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(Den Of Geek)   David Goyer rebooted Superman because of a creative block while working on The Dark Knight Rises: "I was wasting time and procrastinating and took out an archive edition of some of the original Superman comic books....started rereading them"   (denofgeek.com) divider line 100
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2013-03-26 09:57:20 AM
What happened next? "He literally called Jeff Robinov, who's the head of Warner Bros, while I was sitting there..."

It would be better if people just laced their sh*t with profanity as in, "He f*cking called Jeff" or even "By golly, he called Jeff"
 
2013-03-26 10:14:58 AM
In what issue did we get Deadliest Catch Superman?
 
2013-03-26 10:24:38 AM

bdub77: What happened next? "He literally called Jeff Robinov, who's the head of Warner Bros, while I was sitting there..."

It would be better if people just laced their sh*t with profanity as in, "He f*cking called Jeff" or even "By golly, he called Jeff"


Should have used a tom Swiftie. "I called Jeff about superman," David said heroically
 
2013-03-26 10:26:43 AM
Warner Brothers essentially had the creative team behind their stellar money maker in Batman come to them with an idea for Superman, took one look over at the mountains of cash Marvel has been making in comic movies, then turned to that team and screamed

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2013-03-26 10:37:38 AM
Love Snyder, but washed out colors, melancholy voiceovers, and slow, sweeping shots of plain landscapes just doesn't scream "Superman" to me.

Then again, I think Superman is a woefully boring character so may be anything Superman-related just seems dull to me.
 
2013-03-26 10:48:35 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Love Snyder, but washed out colors, melancholy voiceovers, and slow, sweeping shots of plain landscapes just doesn't scream "Superman" to me.

Then again, I think Superman is a woefully boring character so may be anything Superman-related just seems dull to me.


Must be the Elseworlds version we saw in "Speeding Bullets" IIRC.
 
2013-03-26 10:53:26 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Love Snyder, but washed out colors, melancholy voiceovers, and slow, sweeping shots of plain landscapes just doesn't scream "Superman" to me.

Then again, I think Superman is a woefully boring character so may be anything Superman-related just seems dull to me.


I enjoyed what I've seen so far. It's like something out of a Greek myth.
 
2013-03-26 10:56:29 AM
FTFA:

What happened next? "(Nolan) literally called Jeff Robinov, who's the head of Warner Bros, while I was sitting there and said, "Jeff, Dave just told me this take on Superman and you need to hear it, I'd like to produce it. Can we come in?' And we went in the next day. That's how it happened. No, we weren't trying to do it, it just happened".

To be fair, if you were Jeff Rubinov, head of a studio that had been trying to sort out what to do with the Superman franchise, that must have been the easiest decision since Michael Mann walked in and pitched Heat, with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro already on board.



Convenient, yes.  I suppose you can do that when your Batman makes twelvety jilliojn dollars.  I hope they can make something of Superman.  But ..Heat?  Might be the height of Pacino and Deniro playing themselves in a movie.  It insists upon itself.   Sure, I watch it whenever it's on but it's nowhere near the movie it's made out to be.  Even the music score distractingly sucks.  So, I'm hoping the next revision of Superman is awesome, and not like Heat.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:09 AM
Must be why DKR seems like a half-finished mess.

/mostly kinda looking forward to Superman, though origin story and Zod seem like overkill in the first movie.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:42 AM
I'm a fan of Zack Snyder, and I like Superman. I'll see this opening day. All I really want is at least 40 total minutes of great special effects, and seeing Superman being Superman. No comedy, no romance, no real estate schemes... just big action with Superman punching people through walls. I think the movie will likely deliver. After "Sucker Punch", Snyder has something to prove. And this article is encouraging. It appears that the idea for the story came naturally and was actually creatively inspired. That's a good sign.

That said, the new costume sucks, and would rather have a new villain instead of Zod yet again.

/hoping for the best, preparing for the worst
 
2013-03-26 10:59:07 AM

Nana's Vibrator: FTFA:

What happened next? "(Nolan) literally called Jeff Robinov, who's the head of Warner Bros, while I was sitting there and said, "Jeff, Dave just told me this take on Superman and you need to hear it, I'd like to produce it. Can we come in?' And we went in the next day. That's how it happened. No, we weren't trying to do it, it just happened".

To be fair, if you were Jeff Rubinov, head of a studio that had been trying to sort out what to do with the Superman franchise, that must have been the easiest decision since Michael Mann walked in and pitched Heat, with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro already on board.


Convenient, yes.  I suppose you can do that when your Batman makes twelvety jilliojn dollars.  I hope they can make something of Superman.  But ..Heat?  Might be the height of Pacino and Deniro playing themselves in a movie.  It insists upon itself.   Sure, I watch it whenever it's on but it's nowhere near the movie it's made out to be.  Even the music score distractingly sucks.  So, I'm hoping the next revision of Superman is awesome, and not like Heat.


He was referring to how Heat must have been a no-brainer at the greenlight stage.
 
2013-03-26 11:01:01 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Love Snyder, but washed out colors, melancholy voiceovers, and slow, sweeping shots of plain landscapes just doesn't scream "Superman" to me.

Then again, I think Superman is a woefully boring character so may be anything Superman-related just seems dull to me.


Superman as the world knows it (and not the comic fans who know it well) is awfully vanilla - and not only that, the villain - versions of Lex Luthor we've seen (even with Hackman and Spacey playing him) are pretty dull, too.  I hope the hard core Superman fans are right that he can be more than just a guy with a conscience who is very strong and can fly.
 
2013-03-26 11:03:39 AM

thatguyoverthere70: I'm a fan of Zack Snyder, and I like Superman. I'll see this opening day. All I really want is at least 40 total minutes of great special effects, and seeing Superman being Superman. No comedy, no romance, no real estate schemes... just big action with Superman punching people through walls. I think the movie will likely deliver. After "Sucker Punch", Snyder has something to prove. And this article is encouraging. It appears that the idea for the story came naturally and was actually creatively inspired. That's a good sign.

That said, the new costume sucks, and would rather have a new villain instead of Zod yet again.

/hoping for the best, preparing for the worst


Sucker Punch gets a raw deal IMHO, that movie was deeper than most want to even remotely give credit for and slicker than a lot could pick up on.

That said, one thing is sure about this coming Supe, it will at least look amazing.
 
2013-03-26 11:03:39 AM

Nana's Vibrator: FTFA:


Convenient, yes.  I suppose you can do that when your Batman makes twelvety jilliojn dollars.  I hope they can make something of Superman.  But ..Heat?  Might be the height of Pacino and Deniro playing themselves in a movie.  It insists upon itself.   Sure, I watch it whenever it's on but it's nowhere near the movie it's made out to be.  Even the music score distractingly sucks.  So, I'm hoping the next revision of Superman is awesome, and not like Heat.


Well that's just about the craziest thing... oh wait. Superman. Bizarro. Bizarro world. I see, I get it. Well played. Bravo.
 
2013-03-26 11:05:17 AM

Nana's Vibrator: I hope the hard core Superman fans are right that he can be more than just a guy with a conscience who is very strong and can fly.


He could rule this planet and chooses not too, that right there has a deep story arc involved and something that often is never touched on.
 
2013-03-26 11:06:52 AM
IMHO what makes Superman boring is that he too many powers. Ditch the xray / heat vision, the breath thing, go back to jumping vs flying. Make the character powerful, but not as powerful as the previous movies.
 
2013-03-26 11:07:24 AM
I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.
 
2013-03-26 11:08:58 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Love Snyder, but washed out colors, melancholy voiceovers, and slow, sweeping shots of plain landscapes just doesn't scream "Superman" to me.

Then again, I think Superman is a woefully boring character so may be anything Superman-related just seems dull to me.

Superman as the world knows it (and not the comic fans who know it well) is awfully vanilla - and not only that, the villain - versions of Lex Luthor we've seen (even with Hackman and Spacey playing him) are pretty dull, too.  I hope the hard core Superman fans are right that he can be more than just a guy with a conscience who is very strong and can fly.


I am a fan of Superman, but I agree to a point.  They're using vanilla characters because they make sense in a live action movie that wants to try to stay grounded as much as possible with an alien character that possesses super human strength.  This is the major reason the Batman movies and comics are good.  Batman isn't really all that interesting as a character.  It's his villains that make him more interesting.  The Joker in The Dark Knight was the best part along with Harvey Dent once he becomes Two Face.  Bane pretty much sucked in The Dark Knight Rises and wasn't as much of a scary force as he is in the comics.
 
2013-03-26 11:15:33 AM

ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.


It would be nice but you'll never see it in live action. On the big screen Superman will only ever fight Zod, Luthor, Bank robbers, Natural Disasters or a twisted version of himself. The brain of a modern movie goer can handle no more than that from a Supes movie. Maybe non-human aliens are viable since Avengers, but even they were forgotten 10 seconds after the battle.
 
2013-03-26 11:17:49 AM

ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.


Surely they could do it, since we had to face whatever that woman turned into a robot thing at the end of Superman III, that I've been trying to figure out what the hell it was ever since.
 
2013-03-26 11:19:26 AM

Decillion: ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.

It would be nice but you'll never see it in live action. On the big screen Superman will only ever fight Zod, Luthor, Bank robbers, Natural Disasters or a twisted version of himself. The brain of a modern movie goer can handle no more than that from a Supes movie. Maybe non-human aliens are viable since Avengers, but even they were forgotten 10 seconds after the battle.


Avengers 2 is going to test this to the maximum limit if current held ideas about plot are correct.
 
2013-03-26 11:19:28 AM

Decillion: ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.

It would be nice but you'll never see it in live action. On the big screen Superman will only ever fight Zod, Luthor, Bank robbers, Natural Disasters or a twisted version of himself. The brain of a modern movie goer can handle no more than that from a Supes movie. Maybe non-human aliens are viable since Avengers, but even they were forgotten 10 seconds after the battle.


James Woods as Metallo could be interesting. But since he's a kryptonite fuelled villain, he either is normal for the majority of the movie or he's just a metacharacter. You know, how at a certain point all your foes are actually made out of your achilles heel? That's when you start reaching peak meta.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:56 AM

ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.


They really need to just blow it out with a big supervillain fight.  Brainiac, Darkseid, somebody to mix it up.  Hopefully we'll get that with this movie's Zod; he won't just be up to some planetary real estate scheme.  But come on, do we really need 40 minutes of origin/growing up story again?  who doesn't know Supes' backstory?  Take a cue from All-Star Superman, which got it done in 4 comic panels with 8 words.

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Shouldn't take more than a credit sequence at this point.  Then we can open to a grown Clark who already works at the Daily Planet and go from there.
 
2013-03-26 11:22:25 AM

ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.


He was supposed to be the baddie in the Death of Superman movie from the '90s that thankfully never happened.
 
2013-03-26 11:28:14 AM

thatguyoverthere70: I'm a fan of Zack Snyder, and I like Superman. I'll see this opening day. All I really want is at least 40 total minutes of great special effects, and seeing Superman being Superman. No comedy, no romance, no real estate schemes... just big action with Superman punching people through walls. I think the movie will likely deliver.




"40 minutes of special effects of robot fighting action, that's all i want to see...."
And this why we have the garbage known as the Transformer movies.
 
2013-03-26 11:34:23 AM
You know, I've watched the animated all-star superman several times, and it's a really good movie, IMO.  Not as deep or with as much going on as the comics, but the comics had a LOT going on.
 
2013-03-26 11:39:58 AM

Witty_Retort: Must be why DKR seems like a half-finished mess.

/mostly kinda looking forward to Superman, though origin story and Zod seem like overkill in the first movie.


maybe you'd prefer Lex Luthor, and maybe a real estate plot?

/yeesh.
 
2013-03-26 11:45:06 AM
We need another superman movie about much as we need another hole in the head.
Same with Spiderman and the Hulk.
 
2013-03-26 11:45:45 AM

Saber:
He was referring to how Heat must have been a no-brainer at the greenlight stage.

That makes more sense.


Decillion: Well that's just about the craziest thing... oh wait. Superman. Bizarro. Bizarro world. I see, I get it. Well played. Bravo.


No no, truthfully, Heat leaves a big empty space in my heart.  They do the armored car heist and the bank heist well.  A lot of it is Pacino talking quietly before HE TALKS VERY LOUDLY!

/What do we got?  WHAT DO WE GOT?
 
2013-03-26 11:56:15 AM

Bubblegum Tate: ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.

They really need to just blow it out with a big supervillain fight.  Brainiac, Darkseid, somebody to mix it up.  Hopefully we'll get that with this movie's Zod; he won't just be up to some planetary real estate scheme.  But come on, do we really need 40 minutes of origin/growing up story again?  who doesn't know Supes' backstory?  Take a cue from All-Star Superman, which got it done in 4 comic panels with 8 words.

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Shouldn't take more than a credit sequence at this point.  Then we can open to a grown Clark who already works at the Daily Planet and go from there.


They could do a straight Avengers ripoff.  JLA vs. Darkseid and his alien army in downtown Metropolis.
 
2013-03-26 11:58:52 AM

Bubblegum Tate: ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.

They really need to just blow it out with a big supervillain fight.  Brainiac, Darkseid, somebody to mix it up.  Hopefully we'll get that with this movie's Zod; he won't just be up to some planetary real estate scheme.  But come on, do we really need 40 minutes of origin/growing up story again?  who doesn't know Supes' backstory?  Take a cue from All-Star Superman, which got it done in 4 comic panels with 8 words.

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Shouldn't take more than a credit sequence at this point.  Then we can open to a grown Clark who already works at the Daily Planet and go from there.


This is what I've been saying for years:  IS THERE ANYONE ON EARTH WHO DOESN'T KNOW AT LEAST GENERALLY, ABOUT SUPERMAN?Perhaps some tribes in the Amazon, or a hermit on a mountaintop in tibet, but they won't see the movie anyway.He's an alien, he's real strong and he flies. What more background do you need? Get on with the plot.

I'm not saying you shouldn't flesh out his character -- his diniverse speech about "a cardboard world" is a good place to start -- but move the story ahead, don't keep going backward.

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/enough to drive a superbeing to drink
 
2013-03-26 12:00:07 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Sucker Punch gets a raw deal IMHO, that movie was deeper than most want to even remotely give credit for and slicker than a lot could pick up on.


eh, it really wasn't. There's not really any greater subtext to the movie than what's on the surface; even the big reveal just made me think "Yes, was this not established in the beginning?" It's a fun movie, but it seems a bit silly to act like it was any deeper than one giant music video/video game cut scene.
 
2013-03-26 12:03:42 PM

Metaluna Mutant: This is what I've been saying for years:  IS THERE ANYONE ON EARTH WHO DOESN'T KNOW AT LEAST GENERALLY, ABOUT SUPERMAN?Perhaps some tribes in the Amazon, or a hermit on a mountaintop in tibet, but they won't see the movie anyway.He's an alien, he's real strong and he flies. What more background do you need? Get on with the plot.

I'm not saying you shouldn't flesh out his character -- his diniverse speech about "a cardboard world" is a good place to start -- but move the story ahead, don't keep going backward.


I actually wonder if this is part of the reason The Amazing Spider-Man didn't get more love. Granted, they pretty much had to retell Spider-man's origin as they had rebooted the series, but it seems like if they could've found a way to nix retelling the origin from a movie only a decade prior, the movie probably would've got the respect it deserved.
 
2013-03-26 12:05:47 PM

FeedTheCollapse: eh, it really wasn't. There's not really any greater subtext to the movie than what's on the surface; even the big reveal just made me think "Yes, was this not established in the beginning?" It's a fun movie, but it seems a bit silly to act like it was any deeper than one giant music video/video game cut scene.


I should have clarified, its visually deeper than given credit for. Ultimately yes not much deeper plot than a puddle, but visually there were so many interconnected things and not just the immediate stuff in the forefront.

Metaluna Mutant: /enough to drive a superbeing to drink


Superman must be a light weight in the Super Hero world
 
2013-03-26 12:15:11 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Nana's Vibrator: I hope the hard core Superman fans are right that he can be more than just a guy with a conscience who is very strong and can fly.

He could rule this planet and chooses not too, that right there has a deep story arc involved and something that often is never touched on.


I wish they would go into that in a movie. I mean in the world of super man was are there any dictators? Or does superman personally remove them from power and drop them off in the Hague? And if is going to over throw governments where does he draw the line. Ok easy to say he would overthrow governments that are killing their citizens, but what about the ones that have really crappy policy? He could force the US to adopt Universal Health care and cut their defense spending by a huge amount, but would he?
 
2013-03-26 12:17:11 PM

FeedTheCollapse: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Sucker Punch gets a raw deal IMHO, that movie was deeper than most want to even remotely give credit for and slicker than a lot could pick up on.

eh, it really wasn't. There's not really any greater subtext to the movie than what's on the surface; even the big reveal just made me think "Yes, was this not established in the beginning?" It's a fun movie, but it seems a bit silly to act like it was any deeper than one giant music video/video game cut scene.


Nonsense. There were literal events, figurative events, and the meta viewer level to start with. Everything was both its own literal version as well as a symbolic representation of itself. The viewer was also part of the process, in effect, getting sucker punched ourselves.

Maybe you just missed all of that.
 
2013-03-26 12:21:04 PM
!SPOILERS!

Is that when he got stuck trying to think of why Bane didn't just detonate the bomb immediately and instead decided to wait a few weeks? Or why you'd send EVERY cop into an underground area? Or why the arch-villain Bane didn't put a guy at the top of the prison to shoot anyone trying to escape? Or why no-one in a busy cafe in a square in Italy was surprised to see a guy who looked just like that billionaire that recently died.

Seriously, that film had more holes than Swiss cheese.
 
2013-03-26 12:22:14 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: In what issue did we get Deadliest Catch Superman?


I'll just leave <a href="http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman's_beard " target="new">this</a> right here for you.
 
2013-03-26 12:22:35 PM
*yawn* Let me know when they make Red Son.
 
2013-03-26 12:31:33 PM

mechgreg: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Nana's Vibrator: I hope the hard core Superman fans are right that he can be more than just a guy with a conscience who is very strong and can fly.

He could rule this planet and chooses not too, that right there has a deep story arc involved and something that often is never touched on.

I wish they would go into that in a movie. I mean in the world of super man was are there any dictators? Or does superman personally remove them from power and drop them off in the Hague? And if is going to over throw governments where does he draw the line. Ok easy to say he would overthrow governments that are killing their citizens, but what about the ones that have really crappy policy? He could force the US to adopt Universal Health care and cut their defense spending by a huge amount, but would he?


That's a good point, actually. With Superman around, why would you need huge defense spending? What impact does his presence have on the economy?
 
2013-03-26 12:34:30 PM

mechgreg: I wish they would go into that in a movie. I mean in the world of super man was are there any dictators? Or does superman personally remove them from power and drop them off in the Hague? And if is going to over throw governments where does he draw the line. Ok easy to say he would overthrow governments that are killing their citizens, but what about the ones that have really crappy policy? He could force the US to adopt Universal Health care and cut their defense spending by a huge amount, but would he?


Red Son, I think its film ready as is
 
2013-03-26 12:36:50 PM

farkeruk: !SPOILERS!

Is that when he got stuck trying to think of why Bane didn't just detonate the bomb immediately and instead decided to wait a few weeks? Or why you'd send EVERY cop into an underground area? Or why the arch-villain Bane didn't put a guy at the top of the prison to shoot anyone trying to escape? Or why no-one in a busy cafe in a square in Italy was surprised to see a guy who looked just like that billionaire that recently died.

Seriously, that film had more holes than Swiss cheese.


My favorite one is where he is with Miranda Tate, has Catwoman get him and Fox out, then immediately asks where is Miranda and is told Bane took her, which was 2 scenes prior.
 
2013-03-26 12:37:08 PM
Hebalo:
Nonsense. There were literal events, figurative events, and the meta viewer level to start with. Everything was both its own literal version as well as a symbolic representation of itself. The viewer was also part of the process, in effect, getting sucker punched ourselves.

Maybe you just missed all of that.


Wait, was I supposed to be doing something other than looking at young scantily clad women in that movie?
If my memory serves me well, a girl literally starts a fire that kills her sister, is detained in an institution, then figuratively escapes into her subconscious and has some fantasy about being an imprisoned dancer under duress and subconsciously (subsubconscious?) fantasizes about being an action hero while she dances.  And the end result is that she smiles right before her lobotomy-like procedure.  So then Helloooo nurse Carla Gugino becomes suspicious and brings the paperwork to doctor Jon Hamm and his dick-showin' pants, and the signature forging slimeball gets in trouble.  But mostly scantily clad young women.  Was there more to see here?
 
2013-03-26 12:45:06 PM

snowshovel: thatguyoverthere70: I'm a fan of Zack Snyder, and I like Superman. I'll see this opening day. All I really want is at least 40 total minutes of great special effects, and seeing Superman being Superman. No comedy, no romance, no real estate schemes... just big action with Superman punching people through walls. I think the movie will likely deliver.

"40 minutes of special effects of robot fighting action, that's all i want to see...."
And this why we have the garbage known as the Transformer movies.


Not really, there was some AWESOME robot fighting action in the first Transformers movie.

Sadly it was only about six and a half seconds, but that one scene where Optimus decapitates Bonecrusher(?) was farking great.

It was what they did to pad it that sucked.
 
2013-03-26 12:46:14 PM

bdub77: What happened next? "He literally called Jeff Robinov, who's the head of Warner Bros, while I was sitting there..."

It would be better if people just laced their sh*t with profanity as in, "He f*cking called Jeff" or even "By golly, he called Jeff"


Would it literally be better?
 
2013-03-26 12:50:12 PM

farkeruk: !SPOILERS!

Is that when he got stuck trying to think of why Bane didn't just detonate the bomb immediately and instead decided to wait a few weeks? Or why you'd send EVERY cop into an underground area? Or why the arch-villain Bane didn't put a guy at the top of the prison to shoot anyone trying to escape? Or why no-one in a busy cafe in a square in Italy was surprised to see a guy who looked just like that billionaire that recently died.

Seriously, that film had more holes than Swiss cheese.


Or why Batman was barely in a movie about Batman?
 
2013-03-26 12:55:41 PM

Bubblegum Tate: ArkPanda: I'm surprised no one ever mentions Brainiac for these movies.  In Superman: TAS he was kind of a badass.

They really need to just blow it out with a big supervillain fight.  Brainiac, Darkseid, somebody to mix it up.  Hopefully we'll get that with this movie's Zod; he won't just be up to some planetary real estate scheme.  But come on, do we really need 40 minutes of origin/growing up story again?  who doesn't know Supes' backstory?  Take a cue from All-Star Superman, which got it done in 4 comic panels with 8 words.


I agree with what you're saying. I am wondering if they are telling it again to set up some theme. With Superman being arrested and that one scene in the trailer when Pa Kent answered "maybe" to the question if he should have let those kids drown, I'm wondering if the theme of this movie is why the hell should Superman even care to save everyone. I've never been that interested in Superman but with the people involved, I'm willing to give it a fair shot.

Red Son was a great story. I could imagine the outrage that would happen if it was ever made.
 
2013-03-26 12:57:41 PM

farkeruk: !SPOILERS!

Is that when he got stuck trying to think of why Bane didn't just detonate the bomb immediately and instead decided to wait a few weeks? Or why you'd send EVERY cop into an underground area? Or why the arch-villain Bane didn't put a guy at the top of the prison to shoot anyone trying to escape? Or why no-one in a busy cafe in a square in Italy was surprised to see a guy who looked just like that billionaire that recently died.

Seriously, that film had more holes than Swiss cheese.


All Americans look the same to Italians.  That's ok cause I think all Italians are plumbers that look and talk like Mario.
 
2013-03-26 01:02:34 PM
This is NOT a good thing.

On the off-chance that someone, anyone, watching knows someone who works over there with the people making this latest Superman, please read and pass this along:

WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE HIS ORIGIN STORY AGAIN.  EVER.

No one alive in your target audience is unaware of who Superman is and neither are they unaware of his origin, his motivations and his powers.  We are all very very very aware of how and why Superman works the way that he does.

You can simply PICK UP with him well-known, understood and accepted.  THEN, you can bust in with the villains that do NOT revolve around a psychotic real estate agent.

For the love of god and your own financial future, stop retelling us the Superman origin story.  Please.
 
2013-03-26 01:04:04 PM

simplicimus: IMHO what makes Superman boring is that he too many powers. Ditch the xray / heat vision, the breath thing, go back to jumping vs flying. Make the character powerful, but not as powerful as the previous movies.


Yeah there's not a lot of drama in a guy who can't be killed.  But the drama comes from who he can't save.  He's invincible but he's surrounded by vulnerable people.  Instead of having fights with other super powerful people and knowing they won't kill Superman you have to create situations where people around him are in trouble and he can't save everyone.

That said he could certainly be scaled back a bit from all the powers that he's accumulated over the years.  And really I think this movie will be that to an extent.  I doubt we'll see him turning back time, vibrating through walls, making coal into diamonds or any of the more ludicrous things he's done with his powers.  He will of course keep flying, bullet proof, strength and his heat/xray vision.  People just have too much fun using those powers.  And I think audiences really want a flying Superman.  Jumping Superman just wouldn't work anymore.
 
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