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2013-03-25 06:16:54 PM  
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-03-25 06:38:13 PM  
"NAMBLA has members, contributors, and supporters in Pennsylvania who expect us to do our jobs and keep them abreast of developments on the legislative front in their state," Kid E. Diddler, NAMBLA's director of public affairs, said in a statement about the calls. "We can be just as tone deaf in Happy Valley as the NRA is in Newtown."
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-03-25 06:57:53 PM  
lol at jbc
 
2013-03-25 07:04:25 PM  
I got the NRA robo-call.  I'm in CT, but not even near Newtown.  I took the call when I saw the caller ID because I was never more hoping for a live marketing caller in my life.
 
2013-03-25 08:13:30 PM  
Classy bunch, that NRA.
 
2013-03-25 09:27:18 PM  
I have a baseball bat under my bed. Seems adequate and easier to use.

/apple pie
//kosher dogs
 
2013-03-25 09:50:27 PM  
I'm guessing Paul Christoforo has a new job working for the NRA.
 
2013-03-25 09:50:35 PM  
I happen to own what most people would regard as an excessive number of large caliber and capacity and rate of fire weapons.  My wife got a call a couple weeks ago from the NRA telling her that Obama was going to take my guns away.  She was like, "Thank God".

They hung up like scalded rats for some reason.
 
2013-03-25 09:51:39 PM  
Insensitive and tone deaf? The NRA??
 
2013-03-25 09:52:03 PM  
Really??  Really?

Really?


Reaaaaaeeeaaalllllyyy???
 
2013-03-25 09:54:50 PM  
I've said it before, I'll say it again. I'm a gun owner and Second Amendment advocate. As a gun owner, I understand the responsibility and maturity it takes to safely own and use a firearm.

Typical wingnut behavior is  not a demonstration of either.
 
2013-03-25 09:54:50 PM  
Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl
 
2013-03-25 09:55:01 PM  
I got a robocall from the NRA a month ago here in CO... the thing is, they want me to give them money to fight against background checks... I actually agree with them that the AWB is stupid and that magazine sizes are generally irrelevant.... but I'm not going to give money to a crazy ass group that thinks people should be able to buy guns with less difficulty than it takes for me to get Claritin D. The realities with respect to gun crime are that handguns account for the VAST majority of gun crimes, they don't have particularly large magazines to start with, and we, as a nation, have worked diligently over the last 30 years to turn mental health cases out onto the streets because conservatives thought people were freeloading by living in inpatient mental health facilities even though they didn't have money. We made it far easier to get guns than to get mental healthcare, and we're farking insane if we expect any other result. That said, you'd have to be one of those mental patients to not see that selling guns without background checks is just nuts... the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places, that should anger the fark out of any responsible gun owner.
 
2013-03-25 09:57:58 PM  

fusillade762: Insensitive and tone deaf? The NRA??


Or the ACLU.
 
2013-03-25 09:58:44 PM  
Boo farking hoo. So, the civil rights group the focuses on protecting the Second Amendment is trying to rally support to oppose legislation that is in direct violation of the amendment their entire organization was founded to protect? Those monsters.

Seriously, this is the most ridiculous grandstanding I have ever seen on the parts of these politicians and on the parts of a good portion of the comments above. You think there are no gun rights supporters in Connecticut? That because this tragedy happened, magically every person in Connecticut who doesn't agree with further gun bans lose their rights to hear an opposing view point? That the NRA and their state affiliates lose their rights of free speech?

Feel free to disagree with the statements made by the NRA. Feel free to donate money to politicians and political groups that oppose the NRA. But don't you dare suggest that we should be silencing people because you've decided their political speech is distasteful. There is literally nothing more un-American than that (well, I suppose other than, you know, throwing people into concentration camps because of their ethnicity, like FDR did, or depriving people of their civil liberties, like most of the South did under Jim Crow... two excellent examples of why giving the government more power often doesn't have positive effects for the general populace).

So, get your panties unbunched and get off your ass and do something the right way for once. Campaign to pass an amendment to the Constitution nullifying the Second Amendment once and for all, so then you can pass whatever restrictions or outright bans you want. Until then, quit using the bully pulpit to push for unconstitutional limitations to American civil liberties. Whether you agree with them or not, they exist. The more you weaken them, the less protection everyone has against government intrusion into our lives (PATRIOT Act, for example).
 
2013-03-25 09:58:53 PM  
Anyone who robocalls deserves to be kneecapped.
 
2013-03-25 09:59:19 PM  

firefly212: . the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places, that should anger the fark out of any responsible gun owner.


If you're in the business of selling guns, you have to have a license and do checks.

If you're just selling your private collection, it's no different than selling any other object that is protected by the constitution whether it's books, cameras, video games, etc.
 
2013-03-25 09:59:23 PM  

firefly212: That said, you'd have to be one of those mental patients to not see that selling guns without background checks is just nuts... the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places, that should anger the fark out of any responsible gun owner.


Congratulations. According to the NRA, you're a gun grabber.
 
2013-03-25 09:59:54 PM  
Town residents say the automated calls from the NRA began last week and urge people to tell their state legislators to oppose gun control proposals.

Just what realistic purpose does an automated calling machine have in modern America? Why the hell does anyone need to be able to place calls as fast as the machine can dial? This shiat is frightening. What, one call a day isn't enough? Their penis so small that they need to compensate with these "robocalls?" Look, they love their high calling capacity so much that they fetishize it with some mechanical name. Disgusting.
 
2013-03-25 10:00:20 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl


If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.
 
2013-03-25 10:01:24 PM  
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!!111!
 
2013-03-25 10:01:33 PM  

BeowulfSmith: Boo farking hoo. So, the civil rights group the focuses on protecting the Second Amendment is trying to rally support to oppose legislation that is in direct violation of the amendment their entire organization was founded to protect? Those monsters.

Seriously, this is the most ridiculous grandstanding I have ever seen on the parts of these politicians and on the parts of a good portion of the comments above. You think there are no gun rights supporters in Connecticut? That because this tragedy happened, magically every person in Connecticut who doesn't agree with further gun bans lose their rights to hear an opposing view point? That the NRA and their state affiliates lose their rights of free speech?

Feel free to disagree with the statements made by the NRA. Feel free to donate money to politicians and political groups that oppose the NRA. But don't you dare suggest that we should be silencing people because you've decided their political speech is distasteful. There is literally nothing more un-American than that (well, I suppose other than, you know, throwing people into concentration camps because of their ethnicity, like FDR did, or depriving people of their civil liberties, like most of the South did under Jim Crow... two excellent examples of why giving the government more power often doesn't have positive effects for the general populace).

So, get your panties unbunched and get off your ass and do something the right way for once. Campaign to pass an amendment to the Constitution nullifying the Second Amendment once and for all, so then you can pass whatever restrictions or outright bans you want. Until then, quit using the bully pulpit to push for unconstitutional limitations to American civil liberties. Whether you agree with them or not, they exist. The more you weaken them, the less protection everyone has against government intrusion into our lives (PATRIOT Act, for example).


They don't focus on protecting the second amendment... they focus on idiocy, stopping background checks, donating money to ALEC to fight against gay marriage and for lower corporate income taxes... the idea that the NRA is about gun rights is about as naive as thinking NAMBLA is about love, not rape.
 
2013-03-25 10:01:35 PM  

pedrop357: fusillade762: Insensitive and tone deaf? The NRA??

Or the ACLU.


wat?

Was this a pathetic attempt at trolling, or just plain pathetic?
 
2013-03-25 10:02:09 PM  
Oh my, would you look at all these possible law violations the NRA might be responsible for that the government somehow overlooked.

/twist their arm for this shiat
 
2013-03-25 10:02:55 PM  

pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.


Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.
 
2013-03-25 10:04:13 PM  

LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.


No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms
 
2013-03-25 10:04:40 PM  
Would the NRA be upset at this phrases in response:

"Praise Allah. We need high capacity rounds to defend ourselves from these crazy Christians".

"Now we can safely go to Mosque and if a fat white man tries to accost our children, we can shoot him 30 times per each of our guns and all within 10 seconds."

"Can you send some large NRA banners? We could display them on the roadside of our homes and Mosques".
 
2013-03-25 10:05:11 PM  

pedrop357: fusillade762: Insensitive and tone deaf? The NRA??

Or the ACLU.


Stop picking on Helen Keller.
 
2013-03-25 10:05:21 PM  

pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms


Which amendment specifically mentions being "Well-regulated" besides the Second?
 
2013-03-25 10:06:10 PM  

firefly212: the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places


Selling a few guns privately is legal.   Dealing large numbers of firearms without a license is a felony.
The problem with UBC is they plan to make everything done without government permission a felony, which greatly affects alot of law abiding gun owners. Raising prices and complicating transfers.
Since the government has been in the habit of giving guns away and turning a blind eye to straw purchasers and corrupt dealers, the fact is this law is written to ensnare people like you and me.Not the guy with a trunk full of guns.

/But really, this is the internet era. Who still uses robo-calls?
 
2013-03-25 10:07:50 PM  

way south: /But really, this is the internet era. Who still uses robo-calls?


Connecticut's all old people. Old people vote. And they have landlines and don't trust those new fangled 'puters that their children put into their house.
 
2013-03-25 10:08:18 PM  

LordJiro: pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms

Which amendment specifically mentions being "Well-regulated" besides the Second?


0/10

The "well regulated" portion does not restrict or confine the right to bear arms and you know it.  "Well regulated" was used differently then compared to now and applied to the composition and training of the militia.  You have to know that too.

E for effort.
 
2013-03-25 10:08:34 PM  
Well that was D-U-M dumb.

/"You so stupid!!"
 
2013-03-25 10:08:34 PM  
Just for the record, I turned in my 2 AR-15s, My AR-10, and my two hand guns to the police.  I couldn't live with them anymore.  Too dangerous.
 
2013-03-25 10:08:53 PM  

firefly212: I got a robocall from the NRA a month ago here in CO... the thing is, they want me to give them money to fight against background checks... I actually agree with them that the AWB is stupid and that magazine sizes are generally irrelevant.... but I'm not going to give money to a crazy ass group that thinks people should be able to buy guns with less difficulty than it takes for me to get Claritin D. The realities with respect to gun crime are that handguns account for the VAST majority of gun crimes, they don't have particularly large magazines to start with, and we, as a nation, have worked diligently over the last 30 years to turn mental health cases out onto the streets because conservatives thought people were freeloading by living in inpatient mental health facilities even though they didn't have money. We made it far easier to get guns than to get mental healthcare, and we're farking insane if we expect any other result. That said, you'd have to be one of those mental patients to not see that selling guns without background checks is just nuts... the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places, that should anger the fark out of any responsible gun owner.


Good rant, but it needs more carriage returns.

Much like the NRA (Swype suggested bra, which I'd also accept) needs better list cleansing Newtown sounds like they should accept that the incident in their town has been politicized by forces inside and outside of the community, and they might want to be ready to deal with that.

When members of your community start testifying about federal legislation that's a risk that should be accepted.
 
2013-03-25 10:09:12 PM  

pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms


Speech?

Assembly?

Illegal search?
 
2013-03-25 10:09:19 PM  

way south: firefly212: the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places

Selling a few guns privately is legal.   Dealing large numbers of firearms without a license is a felony.
The problem with UBC is they plan to make everything done without government permission a felony, which greatly affects alot of law abiding gun owners. Raising prices and complicating transfers.
Since the government has been in the habit of giving guns away and turning a blind eye to straw purchasers and corrupt dealers, the fact is this law is written to ensnare people like you and me.Not the guy with a trunk full of guns.

/But really, this is the internet era. Who still uses robo-calls?


It turns out old people are the people that vote in the highest numbers consistently. Guess which demographic also still takes a large number of phone calls and even still have landlines?
 
2013-03-25 10:09:26 PM  

ChuDogg: way south: /But really, this is the internet era. Who still uses robo-calls?

Connecticut's all old people. Old people vote. And they have landlines and don't trust those new fangled 'puters that their children put into their house.


yeah, fark old people.  I can't wait until they die.
 
2013-03-25 10:09:39 PM  
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

But now that the U.S. has its own army, the militia is no longer needed, so no more guns for you. Please head down to your local recycling center and turn them all in and you get a free cookie.
But if you don't want to tun them in, President Obama is setting up some "freedom lover" communes in a couple of States that will take your guns as soon as you enter. I think 'Citidel' was the name of one of them.

/Glory be to Glenn Beckistani.
 
2013-03-25 10:10:08 PM  

pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms


Maybe because the right to a speedy trial pretty much can't injure anyone
 
2013-03-25 10:10:53 PM  

davidphogan: When members of your community start testifying about federal legislation that's a risk that should be accepted.


Yeah, if you testify in front of a federal hearing, you should be willing to be intimidated.
 
2013-03-25 10:11:52 PM  

Hack Patooey: pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms

Speech?

Assembly?

Illegal search?


How many background checks or forms do you have to undergo to have a protest?  How many laws are there restricting bullhorns, sign making materials, etc.?

What about laws restricting containers designed to be concealed, burglar resistant doors/windows, encryption software, etc. all of which can be used to evade lawfully authorized searches?
 
2013-03-25 10:11:54 PM  

pedrop357: The "well regulated" portion does not restrict or confine the right to bear arms and you know it. "Well regulated" was used differently then compared to now and applied to the composition and training of the militia. You have to know that too.


So you're arguing for a "living" constitution?  How Liberal of you!
 
2013-03-25 10:12:47 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
"Conservatives have little ability
to understand the concerns of others"
 
2013-03-25 10:12:51 PM  

phalamir: pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms

Maybe because the right to a speedy trial pretty much can't injure anyone


That's only relevant if you think that the people drafting the 2nd amendment had no idea that arms could be lethal.
 
2013-03-25 10:13:01 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: pedrop357: fusillade762: Insensitive and tone deaf? The NRA??

Or the ACLU.

wat?

Was this a pathetic attempt at trolling, or just plain pathetic?


I don't think it's a coincidence you can rearrange the first four letters of his handle to spell "Derp".
 
2013-03-25 10:13:24 PM  

pedrop357: How many background checks or forms do you have to undergo to have a protest?  How many laws are there restricting bullhorns, sign making materials, etc.?

What about laws restricting containers designed to be concealed, burglar resistant doors/windows, encryption software, etc. all of which can be used to evade lawfully authorized searches


Again, the first isn't "well-regulated" and speech doesn't generally kill people.
 
2013-03-25 10:13:47 PM  

way south: firefly212: the idea that you could quite literally sell guns out of your trunk in person to person transactions with no paperwork at all... and that it is legal in many places

Selling a few guns privately is legal.   Dealing large numbers of firearms without a license is a felony.
The problem with UBC is they plan to make everything done without government permission a felony, which greatly affects alot of law abiding gun owners. Raising prices and complicating transfers.
Since the government has been in the habit of giving guns away and turning a blind eye to straw purchasers and corrupt dealers, the fact is this law is written to ensnare people like you and me.Not the guy with a trunk full of guns.

/But really, this is the internet era. Who still uses robo-calls?


I'd like the system to at least be available to private sellers/buyers.  The last thing I'd want on my conscience was knowing I'd sold one of my guns to a raging nutcase/felon who has a burning desire to fill his ex-girlfriend full of holes.  And If I was buying, it'd be nice to be assured that the gun hadn't been used in a crime.  I'm not sure how the background check system can be made available to the general public without compromising people's privacy, though.
 
2013-03-25 10:14:06 PM  

ChuDogg: STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKETELEPHONING PEOPLE AFFECTED BY A MASS MURDER ASKING THEM TO SUPPORT A GROUP WHOSE POLICIES WOULD HELP CREATE MORE MASS MURDERS!!!!111!


ftfy.
 
2013-03-25 10:14:16 PM  

pedrop357: phalamir: pedrop357: LordJiro: pedrop357: JolobinSmokin: Good for them, gun owners are an oppressed group of ppl

If what's done to the 2nd amendment were done to any other enumerated or unenumerated right, the people wishing to exercise those rights would consider it oppression.

Yep, NO right is restricted in any way! That argument is in no way absolute bullshiat.

Gun nuts would be taken a little more seriously if they'd pull themselves off their goddamn crosses. For TOUGH MANLY SHOOTIN MEN, they do seem like a bunch of whiny pussies.

No right is as restricted as the right to bear arms

Maybe because the right to a speedy trial pretty much can't injure anyone

That's only relevant if you think that the people drafting the 2nd amendment had no idea that arms could be lethal.


I think mainly they couldn't predict repeating or automatic arms easily accessed by the general public.

The founders weren't gods or seers.
 
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