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(CBS Sports)   Gay NFL player may be considering coming out. Wait, I thought Gay was released by the Saints in 2011   (cbssports.com) divider line 58
    More: Interesting, NFL, Chris Culliver, Brendon Ayanbadejo, Scott Fujita, Chris Kluwe, Eric Winston, Rashad Evans, Steve Tisch  
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2013-03-26 07:42:24 AM  
This is news?
 
2013-03-26 07:45:41 AM  
I'm betting Kluwe or Ayanbadejo.
 
2013-03-26 07:53:04 AM  
Whoever the brave soul is I hope he does it soon. I think it would be a boon to gay marriage battles across the country. IN 40 years there will be documentaries about his reveal and how it helped turn the tide in favor of marriage rights.
 
2013-03-26 07:53:25 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: I'm betting Kluwe or Ayanbadejo.


So if you support gay rights, you're probably gay?

The reports are that the player isn't staying in the closet because of their teammates, it's because of the external backlash.  Someone who would stay in the closet because of that wouldn't be putting themselves out there as a gay rights advocate.
 
2013-03-26 07:54:28 AM  

qsblues: This is news?


This, for two reasons: First, there is nothing material here to report, just speculation. And secondly, who gives a shiat? "I'm gay and I play in the NFL!"  Congrats. All I care about is what happens on the field. Blow anything you want except coverage.
 
2013-03-26 07:56:38 AM  
I always figured the NFL would be one of the last leagues for this to happen.

Figure the NHL will be one of the first, given the large number of players from Canada and Europe, where homosexuality is less culturally stigmatized. And given the active support for gay rights from many players and executives, including Brian Burke.
 
2013-03-26 08:01:07 AM  

Larry Mahnken: So if you support gay rights, you're probably gay?


Just seems like the safest bet. They do have an awful lot to say about the matter. Smeller's the feller after all.
 
2013-03-26 08:05:02 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: They do have an awful lot to say about the matter.


Yes, because people who want to keep something concealed spend a great deal of time talking about the thing they're concealing.
 
2013-03-26 08:06:08 AM  

WinoRhino: This, for two reasons: First, there is nothing material here to report, just speculation. And secondly, who gives a shiat? "I'm gay and I play in the NFL!"  Congrats. All I care about is what happens on the field. Blow anything you want except coverage.


Completely agree with you, however, this is the United States we're talking about. It WILL be a media frenzy. I honestly hope that it doesn't affect anything in the locker room (I'm sure there will be some static at first), however, the guy has a career to think about, and the frenzy it will inevitably create, will impact that career some way. So while I support him in coming out, and I really hope he does soon, I can see why he's a bit hesitant.
 
2013-03-26 08:14:00 AM  

t3knomanser: Yes, because people who want to keep something concealed spend a great deal of time talking about the thing they're concealing.


Could be their way of testing the waters. Run it up the flag pole and see who salutes. And again, it's a prediction, not an accusation, so feel free to lighten up a bit. I'm sensing a lot of drama here. Heh.
 
2013-03-26 08:14:59 AM  
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2013-03-26 08:27:15 AM  

t3knomanser: WhoopAssWayne: They do have an awful lot to say about the matter.

Yes, because people who want to keep something concealed spend a great deal of time talking about the thing they're concealing.


It actually can be a very tell tale sign, though it's usually in the process of reaction formation. Fred Phelps for example protests US soldiers' funerals with signs condemning teh gheys, because he wants to sleep with them. It's the only way he knows how to express his inner desires.
 
2013-03-26 08:31:16 AM  
When it happens, and it will, the player will have more problems from fans than from inside the league or other players.
 
2013-03-26 08:31:42 AM  
probably be Manti teo. In couple months is the draft, once he is drafted he will come out.
 
2013-03-26 08:37:00 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: I'm betting Kluwe or Ayanbadejo.


You mean besides the whole "Kluwe being married with two kids" thing?
 
2013-03-26 08:39:47 AM  

digistil: t3knomanser: WhoopAssWayne: They do have an awful lot to say about the matter.

Yes, because people who want to keep something concealed spend a great deal of time talking about the thing they're concealing.

It actually can be a very tell tale sign, though it's usually in the process of reaction formation. Fred Phelps for example protests US soldiers' funerals with signs condemning teh gheys, because he wants to sleep with them. It's the only way he knows how to express his inner desires.


That's why I would figure it could be Matt Birk, although he retired.  Maybe Tebow?
 
2013-03-26 08:47:03 AM  
Tebow would be HILARIOUS, but unlikely given that it would ruin his Football Jesus side gig.
 
2013-03-26 08:47:24 AM  

TonnageVT: I honestly hope that it doesn't affect anything in the locker room (I'm sure there will be some static at first),


There will be a little commotion in the locker room, although nothing too major. That locker room's full of drama already.

And Cowboys fans will still accept him as their quarterback.
 
2013-03-26 09:01:55 AM  

t3knomanser: WhoopAssWayne: They do have an awful lot to say about the matter.

Yes, because people who want to keep something concealed spend a great deal of time talking about the thing they're concealing.


What are you hiding?
 
2013-03-26 09:10:28 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Just seems like the safest bet. They do have an awful lot to say about the matter. Smeller's the feller after all.


I'm as straight as they come. My best friend is gay. I'm a big supporter of gay rights. Go figure.

Bareefer Obonghit: t3knomanser: WhoopAssWayne: They do have an awful lot to say about the matter.

Yes, because people who want to keep something concealed spend a great deal of time talking about the thing they're concealing.

What are you hiding?


Ha ha, good question!
 
2013-03-26 09:14:23 AM  
I wonder if any league has a situation like what's rumored in NASCAR. If you ask around there are a couple drivers who are gay and basically everyone in the pits knows, but they keep it quiet so to avoid any brouhaha with the fans and a few sponsors, but apparently the drivers and such have no problem with it.
 
2013-03-26 09:16:11 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: I'm betting Kluwe or Ayanbadejo.


I'm putting my money on the opposite stereotype; It's GOTTA be Chris Culliver.

/would LOVE to see Dungy's son come out
 
2013-03-26 09:19:20 AM  

WhyteRaven74: I wonder if any league has a situation like what's rumored in NASCAR. If you ask around there are a couple drivers who are gay and basically everyone in the pits knows, but they keep it quiet so to avoid any brouhaha with the fans and a few sponsors, but apparently the drivers and such have no problem with it.


I'm beting it's because there is no physical contact between NASCAR drivers during the race.  If there is, chances are it's in a horrendous crash.

UNC_Samurai: /would LOVE to see Dungy's son come out


Zombie Dungy?
/too soon?
 
2013-03-26 09:19:49 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I'm putting my money on the opposite stereotype


Urlacher?
 
2013-03-26 09:26:19 AM  
There's probably a lot of gay NFL players. There's been rumors around Green Bay about some, that's for sure
 
2013-03-26 09:29:35 AM  

qsblues: I'm beting it's because there is no physical contact between NASCAR drivers during the race.


Could be it but I'm willing to bet it's for the same reason you find plenty of other places where people accept it, because the people involved are smart and can see past the end of their own noses. Despite the hokey perception NASCAR drivers are a pretty smart bunch generally.
 
2013-03-26 09:36:42 AM  

qsblues: WhyteRaven74: I wonder if any league has a situation like what's rumored in NASCAR. If you ask around there are a couple drivers who are gay and basically everyone in the pits knows, but they keep it quiet so to avoid any brouhaha with the fans and a few sponsors, but apparently the drivers and such have no problem with it.

I'm beting it's because there is no physical contact between NASCAR drivers during the race.  If there is, chances are it's in a horrendous crash.

UNC_Samurai: /would LOVE to see Dungy's son come out

Zombie Dungy?
/too soon?


I was thinking about the one that he still has.  But a revelation that his son's depression was amplified by not wanting to come out to his father?  Hooboy, that would be a shiatstorm.
 
2013-03-26 09:43:08 AM  

machoprogrammer: There's probably a lot of gay NFL players. There's been rumors around Green Bay about some, that's for sure


i.ytimg.com

I kid.
Seriously, it would be amazing if someone did come out.
 
2013-03-26 09:43:25 AM  

WhyteRaven74: qsblues: I'm beting it's because there is no physical contact between NASCAR drivers during the race.

Could be it but I'm willing to bet it's for the same reason you find plenty of other places where people accept it, because the people involved are smart and can see past the end of their own noses. Despite the hokey perception NASCAR drivers are a pretty smart bunch generally.


I'd bet that it's more the backlash from the NASCAR fans that would keep a driver in the closet.  I can't imagine too many NASCAR fans buying t-shirts and memorabilia of a gay driver or supporting that driver's sponsors.  They aren't the most enlightened or accepting people.

Not that football fans are terribly enlightened, but they generally root for teams over players.  But if a star player came out of the closet I doubt anyone would give a damn, they'd still buy and wear his jersey.
 
2013-03-26 10:07:04 AM  
But I thought European football was supposed to be the gay one?
 
2013-03-26 10:16:08 AM  

Doc Daneeka: I always figured the NFL would be one of the last leagues for this to happen.

Figure the NHL will be one of the first, given the large number of players from Canada and Europe, where homosexuality is less culturally stigmatized. And given the active support for gay rights from many players and executives, including Brian Burke.


My money is on the NBA to be the last league, given that a large percentage of players grew up playing on beat-up courts in bad parts of various towns.

/Obviously not all of them
//Looking forward to the day when this isn't an issue
 
2013-03-26 10:39:54 AM  
media.npr.org

Feels the joy of god all over his face...
 
2013-03-26 10:44:59 AM  

UNC_Samurai: /would LOVE to see Dungy's son come out

 
2013-03-26 10:45:42 AM  

buckeyebrain: UNC_Samurai: /would LOVE to see Dungy's son come out


Dammit, GIF was too large.  Was trying to post the "I love my dead gay son" thing.
 
2013-03-26 11:18:51 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Not that football fans are terribly enlightened, but they generally root for teams over players.  But if a star player came out of the closet I doubt anyone would give a damn, they'd still buy and wear his jersey.


Even if they didn't, there are still 51* other players on the team whose jersey they could buy, so it wouldn't really impact the profits brought in by jersey sales. I don't know how it works in NASCAR, though: is licensing handled by the series or by the teams? IE, if Jimmie Johnson finally came out and fans stopped buying stuff with the 48 on it, would that specifically affect the Hendrick bottom line, or just NASCAR as a whole?

*: Okay, not 51... don't see anyone picking up the long snapper's jersey anytime soon.
 
2013-03-26 11:29:21 AM  
Whoa this will be just like Jackie Robinson, but totally different, and not at all like it and nobody will care.
 
2013-03-26 11:32:01 AM  

JayCab: don't see anyone picking up the long snapper's jersey anytime soon.


The "Factory of Sadness" guy begs to differ.
 
2013-03-26 12:27:24 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Larry Mahnken: So if you support gay rights, you're probably gay?

Just seems like the safest bet. They do have an awful lot to say about the matter. Smeller's the feller after all.


I support civil rights no matter who it is for- people don't have to be gay to empathize with gay people.  It's pretty easy, actually- you just think "What if the situation were reversed, and I had to live like this?"  Boom, empathy.
 
2013-03-26 12:45:45 PM  
Is somebody actively recruiting to find this brave openly gay hero?
 
2013-03-26 12:48:57 PM  
WhoopAssWayne: Larry Mahnken: So if you support gay rights, you're probably gay?

Just seems like the safest bet. They do have an awful lot to say about the matter. Smeller's the feller after all.

I support civil rights no matter who it is for- people don't have to be gay to empathize with gay people. It's pretty easy, actually- you just think "What if the situation were reversed, and I had to live like this?" Boom, empathy.


I t hink the poster is making the point that whenever somebody comes out strongly against gay rights, it's because they're obviously gay, and pointing out that hypocrisy that if somebody is going to come out strongly FOR gay rights, well then, wouldn't the concept of symmetry suggest it's because that person is gay as well?

But the trolling is pretty damn good, I must say.
 
2013-03-26 01:00:44 PM  
cartermatt.com

*Trendsetters*
 
2013-03-26 01:10:07 PM  
I'd think that the first gay player could end up getting sponsorships just because they're the first. It seems like we're near enough the point where for someone who isn't already a household name to become so without too much backlash.
 
2013-03-26 01:15:19 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Larry Mahnken: So if you support gay rights, you're probably gay?

Just seems like the safest bet. They do have an awful lot to say about the matter. Smeller's the feller after all.


Except that analogy only works for people COMPLAINING about something. As in "the most adamantly and vocally against gay rights probebly have a secret same-sex lover they are ashamed of hiding".

So failed analogy is failed.

/troll attempt obviously is 9/10 though
//even if I responded to the stupidity of your analogy, not the stupidity of your statment as a whole
///of which there is PLENTY of stupidity to be going on with
 
2013-03-26 02:33:25 PM  
Doc Daneeka

I always figured the NFL would be one of the last leagues for this to happen.

Figure the NHL will be one of the first, given the large number of players from Canada and Europe, where homosexuality is less culturally stigmatized. And given the active support for gay rights from many players and executives, including Brian Burke.

   As someone who grew up around hockey; played until 14, my dad worked for a junior b team in Saskatchewan.....I was blown away by the "You Can Play" ads, my direct experience with hockey was that it was as homophobic as it gets....I think society in general is waking up and that has helped with acceptance....that said, you would know more about the football culture and, to me, it would take someone like Klewe's stand on the issue to the next level....good on whomever it is.

/ Burke, maybe not my favorite GM ever, but much respect for the man
 
2013-03-26 02:41:46 PM  

mikaloyd: Is somebody actively recruiting to find this brave openly gay hero?


that's why they were asking the question.  Preferential treatment.

/eh that borders politics trolling on my part.
 
2013-03-26 03:20:58 PM  
THIS is the one that gets greenlit? Not my "Please be tim tebow" one? FEH!
 
2013-03-26 05:56:24 PM  
I just want to know which odds maker is making a betting market?
 
2013-03-26 06:17:58 PM  
I vote Cromartie
 
2013-03-26 06:19:49 PM  
I can deal with gays in the military. But gays in football is just WRONG.
 
2013-03-26 06:34:19 PM  
Romo rhymes with gay..

/I keed.
 
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