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2013-03-26 08:53:49 AM  
Psssh, the Cartoon Network 5 minute episodes were better.

/The episode with the introduction of General Grievous was crazy
 
2013-03-26 09:03:10 AM  
That's Mr. Mouse to you.
 
2013-03-26 09:11:31 AM  
I've only seen the first two seasons, but my most favorite episode is the one where Asoka has her lightsaber taken and she had to get it back. I loved the jedi master she was with and hoped they would bring him back.
 
2013-03-26 09:39:26 AM  
FTFA:  It's hard enough keeping the suspense on a show where we know that most of the main characters must survive.

And there it is.  That's why the show consistently fails to be great.  Why not strike out to any other point in the SW timeline where the writers can have some freedom?
 
2013-03-26 09:43:00 AM  

JonZoidberg: FTFA:  It's hard enough keeping the suspense on a show where we know that most of the main characters must survive.

And there it is.  That's why the show consistently fails to be great.  Why not strike out to any other point in the SW timeline where the writers can have some freedom?


Apparently not that hard, since they accomplish it quite nicely.  Or are there scenes in Episodes 4, 5, and/or 6 with Asoka?
 
2013-03-26 10:08:20 AM  
I try to get my friends that like Star Wars to watch this show.  Some of the best Star Wars since the original trilogy.  Episodes I, II, and III have left a bad taste in some peoples' mouths that they wont give this a chance.  Also the preconceived notion that since it's on Cartoon Network on Saturday morning it's a kids show.  Not at all!
 
2013-03-26 10:08:50 AM  

LL316: JonZoidberg: FTFA:  It's hard enough keeping the suspense on a show where we know that most of the main characters must survive.

And there it is.  That's why the show consistently fails to be great.  Why not strike out to any other point in the SW timeline where the writers can have some freedom?

Apparently not that hard, since they accomplish it quite nicely.  Or are there scenes in Episodes 4, 5, and/or 6 with Asoka?


I have predicted in another Clone Wars thread that she'll get held in some kind of stasis and be discovered in episode 7.  We'll see. But you're right, she hasn't appeared in the films so there is a sense of suspense when she's in a saber fight.  What about every time they "almost" kill Grievous, Dooku, or Obi-Wan?  How exciting.
 
2013-03-26 10:15:50 AM  

Richard_The_Clown: I've only seen the first two seasons, but my most favorite episode is the one where Asoka has her lightsaber taken and she had to get it back. I loved the jedi master she was with and hoped they would bring him back.


What happens to her to explain why she isn't mentioned even once in the prequels?  Something awesome, right?
 
2013-03-26 10:43:38 AM  
I haven't seen season 5, but the blog hit all the right episodes as far as I can tell.
 
2013-03-26 11:02:15 AM  

wildstarr: Episodes I, II, and III have left a bad taste in some peoples' mouths that they wont give this a chance.


Pretty much this. I have heard from a fair amount of people that the cartoon is actually pretty decent, but after the joke of a prequel trilogy I stopped caring about anything before A New Hope. I grew up loving Star Wars, but dang if I don't even care anymore...
 
2013-03-26 11:04:04 AM  

born_yesterday: Richard_The_Clown: I've only seen the first two seasons, but my most favorite episode is the one where Asoka has her lightsaber taken and she had to get it back. I loved the jedi master she was with and hoped they would bring him back.

What happens to her to explain why she isn't mentioned even once in the prequels?  Something awesome, right?


i think he either has to kill asoka or she betrays him so bad he doesnt want to even talk about her.. but what ever it is.. will lead anakin deeper into the dark side
 
2013-03-26 11:08:09 AM  

AntonChigger: Psssh, the Cartoon Network 5 minute episodes were better.

/The episode with the introduction of General Grievous was crazy


No. No they weren't.
I have them on DVD and on re-watching them, they don't hold up.
Besides, watching the Clone Wars I fully realized, the animation is the 3D version of those cartoons.

/Innocents of Ryloth was the best trilogy since the Star Wars trilogy.
 
2013-03-26 11:10:14 AM  

JonZoidberg: I have predicted in another Clone Wars thread that she'll get held in some kind of stasis and be discovered in episode 7.  We'll see. But you're right, she hasn't appeared in the films so there is a sense of suspense when she's in a saber fight.  What about every time they "almost" kill Grievous, Dooku, or Obi-Wan?  How exciting.


It's the other characters you get attached to that you don't know about.  Rex, for example...we still don't know his fate.  Many of the named clone troopers had their own personalities, and sometimes ones you liked died.  Waxer, for example, introduced in Landing at Point Rain...when he's killed it's not just another clone trooper.  Or Echo, who was in the episode Rookies...

The show also went a long way to making Anakin an actual hero, something the films failed at spectacularly.  It showed Obi-Wan's human side, and just how treacherous and conniving Palpatine could be.  Even though you know the fate of these characters, the show added some of the missing flavor from the movies.  My only complaint was they really made Anakin too much of a hero sometimes, to the point that it is hard to accept that he would turn to the dark side considering all he has seen.  Leave the Jedi, maybe, but become a Sith?  It doesn't seem likely with what he's seen of Dooku, Ventress, and the rest.  They also really didn't show Palpatine taking Anakin under his wing as much as he was supposed to have.

I was hoping Asohka would die, and that would be a catalyst for Anakin to go dark, but it didn't happen, and her leaving seems again more like a wedge between Anakin and the council than really pushing him to the dark side.
 
2013-03-26 11:18:36 AM  

wildstarr: I try to get my friends that like Star Wars to watch this show.  Some of the best Star Wars since the original trilogy.  Episodes I, II, and III have left a bad taste in some peoples' mouths that they wont give this a chance.  Also the preconceived notion that since it's on Cartoon Network on Saturday morning it's a kids show.  Not at all!


Nope. I loved the animated shorts that were done. Gave the CGI-fest a go but i guess i caught it at a bad time. Asoka came off as being a highly annoying mary-sue character. Stopped watching it after her second or third appearance. I've heard she's gotten better to stomach though so who knows
 
2013-03-26 11:32:22 AM  

JonZoidberg: LL316: JonZoidberg: FTFA:  It's hard enough keeping the suspense on a show where we know that most of the main characters must survive.

And there it is.  That's why the show consistently fails to be great.  Why not strike out to any other point in the SW timeline where the writers can have some freedom?

Apparently not that hard, since they accomplish it quite nicely.  Or are there scenes in Episodes 4, 5, and/or 6 with Asoka?

I have predicted in another Clone Wars thread that she'll get held in some kind of stasis and be discovered in episode 7.  We'll see. But you're right, she hasn't appeared in the films so there is a sense of suspense when she's in a saber fight.  What about every time they "almost" kill Grievous, Dooku, or Obi-Wan?  How exciting.


I often found that my greatest fear when the established characters were put in mortal peril was how established continuity (and stories I liked) might get messed up.

/Still absolutely love this series, though
 
2013-03-26 11:36:06 AM  

Dr. Whoof: JonZoidberg: I have predicted in another Clone Wars thread that she'll get held in some kind of stasis and be discovered in episode 7.  We'll see. But you're right, she hasn't appeared in the films so there is a sense of suspense when she's in a saber fight.  What about every time they "almost" kill Grievous, Dooku, or Obi-Wan?  How exciting.

It's the other characters you get attached to that you don't know about.  Rex, for example...we still don't know his fate.  Many of the named clone troopers had their own personalities, and sometimes ones you liked died.  Waxer, for example, introduced in Landing at Point Rain...when he's killed it's not just another clone trooper.  Or Echo, who was in the episode Rookies...

The show also went a long way to making Anakin an actual hero, something the films failed at spectacularly.  It showed Obi-Wan's human side, and just how treacherous and conniving Palpatine could be.  Even though you know the fate of these characters, the show added some of the missing flavor from the movies.  My only complaint was they really made Anakin too much of a hero sometimes, to the point that it is hard to accept that he would turn to the dark side considering all he has seen.  Leave the Jedi, maybe, but become a Sith?  It doesn't seem likely with what he's seen of Dooku, Ventress, and the rest.  They also really didn't show Palpatine taking Anakin under his wing as much as he was supposed to have.

I was hoping Asohka would die, and that would be a catalyst for Anakin to go dark, but it didn't happen, and her leaving seems again more like a wedge between Anakin and the council than really pushing him to the dark side.


Fleshing out the characters is the biggest contribution to the Star Wars canon.  The prequels probably would have been better served by cutting and combining Episodes I and II, with a movie covering the Clone Wars.  As it is, movie Anakin is just a terrible, whiny character.  It isn't until the TV series that we actually get a sense of the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin.

There's still a chance of getting some closure on characters like Ashoka and Rex.  Apparently Season 6 is mostly in the can, and they're just deciding how to release it.  The contract with Cartoon Network was only for five years.  Disney doesn't seem to want CN to have the show for a sixth year.  The obvious thing would be to put it on one of the Disney stations, but they don't want to have to run a whole ad campaign about the move just for the sake of a single season.  The most likely outcome will be editing the episodes into feature-length specials according to the story arcs.  They could then air on a Disney network, Cartoon Network, or straight-to-DVD as specials.
 
2013-03-26 11:44:22 AM  
i couldnt get over anakin's padawan jabba palace dancer chick calling him "sky guy".

although maybe i should give it another shot... sounds like it got better as it went.
 
2013-03-26 11:44:48 AM  
bluraymedia.ign.com

Still the best.
 
2013-03-26 11:57:46 AM  

Clone Wars is hit or miss. When it's bad, it's amazingly bad, but when it's good it's awesome.


The last 3 episodes of Season 5 were incredible.

* SPOILER ALERT*




I still can't believe how badly the Jedi Council treated Ashoka. I don't blame her for leaving the Order.

/I hope that the Mouse doesn't cancel this show.
//I've got a bad feeling about this.

 
2013-03-26 12:07:28 PM  
Umm, the show has already been cancelled.

Season 5 was the end of it.

There may be direct to video movies, but this storyline is over otherwise.
 
2013-03-26 12:22:20 PM  

NeoCortex42: Fleshing out the characters is the biggest contribution to the Star Wars canon.  The prequels probably would have been better served by cutting and combining Episodes I and II, with a movie covering the Clone Wars.  As it is, movie Anakin is just a terrible, whiny character.  It isn't until the TV series that we actually get a sense of the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin.


Matt Lanter is ten times the Anakin Hayden Christiansen was.

James Taylor was also awesome as Obi-Wan, and while Ewan McGregor was also great, Taylor brought a lot to the role.

And as for Ashley Eckstein as Asohka....here she is in a TARDIS dress, just because:
ww1.prweb.com

/I'd stare into her Time Vortex, if you know what I mean.
 
2013-03-26 12:29:05 PM  
Compared to Young Justice, it was a kids' show, and a mediocre one at that. But they both got cancelled, so it's all irrelevant.
 
2013-03-26 12:29:37 PM  
Let us not pretend for a moment that Lucas managed his franchise in a way that was beneficial to anyone.  Including him.  Handing it over to The Mouse is the best thing that could happen to it.
 
2013-03-26 12:30:00 PM  
Two things:

The show is canceled. Done. Kaput.

It was a good cartoon if you were in its target demographic of 12-16 years old. Otherwise, I hope you like wincing.
 
2013-03-26 12:33:26 PM  
I can't watch a full 22 minute episode of art that bad. I've been trying since reboot, but I feel a sort of embarrassed pain at how terribly stiff the characters are and inflexible the medium is. Even Loony Toons had better art for expressing characters' emotions, movement, and a world with consistent mood. CGI cartoons are a waste.
 
2013-03-26 12:33:34 PM  

swahnhennessy: Two things:

The show is canceled. Done. Kaput.

It was a good cartoon if you were in its target demographic of 12-16 years old. Otherwise, I hope you like wincing.


You do realize that the Star Wars movies had the same demographics, right?
 
2013-03-26 12:53:29 PM  

swahnhennessy: It was a good cartoon if you were in its target demographic of 12-16 years old. Otherwise, I hope you like wincing.


Why are you posting... Matlock is on!
 
2013-03-26 12:55:51 PM  
I'm in the camp of "The Gendy micro series was far better." They actually knew how to inspire fear when Grievous first showed up, Those episodes were intense, the saber combat was fast and furious and they really knew how to use Grievous' cyborg parts. Hell they even made the ARC troopers bigger badasses than the Jedi.
 
2013-03-26 01:41:43 PM  
Disappointed in the cancellation of 'Clone Wars' and 'Young Justice' (Why?!?). No more good cartoons to watch on the weekends. :(

/Until the Avengers starts again, assuming that hasn't been cancelled as well...
 
2013-03-26 02:06:40 PM  

ferretman: Disappointed in the cancellation of 'Clone Wars' and 'Young Justice' (Why?!?). No more good cartoons to watch on the weekends. :(

/Until the Avengers starts again, assuming that hasn't been cancelled as well...


Uhhhh....
 
2013-03-26 02:28:08 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: I can't watch a full 22 minute episode of art that bad. I've been trying since reboot, but I feel a sort of embarrassed pain at how terribly stiff the characters are and inflexible the medium is. Even Loony Toons had better art for expressing characters' emotions, movement, and a world with consistent mood. CGI cartoons are a waste.


They actualy stated they were going for a kind of Gerry Anderson "Thunderbirds" feel to the show. They wanted to kind of invoke that you are watching marionettes.
 
2013-03-26 02:33:29 PM  
Also, the Green Lantern series knew what it could and couldn't do w/ CGI. That was also a good show canceled before its time. But at least Cartoon Network can still put out Incredible Crew...
 
2013-03-26 02:37:42 PM  
No.
 
2013-03-26 03:33:36 PM  

Dr. Whoof: ferretman: Disappointed in the cancellation of 'Clone Wars' and 'Young Justice' (Why?!?). No more good cartoons to watch on the weekends. :(

/Until the Avengers starts again, assuming that hasn't been cancelled as well...

Uhhhh....


god-damn farkers......
 
2013-03-26 03:47:42 PM  
It's a shame so many people are dead-set against giving the show a chance. It became great. It was what the prequels should have been.

And for all those people who say "I can't watch it because I know what happens to everyone in the end." --- What a dumb reason for not reading/watching/enjoying something! Are you telling me you don't watch any historical fiction because you know the ultimate fate of the characters? You don't watch horror movies because you know almost everyone is going to die? You don't watch Star Trek because you know the red shirt is a goner and Kirk will win in the end? You wouldn't watch a Sherlock Holmes show or movie because you know when and how Holmes will die? KILL BILL was pointless because you knew, from the title, that Bill would be killed?

I just don't get that mindset. Knowing Abraham Lincoln gets his brains blown out at the theater by Booth doesn't change how interesting the story of his life is. A story isn't just the ending-- It's the how you get there, and what you do before that ending that matters.

Yes, we know what happens with Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Sidious, Windu, Grievous, Padme, R2, 3PO, and a half-dozen other characters. But do you know what happened to them before then? Do you know what happened to people who they associated with? Do you know what happened to people who were loosely tied to them? Do you know HOW they got to the end-point you saw in Revenge of the Sith?

And you're saying the HOW isn't interesting because the end was all you cared to know? How boring.

Why even bother watching Back To The Future II and III, then? In the end, Marty gets back to his time. Everything in-between doesn't matter, right? The story's end is obvious and foretold, so all that happens in the other two movies are little details that don't interest a person who already knows Marty gets back to the Future.

Why watch a movie about the Donner Party? Everybody dies. Who cares how? Right? The story's been spoiled because you know what happens.

Here's a news flash: We won World War II.  You can now skip watching any war movies that might come along.

Another one: Mozart died after living a life of being a composer-genius. You may now skip watching "Amadeus" and ignore the Academy Awards and amazing performances within. Who cares about all those details about what happened before he died? In the end it doesn't matter because you already know the outcome! You've heard his music, you know he's dead! WHY BOTHER?!?!?

I'm sorry, but THIS IS STUPID. If details bore you, then you just don't get the point of storytelling. Knowing the ultimate fate of a character does not make them unworthy of having stories told about them.
 
2013-03-26 03:56:12 PM  
Never cared much for the Genndy Clone Wars (sad as that makes me, because I LOVED Samurai Jack). It was just too goofy over-the-top, and considering the prequels it arose from, that's really saying something.

The CGI  TheClone Wars series though, just made of awesome. Yes everybody (even fans) know the movie sucked (which was never meant to be a movie, it was four episodes stitched together), and so did a good number of the episodes of the first season. How many shows can you think of that actually had a  good first season? You can probably count 'em on one hand.

But after that first season, the show just got better and better. It became the thing that everyone  wanted and was expecting from the prequel films in the first place, before we went down that ghastly Episode I, II, (and to a lesser extent) III road.


And TFA author is pretty much spot-on in his choices.
 
2013-03-26 03:57:08 PM  
I've been waiting for Asohka to die. That's all I want out of the whole Clone War.

I just want to know what "happens" to Asohka.
 
2013-03-26 04:35:03 PM  

kumanoki: I've been waiting for Asohka to die. That's all I want out of the whole Clone War.

I just want to know what "happens" to Asohka.


she quits the order, stops being openly jedi, survives order 66, stays under cover for episodes 4-6 and shows up in post-rebellion books written after the clone wars series started.

frankly, there were a ridiculous number of jedi masters that successfully went into hiding only to be revealed in the later books. they basically had a shake-bake jedi army for the yuuzan vhong invasion except while they were in hiding all the old jedis turned into space-hippies.
 
2013-03-26 04:38:59 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: kumanoki: I've been waiting for Asohka to die. That's all I want out of the whole Clone War.

I just want to know what "happens" to Asohka.

she quits the order, stops being openly jedi, survives order 66, stays under cover for episodes 4-6 and shows up in post-rebellion books written after the clone wars series started.

frankly, there were a ridiculous number of jedi masters that successfully went into hiding only to be revealed in the later books. they basically had a shake-bake jedi army for the yuuzan vhong invasion except while they were in hiding all the old jedis turned into space-hippies.


So she gets old?
She has little to no interest in 'liberating' her former master from the clutches of the Emperor?
Mon Mothma doesn't space-call her to be a major player in the Rebellion?

God dammit I have prequel crap.
 
2013-03-26 04:46:59 PM  

msupf: Umm, the show has already been cancelled.

Season 5 was the end of it.

There may be direct to video movies, but this storyline is over otherwise.


Im hoping theres a nice box set coming with all the seasons, maybe some extras.
 
2013-03-26 05:02:03 PM  

kumanoki: God dammit I have prequel crap.


Ewww.  Take A LOT of Imodium.
 
2013-03-26 05:19:27 PM  
kumanoki:

God dammit I have prequel crap.

I think we all had a case of that after The Phantom Menace
 
2013-03-26 05:21:32 PM  
*hate

But hey, it works either way.

/sorry for the nasty mental image
//not really
///poop
 
2013-03-26 05:39:54 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: kumanoki: I've been waiting for Asohka to die. That's all I want out of the whole Clone War.

I just want to know what "happens" to Asohka.

she quits the order, stops being openly jedi, survives order 66, stays under cover for episodes 4-6 and shows up in post-rebellion books written after the clone wars series started.



Is that last part conjecture on your part? I hadn't read or heard anything about her after the Clone Wars series.

You're probably right, by the way...just wanted to know if something slipped pass my obsessive EU reading streak I've been on lately.
 
2013-03-26 05:41:01 PM  

kumanoki: So she gets old?


Presumably, yes.

She has little to no interest in 'liberating' her former master from the clutches of the Emperor?

How would she know he was in the clutches of the Emperor?  Anakin Skywalker was dead.  Darth Vader, as far as anyone knew, was someone else. Only Kenobi and Yoda knew the truth.

Mon Mothma doesn't space-call her to be a major player in the Rebellion?

She left the Order and vanished to who knows where.  It's a big galaxy.  I don't think one leaves a forwarding address when leaving their old life behind.

As to why she didn't oppose the Empire, there's lots of possible reasons, including literally being away from any sort of news.  She could have gotten lost out on the far rim, and only heard about the Empire in rumors.

Alternatively, Anakin knows she is out there...there may be a story of him hunting her down as Vader to once again make her his apprentice...his Sith apprentice this time.  And if she refused...well, there's your reason why she's not in the original trilogy.
 
2013-03-26 05:42:58 PM  

Nickster79: Is that last part conjecture on your part?


She has not shown up in any post-Clone Wars stories yet.  Her ultimate fate is still up in the air.  We know how her tenure as a Jedi ends, but nothing else so far.
 
2013-03-26 05:52:57 PM  
Dr. Whoof:
Alternatively, Anakin knows she is out there...there may be a story of him hunting her down as Vader to once again make her his apprentice...his Sith apprentice this time.  And if she refused...well, there's your reason why she's not in the original trilogy.

Good lord that is that a story I would love to see/read.
 
2013-03-26 05:54:49 PM  

AntonChigger: Psssh, the Cartoon Network 5 minute episodes were better.

/The episode with the introduction of General Grievous was crazy


Sort of fitting, since the cartoon version of Boba Fett was how the fans got their introduction. Also ties in to explain why Greivous was wheezing a lot (getting Force-squeezed in the chest by Mace Windu will fark you up like that).

Also baffled as to the fact that was never any Rule 34 of any Nelvaan babes from that show. Internet, you let me down.
 
2013-03-26 06:12:11 PM  

TV's Vinnie: AntonChigger:(getting Force-squeezed in the chest by Mace Windu will fark you up like that).


getting force anything'd by mace windu(tartakovsky series) would fark you up pretty bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF3ocZu4cZo case in point. quite possibly some of the most badass animation you're likely to watch today.
 
2013-03-26 07:46:20 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: TV's Vinnie: AntonChigger:(getting Force-squeezed in the chest by Mace Windu will fark you up like that).

getting force anything'd by mace windu(tartakovsky series) would fark you up pretty bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF3ocZu4cZo case in point. quite possibly some of the most badass animation you're likely to watch today.


That is how I always figured Jedi would fight. Instead we get some waving of lightsabers versus small groups of enemies instead of lifting up most of the legion so the clones can have target practice.

You have people who can shoot lightning from their fingertips yet won't use that in battle? Right.
 
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