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2013-03-26 04:44:48 PM

FuturePastNow: In '93 or thereabouts my dad bought our first real computer, an Acer 486 SX/25 with 4MB of RAM and a 140ish MB drive.

Within a year, he spent $200 doubling the RAM to 8MB so Doom and SimCity 2000 would run better.


wow, I did the same thing for the same reasons (plus to play Master of Magic) around the same time during my first year of grad school
 
2013-03-26 04:58:37 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Ed Grubermann: Quantum Apostrophe: Smidge204: Wow. I didn't think you'd even show up in this thread, let alone take the bait. Rest assured this quote will haunt you at every opportunity.

Haunted by truth and reality. How ever will I cope. Tell me, do you see any lightspeed 747s around you?

[www.trilobite.org image 400x220]
Pathetic troll is pathetic.

Legitimate question. You nuts think that because electronics got better that everything got better by the same amount. So, how fast do 747s fly compared to the first one from 1969?


No we don't.  And we've told you so often enough that you'd think that fact would pierce that skull of yours. You really do need professional help. You obsession is unhealthy.
 
2013-03-26 05:03:16 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Ed Grubermann: Quantum Apostrophe: Smidge204: Wow. I didn't think you'd even show up in this thread, let alone take the bait. Rest assured this quote will haunt you at every opportunity.

Haunted by truth and reality. How ever will I cope. Tell me, do you see any lightspeed 747s around you?

[www.trilobite.org image 400x220]
Pathetic troll is pathetic.

Legitimate question. You nuts think that because electronics got better that everything got better by the same amount. So, how fast do 747s fly compared to the first one from 1969?


How fast does the same design fly now as compared to into the past? I don't think you thought your question all the way through,
 
2013-03-26 05:17:56 PM
My first was a 386sx/33 w. 750k ram and 60mb hd although I think it was around 91/92 timeframe.  It ran DR DOS under Win 3.1.

CSB
Bought Ultima 7 to play on it but didn't look at the requirements which was 486dx2 and 2mb ram and of course being 14 no money so I configured the hell out of it stripped everything nonessential and made a custom boot disk to run it.  It ran with no problems but had an issue where the keys in your pack would disappear randomly so I called up Origin and the tech called bullshiat on my computer stats but would send a patch to fix the issue anyways.  A few hours later someone from the company called me back and I spent about 3 hours describing what I did to get the game to run and offered me a job which i then told him I was 14 so couldn't really take it.  About 2 weeks later I got a big box in the mail from them with a lot of swag and a bunch of games along with a few betas (one was Descent which was my first beta).

/surprisingly didn't give a shiat about computers then as I only played with them when it was raining and couldn't skate
//yep work in IT now lol
 
2013-03-26 05:26:53 PM
My first pc in 1993 was a:

8088
640K ram
20 meg hd
5.25 floppy
3.5 floppy
2400 baud modem
and a 16 color monitor of which the video only supported 4 colors.
Dot matrix printer

I only paid 150 bucks for it but at the time it ran a good word processor which let me write my papers and would play some rudimentary games. It also let me get on the bbs and telnet into a couple of MUDs. I played on toril and duris

By 95 I was up to a 486/66 with proper color and a 14.4 modem. That is when I discovered what the internet was for.
 
2013-03-26 05:33:02 PM

animal900: A nearly 2GB hard drive in 1993? Sure that wasn't 768MB?


I'm quite sure. It was a Micropolis Half-Height 5400rpm SCSI2 drive. As I recall, I paid about $800 for it and thought I was getting a fantastically good deal. A "huge" IDE drive at that point was probably 420MB. I thought it would be unfillable, but then I discovered alt.binaries.* and it was full by the summer of 1994. I believe I still have that drive. Last time I checked it, maybe five years ago, it still worked.
 
2013-03-26 06:07:30 PM
I remember my first machine 266mhz.  My parents where too cheap to buy me a computer growing up so I saved and got my first one at about 14.  I think I had Ceasar as my first pc game.  I remember when  I bought my first 3d Accelerator so I could play Star Wars the Phantom Menace.  I saw the blocky characters and thought that graphics could never get more perfect than that.
 
2013-03-26 06:34:39 PM
My first machine was a laptop, a Toshiba Satalite 486DX2/50 with 4 megs of ram and 250MB HDD, and a 9" monochrome LCD. I later upgraded to 8MB of ram and a 14.4kbps PCMCIA modem(with built in retractable phone jack!).
 
2013-03-26 06:51:51 PM
It's amazing how far computers have come in 20 years:

In 1992, my grandparents bought a:
- 386DX/33 Desktop (with Turbo button)
- 4MB RAM
- 100MB HDD
- VGA graphics
- No sound card
- No CD-ROM
- No modem
- MS-DOS 5.0/Windows 3.1
for about ~$1500-2000 (I'm not sure of the exact cost, I was 11 at the time)

Last week, I bought:
- Core i7 Quad-Core 2.4Ghz notebook
- 12GB RAM
- 1TB HDD
- Blu-ray
- Windows 8
for $800

In other words, I was able to buy a portable computer that would run circles around what was available in 1992 for 1/2 the price.
 
2013-03-26 06:53:37 PM
My first computer was an IBM Personal Computer 5150 that really was the 'family' computer but in reality after only a couple of months, it became mine as the rest of the family lost all interest in it. It also planted the seed that grew into a major interest and then all-consuming passion for technology.

After 3-4 years, it was replaced by a newer IBM and my parents put this in the garage so it would go out with the garbage the next morning.

oldcomputers.net


in 2003, I returned home to help a friend of the family do some spring cleaning and happened to find this stuffed in a corner of the garage with some very old playboys and a faded mountain dew case. \ The family friend said I should ask my folks about it, so I did and my mother explained she knew how much I loved that first computer and had a feeling that she should hang on to it for me. Maybe one day I would like to have my first computer back in my hands. It was put into the family friend's garage when my parents did some remodeling and it was forgotten about.

Sure it was completely obsolete and it wouldn't even power up (let alone boot) but it brought back many memories. So, I decided I was going to fix it. A friend of mine who restored cars also was a major computer nut. We did some computer case modding and we had been kicking around the idea of a computer case mod based on a car. The night after I found my old PC, I was watching cable TV and caught the movie "Christine" while surfing the channels. The next day I stopped over to his house and we came up with this case mod idea.

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

Work log here if you are interested.
I still have this case and a new Core i7 "engine" is going to be dropped inside her in the next couple of months.
 
2013-03-26 07:54:54 PM
Amiga 500 - 1MB Chip Ram, 3.5MB Fast Ram.  Think that was the year I upgraded to a 1GB SCSI drive.  Took 14 or 15 seconds from power on to fully useable workbench.

BMR68:

Please thank your brother for me, I remember using Terminus to access the local Freenet to get onto my favorite M.U.D. Death's Domain.


Most Amiga guys were abandoning it by '93. My oldest brother wrote Terminus for Amiga and still has the emails of all the broken hearted Amiga fan-boys when he abandoned the platform.
 
2013-03-26 07:59:36 PM

flaminio: Don't you even think about stepping on my lawn.

[www.vintage-computer.com image 400x252]


Don't  you even think about stepping on  my lawn!
www.willegal.net
 
2013-03-26 08:34:19 PM
I was a Commodork starting with the Vic-20 in '82.  By the time 1993 rolled around I was still rocking my Amiga 2000HD with the 52MB SCSI drive and far better games than any PC owner could hope for.  My Vic-20, C64 and A2000HD and all associated hardware still work just fine.
 
2013-03-26 08:52:43 PM
: Smith Corona/Acer 286 with a color 12" screen and 2mb ram and DOS with a 9600 baud modem.

2nd: Hewlett Packard 486/DX my dad go for free by signing up for Prodigy for 12 months.
 
2013-03-26 09:10:19 PM

dustman81: It's amazing how far computers have come in 20 years:

In 1992, my grandparents bought a:
- 386DX/33 Desktop (with Turbo button)
- 4MB RAM
- 100MB HDD
- VGA graphics
- No sound card
- No CD-ROM
- No modem
- MS-DOS 5.0/Windows 3.1
for about ~$1500-2000 (I'm not sure of the exact cost, I was 11 at the time)

Last week, I bought:
- Core i7 Quad-Core 2.4Ghz notebook
- 12GB RAM
- 1TB HDD
- Blu-ray
- Windows 8
for $800

In other words, I was able to buy a portable computer that would run circles around what was available in 1992 for 1/2 the price.


What's more amusing is that I'm fairly sure that computer you just bought would kick the ass of the one I'm typing on right now, which I bought in 2011 for nearly 1k. It's only an i5, runs W7, has 8GB RAM, came with 500GB of storage which I upgraded to half of that in SSD, standard DVD, and with 1GB independent vid RAM on a crap ATI chipset. It would probably still be fine for my needs if my now ex-wife didn't purposefully spill cranberry juice on the thing. I can't believe I saved it. I now have to run it with an external keyboard, mouse and the DVD drive is toast. Lots of other random glitches since then too, such as the LCD turning blue at times.

/Wish I had 800 bucks that wasn't going for rent...
 
2013-03-26 09:51:44 PM
My first computer was a ten-year-old Apple IIe that my school first let the gifted program use and then sold to my folks when they upgraded to Windows. How I loved it!

Of course, in 1993, I was seven years old, so even the IIe felt like some amazing awesomeness. I used to run floppy-disk programs like Rocky's Boots and The Children's Writing and Publishing Center on it, and eventually taught myself to program a little. I printed out my homework on a dot-matrix printer for ages, and while the family had a better computer that I got to use a lot, the IIe was mine and therefore special. Then a few years later, my mom and dad saw the movie 'Hackers' with Angelina Jolie, assumed that was the sort of thing I was becoming capable of, and helped me fund the building of a much, much better machine.

My mother eventually gave my old Apple friend to my little cousin sometime in the late Nineties, thinking the kid would get into tech-geekery like I had and stop being a screwup, but cousin hated how old and slow it was and, I think, traded it for drugs in high school.

It's a shame. I'd love to have that old computer back, if only to use its' case for future kid's first PC.
 
2013-03-26 09:57:18 PM

dustman81: In other words, I was able to buy a portable computer that would run circles around what was available in 1992 for 1/2 the price.


More like a third the price, adjusting for inflation.
 
2013-03-26 11:31:28 PM
I was on a Mac LCIII.

OVer time, i had the ram upgraded to 20GB, got an external CD rom drive (which neede you to put the disc into a holder/cassette thing first), and got a SyQuest drive to use for storage needs


www.applerescueofdenver.com


www.piezography.com
 
2013-03-26 11:42:17 PM

wildcardjack: [toastytech.com image 765x533]


Fark never dissapoints.
 
2013-03-27 12:44:02 AM
Well, that led down the rabbit hole.

I can remember having a TI99 in the house when I was growing up.  I'm not sure my parents actually owned any games for the thing, or even let me actually do anything with it, but I seem to recall playing with it a lot.  I think this was right around the time that we got a rotating TV antenna, which was big news in the coasterdigi household.

Then we upgraded to a blazing fast 286 from Laser.  ...with a math co-processor.  Hot.

Kids today.  No idea what they've got.  Sheesh.

/CSB
//get off my lawn
 
2013-03-27 02:59:59 AM

DarwiOdrade: flaminio: Don't you even think about stepping on my lawn.

[www.vintage-computer.com image 400x252]

Don't  you even think about stepping on  my lawn!
[www.willegal.net image 500x428]


Yeah, that was my lawn too.  That sucker had stunningly excellent longevity.  I actually only got rid of it a couple of years ago, but still have a bunch of the 5.25" floppies for some reason.

IIRC, around '93 I was using an Amiga still, but had some cobbled together PC sitting around too.  The only thing of note that PC had in it was a belt driven hard drive by Carter or something like that.  I can't remember any longer.  However, whomever thought that a belt drive was a good idea was the dumbest motherfarker on Earth at the time.
 
2013-03-27 03:28:51 AM
486 dx266 if I remember right

Dad let me get Doom at that was that. He also let us get a dial up modem as even our small town got a local ISP. Figured out internet porn and was pretty popular with friends, even if it took forever to download. Upgraded to cable internet when it came around, Napster etc. Got a CD burner with my own cash from working through high school, but having a write go wrong sucked, since that ended up an expensive coaster.
 
2013-03-27 03:29:40 AM
And if anyone remembers Gemstone III, thats how I explain to everyone how I can type so fast, when they ask. But no one ever knows what I am talking about.
 
2013-03-27 04:25:35 AM

Smidge204: This "computer" thing is an interesting fad. I don't think it'll catch on, though. There's no reason for anyone to have a computer in their home.

=Smidge=


Not now maybe. But wait til they're twice as powerful and 1,000 times as large. Even some of the poorer kings of Europe will want those.
 
2013-03-27 07:28:29 AM

machodonkeywrestler: How fast does the same design fly now as compared to into the past? I don't think you thought your question all the way through,


Ah but the first thing the nuts point out is that it's not the same design. So even *better* technology can't go much faster than what we have now. So how do the Space Nutters plan on colonizing the universe? Space 747s?
 
2013-03-27 08:22:22 AM
EyeForgot
That actually is a pretty CSB.

Bschott007
That thing is just awesome.
 
2013-03-27 03:16:35 PM
Man.. I'm old.  I used to love watching Computer Chronicles!  I actually watched this episode in 1993.
 
2013-03-27 08:33:15 PM
funk_soul_bubby:

Bschott007
That thing is just awesome.


Thanks Funk Soul Bubby
 
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