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2013-03-26 08:58:05 AM  
Double jeopardy is not a thing there. Apparently the prosecutor wants to try her again, because he failed to convict the first time. Apparently, in Italy, this is legal.

This gives the british tabloid media another chance to trot out their "Foxy Knoxy" tropes, and gives the Italian prosecutor another chance to grandstand locally against "American Tourists" and other such things.

I really hope something prevails to shut this sh*t down for good. The murderer confessed, he named Knox and the boyfriend as accomplices to get a reduced sentence for himself. The whole thing is a sh*tstorm of prosecutorial zeal fanned by tabloid media (who Kircher's uncle worked for as a photographer)

Moral: Never put yourself getting high on youtube, then rent a house in a sh*thole italian provincial town, then smoke more weed while someone's murdered in your rental house.
 
2013-03-26 09:03:04 AM  
Meh, fark Italy.  They rail roaded that girl the first go round, no way I would return there, ever.
 
2013-03-26 09:17:45 AM  
What a bunch of BS.  They HAVE the murderer...there's no way in hell she should ever go back to Europe.
 
2013-03-26 09:19:48 AM  
she is in washington state.  i'd stay there.  you think the US would extradite her if she is convicted?
 
2013-03-26 09:21:50 AM  
wiki.urbandead.com
 
2013-03-26 09:35:07 AM  
If they convict her, the State Department should send them one of her used dildos with "here's some more DNA evidence; extradite THIS" included as a note.
 
2013-03-26 09:39:10 AM  
It truly doesn't matter, she's here, no one's going to extradite her to farking Italy. That prosecutor needs to go back to his passion of demon slaying and devil worship. Oh, and sex orgies for satan.
 
2013-03-26 09:52:08 AM  
www3.pictures.zimbio.com

/Angry fist, ect.
 
2013-03-26 09:58:18 AM  
IT'S DOUBLE ARTICLE MULTIPLE GREENLIGHT DRUNK MODS TUESDAY. YAYYYYYYYYYY!
 
2013-03-26 09:59:11 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: demon slaying and devil worship. Oh, and sex orgies for satan.


Sounds like I need to move to Italy
 
2013-03-26 09:59:43 AM  
If you want foreign governments to stop hounding you, stop murdering people!
 
2013-03-26 10:00:08 AM  
Subby, nobody can see links to your own hard drive.
 
2013-03-26 10:01:04 AM  
Won't her lawyer just block extradition on grounds of double jeopardy?  She'd be wise to never leave the US in case she's tried in absentia and the country she goes to has close ties to Italy.
 
2013-03-26 10:01:42 AM  
WTF is it with the repeats this morning. Two of these articles and two of the Giffords dog/ sea lion all greenlit.
 
2013-03-26 10:01:51 AM  

ChipNASA: IT'S DOUBLE ARTICLE MULTIPLE GREENLIGHT DRUNK MODS TUESDAY. YAYYYYYYYYYY!


Re: concerning pete

/ go home mods; you're drunk
 
2013-03-26 10:03:02 AM  
Pete and Repeat get in a boat...
 
2013-03-26 10:04:50 AM  
FTA: "Italian law cannot compel Knox to return for the new trial,..."


Good.  Stay home, Amanda.
 
2013-03-26 10:05:11 AM  

SlothB77: she is in washington state.  i'd stay there.  you think the US would extradite her if she is convicted?


HIGHLY doubtful. This thing is such a clusterfark already. Here in Seattle, she is pretty universally considered innocent (I see her around every now and again). The people would throw a fit if she got extradited.

I'm sure they'll find her guilty, but not push extradition. That way, the Italians get to save face without having to bother with punishing her.
 
2013-03-26 10:05:20 AM  

WTFDYW: WTF is it with the repeats this morning. Two of these articles and two of the Giffords dog/ sea lion all greenlit.


Is it ground-hog day?
 
2013-03-26 10:05:42 AM  

blatz514: [www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 434x594]

/Angry fist, ect.


Is it the pock marks or the look of crazy in her eyes?

/never stick it in crazy
 
2013-03-26 10:05:55 AM  
Another double article.  I think this site has been HACKED!!!
 
2013-03-26 10:06:08 AM  
"Nobody gives a shiat about your cry cry face"
 
2013-03-26 10:06:17 AM  

tillerman35: Won't her lawyer just block extradition on grounds of double jeopardy?  She'd be wise to never leave the US in case she's tried in absentia and the country she goes to has close ties to Italy.



The chance of a US extradition is incredibly remote.

The chance of extradition from another EU country is high.

(and it isn't double jeopardy even though that doesn't mean much in Italian law: the aquittal was overturned by the Supreme Court. It's not just "let's have another trial!")
 
2013-03-26 10:08:41 AM  

Moose23: Another double article.  I think this site has been HACKED!!!


Or it's being run by HACKS!  I don't know.
 
2013-03-26 10:09:56 AM  

miss diminutive: WTFDYW: WTF is it with the repeats this morning. Two of these articles and two of the Giffords dog/ sea lion all greenlit.

Is it ground-hog day?


I got YOU babe!
 
2013-03-26 10:09:59 AM  

Magnanimous_J: SlothB77: she is in washington state.  i'd stay there.  you think the US would extradite her if she is convicted?

HIGHLY doubtful. This thing is such a clusterfark already. Here in Seattle, she is pretty universally considered innocent (I see her around every now and again). The people would throw a fit if she got extradited.

I'm sure they'll find her guilty, but not push extradition. That way, the Italians get to save face without having to bother with punishing her.


whew!!  at least they're not wasting taxpayer dollars!!
 
2013-03-26 10:10:02 AM  

Magnanimous_J: I'm sure they'll find her guilty, but not push extradition. That way, the Italians get to save face without having to bother with punishing her.



This is exactly what will happen.  They can convict to save face in light of the shiat-ton of money a broke country spent on railroading her AND pull the "she'd be in jail but the big, bad US won't send her here" card.

It's WIN-WIN for Italy
 
2013-03-26 10:10:49 AM  
There are plenty of countries that would not extradite her.She has nothing to worry about.
 
2013-03-26 10:11:04 AM  

tillerman35: Won't her lawyer just block extradition on grounds of double jeopardy?  She'd be wise to never leave the US in case she's tried in absentia and the country she goes to has close ties to Italy.


That is assuming that Italy has double jeopardy laws, and assuming that if they don't, they recognize that U.S. citizens are protected by U.S. law while in Italy, which it can say no to.

When it comes to extradition, the U.S. can simply say "No, you tried her on this evidence, your court system ruled that there was the wrong DNA, no murder weapon, no enough evidence and no motive.  Either show us your new evidence against our U.S. citizen or kindly fark off."
 
2013-03-26 10:12:26 AM  

Magnanimous_J: (I see her around every now and again)


how does she look in person?  Same as the pictures?
 
2013-03-26 10:13:49 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Magnanimous_J: I'm sure they'll find her guilty, but not push extradition. That way, the Italians get to save face without having to bother with punishing her.


This is exactly what will happen.  They can convict to save face in light of the shiat-ton of money a broke country spent on railroading her AND pull the "she'd be in jail but the big, bad US won't send her here" card.

It's WIN-WIN for Italy



Apart from there are two accused here. He doesn't have the option of not turning up, because he's Italian.

So theoretically there might be the case where they are both found guilty, and he is imprisoned, and she essentially becomes a criminal hiding out in the US.
 
2013-03-26 10:13:55 AM  

Bungles: ti(and it isn't double jeopardy even though that doesn't mean much in Italian law: the aquittal was overturned by the Supreme Court. It's not just "let's have another trial!")


It kinda is.  In the US the onus is on the State to prove guilt, if they fark up something and the jury acquits, that's just tough titties unless they can come up with entirely new evidence or they can prove the defense did something illegal such as hiding evidence.

Another trial because the State farked something up is wrong.
 
2013-03-26 10:14:37 AM  
If Italy can try her more than once, then it's only fair that the story gets greenlit here more than once.
 
2013-03-26 10:15:22 AM  
Bungles:  (and it isn't double jeopardy even though that doesn't mean much in Italian law: the aquittal was overturned by the Supreme Court. It's not just "let's have another trial!")

In America, double jeopardy protects a person from having their acquittal appealed by the prosecutors to a higher court.  I'm sure there are some very limited exceptions to that, but as a general rule an acquittal is an acquittal.
 
2013-03-26 10:15:38 AM  

85blue: There are plenty of countries that would not extradite her.She has nothing to worry about.



Not really. These things tend to be a matter of extradition law between individual countries, rather than what they "wish" to do in specific cases.

And outside the US, she is considered with deep suspicion anyway.
 
2013-03-26 10:15:52 AM  

Bungles: DoBeDoBeDo: Magnanimous_J: I'm sure they'll find her guilty, but not push extradition. That way, the Italians get to save face without having to bother with punishing her.


This is exactly what will happen.  They can convict to save face in light of the shiat-ton of money a broke country spent on railroading her AND pull the "she'd be in jail but the big, bad US won't send her here" card.

It's WIN-WIN for Italy


Apart from there are two accused here. He doesn't have the option of not turning up, because he's Italian.

So theoretically there might be the case where they are both found guilty, and he is imprisoned, and she essentially becomes a criminal hiding out in the US.


Okay and the downside for the Italian state is?   This is the state deciding that it farked up and granting itself another attempt to try someone.  There is no downside for them.
 
2013-03-26 10:16:04 AM  

basemetal: Meh, fark Italy.  They rail roaded that girl the first go round, no way I would return there, ever.


If I had the power (i.e. I believe the State Department does this), I'd definitely publish a travel advisory telling US citizens to not visit Italy.

See how they like losing tourist dollars.
 
2013-03-26 10:17:41 AM  
This is the same country that threw scientists in jail for manslaughter because they failed to predict an earthquake that killed 309 people.
 
2013-03-26 10:18:22 AM  
Italians is crazy.
 
2013-03-26 10:19:21 AM  

Douchie McBaggus: This is the same country that threw scientists in jail for manslaughter because they failed to predict an earthquake that killed 309 people.



That isn't even vaguely what happened.
 
2013-03-26 10:19:33 AM  
You think the courts are bad?

Italy has a Mussolini in parliament.

upload.wikimedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandra_Mussolini

In 2006 she responded to claims by the Italian M.P. candidate that she was a 'fascist' with the line "Meglio fascista che frocio" ("It is better to be a fascist than a fa**ot").
 
2013-03-26 10:20:13 AM  

xanadian: basemetal: Meh, fark Italy.  They rail roaded that girl the first go round, no way I would return there, ever.

If I had the power (i.e. I believe the State Department does this), I'd definitely publish a travel advisory telling US citizens to not visit Italy.

See how they like losing tourist dollars.


Yep, screw em.
 
2013-03-26 10:22:41 AM  

basemetal: Meh, fark Italy.  They rail roaded that girl the first go round, no way I would return there, ever.


Ever considered that this may be their goal?
 
2013-03-26 10:22:42 AM  

Bungles: 85blue: There are plenty of countries that would not extradite her.She has nothing to worry about.


Not really. These things tend to be a matter of extradition law between individual countries, rather than what they "wish" to do in specific cases.

And outside the US, she is considered with deep suspicion anyway.


www.dialmurder.com
Remember me and how I hop scotched the globe until I was convicted of a murder in Peru?

I know he is not American but a clear example of that.
 
2013-03-26 10:23:46 AM  
This type of injustice happens to Americans in America every day. The only reason we care is that:

a) It's happening to a pretty girl in a foreign land.
 
2013-03-26 10:24:06 AM  

Douchie McBaggus: This is the same country that threw scientists in jail for manslaughter because they failed to predict an earthquake that killed 309 people.


To be fair, they actually issued a statement reassuring people that there was little danger.

Which is rather different.

The seven defendants, who belonged to the National Commission for the Forecast and Prevention of Major Risks, were accused of offering an unjustifiably optimistic assessment to the local population a week before the disaster. By then, the area had been hit by some 400 tremors over a period of four months and a local researcher had warned of the risk of a major earthquake, largely on the basis of abnormal radon emissions.

But after an extraordinary meeting of the commission in L'Aquila, one of the experts told a press conference that the situation was "normal" and even "favourable" because potentially destructive energy was being released through the tremors. The prosecution, which brought charges of multiple manslaughter, maintained that lives could have been saved had people not been persuaded by the assurances to remain in the area.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/22/italian-scientists-jaile d- earthquake-aquila
 
2013-03-26 10:27:15 AM  
I would love Italy to pull a Kim Dotcom on her. See how the US likes it.
 
2013-03-26 10:28:45 AM  
Hold Trial.
Get Conviction in absentia
Declare victory
/It's the right thing to do.
//It's done quite often as well.
 
2013-03-26 10:31:25 AM  
If she has to do this again then she should hire a new lawyer. Someone who won't stop until the truth is revealed.

My recommendation?

i3.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-26 10:32:57 AM  

Great Janitor: ... they recognize that U.S. citizens are protected by U.S. law while in Italy,


They're not.

which it can say no to.

Because the answer it not "yes."
 
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