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2013-03-25 12:50:28 PM
I saw a really good Sunday Morning webisode on this ship.
 
2013-03-25 12:57:33 PM
It costs $80,000 a month just for mooring, basic maintenance, insurance and security, he said.

Jesus. Let it go, then. Its worth more to scrap it.
 
2013-03-25 01:38:09 PM
You got me, subby.
 
2013-03-25 01:40:26 PM
I hope Washington goes to Asia. I miss living there.
 
2013-03-25 01:41:47 PM
www.bionicdisco.com

It's ok, the President has a plan.
 
2013-03-25 01:42:33 PM
NO!  we must keep EVERYTHING!
town square where I live is so cluttered with memorials there's no place left to walk around and sit.
 
2013-03-25 01:42:47 PM
That sounds about right.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-03-25 01:42:51 PM
it'll just start autoselling its improvements
 
2013-03-25 01:43:02 PM
It was towed from Virginia to Turkey to Ukraine, finally arriving in Philadelphia as a gutted hulk in 1996.

Already gutted? Let it go, man.
 
2013-03-25 01:44:21 PM

leonel: I hope Washington goes to Asia. I miss living there.


Somebody didn't read the article.
 
2013-03-25 01:44:31 PM
There's very little left, in terms of internals. The engines were removed years ago.
 
2013-03-25 01:45:08 PM
Even if they do scrap it, that could hardly be as ignominious an ending as that of her sister ship:

turismofuerteventura.files.wordpress.com

Not everything is worth saving.
 
2013-03-25 01:45:10 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
Someone needs to rethink through their financial genus plan...
 
rka
2013-03-25 01:46:58 PM
Why keep it? Does Philly need a floating museum for a simple ocean liner? I mean, we're not talking the USS Missouri here. Oooh...Presidents and famous people used the crapper in Berth 10A, alert the historical society!
 
2013-03-25 01:47:07 PM

Glendale: It was towed from Virginia to Turkey to Ukraine, finally arriving in Philadelphia as a gutted hulk in 1996.

Already gutted? Let it go, man.


This. It's just a ship, man. It's not even a glorious ship.
 
2013-03-25 01:47:49 PM

Glendale: It was towed from Virginia to Turkey to Ukraine, finally arriving in Philadelphia as a gutted hulk in 1996.

Already gutted? Let it go, man.


Joking aside, this has real historical significance.  It's the last American ocean liner in existence.  I've been following this thing for a while.  The "gutted hulk" bit is a little misleading.  Yes, it doesn't have much in the way of fittings at the moment, but from all accounts it's structurally sound and not leaking.  By way of a car analogy, the electronics and seats have been stripped out, but the frame, body, and drive train are good.

/subby
 
2013-03-25 01:47:53 PM
Glad to see they raised it from the North Atlantic after it hit that iceberg a hundred years ago.
/Kudos to them
 
2013-03-25 01:48:11 PM
That ship's power plant is the only thing that made it unique.  If that's gone, break it up for razor blades and Toyotas.
 
2013-03-25 01:48:47 PM
 
2013-03-25 01:49:14 PM
I'm all for preservation of historical ships, but this isn't worth the money and effort. She's already scrap, she just hasn't been broken up yet.
 
2013-03-25 01:49:30 PM
Sink it, fish love wrecks.
 
2013-03-25 01:49:42 PM
Sell it to Carnival; its still in better condition than their fleet.
 
2013-03-25 01:50:38 PM
Here ya go
wiki.teamfortress.com

Can I get a pyro hat, too?
 
2013-03-25 01:50:56 PM
At least it helps hold the ocean down.
 
2013-03-25 01:52:57 PM

Tad_Waxpole: leonel: I hope Washington goes to Asia. I miss living there.

Somebody didn't read the article.


I know it's about the ship, I was just playing with subby's headline. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
 
2013-03-25 01:54:30 PM

shroom: Glendale: It was towed from Virginia to Turkey to Ukraine, finally arriving in Philadelphia as a gutted hulk in 1996.

Already gutted? Let it go, man.

Joking aside, this has real historical significance.  It's the last American ocean liner in existence.  I've been following this thing for a while.  The "gutted hulk" bit is a little misleading.  Yes, it doesn't have much in the way of fittings at the moment, but from all accounts it's structurally sound and not leaking.  By way of a car analogy, the electronics and seats have been stripped out, but the frame, body, and drive train are good.

/subby


I don't know anything about how much it costs to moor a ship, but how much of that $80k a month is just going to mooring?
 
2013-03-25 01:55:25 PM
What they should do is make a virtual recording of every inch of the ship (which would cost ?) and then sell it for scrap.
Then you lease out the virtual ship to Google.

(And take some of the scrap to make a miniature ship to put on display at the Smithsonian.)
 
2013-03-25 01:56:19 PM
I saw her at Philly in '83.      She is ghostly (in a ship way),  and is junk.

She was not mothballed,  just abandoned.

Tow her out, put her on the bottom.

Use the huge amounts of money to help the blind,  or tornado victims or something.

Or give that private money to Joe Biden so he won't use tax dollars to spend $500,000 for a one night hotel stay.    Whatever.
 
2013-03-25 01:58:13 PM
If they couldn't bother to even save the mast of the ww 2 enterprise, this hulk needs to go.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-25 01:59:39 PM
Does it need a bailout?
 
2013-03-25 01:59:47 PM

NostroZ: Someone needs to rethink through their financial genus plan...


so like, a money tree
www.thegreenhead.com
 
2013-03-25 02:00:31 PM
The whole thing is kind of ridiculous. It's a small core of people who are convinced that it needs saving and they've blown through the four million that was donated a while back. They grasp at straws whenever the remotest opportunity arises to use it (turn it into a casino! turn it into a hotel! turn it into a paper weight!) and they just get laughed off.

Stoker: What they should do is make a virtual recording of every inch of the ship (which would cost ?) and then sell it for scrap.
Then you lease out the virtual ship to Google.

(And take some of the scrap to make a miniature ship to put on display at the Smithsonian.)


I always thought it would be neat to do historical stuff up in Unity with virtual tour guides and even games to edutain people.
 
2013-03-25 02:02:27 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Not everything is worth saving.


True....
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-25 02:02:38 PM
Sounds about right and Im not talking about the boat.
 
2013-03-25 02:02:51 PM

mainsail: More concerned about this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Olympia_%28C-6%29


I agree with that one.   Signifigant.   There should be a few.
 
2013-03-25 02:03:19 PM
As a Federal employee, this headline got my attention


/scrap it
 
2013-03-25 02:03:20 PM
Give the old gal a grand send off; use her for target practice. Make a new reef out of her.

/ plenty of other, more important ships get scrapped.
 
2013-03-25 02:04:27 PM
"Are we giving up on successfully redeveloping the ship as a self-sustaining entity? Absolutely not," said Dan McSweeney, head of the fantasy efforts.

Enough, already. This BS has been going on for 25 years. It's time to let it go to the scrapyard.
 
2013-03-25 02:04:43 PM
Also, I brought this up in the last thread, but the Olympia is also under the axe and that ship is in the top ships with respects to American naval history alongside the Monitor, Hunley and the Constitution. So stop messing around and let's get a new coat of paint on that bad boy.
 
2013-03-25 02:05:28 PM
More concerned about this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Olympia_%28C-6%29


USS Olympia needs to be saved. She is the only surviving ship of her type, and ushered in the modern era for the U.S. Navy. Then -Commodore George Dewey used her as his flagship for the US Asiatic Squadron in 1898, and uttered his now famous order "You may fire when ready, Gridley ! " at the Battle of Manila Bay during the Spanish- American War. She's a neat old vessel worthy of saving.
 
2013-03-25 02:06:07 PM
I'd love it if there was a company with a name like Galt that could buy it, scrap it and build a new one
 
2013-03-25 02:07:51 PM
It'll be fine as long as we do not sell it to Qin Shang Maritime.
 
2013-03-25 02:09:40 PM
Teabaggers will never give up hope.
 
2013-03-25 02:13:14 PM
Scrap it? Unfortunately, that answer has to be yes. Lots of history/firsts/world records and such but it's beyond fiscally responsible to restore it to anything remotely approaching what it actually was back when that history, those records and everything else were done. I just don't want to see even more resources wasted towing it to Bangladesh or similar. Cut it up and feed it to the steel mills in the US.
 
2013-03-25 02:14:58 PM

leonel: Tad_Waxpole: leonel: I hope Washington goes to Asia. I miss living there.

Somebody didn't read the article.

I know it's about the ship, I was just playing with subby's headline. Nothing wrong with that, is there?


You must be new here. This is Fark. Not a place to play with anyone's headline (or anything else for that matter). It's serious business.

/it may get out of control
//we'll be lucky to live through it
 
2013-03-25 02:15:18 PM

mrlewish: Teabaggers will never give up hope.


Didn't expect a comment from left field.  Please, continue...
 
2013-03-25 02:16:08 PM
Not everything can be preserved.
 
2013-03-25 02:17:31 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Even if they do scrap it, that could hardly be as ignominious an ending as that of her sister ship:

[turismofuerteventura.files.wordpress.com image 500x336]

Not everything is worth saving.


If it survives the tow that's exactly what's going to happen to it.
 
2013-03-25 02:17:59 PM
First off, she's gutted so the boat has liked sailed, sadly enough.

Secondly, Philly is not a good place for this kind of stuff.  Yes, Philly has an important maritime history with the US and did a lot of ship building, but no one thinks "Oh I'll go see historic ships in Philly".  The Olympia should be moved elsewhere and for the United States to have any kind of chance she likely need to be somewhere else.  You need tourists who are thinking "I want to see some ships" for this kind of thing to work.  The Queen Mary hotel for example seems to at least scrape by since people are coming to Long Beach expecting to see ships, the ocean, etc.

/stayed in the Queen Mary, her room prices are reasonable enough you can use her for business travel, which is nice
 
2013-03-25 02:18:11 PM
Maybe we could turn her into a troop ship for our war in Iran or in China or in Korea or in...


www.biography.com

Oh, wait...

www.worldshipny.com

Nevermind...
 
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