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(Daily Mail)   Margaret Cho enraged after Korean spa forces her to cover up so she won't frighten other patrons with her body. Hey, she doesn't look that bad   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 41
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2013-03-26 01:49:39 AM  
5 votes:
I am happy in my skin and I am not sure what to say when others are not happy with my skin.

So happy, in fact, that you had to cover it in tattoos, all over, to show how much of a rebel and independent you are.  Why not change your name, while you're at it?  Maybe do something really eccentric with your hair, too, and don't forget the piercings - all to demonstrate to anyone who sees you how comfortable you are with being who you are, and you don't care what other people think.


blender61: the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.


That's exactly what she thinks.  Fierce Korean pride, but doing her best to offend everything that makes Korean culture what it is.
2013-03-26 01:36:24 AM  
4 votes:
the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.
2013-03-26 08:45:09 AM  
3 votes:
Don't you love seeing these full body tattoo people when they hit about age 50? Like someone laid an Archie comic book out in the sun for a month and splashed it with water a couple times.

Ooo, edgy.
2013-03-26 08:21:51 AM  
3 votes:
I know a woman who wanted to teach English in Korea. First question after getting through background and education stuff - Do you have visible tattoos?

If yes, you are not getting the job. People will not have their kids exposed to you.

I can't comprehend how Cho doesn't know better. Also the notion that they should adjust their culture to suit your shiatty ink is beyond me.
2013-03-26 08:10:25 AM  
3 votes:
She sucks, the whole of her comedy is:  my mother is traditionally Korean and I'm a whiny biatch, wanghhhh
2013-03-26 07:29:11 AM  
3 votes:

CPT.Goodlaw: I was following this too until I read the part of the spa being in Los Angeles.  I think it is reasonable for a blend of cultures to take place when one tradition takes root somewhere else.


Unlike sexual orientation and skin color, tattoos are a choice.  I think it's reasonable for a private organization to set their own friggin rules as long as they don't violate anyone's civil rights.
2013-03-26 07:26:34 AM  
3 votes:

CPT.Goodlaw: blender61: the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.

I was following this too until I read the part of the spa being in Los Angeles.  I think it is reasonable for a blend of cultures to take place when one tradition takes root somewhere else.


True enough.

However, you wouldn't go to a Jewish bakery and expect them to have deviled ham to schmear on your bagel, would you?

Also, it's not like she didn't have other spa choices.  She *CHOse* to go there, and unless she's completely tone deaf to the culture she was raised in, she should have known what the reaction was going to be.  I see her as being the unreasonable one here.
2013-03-26 04:01:13 PM  
2 votes:
My post saying she was a hag came because of all of these guys white knighting her saying she was pretty and then posting glamour shots so heavily shopped she looks inhuman.

She has made a career of being a loud mouth, a whiner, and hating on her own culture.  The tats were probably icing on the cake as an insult to traditional korean culture.

And what little attractiveness she does have is immediately lost by her behavior and attention whore attitude.

She was in a traditional spa, she should have shown some respect and put on the robe, instead she turned it into something about herself.

She is the Korean Andy Dick.
2013-03-26 03:01:34 PM  
2 votes:
Ok, so let's play a quick word swap game:

blender61: the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.


Hmmmmmmmm......

blender61: the bottom line is that being black carries a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in America.
they should know this, or do they think that an exception should be made for them because they are somehow special.


There we go.

Am I equating her experience in a bath house to years of slavery and the oppresion of an entire race of people till quite recently? No. Of course not.

Am I suggesting you sound like a close minded dolt who's mentality of "hey, that's just the way it is so you should STFU and go away" helps stagnate the evolution of the human race? Yeah. Yeah I am.
2013-03-26 01:55:20 PM  
2 votes:
I know there are a lot of deniers in here, so I'll just post a few pics.
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Haters be hatin'

/I see the irrational Fark Anti-tat Brigade is out in force
//go practice your zealotry somewhere else.  It's just skin, it's not sacred.  The argument is just about as stupid as complaining that you use your PC to view images you like.  "TV's aren't for that!  Sinner!  You're going to HELL!"  What the fark ever. Even if you don't happen to be religious, your views are born of the same bad logic.
///and you hipster tatoo snobs?  You are just as bad.  That goes for quality snobs and size snobs as well.


Meh, as to the article....

If it's a place of business and not a church, they should allow anyone.  Gay, tatoos, black, white etc.  I find it amazing how you people will stick up for the rights of gays or other races, vilify Westboro Baptists, yet turn around and side with other prejudices vilifying that which is different or "offensive"
/or do we have a bunch of gay haters/racists in here too?
//come on now, speak up...

Seriously, if skin color doesn't matter, why do tatoo's matter?

Answer: Because you hold an irrational belief.  You find them distasteful and attempt to formulate a "valid" reason to dislike them to the point where you fool yourself and you equate tatoos to IQ or something similarly retarded.  Same bigotry concealment/rationalization attempts that racists/sexists/etc use all of the time.

Do society a favor, find a really fast moving bus, or hell, even a car(60mph+ ), and try to halt it's movement with only the physical force of your genitals.
2013-03-26 11:25:50 AM  
2 votes:
Everyone is missing the point of the story: that there are spas where Korean women walk around naked. I would have thought the article would  have provided an example of what this might look like, and failing that, that Farkers might, but I would be wrong.
2013-03-26 11:24:27 AM  
2 votes:

neongoats: Don't you love seeing these full body tattoo people when they hit about age 50? Like someone laid an Archie comic book out in the sun for a month and splashed it with water a couple times.

Ooo, edgy.


You don't have to even wait until 50.  The tattoo art style will likely be dated within 10 years, just like tribal tats and barbed wire bicep tats have.  Everytime I see a 20 something with these stylized tat sleeves I think  " Congrats nitwit, you've just given yourself a permanent mullet".
2013-03-26 11:01:59 AM  
2 votes:
Margaret Cho is pretty funny.  Not the funniest person on the planet, but I enjoy her work.

There are a lot of prudes on Fark.  They are tattoos, get over it.
2013-03-26 10:09:14 AM  
2 votes:

theflatline: She looks like an aged hipster who has not done a day of exercise in her life, no muscle tone and pancake ass. Not to mention the pancake makeup. She really looks like an old asian crossdresser.

She can even fark up a glamor shot.


You know she used to have a career induced eating disorder right? How she was working out and dieting so much to the point (under the direction of a network, by the way, just so she could play herself) that her freakin kidneys collapsed on her one day. If she's genuinely happy with her body what business is it of yours?
2013-03-26 08:43:01 AM  
2 votes:

Crewmannumber6: She started out pretty funny until she decided to go 'Edgy', which she decided meant saying fark 4 times a sentence and talking about her pussy until people got uncomfortable.


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2013-03-27 05:20:29 PM  
1 votes:

manimal2878: Also, go to a spa that is not Korean you stupid whore.


She didn't complain "I can go to a spa"-- she complains "I went to this spa and look what happened this time". The point is that she grew up with has been to Korean spas before.

stainedglassdoll: blender61: the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.

Newsflash:  They are in America.  Not Korea.


This is it.  If there was a published rule or a sign posted to say anyone with visible tattoos cannot enter the water, she wouldn't have gone and this wouldn't have happened.

But if the spa is in Los Angeles and there was no mention of it when she arrived, entered, visited the changing rooms, etc...  this all just reads like bitter older women complaining that things aren't like in the Old Country.
2013-03-26 04:45:03 PM  
1 votes:

The Googles Do Nothing: When I grow up I'm going to get a tattoo of a butt, with a butt tattoo on it, on my butt!


Just get a life size tattoo of yourself and save some time.
2013-03-26 04:13:11 PM  
1 votes:

Caelistis: theflatline: She is the Korean Andy Dick.

I disagree. She's the Korean John Waters.


And I'd argue that she'd consider the latter a compliment.
2013-03-26 03:32:34 PM  
1 votes:

Crocodile Arms: Buttknuckle: InmanRoshi: neongoats: Don't you love seeing these full body tattoo people when they hit about age 50? Like someone laid an Archie comic book out in the sun for a month and splashed it with water a couple times.

Ooo, edgy.

You don't have to even wait until 50.  The tattoo art style will likely be dated within 10 years, just like tribal tats and barbed wire bicep tats have.  Everytime I see a 20 something with these stylized tat sleeves I think  " Congrats nitwit, you've just given yourself a permanent mullet".

Man, you should come over to my house for the Academy Awards.  I would love to hear your critique of the women's dresses each year.  You are gay, right?

So uh, is this how you normally find dudes to hook up with? I mean, I was always under the impression that gays were more efficient in their courtships, but damn.

/NTTAWWT


I'm sick of GRINDR.
2013-03-26 03:26:46 PM  
1 votes:

blender61: the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.


Newsflash:  They are in America.  Not Korea.
2013-03-26 03:25:43 PM  
1 votes:

darch: omeganuepsilon: stainedglassdoll: Virtual Pariah: Doesn't make any sense to me unless she's AW-ing.

She could have picked another spa pretty easily,
Why say you want to partake of a part of Korean culture when your raison d'etre is to rail against the majority of it.

Give her props for her charity work, but this was an obvious instigation.

I disagree.  Korean spas are very nice and probably have a range of services other spas might not.  If these services are what you grew up with and enjoy, I can see why one would want to go back.  If the spa really had a problem with tattoos, they would have an upfront sign about it.

If a man at the spa was tattooed, I am almost certain no one would say boo to him (I think she alludes to this as much in TFA).  Furthermore, I think if she had been white, or any other race besides Korean, people would would have been content to whisper behind her back.  I am positive the old ladies complained because she spoke in Korean to them and they realized she could understand them and call them out on their crap (think back to that episode of Seinfeld at the Korean nail salon).  Old Korean ladies can be very mean.

/korean, born and raised in korea

This.

culture =/= religion

For example, it is typically considered discrimination if you deny service based on religion or lack-thereof.  That is part of US culture.

Unless the tatoo consisted of hate speech, there's no real reason for a place that allows nudity to ask certain individuals to cover up.

Yes there is- it's a PRIVATE BUSINESS. They can exclude anyone they want.

I constantly have to explain this to drunk assholes who cannot FATHOM how it is that they're not being allowed into a bar/club.


this hasn't been true since the Civil Rights Act of 1964, because "private businesses" are also, often "public accomodations"
2013-03-26 03:23:44 PM  
1 votes:
fark threads: where people do the exact thing they denigrate others for.
2013-03-26 03:21:05 PM  
1 votes:

darch: omeganuepsilon: stainedglassdoll: Virtual Pariah: Doesn't make any sense to me unless she's AW-ing.

She could have picked another spa pretty easily,
Why say you want to partake of a part of Korean culture when your raison d'etre is to rail against the majority of it.

Give her props for her charity work, but this was an obvious instigation.

I disagree.  Korean spas are very nice and probably have a range of services other spas might not.  If these services are what you grew up with and enjoy, I can see why one would want to go back.  If the spa really had a problem with tattoos, they would have an upfront sign about it.

If a man at the spa was tattooed, I am almost certain no one would say boo to him (I think she alludes to this as much in TFA).  Furthermore, I think if she had been white, or any other race besides Korean, people would would have been content to whisper behind her back.  I am positive the old ladies complained because she spoke in Korean to them and they realized she could understand them and call them out on their crap (think back to that episode of Seinfeld at the Korean nail salon).  Old Korean ladies can be very mean.

/korean, born and raised in korea

This.

culture =/= religion

For example, it is typically considered discrimination if you deny service based on religion or lack-thereof.  That is part of US culture.

Unless the tatoo consisted of hate speech, there's no real reason for a place that allows nudity to ask certain individuals to cover up.

Yes there is- it's a PRIVATE BUSINESS. They can exclude anyone they want.

I constantly have to explain this to drunk assholes who cannot FATHOM how it is that they're not being allowed into a bar/club.


And she is aloud to biatch about them.
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2013-03-26 02:45:59 PM  
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: Haters be hatin'


That's because she's fugly. And not very funny.
2013-03-26 02:44:06 PM  
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: stainedglassdoll: Virtual Pariah: Doesn't make any sense to me unless she's AW-ing.

She could have picked another spa pretty easily,
Why say you want to partake of a part of Korean culture when your raison d'etre is to rail against the majority of it.

Give her props for her charity work, but this was an obvious instigation.

I disagree.  Korean spas are very nice and probably have a range of services other spas might not.  If these services are what you grew up with and enjoy, I can see why one would want to go back.  If the spa really had a problem with tattoos, they would have an upfront sign about it.

If a man at the spa was tattooed, I am almost certain no one would say boo to him (I think she alludes to this as much in TFA).  Furthermore, I think if she had been white, or any other race besides Korean, people would would have been content to whisper behind her back.  I am positive the old ladies complained because she spoke in Korean to them and they realized she could understand them and call them out on their crap (think back to that episode of Seinfeld at the Korean nail salon).  Old Korean ladies can be very mean.

/korean, born and raised in korea

This.

culture =/= religion

For example, it is typically considered discrimination if you deny service based on religion or lack-thereof.  That is part of US culture.

Unless the tatoo consisted of hate speech, there's no real reason for a place that allows nudity to ask certain individuals to cover up.


Yes there is- it's a PRIVATE BUSINESS. They can exclude anyone they want.

I constantly have to explain this to drunk assholes who cannot FATHOM how it is that they're not being allowed into a bar/club.
2013-03-26 12:10:40 PM  
1 votes:

Buttknuckle: Man, you should come over to my house for the Academy Awards. I would love to hear your critique of the women's dresses each year. You are gay, right?


Oh, you got me.  You inferred that I might be homosexual.  Man, you really burned me.

Congrats for putting it upon yourself to prove that the stereotype of the tribal tattoo is almost assuredly  the hallmark of a mouth-breather.  Must be a heavy cross to bear.
2013-03-26 11:46:29 AM  
1 votes:

Sybarite: Comedian Margaret Cho

"Comedian"


How the fark she made a career out of "I like buttsex and my mom talks funny!" is beyond me.
2013-03-26 11:45:39 AM  
1 votes:

ModernLuddite: I used to work with a Korean guy who would shiat himself when he saw my tattoos. Now I understand why.

//Came for photos of Korean women.
///Leaving dissapointed.


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Whatever floats your boat, pal.
2013-03-26 11:01:15 AM  
1 votes:
Meh, she got all these tattoos to get attention and to be a social outsider.  She's loving every second of this.   The only sad part is that the traditional spa is feeding into this, instead of treating tattoos like the boring Mom Jeans they are.
2013-03-26 10:59:05 AM  
1 votes:
Her ink is fine, it's the face that needs to covered up.
2013-03-26 10:14:44 AM  
1 votes:
I just wanted to join in the hate parade.

Margaret Cho sucks. She's not funny and was never funny.

I hereby request that we rename when a comedian fails onstage from "bombing" to "Cho-ing". They bombed, they Cho'd.
2013-03-26 10:02:21 AM  
1 votes:

Marquis de Sod: mikey15: not a fan of the ink but she is smokin' hot and funny.
About 20 years ago she did an HBO special wearing a leather jump suit and no bra she seemed stoned outta her Kim-chi crock but yikes she was hot.

Finally, the lone voice of reason in this thread full of idiots


She looks like an aged hipster who has not done a day of exercise in her life, no muscle tone and pancake ass.  Not to mention the pancake makeup.  She really looks like an old asian crossdresser.

She can even fark up a glamor shot.

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2013-03-26 08:34:08 AM  
1 votes:
She started out pretty funny until she decided to go 'Edgy', which she decided meant saying fark 4 times a sentence and talking about her pussy until people got uncomfortable.
2013-03-26 08:30:40 AM  
1 votes:
Remarkably unfunny woman.
2013-03-26 08:23:36 AM  
1 votes:
I'm always amazed when people with tattoos are SHOCKED that it is looked down upon by others.
2013-03-26 08:22:35 AM  
1 votes:

LL316: If you remove the ink, she'd be pretty.


No she wouldn't.  She still has that smashed korean face that many korean women seem to have, where 90% of her face is cheeks.
2013-03-26 08:16:09 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I'll never understand the need for people to get full-body tattoos. I have a small tribal tattoo around my upper arm that women seem to love. I doubt they'd like it if it were a huge sleeve or back tattoo.


I'll never understand the need for people to get small tribal tattoos.  I have no tattoos and the women seem to love my bare body.  I doubt they would like me if I had tribal tattoos or other small tattoos.
2013-03-26 08:14:01 AM  
1 votes:
Also, go to a spa that is not Korean you stupid whore.
2013-03-26 08:13:34 AM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: However, you wouldn't go to a Jewish bakery and expect them to have deviled ham to schmear on your bagel, would you?


No, but I also wouldn't expect them to make me wear a yarmulke in there either.
2013-03-26 07:31:03 AM  
1 votes:
"...Margaret Cho has revealed how she was forced to..."
and
"...[The manager] asked if I could please wear something..."

Sounds like yellow journalism to me.

/in more ways than one.
2013-03-26 05:22:05 AM  
1 votes:

blender61: the bottom line is that tattoos carry a cultural connotation that is unacceptable in Korea.
she should know this, or does she think that an exception should be made for her because she is somehow special.


I was following this too until I read the part of the spa being in Los Angeles.  I think it is reasonable for a blend of cultures to take place when one tradition takes root somewhere else.
 
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