LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of pplIf what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.
SRD: The second allows us to own similar arms to the average soldier. I choose to exercise it. Gun violence is down 50 percent and continues to fall.
whidbey: GUTSU: As we all know home invasions, muggings, and rapes NEVER happen, EVERSo what's the big deal? Keep something at home to protect yourself. Overcompensating with a basement arsenal isn't necessary. And yeah, we have the right as a society to make such a determination.
The Name: pedrop357: The Name: pedrop357: The existing laws cover the behavior and don't stop it, so let's add a second law that will have the same noneffect?So we already have mandatory universal background checks for all sales and transfers, with stiff penalties for noncompliance?We have laws about straw purchases (which is where most guns used in crime come from), and laws about transferring to people known to be felons and they have stiff penalties.Oh, well we should do the thing I suggested.
BGates: POS liberal media making something out of nothing.
ChuDogg: STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE! TELEPHONING PEOPLE AFFECTED BY A MASS MURDER ASKING THEM TO SUPPORT A GROUP WHOSE POLICIES WOULD HELP CREATE MORE MASS MURDERS!!!!111!
Lionel Mandrake: pedrop357: fusillade762: Insensitive and tone deaf? The NRA??Or the ACLU.wat?Was this a pathetic attempt at trolling, or just plain pathetic?
pedrop357: The "well regulated" portion does not restrict or confine the right to bear arms and you know it. "Well regulated" was used differently then compared to now and applied to the composition and training of the militia. You have to know that too.
davidphogan: When members of your community start testifying about federal legislation that's a risk that should be accepted.
pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of pplIf what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.
BeowulfSmith: Boo farking hoo. So, the civil rights group the focuses on protecting the Second Amendment is trying to rally support to oppose legislation that is in direct violation of the amendment their entire organization was founded to protect? Those monsters.Seriously, this is the most ridiculous grandstanding I have ever seen on the parts of these politicians and on the parts of a good portion of the comments above. You think there are no gun rights supporters in Connecticut? That because this tragedy happened, magically every person in Connecticut who doesn't agree with further gun bans lose their rights to hear an opposing view point? That the NRA and their state affiliates lose their rights of free speech?Feel free to disagree with the statements made by the NRA. Feel free to donate money to politicians and political groups that oppose the NRA. But don't you dare suggest that we should be silencing people because you've decided their political speech is distasteful. There is literally nothing more un-American than that (well, I suppose other than, you know, throwing people into concentration camps because of their ethnicity, like FDR did, or depriving people of their civil liberties, like most of the South did under Jim Crow... two excellent examples of why giving the government more power often doesn't have positive effects for the general populace).So, get your panties unbunched and get off your ass and do something the right way for once. Campaign to pass an amendment to the Constitution nullifying the Second Amendment once and for all, so then you can pass whatever restrictions or outright bans you want. Until then, quit using the bully pulpit to push for unconstitutional limitations to American civil liberties. Whether you agree with them or not, they exist. The more you weaken them, the less protection everyone has against government intrusion into our lives (PATRIOT Act, for example).
firefly212: That said, you'd have to be one of those mental patients to not see that selling guns without background checks is just nuts... the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places, that should anger the fark out of any responsible gun owner.
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