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(AZCentral)   Gabby Gifford's husband pulls a mauling dog off a baby sea lion at a California beach. Despite his heroic efforts, the sea lion still died. This never would have happened if he had been armed   (azcentral.com ) divider line
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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-03-26 08:23:35 AM  
That's true.  Flippers are no good for pulling a trigger suck at pulling triggers and forget about the modified Weaver stance.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-03-26 08:24:40 AM  
Dammit.Flippers suck at pulling triggers and forget about the modified Weaver stance.
 
2013-03-26 08:57:28 AM  
So. Much. Trolling.
 
2013-03-26 09:14:27 AM  
With a lead-filled snow shoe?
 
2013-03-26 09:47:04 AM  
An animal attacked another animal and this is a story?
 
2013-03-26 09:48:15 AM  
... so vote Democrat.
 
2013-03-26 09:48:39 AM  
Too bad he didn't keep that rifle he bought, huh? He coulda saved that poor seal.

/ coulda, woulda, shoulda
 
2013-03-26 09:48:42 AM  
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2013-03-26 09:48:54 AM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-03-26 09:49:00 AM  
Yeah, like the father is going to shoot his daughter's dog right in front of her. That wouldn't happen if the dog attacked a PERSON.
 
2013-03-26 09:49:05 AM  
"pulls a mauling dog" sounds like a yoga move.
 
2013-03-26 09:49:46 AM  
It's neat that "this video stream is currently unavailable" but the add that comes before it works just fine.
 
2013-03-26 09:49:46 AM  
In the video obtained by the Times and KABC-TV, Kelly's screaming daughter tries to pull her dog from the sea lion as two other women help


Seems Smitty forgot the part about the dog belonging to Kelly's family
 
2013-03-26 09:50:21 AM  
Let's see... gun control advocate [check]
bully breed dog [check]
adorable animal killed [check]

Be right back. Going to make some popcorn.
 
2013-03-26 09:51:18 AM  
It's not "a mauling dog", it was Gifford's daughter's mauling dog, subby.
 
2013-03-26 09:52:29 AM  
"I like long walks on the beach, running with my dog, watching it utterly destroy cute sea mammals that just happen to be chilling on the shore."
 
2013-03-26 09:53:29 AM  

KatjaMouse: Let's see... gun control advocate [check]
bully breed dog [check]
adorable animal killed [check]

Be right back. Going to make some popcorn.



Wherever you stand on gun control or dogs or any other controversial issue.......
 
2013-03-26 09:54:37 AM  
There are two threads... is this the one where we defend the dogs and owners?  Or is that the other thread?
 
2013-03-26 09:54:53 AM  

LL316: An animal attacked another animal and this is a story?


No, an UGLY EVIL animal attacked a CUTE FLUFFY animal.

That's the story.
 
2013-03-26 09:55:44 AM  
Their family dog kills a baby sea lion and now he's a hero???
 
2013-03-26 09:56:19 AM  
i48.tinypic.com

Seal Flipper Pie Recipe

Written by Ryan Woodford (CyberSpike)


Ingredients:

# 4 seal flippers

# 1 L water

# 500 ml soda

# 125 ml fat pork, diced

# 1 cup milk

# 2 onoins, chopped

# 5 ml salt

# 60 ml flour

# 250 ml cold water

# 5 ml Worcestershire sauce


Directions:

Soak flippers in 1 L of water and soda. Trim off excess fat.


Dry flippers and dip in seasoned flour.


Brown in pork fat. Add onions and make a gravy of flour, water, and sauce. Pour over flippers.


Cover and bake at 350 degrees F for 2-3 hours.


Make a pastry and cover the flippers. Bake at 400 degrees F for 30 minutes.
 
2013-03-26 09:57:32 AM  
This story is FROM OUUUUTER SPAAAAAAAACE
 
2013-03-26 09:57:56 AM  
Mean man takes away dog's chew toy.
 
2013-03-26 09:59:45 AM  
*unhappy sigh*
Headline was much funnier when I mis-read it as

Gabby Gifford's husband pulls a mauling dog off a BABY at a California beach.

/I'm a sick %*$&, I know .  Let the bashing begin.
 
2013-03-26 10:00:44 AM  
So a dog can't stand its ground when a sea lion is threatening it?
 
2013-03-26 10:01:35 AM  
Well, Mark Kelly is kind of a badass. *shrug*
 
2013-03-26 10:02:24 AM  
DNRTFA...was the dog on a leash?
 
2013-03-26 10:03:08 AM  

Kyosuke: No, an UGLY EVIL animal attacked a CUTE FLUFFY animal.


Sea lions aren't so cute when they're eviscerating penguins.
 
2013-03-26 10:03:30 AM  
Do they not have leash laws on these beaches?
 
2013-03-26 10:03:52 AM  
Another responsible owner with the world's most misunderstood, loyal, friendly breed.

I'll totally follow whatever this guy says publicly... he was an astronaut fer chrissakes.

All joking aside, guess I can't blame the guy for getting his daughter a pit bull after his wife had her face blown off.

But I don't associate with pit owners plain and simple. Much like a top-down convertible can tell you about a mustached-man in a leisure suit, a pit bull can tell me all about the coconut oil wearing dipshiat wearing Oakleys holding the leash. Baby seal, baby child, whatever, right? Just let that friendly thing run free.
 
2013-03-26 10:04:30 AM  

Archimedes' Principal: It's not "a mauling dog", it was Gifford's daughter's mauling dog, subby.


Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.

If it had been Scott Walker's dog I'm sure it would read something like "The dog, which was trained by Walker, possibly to kill ... "
 
2013-03-26 10:05:09 AM  
THe dog WAS on a leash. RTFA next time.
 
2013-03-26 10:06:29 AM  
I assume the dog wasn't on a leash when it attacked? WTF !!!

With this video as proof, there should be charges brought on the owner of the dog.

Just wait, it will all get swept under the rug since Mom was a Congressperson and Daddy's an astronaut.
 
2013-03-26 10:07:24 AM  

WTFDYW: THe dog WAS on a leash. RTFA next time.


Well then that is owner fail.

s3.amazonaws.com

Looks like Cesar needs to teach them some common sense
 
2013-03-26 10:08:15 AM  
We need to ban assault dogs.  Why doesn't Kelley care about the sea lion children???

/video looks like a pit bull, BTW.
 
2013-03-26 10:09:15 AM  
According to Biden, Giffords was mortally wounded in that attack.  So I am not surprise that the widow would not carry a gun or even own a gun.
 
2013-03-26 10:10:13 AM  

Archimedes' Principal: I assume the dog wasn't on a leash when it attacked? WTF !!!

With this video as proof, there should be charges brought on the owner of the dog.

Just wait, it will all get swept under the rug since Mom was a Congressperson and Daddy's an astronaut.


A. The dog was on a leash and apparently either broke it or pulled free of whoever was holding it.
B. The dog attacked a wild animal that happened to be on a beach. It's no different than your dog killing a squirrel or your cat killing a mouse - it just happens to have been a cuddlier animal.
 
2013-03-26 10:12:21 AM  
Come one, man. Get control of your farking dog. Not to sound like a tree-hugger, but the seal has a right to be there, too. When some authority tries to ban dogs on the beach it will be because of clowns like this. That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.
 
2013-03-26 10:13:18 AM  

This text is now purple: Kyosuke: No, an UGLY EVIL animal attacked a CUTE FLUFFY animal.

Sea lions aren't so cute when they're eviscerating penguins.


But; what happens AFTER they eviscerate the pen-guins? Hint; big soul-full eyes.
 
2013-03-26 10:14:28 AM  
Hrm, other thread's a dup. In the likely event it's deleted: they can take my (well-behaved, obedience-trained) American Bulldog from my cold dead hands.

lh3.googleusercontent.com

lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-03-26 10:15:50 AM  
Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner
 
2013-03-26 10:16:57 AM  
Might as well pull out the gasoline.  In actuality, pit bulls are the primary reason that I carry concealed...

Just sayin'.
 
2013-03-26 10:17:44 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.


He's on a leash in the video.
 
2013-03-26 10:20:33 AM  

cptrios: Archimedes' Principal: I assume the dog wasn't on a leash when it attacked? WTF !!!

With this video as proof, there should be charges brought on the owner of the dog.

Just wait, it will all get swept under the rug since Mom was a Congressperson and Daddy's an astronaut.

A. The dog was on a leash and apparently either broke it or pulled free of whoever was holding it.
or the owner let the dog run with the leash attached.  I have seen this many times on the beach.
They keep the leash on so they can get the dog back.


B. The dog attacked a wild animal that happened to be on a beach. It's no different than your dog killing a squirrel or your cat killing a mouse - it just happens to have been a cuddlier animal.

you think seals are cuddly?  sick.  If he killed a bald eagle, or even a slightly balding eagle, you wouldn't be so flippant about this irresponsibility.

 
2013-03-26 10:20:52 AM  

spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND: That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.

He's on a leash in the video.


Correction: He was not being led by the leash (in my unsupported opinion) when he ran over and attacked the seal.
 
2013-03-26 10:22:44 AM  

WTFDYW: THe dog WAS on a leash. RTFA next time.


 the owners were completely irresponsible since they could not control a dog that is on a leash.
They should keep that dog at home until they know how to control it.

It was a seal this time, next time it could be a baby.
 
2013-03-26 10:25:55 AM  
No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.
 
ows
2013-03-26 10:26:57 AM  
pit bulls like to attack things that move? i didn't know that.

lifeless eyes
 
2013-03-26 10:27:40 AM  
Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.
 
2013-03-26 10:29:38 AM  
So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.
 
2013-03-26 10:29:56 AM  

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seals in newport beach. hte babies had just been "whelped" (fancy nautical marine biologist term i use) a few days earlier, according to the boat tour dudes. the second one, they stick their flippers in the air to help regulate their temperature while waiting to jump onto the red buot.

we also saw dolphins. few weeks earlier, the boat tour guys said they saw a pod of orcas hunting and one time, a shark snapped up a seal.

/csb
 
2013-03-26 10:30:12 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: WTFDYW: THe dog WAS on a leash. RTFA next time.

 the owners were completely irresponsible since they could not control a dog that is on a leash.
They should keep that dog at home until they know how to control it.

It was a seal this time, next time it could be a baby.


A baby would be even more tender
 
2013-03-26 10:30:27 AM  

Chach: Archimedes' Principal: It's not "a mauling dog", it was Gifford's daughter's mauling dog, subby.

Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.

If it had been Scott Walker's dog I'm sure it would read something like "The dog, which was trained by Walker, possibly to kill ... "


Go on. Tell me more about this. It sounds like you may be on to something.
 
2013-03-26 10:31:17 AM  

DragonIV: Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner


Yep.  Here in the boonies, dogs that are caught chasing deer and elk end up dead.  Pretty much a rule that if your dog chases game and you can't control them, they will be shot.  That kind of stuff is not tolerated at all here.
 
2013-03-26 10:32:13 AM  

rickythepenguin: we also saw dolphins. few weeks earlier, the boat tour guys said they saw a pod of orcas hunting and one time, a shark snapped up a seal.


WE NEED TO OUTLAW SHARKS!!1!1!!
 
2013-03-26 10:32:58 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: you think seals are cuddly?  sick.  If he killed a bald eagle, or even a slightly balding eagle, you wouldn't be so flippant about this irresponsibility.


This town would like a word with you. Also, a dog fighting a bald eagle would rank pretty high on the "this is awesome enough to overcome the revulsion brought on by watching animals kill each other" list.
 
2013-03-26 10:33:41 AM  

Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.


Good thing this wasn't an American Bulldog, or you'd look really foolish right now.
 
2013-03-26 10:34:49 AM  

HeadLever: DragonIV: Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner

Yep.  Here in the boonies, dogs that are caught chasing deer and elk end up dead.  Pretty much a rule that if your dog chases game and you can't control them, they will be shot.  That kind of stuff is not tolerated at all here.


Sounds like an advanced civilization you have there. Are wimmen shot if they get too far from the kitchen?
 
2013-03-26 10:36:15 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.


He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/12/mark-kelly-buys-ar-15-assa ul t-weapon-handgun/
Kelly said he went to the Tucson gun store recently to buy a .45 caliber handgun, which he plans to keep.
 
2013-03-26 10:36:49 AM  
Administrator #102's head pounded in time with the blinking amber light on her console. Man, that Washington rye could be some terrible stuff!

Leaning both elbows on the console edge, she cradled her face in her palms. That farking Moderator #17 would be at the other end of that blinking yellow light. He would have his tiny little balls sweating with outrage that Administrator #102 would have greened two stories about the same thing. He would biatch about how many Notify Moderator messages were coming in and he would moan about how many Farkbacks were stacking up. He would go on and on about how he would make a better Administrator than her and how that sort of duplicate green would NEVER happen on his watch.

Well, Moderator #17 could just take a flying fark at a rolling donut.

Administrator #102 adjusted her headset, lit a smoke with the sterling silver squirrel nut lighter, and blew a big cloud of smoke out into the dark room before opening the circuit.

"Go ahead, Mod seventeen" she intoned evenly.

"Are you aware that you have two greens on the same story on the main page again? I mean, when you screw up the video tab, that's one thing, but the main page for God's sake!" Christ, the whine in that voice made Administrator #102's fists ball up without her even realizing.

"Yeah. I know" she replied.

"Well what are you going to do about it?"

"Not a farking thing. They both get a full ride."

There was silence. Moderator #17 was trying to think of something to say to that. When it finally came, his response could not have been worse.

"The boss is going to hear about this."

Administrator #102 smiled in the darkness. She quickly keyed up Drew Curtis'  itinerary for the day before answering.

"The boss," she began coolly, "is in LA today visiting Vincent_BlackShadow. After that he's headed down to San Diego to start brewing some beer with that Wheaton guy. Why don't you go ahead and give him a call in the middle of that. I'm sure he love to hear from you, because right now I'm the boss, you got that?" She snapped off the comm circuit and took another drag off her cigarette.

Moderator #17 could just take a flying fark at a rolling donut.
 
2013-03-26 10:38:16 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND: That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.

He's on a leash in the video.

Correction: He was not being led by the leash (in my unsupported opinion) when he ran over and attacked the seal.


The leash doesn't appear to be broken because Mark Kelley leads the dog away with it. The woman had more dog than she could control and may not have been holding the leash. American bulldogs are oftentimes used for hog hunting because they will aggressively pursue and doggedly hold a feral hog. They tend to be good natured with people and people forget that they are hunters. As someone else mentioned "drop it" is a really important command for all dogs particularly the bully breeds.

/ My boxer 'dropped' her first successful squirrel kill yesterday
// Good dog
/// Kill the rest of the tree rats
 
2013-03-26 10:38:53 AM  

j__z: No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.


7lbs
 
2013-03-26 10:38:57 AM  
HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.
 
2013-03-26 10:39:27 AM  

cygnusx13: Sounds like an advanced civilization you have there.


If you can't keep control of your dog, you won't have one for very long.  Not a question about civilization, but protecting big game herds during the winter.  Undue stress and exertion during the winter months is bad news for deer and elk here.

And them wimmen folks are just as likely to be the ones do'n the shootn'.
 
2013-03-26 10:41:14 AM  

Office Ninja: WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.

He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/12/mark-kelly-buys-ar-15-assa ul t-weapon-handgun/
Kelly said he went to the Tucson gun store recently to buy a .45 caliber handgun, which he plans to keep.


What's hilarious is that Mark Kelly failed the background check. No self-defense for you! Now you get to live the way you want everyone else to live.

/in case that link is stripped out, google "Mark Kelly AR15 rescinded"
 
2013-03-26 10:43:39 AM  
Old_Chief_Scott

That was beutiful. Very artful.
 
2013-03-26 10:44:10 AM  

Chach: Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.


Awwww, so sorry about the owie on your butt.
 
2013-03-26 10:44:28 AM  
Good dog.  Sea lions are nasty bastards.  That's one less asshole-of-the-sea
 
2013-03-26 10:48:46 AM  

spickus: j__z: No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.

7lbs


How about "You may purchase a dog capable of 10 lbs but it must be limited to no more than 7 lbs."
 
2013-03-26 10:52:55 AM  

Chach: Archimedes' Principal: It's not "a mauling dog", it was Gifford's daughter's mauling dog, subby.

Yep. Love how the media buries the lede when it's a Dem.

If it had been Scott Walker's dog I'm sure it would read something like "The dog, which was trained by Walker, possibly to kill ... "


To be fair, Walker is an asshole.
 
2013-03-26 10:53:20 AM  

ows: pit bulls like to attack things that move? i didn't know that.

lifeless eyes


Shhh . . . it's a "mauling dog".
 
2013-03-26 10:54:30 AM  

Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.


Yep, and then there's this:

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When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:08 AM  

Office Ninja: How about "You may purchase a dog capable of 10 lbs but it must be limited to no more than 7 lbs."



imageshack.us

You tell him he's going on a diet.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:23 AM  

Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.


You haven't dealt with American Bulldogs at all. Their pain tolerance is unreal. Under water I will grant you no animal likes drowning, but you could hit that dog with your fist as hard as you want and it would likely not even faze it. Add to that the risk of redirection. Training would have been the key here. These are not a dog you want to try to beat into submission, it will not end well for you,it will not end well for the dog.

Just as a heads up these dogs were raised to deal with feral hogs. A human kicking or punching it is just going to annoy it.
 
2013-03-26 10:59:42 AM  

cptrios: Archimedes' Principal: I assume the dog wasn't on a leash when it attacked? WTF !!!

With this video as proof, there should be charges brought on the owner of the dog.

Just wait, it will all get swept under the rug since Mom was a Congressperson and Daddy's an astronaut.

A. The dog was on a leash and apparently either broke it or pulled free of whoever was holding it.
B. The dog attacked a wild animal that happened to be on a beach. It's no different than your dog killing a squirrel or your cat killing a mouse - it just happens to have been a cuddlier animal.



- California sea lions, like all marine mammals, are protected under the MMPA.

The dog owner is totally responsible for damage done to sea lion. If the dog was on a leash, then she had no real control over the dog if it was able to attack the sea lion.

Not so CSB:  While visiting Hawaii during 1980, I watched a 'Pit Bull' husk a coconut that had fallen from a tree. It took him less than 5 minutes. The same dog had previously attacked and killed a neighbor's dog.
 
2013-03-26 11:04:14 AM  

Devlik: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.


...Just as a heads up these dogs were raised to deal with feral hogs. A human kicking or punching it is just going to annoy it.


How would the dog feel about a human stabbing or poking its eyeball or ear canal with a stick ?
 
2013-03-26 11:05:22 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

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When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


Well, at least she is exercising trigger control, unlike that walking corpse Feinstein.
 
2013-03-26 11:07:53 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Administrator #102's head pounded in time with the blinking amber light on her console. Man, that Washington rye could be some terrible stuff!

Leaning both elbows on the console edge, she cradled her face in her palms. That farking Moderator #17 would be at the other end of that blinking yellow light. He would have his tiny little balls sweating with outrage that Administrator #102 would have greened two stories about the same thing. He would biatch about how many Notify Moderator messages were coming in and he would moan about how many Farkbacks were stacking up. He would go on and on about how he would make a better Administrator than her and how that sort of duplicate green would NEVER happen on his watch.

Well, Moderator #17 could just take a flying fark at a rolling donut.

Administrator #102 adjusted her headset, lit a smoke with the sterling silver squirrel nut lighter, and blew a big cloud of smoke out into the dark room before opening the circuit.

"Go ahead, Mod seventeen" she intoned evenly.

"Are you aware that you have two greens on the same story on the main page again? I mean, when you screw up the video tab, that's one thing, but the main page for God's sake!" Christ, the whine in that voice made Administrator #102's fists ball up without her even realizing.

"Yeah. I know" she replied.

"Well what are you going to do about it?"

"Not a farking thing. They both get a full ride."

There was silence. Moderator #17 was trying to think of something to say to that. When it finally came, his response could not have been worse.

"The boss is going to hear about this."

Administrator #102 smiled in the darkness. She quickly keyed up Drew Curtis'  itinerary for the day before answering.

"The boss," she began coolly, "is in LA today visiting Vincent_BlackShadow. After that he's headed down to San Diego to start brewing some beer with that Wheaton guy. Why don't you go ahead and give him a call in the middle of that. I'm sure he love to hear from you, becaus ...


Yeah, I'll give you chops on this one as well....moar!
 
2013-03-26 11:08:59 AM  

Devlik: You haven't dealt with American Bulldogs at all.


You are correct - I have not dealt with them much at all.  Never tried to stop one from attacking another animal, that is for sure.  I've dealt with an Akita trying to rip the ear off of another dog, but never had to deal with a dog of my own attacking something else.

I do know that all dogs like to breathe though.  And yes, training is key, but obviously not all dog owners are that responsible.  When training breaks down (or doesn't exist), you should at the very least be capable of restraining your dog physically.  If not, you should have a smaller dog, or no dog at all.
 
2013-03-26 11:09:15 AM  

iheartscotch: Too bad he didn't keep that rifle he bought, huh? He coulda saved that poor seal.

/ coulda, woulda, shoulda


Actually, the shop terminated the sale because the manager had doubts about his intentions.
 
2013-03-26 11:10:51 AM  

dudemanbro: Their family dog kills a baby sea lion and now he's a hero???


Hahaha.

You sir get...IT.
 
2013-03-26 11:14:23 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: According to Biden, Giffords was mortally wounded in that attack.  So I am not surprise that the widow would not carry a gun or even own a gun.


The problem was that Giffords fired both barrels of her double barreled shotgun off as a warning.  At that point, someone was left unarmed.  What good advice Big Joe gives.
 
2013-03-26 11:15:55 AM  

Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.


Just grab it by the neck with a little pressure and the dog will immediately go into prone position.  It's science, since they don't want their throat ripped out.
 
2013-03-26 11:18:30 AM  
This story sums up so much of what is wrong with the mass media, and America's inability to get the whole story unless you're cruising around obscure threads in a snarky news aggregator site.

1. The "hero" came to the party late.
2. A well-intentioned woman couldn't control a dog.
3. The dog in question was apparently trained poorly.
4. Said dog was owned by the well-intentioned woman.
5. The "hero" is the father of the dog owner.
6. The media completely misses the point about poor pet ownership and concocts a story.
7. The coverage is invasive to start with, let alone slanted.
 
2013-03-26 11:20:56 AM  
Lucky this was a "celebrity's dog" else there'd be charges and huge fines for disrupting the fat little creatures.
 
2013-03-26 11:21:10 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.


What we have here is a crusader.
 encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-26 11:25:25 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


This just in: sometimes people's opinions change.  This is especially true when traumatic events happen to them.
 
2013-03-26 11:26:32 AM  

cygnusx13: HeadLever: DragonIV: Protip:  train your dog.  If you cannot teach your dog to "drop it," and get immediate compliance, you have no business having a dog.  I don't care what breed it is--they all have teeth and are quite capable of causing injury.

/ treeing walker coonhound owner

Yep.  Here in the boonies, dogs that are caught chasing deer and elk end up dead.  Pretty much a rule that if your dog chases game and you can't control them, they will be shot.  That kind of stuff is not tolerated at all here.

Sounds like an advanced civilization you have there. Are wimmen shot if they get too far from the kitchen?


Also a lot of crop-growing farmers would like a word with you (about deer, you know?)
 
2013-03-26 11:29:02 AM  

LL316: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.

Just grab it by the neck with a little pressure and the dog will immediately go into prone position.  It's science, since they don't want their throat ripped out.


I would question the wisdom of putting your hands on the throat of something that has a head the size of a basketball and a mouthful of carpet knives. Especially if the dog is attacking something. It may redirect on you and that ends poorly for all involved.
 
2013-03-26 11:33:37 AM  

reillan: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

This just in: sometimes people's opinions change.  This is especially true when traumatic events happen to them.


Fine.  Then why aren't Giffords/Kelly pushing for an "assault handgun" ban?????
 
2013-03-26 11:34:11 AM  

Archimedes' Principal: Devlik: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.


...Just as a heads up these dogs were raised to deal with feral hogs. A human kicking or punching it is just going to annoy it.

How would the dog feel about a human stabbing or poking its eyeball or ear canal with a stick ?


Stick the stick in it's rear end.  That'll stop it right quick.

It might snap back on you though, but more than likely it'll try to get the stick out of it's butt.
 
2013-03-26 11:35:18 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND: That damned dog didn't break any leash. He never was on one.

He's on a leash in the video.

Correction: He was not being led by the leash (in my unsupported opinion) when he ran over and attacked the seal.


my interpretation is the 18 y-o daughter is walking the dog on the leash.  dog sees sea lion, suddenly charges it.  daughter isn't strong enough to hold the leash.  dog is free, leash is dragging behind.
 
2013-03-26 11:36:15 AM  
Isn't there something like the marine mammal protection act or something?
 
2013-03-26 11:36:46 AM  
I had a Jindo. Very good dog, best friend ever, but had an uncontrollable prey drive (this is why they failed the LAPD K-9 unit, incidentally).
I took him everywhere, but always had a VERY solid grip on his leash. I also avoided places like dog parks and if I ever went to the beach with him you bet his body would be right pushing up against mine.

It is NEVER the dog's fault. They are an animal and you are their owner.

This doesn't mean dogs don't ever need to be put down, but that is simply an extension of the owner's responsibility.
 
2013-03-26 11:37:57 AM  

Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.


What a retard looks like.
 
2013-03-26 11:39:17 AM  

j__z: No one needs a 65 lb dog, dogs should be limited to 10 lbs.


d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net
 
2013-03-26 11:39:50 AM  
PhiloeBedoe

With a lead-filled snow shoe?

Lead?
 
2013-03-26 11:43:45 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: So some random nut turns his corrupt DC politician wife into a drooling retard, and now this douche wants to strip gun rights from ALL of us? Because something bad happens to him, some freakishly random event, all of us should pay by giving up some basic, hard won rights. Man, what a scumbag piece of sh*t.


Wayne, you're already a drooling retard without help from anyone.  Congrats.
 
2013-03-26 11:43:47 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


th76.photobucket.com

Getting shot in the head and surviving may cause personal reflection and deep introspection on previously held beliefs.  Some call it "learning from past mistakes", others call it an "epiphany".
 
2013-03-26 11:45:09 AM  

Devlik: LL316: Stoj: HIT THE DOG.

And not the little snaps that woman seems to be doing.  Hit the farking dog in the head or hold it's face under the water.  It'll let go.

Control your farking dogs and don't let your children handle dogs that they cannot control.  It's not rocket science.

Just grab it by the neck with a little pressure and the dog will immediately go into prone position.  It's science, since they don't want their throat ripped out.

I would question the wisdom of putting your hands on the throat of something that has a head the size of a basketball and a mouthful of carpet knives. Especially if the dog is attacking something. It may redirect on you and that ends poorly for all involved.


Animal control officers have told me that the best way to get them off something is a hard kick to the gut. It'll force the dog to open its mouth and let go.
 
2013-03-26 11:47:02 AM  

pute kisses like a man: "pulls a mauling dog" sounds like a yoga move.


Wow, that made me laugh way harder than it should've.

/+1 internets to you
//still laughing
 
2013-03-26 11:47:27 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?
 
2013-03-26 11:48:34 AM  

justtray: Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.

What a retard looks like.


What a retard looks like.
/ Wow, ad hominem attacks are fun AND pointless.
 
2013-03-26 11:51:03 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.


She was at a SWAT training facility. The photo conveniently crops the cop out. She's not advocating that citizens should have theses. Your argument is invalid

blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com
 
2013-03-26 11:51:26 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?


It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.  He is openly admitting to purchasing a .45 with the intent to keep it.
 
2013-03-26 11:52:31 AM  

StrikitRich: In the video obtained by the Times and KABC-TV, Kelly's screaming daughter tries to pull her dog from the sea lion as two other women help


Seems Smitty forgot the part about the dog belonging to Kelly's family


Yeah, I was all like "An astronaut and hero" then "dumbass dog owner who can't control his dog off leash." Now I feel bad. Thanks, subby!

/doesn't let GSD off leash outside of a fenced area
 
2013-03-26 11:52:45 AM  

Office Ninja: Uranus Is Huge!: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?

It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.  He is openly admitting to purchasing a .45 with the intent to keep it.


Kelly didn't get shot in the head, Giffords did.
 
2013-03-26 11:54:31 AM  

Bronzed War God: There are two threads... is this the one where we defend the dogs and owners?  Or is that the other thread?


Where do the space-nerds stand on this issue?
 
2013-03-26 11:57:20 AM  

Madame Ovary: Bronzed War God: There are two threads... is this the one where we defend the dogs and owners?  Or is that the other thread?

Where do the space-nerds stand on this issue?


Ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a good blaster at your side.
 
2013-03-26 11:57:46 AM  

The Envoy: Office Ninja: Uranus Is Huge!: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?

It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.  He is openly admitting to purchasing a .45 with the intent to keep it.

Kelly didn't get shot in the head, Giffords did.


Neither one is advocating a ban on handguns.
When he bought the AR-15 it was only to prove a point that the background checks aren't as bad as the NRA is making them out to be.
They are quick,unobtrusive and painless.
 
2013-03-26 11:58:17 AM  

theurge14: Getting shot in the head and surviving may cause personal reflection and deep introspection on previously held beliefs.


Yeah, if your response to a personal tragedy is to call for stripping the rights of ALL others in society, then you're a real piece of sh*t in my view. She lost something, so all others must suffer as well - it's only fair.

/Outta here - taking wifey out sledding - in LATE MARCH!
 
2013-03-26 12:03:40 PM  

spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND: spickus: DROxINxTHExWIND:  American bulldogs are oftentimes used for hog hunting because they will aggressively pursue and doggedly hold a feral hog.


So American Bulldogs are yet another NRA conspiracy!!
 
2013-03-26 12:03:45 PM  
So let me see if I got this one. Responsible bulldog owners are responsible until they aren't?
 
2013-03-26 12:05:58 PM  

The Envoy: Office Ninja: Uranus Is Huge!: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?

It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.  He is openly admitting to purchasing a .45 with the intent to keep it.

Kelly didn't get shot in the head, Giffords did.


Hence why I said "Kelly" and not "her".

But using the intent of your post, I guess you think Kelly should be completely OK with purchasing a handgun, the same weapon that almost took his wife's life, but crusade against AR-15 style rifles which had absolutely nothing do do with her injuries.

We're trying to point out the hypocrasy here but you miss the point apparently as much as other liberal "assault weapon" ban enthusiasts.  Good job.
 
2013-03-26 12:13:32 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Also a lot of crop-growing farmers would like a word with you (about deer, you know?)


Here, the deer and elk don't do much damage in the winter, so long as you keep the haystacks fenced off.  Also, this is the critical time for big game as they are much weaker and stress and exhertion will be much more of a concern.  During the growing season, they are much healthier and typically back in the mountains and away from the farm/ranch lands.
 
2013-03-26 12:17:40 PM  
Kelly didn't get shot in the head, Giffords did.

Hence why I said "Kelly" and not "her".

But using the intent of your post, I guess you think Kelly should be completely OK with purchasing a handgun, the same weapon that almost took his wife's life, but crusade against AR-15 style rifles which had absolutely nothing do do with her injuries.

We're trying to point out the hypocrasy here but you miss the point apparently as much as other liberal "assault weapon" ban enthusiasts.  Good job.


Somebody needs to learn to read properly!  I'll map it our for you:
The picture of Giffords holding the rifle was posted to demonstrate hypocrisy on her part.
The logical response was to point out that she underwent a serious trauma (being shot in the head) which changed her opinion, which is to be expected.
You responded:

Office Ninja: It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.

I then pointed out that he wasn't shot in the head which is, at this point in time, factually correct is it not?  This then renders your response irrelevant.

Despite your opinion, there was no intent other than to point out that your response was a bit of a non sequitur given that the point you responded to was about how a trauma could affect the sufferer's point of view.

Sorry you're so butthurt about it though.
 
2013-03-26 12:18:25 PM  
I wonder how Giffords feels about her hubby having a handgun around her.
 
2013-03-26 12:18:43 PM  
img401.imageshack.us

Fake shooped picture. A woman her size wouldn't have hands that big.

Nice try tho.
 
2013-03-26 12:20:21 PM  

Hobodeluxe: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

She was at a SWAT training facility. The photo conveniently crops the cop out. She's not advocating that citizens should have theses. Your argument is invalid

[blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com image 550x440]


It looks like she's about to shoot that officer in the foot.
 
2013-03-26 12:21:14 PM  

Office Ninja: justtray: Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.

What a retard looks like.

What a retard looks like.
/ Wow, ad hominem attacks are fun AND pointless.


Not pointless, you are a re-re. What's pointless is false equivilence. You're equating dogs to guns. Lets ignore how amazingly stupid you are for one second. Pit Bulls ARE banned in many places. Have you ever had to search for an apartment and get asked how many/what type of guns you have? Because most places don't allow dogs at all, and pit bulls are almost universally restricted.

Long story short, stop being such a mouth-breathing idiot.
 
2013-03-26 12:21:54 PM  
blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com

Ah. Good ol' Tucson police. Interesting how they use the image of a Hispanic man as the 'bad guy'.

Welcome to Arizona.
 
2013-03-26 12:23:31 PM  

Office Ninja: The Envoy: Office Ninja: Uranus Is Huge!: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?

It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.  He is openly admitting to purchasing a .45 with the intent to keep it.

Kelly didn't get shot in the head, Giffords did.

Hence why I said "Kelly" and not "her".

But using the intent of your post, I guess you think Kelly should be completely OK with purchasing a handgun, the same weapon that almost took his wife's life, but crusade against AR-15 style rifles which had absolutely nothing do do with her injuries.

We're trying to point out the hypocrasy here but you miss the point apparently as much as other liberal "assault weapon" ban enthusiasts.  Good job.


Never go full retard. And it's spelled hypocrisy, kid.
 
2013-03-26 12:25:29 PM  

Godscrack: Ah. Good ol' Tucson police. Interesting how they use the image of a Hispanic man as the 'bad guy'.

Welcome to Arizona.


Maybe it's because he's wearing a Cal hat in wildcat country. But feel free to just throw that race card around.
 
2013-03-26 12:27:20 PM  

Godscrack: [blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com image 550x440]

Ah. Good ol' Tucson police. Interesting how they use the image of a Hispanic man as the 'bad guy'.

Welcome to Arizona.


I see a white boy with chin pubes.
 
2013-03-26 12:28:27 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: theurge14: Getting shot in the head and surviving may cause personal reflection and deep introspection on previously held beliefs.

Yeah, if your response to a personal tragedy is to call for stripping the rights of ALL others in society, then you're a real piece of sh*t in my view. She lost something, so all others must suffer as well - it's only fair.


You poor dear.
 
2013-03-26 12:30:49 PM  

ScouserDuck: But feel free to just throw that race card around.


Hispanic isn't a race.
 
2013-03-26 12:31:33 PM  

Hobodeluxe: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

She was at a SWAT training facility. The photo conveniently crops the cop out. She's not advocating that citizens should have theses. Your argument is invalid

[blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com image 550x440]


Anything we have in law enforcement I believe the citizens of this country should have. We are not the military so if we need it then an ordinary sane citizen could possibly need it too as far as firearms are concerned.

Just a thought but his dog has now more confirmed kills then my personaly carry pistol.
 
2013-03-26 12:33:27 PM  
On November 22, 1963, the President was shot in the head in Dallas, TX. Did the country go on a rabid liberal witch-hunt of rifles? No.

Why not?
 
2013-03-26 12:33:36 PM  
All I saw was a nice bikini bottom. More please.
 
2013-03-26 12:36:16 PM  
The pit bull and the sea lion are natural enemies; they do compete for all the same resources.
 
2013-03-26 12:39:09 PM  
Somebody needs to edit that video showing Mark Kelly throttling Wayne la Pierre instead of the dog.
 
2013-03-26 12:48:08 PM  

mithras_angel: The pit bull and the sea lion are natural enemies; they do compete for all the same resources.


Actaully, most of what sea lions like to eat will kill a dog.  Neorickettsia is something your dog DOES NOT WANT.
 
2013-03-26 12:49:20 PM  
 
2013-03-26 12:49:38 PM  
Soooo, nature happened?
 
2013-03-26 12:52:17 PM  

Office Ninja: Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle pit bull??
Assault rifles Pit bulls were created for one purpose, to attack and kill.
Assault rifles Pit bulls are responsible for hundreds of deaths and injuries each year.
If you need home defense, why not just get a shotgun Collie?
We need background checks and registration for all assault weapon pit bull purchases.


It is legal to ban outright pitbull ownership, and some states already do
It's currently far harder to buy a pitbull than a gun in most cities
Pitbull ownership requires a license, gun ownership does not
and you can sue the manufacturer of a pitbull for injuries caused by their animal, the same is not true for guns

so what was that asinine point you were trying to make?
 
2013-03-26 12:58:29 PM  

Magorn: and you can sue the manufacturer of a pitbull for injuries caused by their animal,


So you can sue the parents of the dog?  Hmm, I forsee some issues with this type of lawsuit.
 
2013-03-26 01:02:19 PM  

Magorn: and you can sue the manufacturer of a pitbull for injuries caused by their animal, the same is not true for guns



What might a "pitbull manufacturer" look like?

Can you make a ptbull with a 3D printer?
 
2013-03-26 01:04:36 PM  

dropdfun: Anything we have in law enforcement I believe the citizens of this country should have. We are not the military so if we need it then an ordinary sane citizen could possibly need it too as far as firearms are concerned.

Just a thought but his dog has now more confirmed kills then my personaly carry pistol.


That sounds like an arms race with police, which we already have. When the police are outgunned by citizens, they acquire bigger and more powerful weapons. The guns are manufactured at a prolific pace so there is an abundance on the private market.

Why do law abiding citizens (or anyone really) need firepower that matches the police?
 
2013-03-26 01:08:02 PM  

Amos Quito: Magorn: and you can sue the manufacturer of a pitbull for injuries caused by their animal, the same is not true for guns


What might a "pitbull manufacturer" look like?

Can you make a ptbull with a 3D printer?


the call them "puppy mills" and yes there have been suits against breeders arguing that either they improperly trained the dog before selling it, or that they so inbred their lines that the dogs produced were too agressive
 
2013-03-26 01:08:37 PM  

cptrios: tenpoundsofcheese: you think seals are cuddly?  sick.  If he killed a bald eagle, or even a slightly balding eagle, you wouldn't be so flippant about this irresponsibility.

This town would like a word with you. Also, a dog fighting a bald eagle would rank pretty high on the "this is awesome enough to overcome the revulsion brought on by watching animals kill each other" list.


Before I even clicked on the link, I thought, "I bet that's Homer, AK again. Stupid eagle woman."
 
2013-03-26 01:09:11 PM  
nice one subby.
 
2013-03-26 01:14:56 PM  

Godscrack: [blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com image 550x440]

Ah. Good ol' Tucson police. Interesting how they use the image of a Hispanic man as the 'bad guy'.

Welcome to Arizona.


What happened to it being a shop ?
 
2013-03-26 01:15:25 PM  

Godscrack: [img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

Fake shooped picture. A woman her size wouldn't have hands that big.

Nice try tho.


Not sure if serious.

Giffords validated this image as real.
 
2013-03-26 01:16:58 PM  

tylerdurden217: dropdfun: Anything we have in law enforcement I believe the citizens of this country should have. We are not the military so if we need it then an ordinary sane citizen could possibly need it too as far as firearms are concerned.

Just a thought but his dog has now more confirmed kills then my personaly carry pistol.

That sounds like an arms race with police, which we already have. When the police are outgunned by citizens, they acquire bigger and more powerful weapons. The guns are manufactured at a prolific pace so there is an abundance on the private market.

Why do law abiding citizens (or anyone really) need firepower that matches the police?


Because it is our duty as citizens to attempt a military overthrow of the govt should it get too abusive of its citizens. I'm not saying that'll happen, but that has been plainly clear since the founding of our country.
 
2013-03-26 01:18:33 PM  

HeadLever: mithras_angel: The pit bull and the sea lion are natural enemies; they do compete for all the same resources.

Actaully, most of what sea lions like to eat will kill a dog.  Neorickettsia is something your dog DOES NOT WANT.



You've been here six years, and you don't get that sort of joke?
 
2013-03-26 01:19:29 PM  
www.austindogzone.com

Cranked up all the way would of stopped the dog and sent it running the opposite direction after leaping 10' in the air.
 
2013-03-26 01:23:24 PM  

iheartscotch: Too bad he didn't keep that rifle he bought, huh? He coulda saved that poor seal.

/ coulda, woulda, shoulda


Except that if he dared carry a firearm in public in California, he'd have been locked up for life

†  or the next prisoner release for overcrowding, whichever came first
 
2013-03-26 01:27:53 PM  

Hobodeluxe: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

She was at a SWAT training facility. The photo conveniently crops the cop out. She's not advocating that citizens should have theses. Your argument is invalid

[blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com image 550x440]


She's clearly enjoying her privilege of being able to shoot that rifle.  Why should I, as a "mere citizen", not have the same right?
Oh, wait, I do. Yep, I have that exact same rifle, except that it's not a machine gun like that one likely is (which is why that is an assault weapon and mine isn't).
And yes, she is clearly enjoying the benefits of being seen as enjoying that rifle. Considering her state of AZ, that photo probably helped her to get a good number of votes.
 
2013-03-26 01:30:16 PM  
What stupid biatches!  These girls just sat there holding the dog and didn't try to hard to grab the dog's mouth or throat, nothing!  Just plain stupid worthless crowbars!!!
 
2013-03-26 01:36:11 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Neither one is advocating a ban on handguns.
When he bought the AR-15 it was only to prove a point that the background checks aren't as bad as the NRA is making them out to be.
They are quick,unobtrusive and painless.


I am 100% fine with background checks, as long as certain conditions are met:

1) it is well thought out, and truly designed to separate the dangerous from the law abiding
2) it has provisions for allowing those with RO and involuntary mental hospital stay holds to petition for re-evaluation to get their rights restored in a timely manner
3) it does not place an undue financial or time burden on the buyer. I'm ok with paying up to $50 per BC for handguns, $25 for rifles. Multiple simultaneous purchaes should fall under the same single BC
4) nothing in the law should be cleverly disguised gun control legislation - ie., nothing like "BC can only be performed on guns that are on a certain special list that the manufacturer must pay $5,000 for each model of the gun to be on" (like in CA)
5) C&R guns should be exempt as long as the buyer holds an 03 License, as the 03 license entails a background check already and must be renewed periodically. (C&R - curio and relic, ranging from 1858 .45 long colt peacemaker revolvers to the 1952 CZ52 handgun)
 
2013-03-26 01:45:45 PM  

tylerdurden217: Why do law abiding citizens (or anyone really) need firepower that matches the police?


Because police aren't supposed to have fundamental rights different from those of citizens? Because their authority derives from the rights of citizens? No matter how much they object, they are only a civil force; they are neither military or paramilitary (gendarmy).

The question is: why do the police need firepower that matches the citizenry? Aren't they the good guys?
 
2013-03-26 02:14:55 PM  

ehahn: What stupid biatches!  These girls just sat there holding the dog and didn't try to hard to grab the dog's mouth or throat, nothing!  Just plain stupid worthless crowbars!!!


But, you know....   when something quick happens you don't know how to react some times.    It's confusing in the first two seconds.

Even if I was there,   (and say I happened to have a club in my hand per chance)  would I instinctively club the dog or the baby seal to death ????
 
2013-03-26 02:17:10 PM  

Magorn: Office Ninja:


It's currently far harder to buy a pitbull than a gun in most cities

so what was that asinine point you were trying to make?


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2013-03-26 02:19:55 PM  
It was his own dog, which doesn't make him much of a hero, as the fark headline implies.
 
2013-03-26 02:27:11 PM  
Most beaches in CA do not permit dogs (leashed or unleashed), so this will be a conundrum for them. Also, don't be a stupid dog owner. If you don't have the strength to manage your pet, stick to a goldfish.

*Would've been cool to see the astronaut stick around for the authorities to sort this out tho. AXE Spray is wrong.
 
2013-03-26 02:30:34 PM  

Office Ninja: Uranus Is Huge!: WhoopAssWayne: Office Ninja: He apparently has no problem with owning the very type of firearm (a handgun) that was used in nearly killing his wife but has a hard on for banning "assault" rifles which are overwhelmingly less responsible for annual deaths than handguns.

Yep, and then there's this:

[img401.imageshack.us image 308x394]

When it was politically expedient during an election, she was more than happy to associate herself with "assault" rifles.

So you're telling me that taking a bullet in the farking head might change one's opinion on gun control?

Who knew?

It apparently didn't change Kelly's opinion.  He is openly admitting to purchasing a .45 with the intent to keep it.


So,.. he buys a gun similar to the one that was used on his wife, but now is trying to make other kinds of guns illegal?   Makes sense to me.
 
2013-03-26 02:34:59 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Neither one is advocating a ban on handguns.
When he bought the AR-15 it was only to prove a point that the background checks aren't as bad as the NRA is making them out to be.
They are quick,unobtrusive and painless.


Hardly.  He was trying to say that the background check is worthless because he was able to buy a gun nobody needs,   *just like that*.

Personally, I dont see the point, if they arent going to bother arresting some ex-con from trying to buy a gun..etc.
 
2013-03-26 02:53:17 PM  
That was an amazingly pathetic attempt to get the dog to let go.... and WTF was with them yanking on the seal?  The dog wouldnt let go because it thought everybody was farking playing with it or some shiat.  Seriously, as soon as a dude with a clue went over there the dog released right away.

People are so farking useless.
 
2013-03-26 02:57:02 PM  
oh, and they for farking sure can afford obedience training... so... maybe they should get on that.
 
2013-03-26 03:29:57 PM  
People who fail to train their family dog for all situations are farking moronic assholes.

If you incapable of controlling your Pit Bull you should not even consider owning one.
 
2013-03-26 03:31:16 PM  
 
2013-03-26 03:51:30 PM  
American Bulldog:
desktopwallpaperswide.com

Pit Bull:

netdna4.greanvillepost.com

Two different breeds:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_an_American_bull-_dog_the_same_as_a_pit -b ull

That farking pit bull above looks scary...I would not approach it.
 
2013-03-26 03:54:00 PM  

tylerdurden217: dropdfun: Anything we have in law enforcement I believe the citizens of this country should have. We are not the military so if we need it then an ordinary sane citizen could possibly need it too as far as firearms are concerned.

Just a thought but his dog has now more confirmed kills then my personaly carry pistol.

That sounds like an arms race with police, which we already have. When the police are outgunned by citizens, they acquire bigger and more powerful weapons. The guns are manufactured at a prolific pace so there is an abundance on the private market.

Why do law abiding citizens (or anyone really) need firepower that matches the police?


More likely then not we as law enforcement are responding to situations after the fact. If I arrive to a situation that calls for the need of an M-4 to properly protect myself and quell whats going on then why shouldn't law abiding citizens be afforded the same with a civilian equivalent and what not before we can arrive?

I hate to say it but depending where and what time of day, responses by law enforcement can be over five minutes and thats a very conservative estimate, that seems like a lifetime if your outgunned and ill prepared.
 
2013-03-26 03:58:32 PM  
Gun causes harm. Has no central nervous system, no legs, no eyes, can't even move. Blame gun.

Dog causes harm. Has central nervous system, legs, eyes, moves. Blame owner.


Please reconcile these two statements, libs.
 
2013-03-26 04:05:17 PM  

ferretman: American Bulldog:
[desktopwallpaperswide.com image 552x695]

Pit Bull:

[netdna4.greanvillepost.com image 547x555]

Two different breeds:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_an_American_bull-_dog_the_same_as_a_pit -b ull

That farking pit bull above looks scary...I would not approach it.


So, although there are certain cosmetic and functional similarities that could cause the untrained eye to believe they are the same, they are actually two distinctly different members of a larger subgroup?  Now where have I heard that same argument before?
 
2013-03-26 04:05:30 PM  

Help_Me_I'm_Lost: *unhappy sigh*
Headline was much funnier when I mis-read it as

Gabby Gifford's husband pulls a mauling dog off a BABY at a California beach.

/I'm a sick %*$&, I know .  Let the bashing begin.


cdn.videogum.com
 
2013-03-26 04:06:08 PM  

USP .45: Gun causes harm. Has no central nervous system, no legs, no eyes, can't even move. Blame gun.

Dog causes harm. Has central nervous system, legs, eyes, moves. Blame owner.


Please reconcile these two statements, libs.


Very good argument, that being said please expect one of the following:
1) your comment will be ignored,
2) a response along the lines of "a dog cannot kill 20 innocent doe-eyed kindergarteners", or
3) a statement about a pancake on their head, thus your argument is invalid.
 
2013-03-26 04:17:52 PM  

HAMMERTOE: On November 22, 1963, the President was shot in the head in Dallas, TX. Did the country go on a rabid liberal witch-hunt of rifles? No.

Why not?


When a president is shot (which has happened before), you have a political problem.

When you have a short period of time that is full of an increasing number of gun massacres which culminates in over 20 schoolkids wiped out in one setting, you have a guns in society problem.
 
2013-03-26 04:21:38 PM  

theurge14: HAMMERTOE: On November 22, 1963, the President was shot in the head in Dallas, TX. Did the country go on a rabid liberal witch-hunt of rifles? No.

Why not?

When a president is shot (which has happened before), you have a political problem.

When you have a short period of time that is full of an increasing number of gun massacres which culminates in over 20 schoolkids wiped out in one setting, you have a guns in society problem.


FTFY
 
2013-03-26 04:29:17 PM  

Office Ninja: theurge14: HAMMERTOE: On November 22, 1963, the President was shot in the head in Dallas, TX. Did the country go on a rabid liberal witch-hunt of rifles? No.

Why not?

When a president is shot (which has happened before), you have a political problem.

When you have a short period of time that is full of an increasing number of gun massacres which culminates in over 20 schoolkids wiped out in one setting, you have a guns in society problem.

FTFY


Sorry, when discussing gun massacres we don't get to cross the word gun out.
 
2013-03-26 04:39:11 PM  

Godscrack: [blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com image 550x440]

Ah. Good ol' Tucson police. Interesting how they use the image of a Hispanic man as the 'bad guy'.

Welcome to Arizona.


Hispanic? Dopey me, I thought it was depicting Justin Bieber.
 
2013-03-26 04:45:51 PM  

theurge14: Office Ninja: theurge14: HAMMERTOE: On November 22, 1963, the President was shot in the head in Dallas, TX. Did the country go on a rabid liberal witch-hunt of rifles? No.

Why not?

When a president is shot (which has happened before), you have a political problem.

When you have a short period of time that is full of an increasing number of gun massacres which culminates in over 20 schoolkids wiped out in one setting, you have a guns in society problem.

FTFY

Sorry, when discussing gun massacres we don't get to cross the word gun out.


I guess you think the Holocaust was a giant Train problem huh?
 
2013-03-26 04:56:17 PM  

USP .45: Gun causes harm. Has no central nervous system, no legs, no eyes, can't even move. Blame gun.

Dog causes harm. Has central nervous system, legs, eyes, moves. Blame owner.


Please reconcile these two statements, libs.


Guns don't kill people....it's the gun powder in the shells that when ignited cause a sudden gas build-up, sending a projectile through a barrel.

So guns aren't the problem....gun powder is.
 
2013-03-26 05:13:10 PM  
Assault dog kills? Ok
Assault weapon? Not ok.
 
2013-03-26 05:31:11 PM  

ScouserDuck: theurge14: Office Ninja: theurge14: HAMMERTOE: On November 22, 1963, the President was shot in the head in Dallas, TX. Did the country go on a rabid liberal witch-hunt of rifles? No.

Why not?

When a president is shot (which has happened before), you have a political problem.

When you have a short period of time that is full of an increasing number of gun massacres which culminates in over 20 schoolkids wiped out in one setting, you have a guns in society problem.

FTFY

Sorry, when discussing gun massacres we don't get to cross the word gun out.

I guess you think the Holocaust was a giant Train problem huh?


I'm unaware of any Jews being tied to rails and run over in the 1930s, but I'm sure you already knew that.  Please continue with your attempts at the "guns don't kill people" bit.
 
2013-03-26 05:47:17 PM  
Meh, Gabby Giffords, blah, blah, blah.... who the hell cares.
 
2013-03-26 05:54:41 PM  

computerguyUT: Meh, Gabby Giffords, blah, blah, blah.... who the hell cares.


You care enough to post obviously.
 
2013-03-26 06:15:57 PM  
What is with ths family?

Do they even try to be normal?

Yet another reason to not believe anything they say.
 
2013-03-26 07:22:08 PM  

USP .45: Gun causes harm. Has no central nervous system, no legs, no eyes, can't even move. Blame gun.

Dog causes harm. Has central nervous system, legs, eyes, moves. Blame owner.


Please reconcile these two statements, libs.



There is entirely too much sound logic in this argument.  Please rescind yourself from this discussion.
 
2013-03-26 07:49:46 PM  
The seal isn't actually dead.

It merely suffered brain damage, and will spend the rest of it's life advocating  dog control.
 
2013-03-26 07:58:01 PM  

zipdog: ... so vote Democrat.


It sounds pathetic when you do it.
 
2013-03-26 08:28:15 PM  

LL316: An animal attacked another animal and this is a story?


Because you dont need a 65 pound dog as a pet. Thats just too much dog. We need a 7 round limit on dogs....I mean 7 POUND limit.
 
2013-03-26 09:02:31 PM  
He used his teeth?
 
2013-03-26 09:53:24 PM  
I don't think it's an issue of training necessarily.  I've had big dogs that you could trust with your newborn that would destroy smaller wild animals on sight.

You're supposed to leash your dog, not reprogram its DNA.  And they do have ways of getting away from you.
 
2013-03-26 10:19:45 PM  
And just like that, 10 million conservatives magically give a shiat about a protected species.
 
2013-03-27 02:49:23 PM  

wingnutx: The seal isn't actually dead.

It merely suffered brain damage, and will spend the rest of it's life advocating  dog control.


Newsletter? Subscription please.
 
2013-03-27 04:54:31 PM  

wingnutx: The seal isn't actually dead.

It merely suffered brain damage, and will spend the rest of it's life advocating  dog control.


Ditto--newsletter please.
 
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