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(AZCentral)   Gabby Gifford's husband pulls a mauling dog off a baby sea lion at a California beach. Despite his heroic efforts, the sea lion still died. This never would have happened if he had been armed   ( azcentral.com) divider line
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2013-03-26 10:29:56 AM  

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seals in newport beach. hte babies had just been "whelped" (fancy nautical marine biologist term i use) a few days earlier, according to the boat tour dudes. the second one, they stick their flippers in the air to help regulate their temperature while waiting to jump onto the red buot.

we also saw dolphins. few weeks earlier, the boat tour guys said they saw a pod of orcas hunting and one time, a shark snapped up a seal.

/csb
 
2013-03-26 10:30:12 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: WTFDYW: THe dog WAS on a leash. RTFA next time.

 the owners were completely irresponsible since they could not control a dog that is on a leash.
They should keep that dog at home until they know how to control it.

It was a seal this time, next time it could be a baby.


A baby would be even more tender
 
2013-03-26 10:30:27 AM  

Chach: Archimedes' Principal: It's not "a mauling dog", it was Gifford's daughter's mauling dog, subby.

Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.

If it had been Scott Walker's dog I'm sure it would read something like "The dog, which was trained by Walker, possibly to kill ... "


Go on. Tell me more about this. It sounds like you may be on to something.
 
2013-03-26 10:31:17 AM  

DragonIV: Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner


Yep.  Here in the boonies, dogs that are caught chasing deer and elk end up dead.  Pretty much a rule that if your dog chases game and you can't control them, they will be shot.  That kind of stuff is not tolerated at all here.
 
2013-03-26 10:32:13 AM  

rickythepenguin: we also saw dolphins. few weeks earlier, the boat tour guys said they saw a pod of orcas hunting and one time, a shark snapped up a seal.


WE NEED TO OUTLAW SHARKS!!1!1!!
 
2013-03-26 10:32:58 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: you think seals are cuddly?  sick.  If he killed a bald eagle, or even a slightly balding eagle, you wouldn't be so flippant about this irresponsibility.


This town would like a word with you. Also, a dog fighting a bald eagle would rank pretty high on the "this is awesome enough to overcome the revulsion brought on by watching animals kill each other" list.
 
2013-03-26 10:33:41 AM  

Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.


Good thing this wasn't an American Bulldog, or you'd look really foolish right now.
 
2013-03-26 10:34:49 AM  

HeadLever: DragonIV: Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner

Yep.  Here in the boonies, dogs that are caught chasing deer and elk end up dead.  Pretty much a rule that if your dog chases game and you can't control them, they will be shot.  That kind of stuff is not tolerated at all here.


Sounds like an advanced civilization you have there. Are wimmen shot if they get too far from the kitchen?
 
2013-03-26 10:36:15 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.


He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/12/mark-kelly-buys-ar-15-assa ul t-weapon-handgun/
Kelly said he went to the Tucson gun store recently to buy a .45 caliber handgun, which he plans to keep.
 
2013-03-26 10:36:49 AM  
Administrator #102's head pounded in time with the blinking amber light on her console. Man, that Washington rye could be some terrible stuff!

Leaning both elbows on the console edge, she cradled her face in her palms. That farking Moderator #17 would be at the other end of that blinking yellow light. He would have his tiny little balls sweating with outrage that Administrator #102 would have greened two stories about the same thing. He would biatch about how many Notify Moderator messages were coming in and he would moan about how many Farkbacks were stacking up. He would go on and on about how he would make a better Administrator than her and how that sort of duplicate green would NEVER happen on his watch.

Well, Moderator #17 could just take a flying fark at a rolling donut.

Administrator #102 adjusted her headset, lit a smoke with the sterling silver squirrel nut lighter, and blew a big cloud of smoke out into the dark room before opening the circuit.

"Go ahead, Mod seventeen" she intoned evenly.

"Are you aware that you have two greens on the same story on the main page again? I mean, when you screw up the video tab, that's one thing, but the main page for God's sake!" Christ, the whine in that voice made Administrator #102's fists ball up without her even realizing.

"Yeah. I know" she replied.

"Well what are you going to do about it?"

"Not a farking thing. They both get a full ride."

There was silence. Moderator #17 was trying to think of something to say to that. When it finally came, his response could not have been worse.

"The boss is going to hear about this."

Administrator #102 smiled in the darkness. She quickly keyed up Drew Curtis'  itinerary for the day before answering.

"The boss," she began coolly, "is in LA today visiting Vincent_BlackShadow. After that he's headed down to San Diego to start brewing some beer with that Wheaton guy. Why don't you go ahead and give him a call in the middle of that. I'm sure he love to hear from you, because right now I'm the boss, you got that?" She snapped off the comm circuit and took another drag off her cigarette.

Moderator #17 could just take a flying fark at a rolling donut.
 
2013-03-26 10:38:16 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND: That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.

He's on a leash in the video.

Correction: He was not being led by the leash (in my unsupported opinion) when he ran over and attacked the seal.


The leash doesn't appear to be broken because Mark Kelley leads the dog away with it. The woman had more dog than she could control and may not have been holding the leash. American bulldogs are oftentimes used for hog hunting because they will aggressively pursue and doggedly hold a feral hog. They tend to be good natured with people and people forget that they are hunters. As someone else mentioned "drop it" is a really important command for all dogs particularly the bully breeds.

/ My boxer 'dropped' her first successful squirrel kill yesterday
// Good dog
/// Kill the rest of the tree rats
 
2013-03-26 10:38:53 AM  

j__z: No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.


7lbs
 
2013-03-26 10:38:57 AM  
HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.
 
2013-03-26 10:39:27 AM  

cygnusx13: Sounds like an advanced civilization you have there.


If you can't keep control of your dog, you won't have one for very long.  Not a question about civilization, but protecting big game herds during the winter.  Undue stress and exertion during the winter months is bad news for deer and elk here.

And them wimmen folks are just as likely to be the ones do'n the shootn'.
 
2013-03-26 10:41:14 AM  

Office Ninja: WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.

He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/12/mark-kelly-buys-ar-15-assa ul t-weapon-handgun/
Kelly said he went to the Tucson gun store recently to buy a .45 caliber handgun, which he plans to keep.


What's hilarious is that Mark Kelly failed the background check. No self-defense for you! Now you get to live the way you want everyone else to live.

/in case that link is stripped out, google "Mark Kelly AR15 rescinded"
 
2013-03-26 10:43:39 AM  
Old_Chief_Scott

That was beutiful. Very artful.
 
2013-03-26 10:44:10 AM  

Chach: Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.


Awwww, so sorry about the owie on your butt.
 
2013-03-26 10:44:28 AM  
Good dog.  Sea lions are nasty bastards.  That's one less asshole-of-the-sea
 
2013-03-26 10:48:46 AM  

spickus: j__z: No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.

7lbs


How about "You may purchase a dog capable of 10 lbs but it must be limited to no more than 7 lbs."
 
2013-03-26 10:52:55 AM  

Chach: Archimedes' Principal: It's not "a mauling dog", it was Gifford's daughter's mauling dog, subby.

Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.

If it had been Scott Walker's dog I'm sure it would read something like "The dog, which was trained by Walker, possibly to kill ... "


To be fair, Walker is an asshole.
 
2013-03-26 10:53:20 AM  

ows: pit bulls like to attack things that move? i didn't know that.

lifeless eyes


Shhh . . . it's a "mauling dog".
 
2013-03-26 10:54:30 AM  

Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.


Yep, and then there's this:

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When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:08 AM  

Office Ninja: How about "You may purchase a dog capable of 10 lbs but it must be limited to no more than 7 lbs."



imageshack.us

You tell him he's going on a diet.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:23 AM  

Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.


You haven't dealt with American Bulldogs at all. Their pain tolerance is unreal. Under water I will grant you no animal likes drowning, but you could hit that dog with your fist as hard as you want and it would likely not even faze it. Add to that the risk of redirection. Training would have been the key here. These are not a dog you want to try to beat into submission, it will not end well for you,it will not end well for the dog.

Just as a heads up these dogs were raised to deal with feral hogs. A human kicking or punching it is just going to annoy it.
 
2013-03-26 10:59:42 AM  

cptrios: Archimedes' Principal: I assume the dog wasn't on a leash when it attacked? WTF !!!

With this video as proof, there should be charges brought on the owner of the dog.

Just wait, it will all get swept under the rug since Mom was a Congressperson and Daddy's an astronaut.

A. The dog was on a leash and apparently either broke it or pulled free of whoever was holding it.
B. The dog attacked a wild animal that happened to be on a beach. It's no different than your dog killing a squirrel or your cat killing a mouse - it just happens to have been a cuddlier animal.



- California sea lions, like all marine mammals, are protected under the MMPA.

The dog owner is totally responsible for damage done to sea lion. If the dog was on a leash, then she had no real control over the dog if it was able to attack the sea lion.

Not so CSB:  While visiting Hawaii during 1980, I watched a 'Pit Bull' husk a coconut that had fallen from a tree. It took him less than 5 minutes. The same dog had previously attacked and killed a neighbor's dog.
 
2013-03-26 11:04:14 AM  

Devlik: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.


...Just as a heads up these dogs were raised to deal with feral hogs. A human kicking or punching it is just going to annoy it.


How would the dog feel about a human stabbing or poking its eyeball or ear canal with a stick ?
 
2013-03-26 11:05:22 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

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When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


Well, at least she is exercising trigger control, unlike that walking corpse Feinstein.
 
2013-03-26 11:07:53 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Administrator #102's head pounded in time with the blinking amber light on her console. Man, that Washington rye could be some terrible stuff!

Leaning both elbows on the console edge, she cradled her face in her palms. That farking Moderator #17 would be at the other end of that blinking yellow light. He would have his tiny little balls sweating with outrage that Administrator #102 would have greened two stories about the same thing. He would biatch about how many Notify Moderator messages were coming in and he would moan about how many Farkbacks were stacking up. He would go on and on about how he would make a better Administrator than her and how that sort of duplicate green would NEVER happen on his watch.

Well, Moderator #17 could just take a flying fark at a rolling donut.

Administrator #102 adjusted her headset, lit a smoke with the sterling silver squirrel nut lighter, and blew a big cloud of smoke out into the dark room before opening the circuit.

"Go ahead, Mod seventeen" she intoned evenly.

"Are you aware that you have two greens on the same story on the main page again? I mean, when you screw up the video tab, that's one thing, but the main page for God's sake!" Christ, the whine in that voice made Administrator #102's fists ball up without her even realizing.

"Yeah. I know" she replied.

"Well what are you going to do about it?"

"Not a farking thing. They both get a full ride."

There was silence. Moderator #17 was trying to think of something to say to that. When it finally came, his response could not have been worse.

"The boss is going to hear about this."

Administrator #102 smiled in the darkness. She quickly keyed up Drew Curtis'  itinerary for the day before answering.

"The boss," she began coolly, "is in LA today visiting Vincent_BlackShadow. After that he's headed down to San Diego to start brewing some beer with that Wheaton guy. Why don't you go ahead and give him a call in the middle of that. I'm sure he love to hear from you, becaus ...


Yeah, I'll give you chops on this one as well....moar!
 
2013-03-26 11:08:59 AM  

Devlik: You haven't dealt with American Bulldogs at all.


You are correct - I have not dealt with them much at all.  Never tried to stop one from attacking another animal, that is for sure.  I've dealt with an Akita trying to rip the ear off of another dog, but never had to deal with a dog of my own attacking something else.

I do know that all dogs like to breathe though.  And yes, training is key, but obviously not all dog owners are that responsible.  When training breaks down (or doesn't exist), you should at the very least be capable of restraining your dog physically.  If not, you should have a smaller dog, or no dog at all.
 
2013-03-26 11:09:15 AM  

iheartscotch: Too bad he didn't keep that rifle he bought, huh? He coulda saved that poor seal.

/ coulda, woulda, shoulda


Actually, the shop terminated the sale because the manager had doubts about his intentions.
 
2013-03-26 11:10:51 AM  

dudemanbro: Their family dog kills a baby sea lion and now he's a hero???


Hahaha.

You sir get...IT.
 
2013-03-26 11:14:23 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: According to Biden, Giffords was mortally wounded in that attack.  So I am not surprise that the widow would not carry a gun or even own a gun.


The problem was that Giffords fired both barrels of her double barreled shotgun off as a warning.  At that point, someone was left unarmed.  What good advice Big Joe gives.
 
2013-03-26 11:15:55 AM  

Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.


Just grab it by the neck with a little pressure and the dog will immediately go into prone position.  It's science, since they don't want their throat ripped out.
 
2013-03-26 11:18:30 AM  
This story sums up so much of what is wrong with the mass media, and America's inability to get the whole story unless you're cruising around obscure threads in a snarky news aggregator site.

1. The "hero" came to the party late.
2. A well-intentioned woman couldn't control a dog.
3. The dog in question was apparently trained poorly.
4. Said dog was owned by the well-intentioned woman.
5. The "hero" is the father of the dog owner.
6. The media completely misses the point about poor pet ownership and concocts a story.
7. The coverage is invasive to start with, let alone slanted.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:56 AM  
Lucky this was a "celebrity's dog" else there'd be charges and huge fines for disrupting the fat little creatures.
 
2013-03-26 11:21:10 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.


What we have here is a crusader.
 encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-26 11:25:25 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

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When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


This just in: sometimes people's opinions change.  This is especially true when traumatic events happen to them.
 
2013-03-26 11:26:32 AM  

cygnusx13: HeadLever: DragonIV: Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner

Yep.  Here in the boonies, dogs that are caught chasing deer and elk end up dead.  Pretty much a rule that if your dog chases game and you can't control them, they will be shot.  That kind of stuff is not tolerated at all here.

Sounds like an advanced civilization you have there. Are wimmen shot if they get too far from the kitchen?


Also a lot of crop-growing farmers would like a word with you (about deer, you know?)
 
2013-03-26 11:29:02 AM  

LL316: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.

Just grab it by the neck with a little pressure and the dog will immediately go into prone position.  It's science, since they don't want their throat ripped out.


I would question the wisdom of putting your hands on the throat of something that has a head the size of a basketball and a mouthful of carpet knives. Especially if the dog is attacking something. It may redirect on you and that ends poorly for all involved.
 
2013-03-26 11:33:37 AM  

reillan: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

This just in: sometimes people's opinions change.  This is especially true when traumatic events happen to them.


Fine.  Then why aren't Giffords/Kelly pushing for an "assault handgun" ban?????
 
2013-03-26 11:34:11 AM  

Archimedes' Principal: Devlik: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.


...Just as a heads up these dogs were raised to deal with feral hogs. A human kicking or punching it is just going to annoy it.

How would the dog feel about a human stabbing or poking its eyeball or ear canal with a stick ?


Stick the stick in it's rear end.  That'll stop it right quick.

It might snap back on you though, but more than likely it'll try to get the stick out of it's butt.
 
2013-03-26 11:35:18 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND: That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.

He's on a leash in the video.

Correction: He was not being led by the leash (in my unsupported opinion) when he ran over and attacked the seal.


my interpretation is the 18 y-o daughter is walking the dog on the leash.  dog sees sea lion, suddenly charges it.  daughter isn't strong enough to hold the leash.  dog is free, leash is dragging behind.
 
2013-03-26 11:36:15 AM  
Isn't there something like the marine mammal protection act or something?
 
2013-03-26 11:36:46 AM  
I had a Jindo. Very good dog, best friend ever, but had an uncontrollable prey drive (this is why they failed the LAPD K-9 unit, incidentally).
I took him everywhere, but always had a VERY solid grip on his leash. I also avoided places like dog parks and if I ever went to the beach with him you bet his body would be right pushing up against mine.

It is NEVER the dog's fault. They are an animal and you are their owner.

This doesn't mean dogs don't ever need to be put down, but that is simply an extension of the owner's responsibility.
 
2013-03-26 11:37:57 AM  

Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.


What a retard looks like.
 
2013-03-26 11:39:17 AM  

j__z: No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.


d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net
 
2013-03-26 11:39:50 AM  
PhiloeBedoe

With a lead-filled snow shoe?

Lead?
 
2013-03-26 11:43:45 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.


Wayne, you're already a drooling retard without help from anyone.  Congrats.
 
2013-03-26 11:43:47 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


th76.photobucket.com

Getting shot in the head and surviving may cause personal reflection and deep introspection on previously held beliefs.  Some call it "learning from past mistakes", others call it an "epiphany".
 
2013-03-26 11:45:09 AM  

Devlik: LL316: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.

Just grab it by the neck with a little pressure and the dog will immediately go into prone position.  It's science, since they don't want their throat ripped out.

I would question the wisdom of putting your hands on the throat of something that has a head the size of a basketball and a mouthful of carpet knives. Especially if the dog is attacking something. It may redirect on you and that ends poorly for all involved.


Animal control officers have told me that the best way to get them off something is a hard kick to the gut. It'll force the dog to open its mouth and let go.
 
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