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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   Sad: dad dies after car accident. Hero: though unsuccessful, nine year old daughter attempted to find help in time to save him. BMF: which meant hiking two miles out of a coyote infested canyon in 40-degree weather in the middle of the night   (ajc.com) divider line 64
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2013-03-25 03:14:30 PM
One bad ass kid! Good for you
 
2013-03-25 03:18:56 PM
Acton is a small town tucked in the mountains between Los Angeles and the Mojave Desert.

The Long 15? That kid is pretty brave.
 
2013-03-25 05:34:44 PM
"Coyoteinfested?" Really subby?

/good for her
 
2013-03-25 05:34:56 PM
Wow.  That's awful.
 
2013-03-25 05:36:20 PM
The coyotes said that she was delicious!
 
2013-03-25 05:37:55 PM
p.bfram.es

/I am a horrible person.
 
2013-03-25 05:40:50 PM

Voiceofreason01: "Coyoteinfested?" Really subby?

/good for her


Yeah, coyotes scare me less than little old ladies.... The rest of it is very impressive, though. I'm gonna have to one-up this girl and roll my car when my daughter's 7, so she can be cooler. Otherwise, this girl is going to wear the "Impressive" crown for quite awhile. I hope she doesn't end up blaming herself in the long run for not getting help in time, it's a sad side effect of tragedies like this. I blamed myself for years for my mother's death, but would not have been able to actually do anything, it took a long time to not feel at least partly responsible.
 
2013-03-25 05:41:35 PM
She should've asked the coyotes for help. Sure, sometimes they're carrying drugs and are jumpy / stabby, but often they're only leading a pack of cheap laborers. Surely a bunch of illegals would help the little girl and her dad before fading into the groves to pick fruit.
 
2013-03-25 05:43:29 PM
Cecilia, you're breaking my heart
 
2013-03-25 05:43:33 PM
Man, this poor kid will always feel a little bit of guilt over this. What a tragedy.
 
2013-03-25 05:44:13 PM
 
2013-03-25 05:44:21 PM
Poor guy, he was only here to have the wrecks American's are too lazy too have.

The kid had lots of training, she managed to get across our border.

/she must have had help from coyotes in the past.
 
2013-03-25 05:45:18 PM
Years down the road, perhaps one Christmas morning when she's opening gifts with her family, wrapped up in a cozy blanket next to a warm crackling fire with a nice cup of hot cocoa, I hope she remembers that she just left her father to die in a cold, coyote-infested canyon.
 
2013-03-25 05:45:52 PM

Mikey1969: Voiceofreason01: "Coyoteinfested?" Really subby?

/good for her

Yeah, coyotes scare me less than little old ladies.... The rest of it is very impressive, though. I'm gonna have to one-up this girl and roll my car when my daughter's 7, so she can be cooler. Otherwise, this girl is going to wear the "Impressive" crown for quite awhile. I hope she doesn't end up blaming herself in the long run for not getting help in time, it's a sad side effect of tragedies like this. I blamed myself for years for my mother's death, but would not have been able to actually do anything, it took a long time to not feel at least partly responsible.


One coyote isn't a problem. The problem is, they usually travel in packs of anywhere from 5-10 animals. 5 coyotes could probably take a little girl
 
2013-03-25 05:46:20 PM
Give her a steak.

Oh, wait... "daughter," not "dachshund."  Damned glasses!
 
2013-03-25 05:47:02 PM
Good thing temps were in the 40s, otherwise she'd have to deal with rattlers, in which case the term "infested" would have made much more sense.
 
2013-03-25 05:48:42 PM
She told her family she was saddened to learn her father did not survive the crash.

Saddened?

My father did not survive the crash? I'm saddened to hear this
 
2013-03-25 05:51:06 PM

Bullroarer_Took: She should've asked the coyotes for help. Sure, sometimes they're carrying drugs and are jumpy / stabby, but often they're only leading a pack of cheap laborers. Surely a bunch of illegals would help the little girl and her dad before fading into the groves to pick fruit.


Sometimes they offer sage advice, indeed.

media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-25 05:51:38 PM
middle of the night on a remote desert highway. So... running drugs, or people???
 
2013-03-25 05:51:48 PM
If she needs money from the interweb, now would be the time to bring it up.  Seriously though, what a brave and smart little girl.
 
2013-03-25 05:53:31 PM

Gilligann: She told her family she was saddened to learn her father did not survive the crash.

Saddened?

My father did not survive the crash? I'm saddened to hear this


Did you need to hear the details of her anguish?
Were her tears salty enough to satisfy your taste?
 
2013-03-25 05:53:51 PM
She did all she could do - from an earlier article (I dnr this one) he was driving home from a party drunk at 1am and crashed - hope many people let her know nothing about any of this is her fault.

/coyotes usually end up falling off of cliffs or having a cinder block fall on their heads - she was in no danger
//meep meep
 
2013-03-25 05:56:39 PM
Liam Neeson not Impressed

www.cultture.com
 
2013-03-25 05:56:45 PM
Good on her even if it didn't turn out perfect.

CSS:
We were in the desert in Nevada outside Hawthorne, probably in fall or spring because the afternoon wasn't that hot. My granddad had warned my dad that the sand was soft, but my dad didn't listen and got the truck stuck. My grandmother, who was about 65 at the time, and suffering from lung cancer, and I, who was about 8 or so, hiked about 15 miles back to the nearest houses until we found an occupied one, while dad stayed with the truck. I remember thinking that God had put extra bulbs in the moon that night because it was very full and bright and made it easy to see even in the middle of nowhere.

Oddly enough, never occurred to me that my dad might not be found alive. . . the things you realize when you've grown up.
 
2013-03-25 05:58:17 PM
Much better than that boy from a few weeks ago. He was older and did nothing but hang out at the house all day for a week. Should probably cut off his balls and give them to the girl. She earned them.
 
2013-03-25 06:08:12 PM
Wow. "Interesting" wouldn't be my word for this.
 
2013-03-25 06:10:03 PM
There was a similar incident to this back in the 90s when a large family was traveling back from Fresno to LA and went off the road in a fairly remote spot.  The only still mobile member or the family left with a cell phone to get help by calling or from passing motorists on the road and was attacked and killed by a mountain lion and the rest of the family subsequently died in the vehicle.  The LA Times reported the incident but left out the part about the lion being responsible for the death of the entire family because it didn't fit in with their whole nature is your friend editorial policy.
 
2013-03-25 06:11:04 PM
If she isn't "legally here", I'd sponsor her. Better her than people like "ultraholland", "LemSkoorb", or "Bullroarer_Took".
 
2013-03-25 06:15:40 PM

OscarTamerz: The LA Times reported the incident but left out the part about the lion being responsible for the death of the entire family because it didn't fit in with their whole nature is your friend editorial policy.


I know it's true cuz I read it on the Internet.
 
2013-03-25 06:18:08 PM

OscarTamerz: There was a similar incident to this back in the 90s when a large family was traveling back from Fresno to LA and went off the road in a fairly remote spot.  The only still mobile member or the family left with a cell phone to get help by calling or from passing motorists on the road and was attacked and killed by a mountain lion and the rest of the family subsequently died in the vehicle.  The LA Times reported the incident but left out the part about the lion being responsible for the death of the entire family because it didn't fit in with their whole nature is your friend editorial policy.


The lion had been stalking the family for weeks after a perceived slight. They could only push him so far before he pushed back.
 
2013-03-25 06:24:04 PM
She hiked until she found help and used their cellphone, because she was roaming and didn't want to make her dad mad.
 
2013-03-25 06:25:19 PM
The same kind of incident happened to the daughter of a good friend of mine. He was splitting custody with the girl's mother, and both parents were driving from their respective homes to meet in the middle in Barstow, where he'd pick up his daughter for a few weeks. Unfortunately, she never arrived... she had fallen asleep at the wheel, and veered off into the desert in the middle of the night.

When the daughter (who must have been about five) woke up, she was alone in her carseat in the wrecked vehicle; Her mom had been thrown from the vehicle and died instantly. Not knowing where her mom was, or what was going on, she eventually freed herself from the wreckage, and started off across the desert to the only light she could see - a gas station in the distance. She hadn't been wearing shoes, and her pajama pants got tangled up in some barbed wire that she had to cross to get there, but she eventually made her way to the gas station, mostly the worse for wear - a lot of scratches and some cactus needles, but no serious injuries. She walked in and told the gas station attendant that her mommy was dead, and they called the police.

She's healthy and happy now, years later. It's amazing that she survived, and I wouldn't wish that horrific journey on my worst enemy.
 
2013-03-25 06:28:36 PM
brava kid !

/but I still want to know why dad had the kid out after 1am on a school night
 
2013-03-25 06:29:48 PM

LemSkroob: middle of the night on a remote desert highway. So... running drugs, or people???


Sierra Hwy really isn't that remote and it's not in the desert. You're always within a couple miles of some new housing development and it parallels the 14 Antelope Valley freeway through the canyon.
 
2013-03-25 06:31:33 PM

Gilligann: She told her family she was saddened to learn her father did not survive the crash.

Saddened?

My father did not survive the crash? I'm saddened to hear this


Hello, I am a recent journalism school graduate, assigned to write this heartrending yet heroic tale. Let me show off my vocabulary. The girl was saddened. Yea, verily.
 
2013-03-25 06:39:11 PM
chuckjones.server700.com
Coyotes are easily distracted by quality reading materials like Acme catalogs.
 
2013-03-25 06:41:19 PM
Poor girl. This is gonna stay with her for the rest of her life that she couldn't save her dad.

Fark god for making broken people like this.
 
2013-03-25 06:44:28 PM
I smell Newbery-bait.
 
2013-03-25 06:52:40 PM
You do what you gotta do what you gotta do

/never heard of a coyote attacking a human
//and I live among them out here
 
2013-03-25 06:53:49 PM
static.guim.co.uk
Taylor Mitchell was killed by coyotes a few years back - While they usually aren't that aggressive,  apparently, the animals thought it was Joni... and they weren't fans.

/obscure
//not a fan, either
 
2013-03-25 06:55:54 PM

nanim: brava kid !

/but I still want to know why dad had the kid out after 1am on a school night


he was drunk.
 
2013-03-25 06:57:53 PM

kahnzo: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bfm


Or even this perhaps:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bmf
 
2013-03-25 07:05:59 PM
40 ain't cold and coyotes are basically harmless.
 
2013-03-25 07:28:04 PM

BGates: 40 ain't cold and coyotes are basically harmless.


40 is cold in Southern California, and the coyotes down here will eat anything that can't get away from them.
 
2013-03-25 07:28:34 PM

BGates: 40 ain't cold and coyotes are basically harmless.


Wild coyotes are found in every major city in the US including New York, Chicago & San Francisco  you might get a glimpse of them at night but they pretty much keep to themselves.
 
2013-03-25 07:33:29 PM
Kudos to her. That is one brave kid. I just hope that she doesn't blame herself for getting to help too slowly. She doesn't deserve that kind of guilt.

/would send her a card or something to commend her bravery if I could
 
2013-03-25 07:40:57 PM
Coyotes are the barracudas of land.  Scary looking but harmless.
 
2013-03-25 07:46:10 PM

Plant Rights Activist: Coyotes are the barracudas of land.  Scary looking but harmless.


Until they think you're small and weak. Or injured.

Barracudas are scarier when they jump. But diving with them down in the Keys they are downright creepy. The farkers just sit there and float staring at you. It's like watching some angry gnarly toothed hovercraft. It's like in the water they don't give a damn about you. But on a boat? They think you're target practice.
 
2013-03-25 07:51:56 PM
still not good enough to justify a 30 round magazine. she would have done fine with 10 or even 5 round clips. A Ruger Ranch would have been perfect. Claiming otherwise is just an excuse for AR owners to jerk off .
 
2013-03-25 08:08:21 PM

Smoking GNU: Fark god for making broken people like this.


I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours...
 
2013-03-25 08:18:56 PM
Imagine if it was bear infested.
Or infested by wolverines or honey badgers! But, to be fair, a coyote infestation is still pretty dangerous territory.
 
2013-03-25 09:01:43 PM

willfullyobscure: still not good enough to justify a 30 round magazine. she would have done fine with 10 or even 5 round clips. A Ruger Ranch would have been perfect. Claiming otherwise is just an excuse for AR owners to jerk off .


ah, you droll troll.
 
2013-03-25 09:51:50 PM
dbeshear: If she isn't "legally here", I'd sponsor her. Better her than people like "ultraholland", "LemSkoorb", or "Bullroarer_Took".

You haven't been here long enough. One day your butthurt will melt away and you will learn to poke crass fun at the morbid.
 
2013-03-25 10:13:46 PM

duenor: willfullyobscure: still not good enough to justify a 30 round magazine. she would have done fine with 10 or even 5 round clips. A Ruger Ranch would have been perfect. Claiming otherwise is just an excuse for AR owners to jerk off .

ah, you droll troll.


It's meta, dude. I'm rolling.

blutarsky.jpg
 
2013-03-25 11:42:22 PM
UNPOPULR OPINION

Having lived in "coyote infested" areas and having walked around at night in same parts and having encountered coyotes...

Maybe.. just maybe ...
It doesn;'t mean shiat.

She is NOT A HERO OR A BMF for merely surviving in the first place
And anone not in a state of shock would go seeking help..

So she did what anyone else in her circumstance would have done
... seek aid in order to survive

I am sad that Americans now see desperation as an equal to heroism.
How low our bar has been lowered.

When will panhandlers be revered as heroes for "braving the extremes and the odds"?
Perhaps after our next 'publican President.
 
2013-03-26 12:08:28 AM

IDisME: If she needs money from the interweb, now would be the time to bring it up.  Seriously though, what a brave and smart little girl.


Whoa!  Vincent_blackshadow just tapped us all out.  Maybe if she asked Oprah nicely...
 
2013-03-26 12:23:45 AM

rcain: UNPOPULR OPINION

Having lived in "coyote infested" areas and having walked around at night in same parts and having encountered coyotes...

Maybe.. just maybe ...
It doesn;'t mean shiat.

She is NOT A HERO OR A BMF for merely surviving in the first place
And anone not in a state of shock would go seeking help..

So she did what anyone else in her circumstance would have done
... seek aid in order to survive

I am sad that Americans now see desperation as an equal to heroism.
How low our bar has been lowered.

When will panhandlers be revered as heroes for "braving the extremes and the odds"?
Perhaps after our next 'publican President.


Just out of curiosity--since survival doesn't seem to be it--what exactly WOULD be your criteria for heroism?

I mean, obviously anyone who does their job (like a cop or firefighter or soldier) wouldn't be in; and now anyone who hikes out of a canyon at night, even if they are a child who's just been in a car accident is out; clearly anyone who does anything to ensure their survival isn't a hero; so pray tell, who WOULD be doing something heroic?
 
2013-03-26 01:26:00 AM

Gyrfalcon: rcain: UNPOPULR OPINION

Having lived in "coyote infested" areas and having walked around at night in same parts and having encountered coyotes...

Maybe.. just maybe ...
It doesn;'t mean shiat.

She is NOT A HERO OR A BMF for merely surviving in the first place
And anone not in a state of shock would go seeking help..

So she did what anyone else in her circumstance would have done
... seek aid in order to survive

I am sad that Americans now see desperation as an equal to heroism.
How low our bar has been lowered.

When will panhandlers be revered as heroes for "braving the extremes and the odds"?
Perhaps after our next 'publican President.

Just out of curiosity--since survival doesn't seem to be it--what exactly WOULD be your criteria for heroism?

I mean, obviously anyone who does their job (like a cop or firefighter or soldier) wouldn't be in; and now anyone who hikes out of a canyon at night, even if they are a child who's just been in a car accident is out; clearly anyone who does anything to ensure their survival isn't a hero; so pray tell, who WOULD be doing something heroic?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCOPuGB g_W0

That faint, high-pitched sound you're hearing? That's rcain sobbing into his keyboard.
 
2013-03-26 01:54:32 AM

TheOtherMisterP: kahnzo: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bfm

Or even this perhaps:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bmf


Thanks you two. The best I could come up with on my own was BubbleFishyMon (sorry, sometimes I forget I'm not on Slashdot) or biatchassMetaFarker (which I guess wasn't too far off the mark)

FTFA: she was "saddened" to hear he passed, and her sisters mentioned she connected with him more than her other fathers.
 
2013-03-26 01:55:30 AM

Gyrfalcon: 40 is cold in Southern California, and the coyotes down here will eat anything that can't get away from them.


A little girl is not coyote food. Maybe she'd get mauled if she played Croc Hunter and stuck thumb up a puppy's bum hole and mama heard the yelp. Much like wolves, coyotes have a bad rap from farmers who have to justify their wanton slaughter of innocent canids to themselves and their children.

But the real horror of this story is the car wreck. 2 miles at night in chilly weather with no bears or venomous snakes around is just a little nature hike. Any kid could do that. Losing your father in a car wreck and having to make that hike alone? That's mind breaking stuff.

I'm suitably impressed, but for the right reasons.

Coyote attack statistics.
 
2013-03-26 03:55:27 AM

doglover: Gyrfalcon: 40 is cold in Southern California, and the coyotes down here will eat anything that can't get away from them.

A little girl is not coyote food. Maybe she'd get mauled if she played Croc Hunter and stuck thumb up a puppy's bum hole and mama heard the yelp. Much like wolves, coyotes have a bad rap from farmers who have to justify their wanton slaughter of innocent canids to themselves and their children.

But the real horror of this story is the car wreck. 2 miles at night in chilly weather with no bears or venomous snakes around is just a little nature hike. Any kid could do that. Losing your father in a car wreck and having to make that hike alone? That's mind breaking stuff.

I'm suitably impressed, but for the right reasons.

Coyote attack statistics.


Yeah, that's in Canadia. Down here, in L.A. and environs, it's not so much the coyotes in the wilderness (which, I grant you, is where this girl was) but the ones we get in the suburbs. The ones down in the city areas are getting habituated and are weirdly aggressive towards humans and especially littler ones. I've seen with my own two eyes coyotes that won't run from humans (kind of like raccoons that won't run, and bears that won't run), but will stand their ground like any feral animal. It's our own damn fault, of course, but that doesn't make them any less mean.

Given people's idiocy about cute little wild animals and the unpredictability of ANY wild animal outside its comfort zone, I'd just as soon kids, at least, were afraid of coyotes and didn't want to get within a nuclear mile of them. For everyone's sake.
 
2013-03-26 04:32:25 AM
Terrible thing for the girl.
Comments on the bottom of the article weirds me out :/
"The only father around her that stuck"? Most of us have just the one.
 
2013-03-26 07:15:17 AM
coyote infested?
 
2013-03-26 10:25:54 AM
I submitted this with a worse headline.
 
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