average, there's an awful lot of horny out there, and it's not something that modern civilization just "made up"./hasn't had any in over a year//too broke for hookers///too shy for singles bars
rkiller1: So we face "reality" and pass laws to address the majority of the problem, but similar behavior in minorities are enforced differently? Do I have that correct? Your phrase "...handle both.." had a single descendent, so perhaps you handn't finished your thought?
SpiderQueenDemon: On average, you're looking at size-16 otaku girls with glasses and shyness; but with a little effort and the boost to self-esteem that comes of having a guy who finds them date-able and is willing to share healthy behaviors, they often slim down, seek makeovers and become significantly prettier with time, just as how most guys who get into healthy relationships lose weight, exercise more and are better fed.
Soupysales: Kudos to you and your man on getting healthier, but your situation does not necessarily translate to everyone else. The general assumption is people let themselves go after getting into a relationship. Hell, it's a cliche at this point. So for most people, grabbing a fat girl or guy (unless you're into that), with the expectation that you will magically motivate them to lose weight, is only going to end in flabby tears.The cat shelter might be good advice. Going for the fat person (unless that's what you want) is bad advice.
Lord Zardoz: weapon13: TFA "He's given a choice: admit the offence and pay a fine, based on income, or go to court and risk publicity."What if your income is 0? Court it is then...Most people with an income of zero are going to be unable to conduct an exchange of cash for sex in the first place. Much the same way that a drunk person who does not have a car is unlikely to be charged with DUI.END COMMUNICATION
duenor: Oh? How is Sweden going to fix those problems all over the world? It can't. What it CAN do is place the burden of risk in prostitution on the john, as it rightly should be. The john pays up or gets sent to court, the woman gets support in getting out of prostitution (and for forced sex workers, this is a very big deal), and the neighborhoods get a handle on the street trade.Even if Sweden fixes all those aforementioned issues in country (and it has made big steps to do so), women from abroad will still be brought over. that's ok. they're not trying to eradicate the sex trade, just provide a managing risk factor for those who would partake of it.I do agree that there should be a legalized system for prostitution. however, without a system like this that legalized system would never be able to compete against the many czech/korean/thai sex workers being coerced into selling their bodies for pittances.
that bosnian sniper: accepted the arguments of women's groups that prostitution is a barrier to gender equality
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