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(Mother Jones)   Out of all stupid things Antonin Scalia has said or written about homosexuality and equal rights for gay Americans, here are absolutely the 7 worst   (motherjones.com) divider line 208
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2013-03-26 09:15:51 AM  
How did they narrow it down?
 
2013-03-26 09:18:19 AM  
So, it's pretty unlikely he's going to support either Hollingsworth or Windsor. (It's not news, it's Fark.)
 
2013-03-26 09:18:23 AM  
I'm sure he'll say something stupid again today. Let's not all act shocked.
 
2013-03-26 09:23:59 AM  
All together now - let's pretend that politicians saying stupid things while talking out of their arse is a new thing.
 
2013-03-26 09:24:22 AM  
Shouldnt scolia recuse himself on homosexuality cases?
He is REQUIRED to obey the church and therefore lacks all impartiality.
 
2013-03-26 09:28:20 AM  
Where was "If his dick tastes like sh*t, you mustn't acquit"?  That jurisprudential gem puts the bow on the puppy...
 
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2013-03-26 09:37:32 AM  

namatad: Shouldnt scolia recuse himself on homosexuality cases?
He is REQUIRED to obey the church and therefore lacks all impartiality.


He doesn't even pretend to be impartial.  This this guy is undermining the credibility of the court.  I am starting to wonder if it is intentional.
 
2013-03-26 09:38:29 AM  
I bet Scalia sits on a butt plug all day.
 
2013-03-26 09:48:28 AM  

namatad: Shouldnt scolia recuse himself on homosexuality cases?
He is REQUIRED to obey the church and therefore lacks all impartiality.


What if his impartiality is based on his reading of the law?

Impartiality has something to do with conflict of interest not with having an opinion.

/Scalia's deep thoughts: "If we cannot have moral feelings against or objections to homosexuality, can we have it against anything?"
//He really is a sick puppy.
 
2013-03-26 09:54:00 AM  
My cousin was his Law School roommate. Scalia may be a twat, but he's a very smart man.
 
2013-03-26 09:55:22 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: My cousin was his Law School roommate. Scalia may be a twat, but he's a very smart man.


That makes his moral bankruptcy all the more disgusting. He hasn't been cleverly manipulated into a crazy position. His knowingly and wifully a sack of shiat.
 
2013-03-26 09:56:24 AM  
Scalia is the last of a dying breed.  We know hot that works out in the end.
 
2013-03-26 09:57:48 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: My cousin was his Law School roommate. Scalia may be a twat, but he's a very smart man.


Stupid is as stupid does.

/he's also a bigot
 
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2013-03-26 09:58:28 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: My cousin was his Law School roommate. Scalia may be a twat, but he's a very smart man.


You know who else was a smart asshole?

/Seriously wondering if this guy wants to create a constitutional crisis.
 
2013-03-26 10:02:39 AM  
Tigger: He hasn't been cleverly manipulated into a crazy position. His knowingly and wifully a sack of shiat.
 
2013-03-26 10:08:04 AM  

Cadderpidder: All together now - let's pretend that politicians saying stupid things while talking out of their arse is a new thing.


Yeah... but this politician is a Supreme Court justice
 
2013-03-26 10:08:44 AM  

namatad: Shouldnt scolia recuse himself on homosexuality cases?
He is REQUIRED to obey the church and therefore lacks all impartiality.


Because he's Catholic? Six of the Justices are Catholic.
 
2013-03-26 10:13:15 AM  
Will Nixon's reign never cease?
 
2013-03-26 10:19:23 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Scalia may be a twat, but he's a very smart man.


His arguments on gays in the military, DOMA, abortion rights, and citizens united speak otherwise.
 
2013-03-26 10:19:59 AM  
Scalia will be sucking Satan's thorny cock in hell for all eternity at least
 
2013-03-26 10:29:02 AM  
In an interview with Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow said that Scalia is a troll. He says things to intentionally get a rise out of the other Justices and the attorneys, staff and public who are present during arguments.

He's a troll.
 
2013-03-26 10:31:55 AM  

mrshowrules: Scalia is the last of a dying breed.  We know hot that works out in the end.


Yeah but it's sure taking a goddamn long time to die.
 
2013-03-26 10:38:32 AM  

vernonFL: In an interview with Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow said that Scalia is a troll. He says things to intentionally get a rise out of the other Justices and the attorneys, staff and public who are present during arguments.

He's a troll.


It's not trolling when you have real power. Maybe when he speaks, he's just toying with people. When he votes, he's crushing them.
 
2013-03-26 10:42:26 AM  
It's going to be an interesting day. For those who show up today, wear red. It's time to move past this, and finally deliver on rights to all our citizens. On grounds of religious freedom, on grounds of equality under the law, on grounds of privacy. It is long past time.
 
2013-03-26 10:47:26 AM  

bdub77: mrshowrules: Scalia is the last of a dying breed.  We know hot that works out in the end.

Yeah but it's sure taking a goddamn long time to die.


I never wish it on anyone although I am comforted by the inevitability of it for some people.
 
2013-03-26 10:47:43 AM  
It's trolling when you go into a thread about evolution and say "Jesus did it" in order to get people to give you some attention because your dad didn't hug you enough or whatever the fark your problem is.

Actively voting to create suffering is completely different.
 
2013-03-26 10:49:02 AM  

vernonFL: In an interview with Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow said that Scalia is a troll. He says things to intentionally get a rise out of the other Justices and the attorneys, staff and public who are present during arguments.

He's a troll.


Scalia's an ass, but I articles like this misrepresent his asshattery.

Part of what folks do in the legal profession is draw and play games with analogies.  "If this is legal, why not this?  If this is illegal, why not that?" is a big part of the theory of law.

The actual back and forth brings a microscope to the thinking of a particular justice, and in fact I like the fact that I know what Scalia's thinking, why he thinks it, and how he's likely to rule.  It's a hell of a lot better than silence.  Like that Clarence Thomas douche.
 
2013-03-26 10:50:13 AM  

mrshowrules: PC LOAD LETTER: My cousin was his Law School roommate. Scalia may be a twat, but he's a very smart man.

Stupid is as stupid does.

/he's also a bigot


Oh, come on, you don't even know PC LOAD LETTER's cousin.
 
2013-03-26 10:50:46 AM  

Babwa Wawa: vernonFL: In an interview with Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow said that Scalia is a troll. He says things to intentionally get a rise out of the other Justices and the attorneys, staff and public who are present during arguments.

He's a troll.

Scalia's an ass, but I articles like this misrepresent his asshattery.

Part of what folks do in the legal profession is draw and play games with analogies.  "If this is legal, why not this?  If this is illegal, why not that?" is a big part of the theory of law.

The actual back and forth brings a microscope to the thinking of a particular justice, and in fact I like the fact that I know what Scalia's thinking, why he thinks it, and how he's likely to rule.  It's a hell of a lot better than silence.  Like that Clarence Thomas douche.


In fairness if we want to know how Thomas is going to rule we can just listen to Scalia.
 
2013-03-26 10:56:06 AM  
Reposted for relevance...

Top Ten Reasons to Make Gay Marriage Illegal

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all like many of the principles on which this great country was founded; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Leviticus 19:10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.


Which seems to point to Yahweh being down with welfare and assisting folks in need.

Leviticus 19:14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

Yahweh seems to be down with helping the handicapped too.

Leviticus 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the LORD.

So, apparently, lying and telling tales is not approved of, and that communities should stand together. Not just the pale people or the brown people, but all y'all's people...

Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Guess wishing death and terribleness on your neighbors is out too. How many Democrats or Libertarians or Scientologist you think live in your neighborhoods?

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Gee. Love thy neighbor. Nor on the children of your people. Whuddathunkit?

And, of course, there is something about immigrants that is completely ignored by the rabid Christian nationalists...

Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

Leviticus 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Does that mean we can end this ridiculousness about trying to repeal the 14th Amendment, since Leviticus was down with that sort of thing LONG before the Founding Fathers or Lincoln?

Or if we have to throw out Leviticus as being outdated, does this mean we can toss out the whole hating the gheys thing too?

You can almost hear the gears grinding and popping in the audience...

"Gay Lib. Now interestingly, here is an attempt by a hooked down and kind of persecuted minority to insist on their place rightfully, and their treatment rightfully, without it having anything to do with ethnic or religion or anything! It's really an exciting separate part of liberation. ...Sometimes we, if we're younger, we react to that in a way that we've been schooled. Then you kinda get your chops, and you get things okay and you understand and it's all right to be able to talk about that. Here's what I mean. The word "homosexual," many people who aren't in the position to having to decide this, they wonder:

"Is homosexuality... Is it normal? Is it natural? I ask you. Is it normal or natural? Is it unnatural and abnormal?"

Now those two words seem to revolve around it. Now let's look at those words for what they are...

"Natural." Hey. Means "according to nature." Is it according to nature? Well...probably not in the strictest sense because nature didn't presuppose it. Nature only gave us one set of sexual apparatus. A girl's got something for the guys, a guy's got something for the girls. As it is now, a homosexual is forced to "share" the apparatus that the opposite sex is using on this person. Certainly if nature was in command there'd have two sets of goodies. So nature was not ready. We leaped past nature again in our sociological development, way down the road ahead of nature.

Is it normal? Normal? Well what's "normal?" Well, let's see.. if you're standing in a room, stripped, and it's dark, and you're hugging a person and loving them and rubbing them up and down, and they're rubbing you, and you're rubbing together and suddenly the light goes on and it's the same sex, you've been trained to go

"AAIIIAUUGGGAIIIAEAAHHHHHHHH!"

But if felt okayy.... So maybe it was normal without being natural..."

Yeah. It's more than time to get past this. Using the Bible to back you up on keeping rights from folks, when folks within said faith can't even agree on it, is automatically a violation of folks' right to worship freely. UUs. Methodists. Even some Baptists. Even Catholics. There is no consensus on this issue, and there are plenty of clergy who have stood on the matter of marriage equality.

No special rights. No separate but equal. Folks simply want to be normal, and stop having folks being Nosey Nellies when it comes to what happens in their lives, in their churches, and in their bedrooms. It is time that we stop catering to the whims of some faiths over others. It's that simple. You can't imagine having to explain to your children why Jimmy has two Dads? Not my f*cking problem what you tell your kids, because MY daughter already knows that all God's chill'uns gots to dance, but they don't always do it to the same music, and so long as everyone involved are consenting adults, and are happy, that's just fine. Get over yourselves you pants besh*tting cowards. Get over yourselves.
 
2013-03-26 11:02:26 AM  
The first thing I thought of when reading the article was that "Flagpole Sitta" was an awesome song, and Harvey Danger is underrated.
 
2013-03-26 11:11:08 AM  

Cadderpidder: All together now - let's pretend that politicians saying stupid things while talking out of their arse is a new thing.


While this is true, Antonin Scalia is a sitting Supreme Court Justice, not a politician.

Thus, the frustration.
 
2013-03-26 11:13:06 AM  
Scalia is a bigot? Who knew?
 
2013-03-26 11:17:29 AM  
 "It doesn't say you can't have-you can't have any sexual intimacy. It says you cannot have sexual intimacy with a person of the same sex." Later on in his dissent, Scalia argued that Americans' constitutional right to equal protection under the law wasn't violated by the Texas law for that reason. "Men and women, heterosexuals and homosexuals, are all subject to [Texas'] prohibition of deviate sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex."

Oh ok. Here that, lgbt farkers? Scalia is cool with you unless you do something he thinks is icky.
 
2013-03-26 11:19:01 AM  
"Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in homosexual conduct as partners in their business, as scoutmasters for their children, as teachers in their children's schools, or as boarders in their home,"

Replace 'homosexual conduct' with 'black' and that'd fit in perfectly at Stormfront.

Scalia's dissent in Romer is a long lament over the supposed "special rights" being granted to people on the basis of sexual orientation.

Gays do not want special rights; they want the same rights everyone else has.  Gays do not want to be the only people allowed to enter into homosexual marriages, they'd be happy to allow 2 straight dudes to set up a sham gay marriage too.

 "It doesn't say you can't have-you can't have any sexual intimacy. It says you cannot have sexual intimacy with a person of the same sex."

I seriously cannot wait for the lawyer who aks him when he chose to be straight; when did he try making out with another man and decide that that wasn't for him.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:13 AM  
He's just a strict literalist who believes the Constitution is a dead document.

It's just uncanny how the strict literal dead Constitution falls on the right side of today's modern partisan lines 100% of the time.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:33 AM  
But think about all the stupid things he  hasn'tsaid yet.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:44 AM  
"Men and women, heterosexuals and homosexuals, are all subject to [Texas'] prohibition of deviate sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex."

Rich people are also banned from panhandling and sleeping in ATM vestibules.

Once again, at it's very base concept, if men are allowed to marry women, but women aren't allowed to marry women, that's blatant gender discrimination.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:52 AM  
Wow, after looking at that picture I realized that "ass face" isn't necessarily a pejorative; it can be an accurate description.
 
2013-03-26 11:21:42 AM  

Karac: Scalia's dissent in Romer is a long lament over the supposed "special rights" being granted to people on the basis of sexual orientation.

Gays do not want special rights; they want the same rights everyone else has.  Gays do not want to be the only people allowed to enter into homosexual marriages, they'd be happy to allow 2 straight dudes to set up a sham gay marriage too.


Did you not learn anything from "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry"? No one wants that.
 
2013-03-26 11:21:54 AM  

InmanRoshi: He's just a strict literalist who believes the Constitution is a dead document.

It's just uncanny how the strict literal dead Constitution falls on the right side of today's modern partisan lines 100% of the time.


Ignorance under the guise of intellectualism.

"But he's a super smart duder!"
 
2013-03-26 11:24:01 AM  
A lot of straw in that article.
 
2013-03-26 11:25:13 AM  
Supreme Court Justices say the darndest things.

/With the dowhop diddly doo shlappah clappah maffah whoogly a shing shong shamma lamma
 
2013-03-26 11:25:29 AM  

hubiestubert: Yeah. It's more than time to get past this. Using the Bible to back you up on keeping rights from folks, when folks within said faith can't even agree on it, is automatically a violation of folks' right to worship freely. UUs. Methodists. Even some Baptists. Even Catholics. There is no consensus on this issue, and there are plenty of clergy who have stood on the matter of marriage equality.


And the United Church of Christ. Who had ads banned from television, 'cause promoting love and tolerance is waaaayyyy to controversial, apparently.

I recall going to a gay wedding presided over by the pastors at the church I grew up in when I was five. I hated it, but that was because I was five, and bored out of my goddamn skull....
 
2013-03-26 11:25:48 AM  

abb3w: So, it's pretty unlikely he's going to support either Hollingsworth or Windsor. (It's not news, it's Fark.)


But don't worry.  With some selective quote mining and interpretation, he will be able to find justification.   Remember, it's not his opinion he puts on paper.  He's merely beholden to the original intent of those founders who happen to share his opinion.
 
2013-03-26 11:26:12 AM  
In all fairness, pretty much everything out of Scalia's mouth is stupid. This is the guy who once said that torture doesn't violate the prohibition against "cruel and unusual punishment" because it's not punishment. Some misfiring neurons in the gray mass of goo that passes for a brain in his skull actually managed to flop his big stupid jaw up and down and vibrate his vocal cords and pump his lungs to make those sounds come out of his fat gob. I had a retarded kid as a neighbor for a while who'd stand out in the backyard smacking himself on the head over and over with a tree branch going "HYEEEOOOOOOWWWWWWNGGGG" over and over again, and that kid is a freaking Einstein-level genius compared to Scalia.
 
2013-03-26 11:26:15 AM  
Remind me again why we have a dinosaur no the supreme court?
 
2013-03-26 11:26:33 AM  

JerseyTim: I'm sure he'll say something stupid again today. Let's not all act shocked.


How about if a third of us act shocked, a third of us ACT shocked and a third of us act incredulously smug because we "called it"?
 
2013-03-26 11:27:45 AM  
Meh, typical christian. The vast majority of those twats think the same thing.
 
2013-03-26 11:28:15 AM  

mrshowrules: Scalia is the last of a dying breed.  We know hot that works out in the end.


It's comforting to know that Scalia, and all those other neofascist subhumans of his ilk will end up as dust, as we all will.

What's saddening is that there's are a thousand little kids somewhere who will grow up to be just as bad if not worse.
 
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