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2013-03-25 02:11:18 PM
How old is his Gucci bag?
 
2013-03-25 02:31:35 PM
Huh.  i read yesterday where his dad is named like, "john newton" or something, and his dad said he chose "shabazz muhammed" for his son's name due to the worldwide marketing implications.  so i wouldn't put it past the dad to play some games on the age, as in older guy playing against younger guys in high school to get the advantage for college ball.  but if you can't get your team out of the second round in the NCAAs and your coach gets fired....

/csb:  ran into Jamie Howland at the airport a few years back, he had just been named coach.  he was nice.  wearing a UCLA polo and nikes.
 
2013-03-25 02:59:18 PM

rickythepenguin: Huh.  i read yesterday where his dad is named like, "john newton" or something, and his dad said he chose "shabazz muhammed" for his son's name due to the worldwide marketing implications.  so i wouldn't put it past the dad to play some games on the age, as in older guy playing against younger guys in high school to get the advantage for college ball.  but if you can't get your team out of the second round in the NCAAs and your coach gets fired....

/csb:  ran into Jamie Howland at the airport a few years back, he had just been named coach.  he was nice.  wearing a UCLA polo and nikes.


Yeah, everything I hear about this makes me hope his son's basketball career falls flat somehow.
 
2013-03-25 03:19:34 PM
Shabazz seems like a scum bag and so does his family.  I can't wait for him to flame out in the NBA.  Also was part of the reason I was glad to see UCLA go down and the coach get fired.
 
2013-03-25 03:39:38 PM
So wait, is he one year older than previous thought, which was, when the story came out a few days ago, one year older than previously thought?  Does that mean he's now two years older than previously thought?
 
2013-03-25 03:45:56 PM

rickythepenguin: Huh.  i read yesterday where his dad is named like, "john newton" or something, and his dad said he chose "shabazz muhammed" for his son's name due to the worldwide marketing implications.  so i wouldn't put it past the dad to play some games on the age, as in older guy playing against younger guys in high school to get the advantage for college ball.  but if you can't get your team out of the second round in the NCAAs and your coach gets fired....

/csb:  ran into Jamie Howland at the airport a few years back, he had just been named coach.  he was nice.  wearing a UCLA polo and nikes.


He was also asking the reporter that called him about this story if he wanted to work as the families media/PR guy. So, yeah.

Here's my sort-of-brush-with-NBA-prospect story:

I used to be co-workers with the mother of a local city league stud who was tagged as an NBA-level talent in high school. Kid was like 6'8", big and physical, went like 20/15 in the city league en route to a state title his senior year. Had some trouble with grades so had to go the juco route, but ended up being recruited to a Big 12 school to play.  He was a good player, went like 14/7 his two years there, on teams that were single-digit NCAA tournament seeds in both years. Unquestionably one of the two best players on both those teams. He struggled a bit down the stretch his senior year, but was still getting some buzz as a mid to late first rounder, second rounder for certain.

Well, his mom went nuts on this. Saw dollar signs, figured that her boy was going to be making $20 mil a year, she was going to be his agent, the whole nine yards. They rented out the ballroom at one of the local hotels on draft night, invited like half the city, local news was there, banners and big-ass cakes and chapagne, etc.

Kid didn't get drafted. Not even a second rounder. The rumor was that his mom was present at all these meetings he had with team representatives that wanted to talk to the kid, and was just so incredibly terrible that she pretty much guaranteed no team would touch him. How much truth there is to that I don't know, she always seemed fairly level-headed and reasonable to me, but Brass Rings make people do stupid things I guess. He ended up getting invited to one teams camp, but didn't catch on and I think went and played over in Europe. As far as I know he hasn't sniffed the NBA since.
 
2013-03-25 04:04:03 PM
FToriginalA:

Around that time he met Faye Paige, a point guard, sprinter and hurdler at Cal State Long Beach. Spotting her at a summer league game, Holmes recalled saying to a friend: "See that No. 10? She's going to be my wife, and we're going to make some All-Americans."

Holmes expressed concern about disclosure of his son's true age and his own criminal record and questioned whether either was newsworthy. He followed up with a text message.
"Bazz is going to blow up in the NBA lets team up and blow this thing up!!!" Holmes wrote to this reporter. "I'm going to need a publicist anyway why shouldn't it be you. We can do some big things together."

By his account, Holmes, 51, supports his family with income from rental properties that he and associates purchased in California and Nevada about 15 years ago. Holmes declined to identify the properties, which he said are not in his name.

Very few freshmen at Bishop Gorman, a $12,000-a-year Catholic high school in Las Vegas with a powerhouse athletics program, make the varsity basketball team...Muhammad crisscrossed the nation, attending dozens of camps and tournaments where scouts would tweet about his progress, post videos and document his ascent in the newsletters they peddle to college coaches.

Through his brother, an assistant coach at Muhammad's high school, Lincoln met Holmes. He now calls him a close friend. Starting in March 2010, Lincoln paid for at least three visits to the University of North Carolina and Duke, covering airfare and hotel bills for Holmes and his son.
Lincoln was in L.A. this month to watch UCLA play. In an interview, Lincoln said he couldn't remember exactly how much he spent, but that he paid for the trips because the family was tight on funds, something Holmes denies.

If that failed, he said, he had a backup plan: For more than two years, he had been guarding a recording of a phone call that his benefactor Lincoln had made to the NCAA. On the secretly taped call, an eligibility official seemed to approve Lincoln's funding of the trips to North Carolina.
Holmes considered the tape "a little protection" in case NCAA officials questioned the arrangement.


This dude is shady as hell.  With a criminal record and no discernible income, he somehow managed to turn his daughter into a pro tennis player (though not a particularly good one) and put his son through four years of private school, all while befriending the brother of a "wealth manager" who paid for Muhammad's unofficial visits because Holmes couldn't afford them despite the total cost of the trips being 1/10th the annual cost Muhammad's tuition.
 
2013-03-25 04:18:12 PM
As a UCLA fan i'm still scratching my head wondering what all the fuss is about. From what i've seen of him he needs to redshirt a year, then do another 3 years under a really good coach (Coach K/Roy Williams) before even thinking about the NBA. And the experts are saying this guy is a top 10 draft pick? Has the talent level really dropped that much in the NBA? Anyone remember OJ Mayo? Haven't heard of him since he joined the NBA. Is he still playing?
 
2013-03-25 04:21:45 PM
Nanoo, nanoo.
 
2013-03-25 04:21:59 PM

Mr. Lickalickalicka: Anyone remember OJ Mayo?


He plays for the Mavs.  He has a teammate from his year of high school ball in Cincinnati that is still in the NBA, too.  That team was tough.
 
2013-03-25 04:52:05 PM

SkittlesAreYum: Yeah, everything I hear about this makes me hope his son's basketball career falls flat somehow.


Why not hope the kid is successful and doesn't give pops the cut pops thinks he deserves?

/then again, you could say that ol' dad was trying to put his kid in the best possible position to succeed - can't blame a man for that

rickythepenguin: but if you can't get your team out of the second round in the NCAAs and your coach gets fired....


You're Kevin Durant? Whoops, Rick Barnes is still laughably employed.
 
2013-03-25 04:56:46 PM

SkittlesAreYum: Yeah, everything I hear about this makes me hope his son's basketball career falls flat somehow.


on the radio they were talking about this and howland's firing (and, memo to me, that's BEN howland, not "jamie howland" as i said above) and they compared Shabazz / his dad to Todd Marinovich.  there's some story in the LA Times from yesterday, some long form piece, about how Bazz' dad groomed him from like, birth, to be this NBA gift from above.  dont' know.  just know how it ended for Marinovich.
 
2013-03-25 05:59:33 PM

Mr. Lickalickalicka: As a UCLA fan i'm still scratching my head wondering what all the fuss is about. From what i've seen of him he needs to redshirt a year, then do another 3 years under a really good coach (Coach K/Roy Williams) before even thinking about the NBA. And the experts are saying this guy is a top 10 draft pick? Has the talent level really dropped that much in the NBA? Anyone remember OJ Mayo? Haven't heard of him since he joined the NBA. Is he still playing?


Mayo's averaging 16.5 point per game this year for the Mavs.
 
2013-03-25 06:35:55 PM
Mayo is a good player (albeit he did get popped for HGH), a better comparison here is Michael Beasley. Or if you want to go cross-sport, Marinovich.
 
2013-03-25 10:14:38 PM

jayhawk88: rickythepenguin: Huh.  i read yesterday where his dad is named like, "john newton" or something, and his dad said he chose "shabazz muhammed" for his son's name due to the worldwide marketing implications.  so i wouldn't put it past the dad to play some games on the age, as in older guy playing against younger guys in high school to get the advantage for college ball.  but if you can't get your team out of the second round in the NCAAs and your coach gets fired....

/csb:  ran into Jamie Howland at the airport a few years back, he had just been named coach.  he was nice.  wearing a UCLA polo and nikes.

He was also asking the reporter that called him about this story if he wanted to work as the families media/PR guy. So, yeah.

Here's my sort-of-brush-with-NBA-prospect story:

I used to be co-workers with the mother of a local city league stud who was tagged as an NBA-level talent in high school. Kid was like 6'8", big and physical, went like 20/15 in the city league en route to a state title his senior year. Had some trouble with grades so had to go the juco route, but ended up being recruited to a Big 12 school to play.  He was a good player, went like 14/7 his two years there, on teams that were single-digit NCAA tournament seeds in both years. Unquestionably one of the two best players on both those teams. He struggled a bit down the stretch his senior year, but was still getting some buzz as a mid to late first rounder, second rounder for certain.

Well, his mom went nuts on this. Saw dollar signs, figured that her boy was going to be making $20 mil a year, she was going to be his agent, the whole nine yards. They rented out the ballroom at one of the local hotels on draft night, invited like half the city, local news was there, banners and big-ass cakes and chapagne, etc.

Kid didn't get drafted. Not even a second rounder. The rumor was that his mom was present at all these meetings he had with team representatives that wanted to talk to the kid, and was just ...


Why not just say  the player's name?
 
2013-03-25 10:23:51 PM

Mr. Lickalickalicka: As a UCLA fan i'm still scratching my head wondering what all the fuss is about. From what i've seen of him he needs to redshirt a year, then do another 3 years under a really good coach (Coach K/Roy Williams) before even thinking about the NBA. And the experts are saying this guy is a top 10 draft pick? Has the talent level really dropped that much in the NBA? Anyone remember OJ Mayo? Haven't heard of him since he joined the NBA. Is he still playing?


2/10.  Calling Roy Williams a good coach and claiming that OJ Mayo is irrelevant were the give aways.
 
2013-03-26 09:47:27 AM

Mr. Lickalickalicka: As a UCLA fan i'm still scratching my head wondering what all the fuss is about. From what i've seen of him he needs to redshirt a year, then do another 3 years under a really good coach (Coach K/Roy Williams) before even thinking about the NBA. And the experts are saying this guy is a top 10 draft pick? Has the talent level really dropped that much in the NBA? Anyone remember OJ Mayo? Haven't heard of him since he joined the NBA. Is he still playing?


You know as much about basketball as I'd expect from someone who claims to be a UCLA fan.
 
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