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2013-03-25 12:59:13 PM  
 But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle, he found one small plastic bag containing less than 50 grams of marijuana,

So they found between 1 gram and 1.8 OUNCES of pot...

Nice reporting there, Lou
 
2013-03-25 01:02:52 PM  
was sitting in the coffee shop
Just minding my own affair
When all of a sudden, this
Policeman caught me unaware

Said, is your name Pedro
I says, yeah, I guess so
Said, then come with me cause
You're the man we been looking for

I said, hey, man
I been framed
Hey, no, really, man
I was framed
 
2013-03-25 01:07:19 PM  
"D" is *that way*.
 
2013-03-25 01:07:45 PM  
lygsbtd.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-25 01:17:19 PM  
Uh... how fast are we going, man?
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2013-03-25 01:35:19 PM  
Man, what is in this Sh*t, man?
Mostly Maui Waui man, but it's got some Labrador in it.
What's Labrador?
I had it on the table and the little motherf*cker ate it, man. Then I had to follow him around with a little baggie for three days, man, before I got it back. Really blew the dog's mind, ya know?
You mean we're smokin' dog sh*t, man?
 
2013-03-25 01:41:41 PM  
img801.imageshack.us

Whoa. I just made this for a PS contest last week. And now this thread is here.

THIS MEANS SOMETHING.
 
2013-03-25 01:45:58 PM  
[cop walks up to the van, where Pedro and Man have been trying to switch who's driving]


Cop: What do you guys want?

Pedro: Nothing.

Cop: Hey, do you mind if I have a, bite of your hot dog?

Pedro: Huh? No man, here, take the whole thing.

[the cop takes a huge bite]

Pedro: Want some fritos?

Cop: [through a mouthful of hot dog] no, this is fine! Thank you! Hey, you fellas have a nice day, okay?

Man Stoner: Hey man, what was that dude's trip? I mean what was he on, man?

Pedro: Man, I don't know but I wish we had some of it!
 
2013-03-25 02:09:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle


why did she do that?
 
2013-03-25 02:16:34 PM  
Well, this is Sparta.
 
2013-03-25 02:19:43 PM  
Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.
 
2013-03-25 02:21:24 PM  
These kids and their farking blunts.

Doesn't anyone just smoke a normal cig sized joint anymore?
 
2013-03-25 02:21:54 PM  

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?


Because they're the kind of idiot who drives while high.
 
2013-03-25 02:22:06 PM  

CaptSacto: Uh... how fast are we going, man?


How's my driving?

I think we're parked, man.
 
2013-03-25 02:22:53 PM  
I wasn't lookin' at his neck.
 
2013-03-25 02:23:44 PM  

rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.


It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.
 
2013-03-25 02:24:29 PM  
Dave's not here.
 
2013-03-25 02:25:32 PM  

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?


He'd already seen the pot. He would have just called the dog, making her wait longer for the same conclusion.
 
2013-03-25 02:26:05 PM  

rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.


It grinds the "dope" (marijuana) into a finer form so they can put it into the cigar. They then "toke up" or smoke it.
 
2013-03-25 02:27:03 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


Thank you!  Though I was hoping it was a sex toy that I could get off Craigslist.
 
2013-03-25 02:27:37 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.
 
2013-03-25 02:28:23 PM  
That 50 grams turned to 5 grams almost as if by magic.

/judging by the photo
 
2013-03-25 02:28:24 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


I used to know a dude (kind of like Strawberry, I guess) who would take his whole sack and dump it in a little blender to grind up, stems seeds and all.  Gross.
 
2013-03-25 02:30:18 PM  

rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.


Maty-Gin, no doubt
 
2013-03-25 02:30:35 PM  
Officer: Sir, could I please see your license?
Pedro: Whuuut?
Officer: Your license. Sir, where's your license?
Pedro: Isn't it back there on the bumper, man?
 
2013-03-25 02:30:38 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.


Sticky buds jam those thing up. Why would you destroy some sweet sweet sticky bud by smashing and tearing it. Stuff it whole into a bowl and love it.
 
2013-03-25 02:30:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle


/bangsheadondesk

It doesn't matter what he saw, you idiot, you don't have to let him search the car.
 
2013-03-25 02:30:56 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


I suppose you could use it for that. Wouldn't know, I wont smoke that garbage. I use mine to grind it up fine for the vaporizer.
 
2013-03-25 02:31:08 PM  
 
2013-03-25 02:32:01 PM  

karmaceutical: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I used to know a dude (kind of like Strawberry, I guess) who would take his whole sack and dump it in a little blender to grind up, stems seeds and all.  Gross.


I mean, I could almost live with stems, but weed with seeds in it? ewwww.
 
2013-03-25 02:32:54 PM  
If you must smoke in the car (hey, cigarette smikers get to do it) there is one very important rule of thumb.

Treat EVERY car like a police car. Every single car. I don't care if it has out of state plates, if its old, beat-up, brand new...I don't care if you can see the people inside of the car and they appear to be old lades on the way to Golden Corral. Never advertise. If he'd been following the rule he would not have been rolling before taking a quick look around to see where the traffic was. He would have spotted the officer making the turn and they would have gone about their business.
 
2013-03-25 02:33:06 PM  

sammyk: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I suppose you could use it for that. Wouldn't know, I wont smoke that garbage. I use mine to grind it up fine for the vaporizer.


I just feel like with quality stuff, more sticks to the damn thing than is worth the trouble.
 
2013-03-25 02:34:04 PM  

Aigoo: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

/bangsheadondesk

It doesn't matter what he saw, you idiot, you don't have to let him search the car.


Then they call K9 unit and get a for-sure hit. There was no escaping this.

neongoats: It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


Spoken like someone who doesn't use one. I've got two, one only grinds it a little bit and catches the keef at the bottom. The other will grind it really fine for vaporizers. I use it because it makes it a lot easier to handle (like Dro said, no sticky fingers) and it guarantees and even burn throughout.
 
2013-03-25 02:34:04 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


For devices like vaporizers, using a grinder is very beneficial to maintaining a proper air:vape ratio...and no, it isn't for rock hard mexibrick.

/so I've heard
 
2013-03-25 02:35:57 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


They're good for separating out the keef.
 
2013-03-25 02:36:40 PM  

neongoats: DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.

Sticky buds jam those thing up. Why would you destroy some sweet sweet sticky bud by smashing and tearing it. Stuff it whole into a bowl and love it.


Sticky buds jam shiatty grinders that don't have kief collectors for the bud to fall down into post grinding. Grinding makes it smoke better/more even and makes more of the plant available for things like vaporizers to work their magic on.

/or so my friend tells me
 
2013-03-25 02:36:43 PM  

neongoats: DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.

Sticky buds jam those thing up. Why would you destroy some sweet sweet sticky bud by smashing and tearing it. Stuff it whole into a bowl and love it.


What scientist told you that bud loses its potancy if you "smash and tear" it apart?
 
2013-03-25 02:36:51 PM  
Good thing they caught that dangerous criminal. He might have gone out and murdered a bag of funyuns or maybe some doritos.

Taxpayer money put to good use. Good job, officer.
 
2013-03-25 02:37:20 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Spoken like someone who doesn't use one. I've got two, one only grinds it a little bit and catches the keef at the bottom. The other will grind it really fine for vaporizers. I use it because it makes it a lot easier to handle (like Dro said, no sticky fingers) and it guarantees and even burn throughout.


Doh - you beat me to it.
 
2013-03-25 02:37:24 PM  
"potency"
 
2013-03-25 02:37:42 PM  

argylez: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

For devices like vaporizers, using a grinder is very beneficial to maintaining a proper air:vape ratio...and no, it isn't for rock hard mexibrick.

/so I've heard


I guess I can see that. In my experience though anything decent/sticky I end up spending more time digging stuck chunks out of it than I would have spent just tearing it apart.
 
2013-03-25 02:38:07 PM  
So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?
 
2013-03-25 02:40:50 PM  

Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?


More than likely yes. THC is a cough expectorant and inhaling it is a good way to make you cough. Also the vapor is still at a relatively high temperature (depending on the person, some set theirs lower but I find mine works best around 410 degrees) and inhaling hot things can irritate your lungs. I would stick to edibles if I had horrible reactions to smoke inhalation instead of vaporizers. It could also work out for you too, I would give it a shot if you have the means.
 
2013-03-25 02:43:03 PM  

Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?


If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.
 
2013-03-25 02:43:07 PM  

content.internetvideoarchive.com
You ARE freaking out.
Man.
 
2013-03-25 02:43:11 PM  

Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?


probably not but they are going to need a really good vap. Vaporizers can still combust the material. The trick is to dial in the temp so it does not burn. Some are better than others at this.
 
2013-03-25 02:45:04 PM  

natmar_76: Good thing they caught that dangerous criminal. He might have gone out and murdered a bag of funyuns or maybe some doritos.

Taxpayer money put to good use. Good job, officer.


Ehhh although I don't believe that MJ impairs you to anywhere near a level that alcohol does, this is akin to popping open a beer and chugging with a cop car sitting next to you at a light. You're stupid and deserve to be punished. He's giving all the other responsible smokers a bad name.
 
2013-03-25 02:46:17 PM  

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?


if she lets the cops search the vehicle without a warrant then she's cooperating and no charges are filed against her, since the cop didn't see her do anything wrong.
If she makes him get a warrant then there was a warrant for the search of her vehicle and drugs were found- the fact that the cop saw her friend smoking them means they both get charged.

Basically she let her friend pay for his dumb mistake rather than going down with him.
 
2013-03-25 02:46:20 PM  

neongoats: sammyk: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I suppose you could use it for that. Wouldn't know, I wont smoke that garbage. I use mine to grind it up fine for the vaporizer.

I just feel like with quality stuff, more sticks to the damn thing than is worth the trouble.


Yep, keep a pen knife handy to dig it out of the grinder.
 
2013-03-25 02:46:32 PM  
So is this what we're talking about? And why is this a "pollen grinder"? And why do they think I'm buying this when I ask where the coffee grinders are?
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-03-25 02:46:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: natmar_76: Good thing they caught that dangerous criminal. He might have gone out and murdered a bag of funyuns or maybe some doritos.

Taxpayer money put to good use. Good job, officer.

Ehhh although I don't believe that MJ impairs you to anywhere near a level that alcohol does, this is akin to popping open a beer and chugging with a cop car sitting next to you at a light. You're stupid and deserve to be punished. He's giving all the other responsible smokers a bad name.


Agreed. Be aware of your surroundings. Unagi.
 
2013-03-25 02:46:56 PM  

Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?


A vaporizer is WAY easier on the lungs. But it depends on which part of the smoke you react to.

The vapor is not as hot, and it does not contain soot or smoke. But it does contain a warm vapor of chemicals so who knows.

I have asthma and when it is acting up I switch to the volcano and it is MUCH less irritating.
 
2013-03-25 02:47:17 PM  

neongoats: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.


Have you ever actually had that happen to you? I'm honestly curious not calling you a liar or anything. I could see someone doing some dumb shiat whilst curing the weed but why would I spray it with hairspray or perfume? Don't most people who smoke know what pot smells/tastes like enough to pick out hairspray or perfume? If I was buying pot from someone and it smelled like hairspray I would probably not continue the transaction.
 
2013-03-25 02:47:40 PM  

scottydoesntknow: although I don't believe that MJ impairs you to anywhere near a level that alcohol does, this is akin to popping open a beer and chugging with a cop car sitting next to you at a light. You're stupid and deserve to be punished.


Yeah, I'm not sure where we should draw the line on "Driving while impaired" with weed, but this dude definitely fails some kind of IQ test.
 
2013-03-25 02:47:55 PM  

scottydoesntknow: natmar_76: Good thing they caught that dangerous criminal. He might have gone out and murdered a bag of funyuns or maybe some doritos.

Taxpayer money put to good use. Good job, officer.

Ehhh although I don't believe that MJ impairs you to anywhere near a level that alcohol does, this is akin to popping open a beer and chugging with a cop car sitting next to you at a light. You're stupid and deserve to be punished. He's giving all the other responsible smokers a bad name.


Actually it is equivalent to the passenger of your car cracking a beer and enjoying it while you drive. (still illegal though)

They didn't charge the driver of the vehicle which is nice I guess
 
2013-03-25 02:48:24 PM  

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?


Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what
 
2013-03-25 02:48:28 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: CaptSacto: Uh... how fast are we going, man?

How's my driving?

I think we're parked, man.


i759.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-25 02:49:02 PM  

Let's see.  Where did this happen? Oh. Right...

i466.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-25 02:49:24 PM  
  encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-25 02:51:58 PM  
vapestore.co.za
 
2013-03-25 02:52:10 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: So is this what we're talking about? And why is this a "pollen grinder"? And why do they think I'm buying this when I ask where the coffee grinders are?
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Because one slang word for the THC crystals (or "keef" as most peopel call it) is pollen. It coats the buds, kinda like pollen does. So when you're grinding it up, the screen filters out the plant and the "pollen" collecting it at the bottom to top off anything you want with it.

/Had a buddy in college that used an electric coffee grinder
//It wasted sooooo much. I could scrape the sides and have 4 bowls worth
 
2013-03-25 02:53:24 PM  
I noticed a rise in mexiblock after the nafta debacle.

There used to be so much good schwag, what happened?

Heidi is too much for me, fark mexiblock.

Also pretty sure mexiblock is "Round-Up-ready."
 
2013-03-25 02:53:43 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.

Have you ever actually had that happen to you? I'm honestly curious not calling you a liar or anything. I could see someone doing some dumb shiat whilst curing the weed but why would I spray it with hairspray or perfume? Don't most people who smoke know what pot smells/tastes like enough to pick out hairspray or perfume? If I was buying pot from someone and it smelled like hairspray I would probably not continue the transaction.


A few times, as a new smoker. I didn't try pot till I was 30, so I was pretty naive. Most of the time it was getting it from a friend who was getting it from whoever was the lowest price, lol.

It's a few of the things they do to terrible middies.. microwave with orange or lemon peel to fluff up and make it smell good.. aqua net to make it feel sticky to the touch. Once found a couple steel bb's jammed into buds(weigh it down).

/only smoke from growers I personally know, now.
 
2013-03-25 02:54:20 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


Essentially accurate.  Anyone that says otherwise is probably in the latter category.
 
2013-03-25 02:54:29 PM  

MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what


I've successfully declined a police search and had drugs in the car. He handed me a ticket for an unsafe lane change and asked if he could search the car and all I said was "I respectfully decline your search sir" and he told me I was free to go. Of course I'm assuming I caught the cop on a good day or something since even I'm still kinda shocked it worked, but people should at least try to decline their search.
 
2013-03-25 02:54:35 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.

Have you ever actually had that happen to you? I'm honestly curious not calling you a liar or anything. I could see someone doing some dumb shiat whilst curing the weed but why would I spray it with hairspray or perfume? Don't most people who smoke know what pot smells/tastes like enough to pick out hairspray or perfume? If I was buying pot from someone and it smelled like hairspray I would probably not continue the transaction.


People for years have claimed "laced" weed etc etc. This is mostly propaganda. Drug dealers don't tend to put more expensive drugs on pot. NOW having said that accepting something being passed around is a whole different ballgame.People have been known to smoke all sorts of things on top of pot.

Perfumy pot etc is a telltale sign that the product is starting to get moldy. It won't kill you but it means if you have a bunch of it you better get rid of it.
 
2013-03-25 02:54:50 PM  
I saw something like that once. I-20 headed West near Arlington, TX. Huge jam in the right lane. Traffic is going full speed except that lane. I finally get out of the lane and look at the delay and there's a car full of bros smoking out of the biggest bong I'd ever seen while driving about 15mph in the right lane.
 
2013-03-25 02:55:12 PM  
cops are scum
stoners are stupid
sky is blue
water is wet.
 
2013-03-25 02:55:54 PM  
i146.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-25 03:00:00 PM  

lantawa: Let's see.  Where did this happen? Oh. Right...

[i466.photobucket.com image 400x303]


This is SPARKIN
highroulette.com
 
2013-03-25 03:00:28 PM  

Treygreen13: I saw something like that once. I-20 headed West near Arlington, TX. Huge jam in the right lane. Traffic is going full speed except that lane. I finally get out of the lane and look at the delay and there's a car full of bros smoking out of the biggest bong I'd ever seen while driving about 15mph in the right lane.


So "tuesday rush hour" then?
 
2013-03-25 03:00:30 PM  

neongoats: karmaceutical: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I used to know a dude (kind of like Strawberry, I guess) who would take his whole sack and dump it in a little blender to grind up, stems seeds and all.  Gross.

I mean, I could almost live with stems, but weed with seeds in it? ewwww.


I know.  Harsh times.  The bet you could hope for back then was decent outdoor that the grower cared enough about to cure and pack gently.  High quality indoor was around, but who had that kind of money? The bricks of brown frown got you through the lean winters.  Things were tough all over...
 
2013-03-25 03:00:50 PM  

scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle, he found one small plastic bag containing less than 50 grams of marijuana,
So they found between 1 gram and 1.8 OUNCES of pot...
Nice reporting there, Lou


I'm guessing 50 grams is the threshold between two levels of possession charges.
 
2013-03-25 03:01:02 PM  

kindms: Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.

Have you ever actually had that happen to you? I'm honestly curious not calling you a liar or anything. I could see someone doing some dumb shiat whilst curing the weed but why would I spray it with hairspray or perfume? Don't most people who smoke know what pot smells/tastes like enough to pick out hairspray or perfume? If I was buying pot from someone and it smelled like hairspray I would probably not continue the transaction.

People for years have claimed "laced" weed etc etc. This is mostly propaganda. Drug dealers don't tend to put more expensive drugs on pot. NOW having said that accepting something being passed around is a whole different ballgame.People have been known to smoke all sorts of things on top of pot.

Perfumy pot etc is a telltale sign that the product is starting to get moldy. It won't kill you but it means if you have a bunch of it you better get rid of it.


There's an additive called tasty puff or something.

/its nasty.
 
2013-03-25 03:01:27 PM  
You mean we're smoking dogsh*t man?!!
 
2013-03-25 03:05:43 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.

Sticky buds jam those thing up. Why would you destroy some sweet sweet sticky bud by smashing and tearing it. Stuff it whole into a bowl and love it.


you should break it up first to be certain there isnt a pod of seeds in the middle of that whole bud or stems.. it also burns more evenly when its not just a nugget in a bowl. am i right? and sometimes you cant tell the density of a bud and they fluff out after being broken up, so you get a smoother burn and it gives you an extra bowl to smoke.

\not that i would know
 
2013-03-25 03:06:45 PM  

MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what


You sir are either lying, or a fool.  I know a dozen lawyers that would salivate at taking a case like that to court.  That's a $500k settlement just waiting to happen.

I've had something similar happen, and I refused the search.  I was not arrested, and I demanded to be allowed to leave since they had no reason to hold me.  When they refused, I demanded a sergeant on scene.  The two officers looked at each other, looked at me, and said "you are free to go" they got in their car and left before I even started mine.

You should really find out what your rights are, and how to enact them.  The cops aren't going to make it easy, but they have to play by the rules, or you get a pay day.
 
2013-03-25 03:06:47 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.

Have you ever actually had that happen to you? I'm honestly curious not calling you a liar or anything. I could see someone doing some dumb shiat whilst curing the weed but why would I spray it with hairspray or perfume? Don't most people who smoke know what pot smells/tastes like enough to pick out hairspray or perfume? If I was buying pot from someone and it smelled like hairspray I would probably not continue the transaction.


www.herbsmoke.com

People actually use these. If you don't know your provider you very well may have ingested some of these flavors.
 
2013-03-25 03:07:04 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

More than likely yes. THC is a cough expectorant and inhaling it is a good way to make you cough. Also the vapor is still at a relatively high temperature (depending on the person, some set theirs lower but I find mine works best around 410 degrees) and inhaling hot things can irritate your lungs. I would stick to edibles if I had horrible reactions to smoke inhalation instead of vaporizers. It could also work out for you too, I would give it a shot if you have the means.


It isn't for myself, but thanks for the advice, I want to know if I'd be wasting my money on a gift or not.
 
2013-03-25 03:07:22 PM  
from TFA: A 20-year-old woman driving a silver Honda Civic stopped a red light

She must be pretty hot if she can stop traffic lights.
 
2013-03-25 03:08:03 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.

Sticky buds jam those thing up. Why would you destroy some sweet sweet sticky bud by smashing and tearing it. Stuff it whole into a bowl and love it.

Sticky buds jam shiatty grinders that don't have kief collectors for the bud to fall down into post grinding. Grinding makes it smoke better/more even and makes more of the plant available for things like vaporizers to work their magic on.

/or so my friend tells me


So could you use a high quality burr grinder on say, French press setting to do the job? It seems like it would be a pain to clean either way.
 
2013-03-25 03:12:04 PM  

Kahabut: MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what

You sir are either lying, or a fool.  I know a dozen lawyers that would salivate at taking a case like that to court.  That's a $500k settlement just waiting to happen.

I've had something similar happen, and I refused the search.   ...


What if you are too poor to afford a lawyer- or else too intimidated by the process because you don't know your options?
 
2013-03-25 03:13:53 PM  
He was going to roll a fatty at home but then he got high
 
2013-03-25 03:17:10 PM  

Nadie_AZ: What if you are too poor to afford a lawyer- or else too intimidated by the process because you don't know your options?


Usually, in rights violation cases such as this, the lawyer will agree to work for a percentage of the settlement, and won't get paid until after the case is over.  If you're too intimidated by the process or don't know your options, maybe you should quit doing things that are illegal, or read some books on drug laws, your rights as a citizen where you live, and case history involving those rights.
 
2013-03-25 03:17:11 PM  
Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Weed: Whatever they smoke, I'll tell you where its NOT grown...Mexico. Farkers grow their own exotic plants and its the only stuff that they smoke. It doesn't matter how you smoke your weed, you're doing it wrong. The papers they smoke are better than yours. The bong is bigger and has more arms than yours. Etc.

Guns: They've all got machine guns that military personnel crave. Each Farker is an army of one. However, they never mention their guns straight-on. It's always part of a back0handed compliment to themselves. "That guy in the article killed the kids with a shotgun so now they want to regulate them? I have four sawed-off shotguns, two AR15s and a box of grenades but I'm not going to hurt any kids. Why do I have to go through a background check?"


/I need to party with y'all.
 
2013-03-25 03:17:45 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Kahabut: MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle


~~~~

What if you are too poor to afford a lawyer- or else too intimidated by the process because you don't know your options?

First, you are never too poor for a lawyer.  If you have been wronged, especially by the police, you will have little trouble finding a lawyer.  Cash out of pocket is not required, despite what many people think.   (actually, some cash is required, but as little as 1$, have to have a legal retainer)

Second, the law is around you, there are websites that specialize in having lawyers argue on forums like this about legal questions.  Track one down and start asking questions.

Third, seriously, if something like this happens to you, find a lawyer, ask them if they want the case.  It costs nothing for a consult with a good lawyer.
 
2013-03-25 03:18:31 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Weed: Whatever they smoke, I'll tell you where its NOT grown...Mexico. Farkers grow their own exotic plants and its the only stuff that they smoke. It doesn't matter how you smoke your weed, you're doing it wrong. The papers they smoke are better than yours. The bong is bigger and has more arms than yours. Etc.

Guns: They've all got machine guns that military personnel crave. Each Farker is an army of one. However, they never mention their guns straight-on. It's always part of a back0handed compliment to themselves. "That guy in the article killed the kids with a shotgun so now they want to regulate them? I have four sawed-off shotguns, two AR15s and a box of grenades but I'm not going to hurt any kids. Why do I have to go through a background check?"


/I need to party with y'all.


That sounds like the intro to a next-gen leisure suit larry game.
 
2013-03-25 03:19:22 PM  

rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.


teh weed now is so good and sticky that you cant crumble it up or your hands will feel like there is glue on them, and if you dont grind it, teh joint will not burn evenly.  sorry about your mexican brick weed in the gas tank youth !!@
 
2013-03-25 03:20:27 PM  

Farce-Side: Nadie_AZ: What if you are too poor to afford a lawyer- or else too intimidated by the process because you don't know your options?

Usually, in rights violation cases such as this, the lawyer will agree to work for a percentage of the settlement, and won't get paid until after the case is over.   If you're too intimidated by the process or don't know your options, maybe you should quit doing things that are illegal, or read some books on drug laws, your rights as a citizen where you live, and case history involving those rights.


What the hell? The above story said he had done nothing wrong and still got his car turned inside out. What did he do that was illegal?
 
2013-03-25 03:22:35 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Weed: Whatever they smoke, I'll tell you where its NOT grown...Mexico. Farkers grow their own exotic plants and its the only stuff that they smoke. It doesn't matter how you smoke your weed, you're doing it wrong. The papers they smoke are better than yours. The bong is bigger and has more arms than yours. Etc.

Guns: They've all got machine guns that military personnel crave. Each Farker is an army of one. However, they never mention their guns straight-on. It's always part of a back0handed compliment to themselves. "That guy in the article killed the kids with a shotgun so now they want to regulate them? I have four sawed-off shotguns, two AR15s and a box of grenades but I'm not going to hurt any kids. Why do I have to go through a background check?"


/I need to party with y'all.


Don't you know, we're all doctors/lawyers/internet entrepreneurs who built our own mega mansions with our bare hands, have a minor in horticulture, spend all our time with our interesting and quirky friends who are way better than regular people and are connected and hip (when we're not counting our money), and we're too smart for religion, buying in to anything mainstream, or falling for "trolls" who express any differing opinions.  If you deny any of this, you're argument is automatically a logical fallacy, ad hominem, or you're just an idiot.
 
2013-03-25 03:22:59 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


every grower and glass blower i know in oregon has a grinder. it is for better weed not shiattier.  nobody smokes mexican weed anymore, where do you live, even in Mexico they buy weed form california ?  mexcans are mostly into meth and coke now
 
2013-03-25 03:23:04 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Weed: Whatever they smoke, I'll tell you where its NOT grown...Mexico. Farkers grow their own exotic plants and its the only stuff that they smoke. It doesn't matter how you smoke your weed, you're doing it wrong. The papers they smoke are better than yours. The bong is bigger and has more arms than yours. Etc.

Guns: They've all got machine guns that military personnel crave. Each Farker is an army of one. However, they never mention their guns straight-on. It's always part of a back0handed compliment to themselves. "That guy in the article killed the kids with a shotgun so now they want to regulate them? I have four sawed-off shotguns, two AR15s and a box of grenades but I'm not going to hurt any kids. Why do I have to go through a background check?"


/I need to party with y'all.


Well, okay, but only if my super-model wife gives her approval
 
2013-03-25 03:24:23 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: lantawa: Let's see.  Where did this happen? Oh. Right...

[i466.photobucket.com image 400x303]

This is SPARKIN
[highroulette.com image 500x331]


That is wrong. You are sending pieces of burning flint onto your good good. If you must use a lighter, ignite it away from the herb then bring the flame to it. This also helps you keep from accidentally burning fur off your face.


/themoreyouknow.jpg
 
2013-03-25 03:24:43 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Farce-Side: Nadie_AZ: What if you are too poor to afford a lawyer- or else too intimidated by the process because you don't know your options?

Usually, in rights violation cases such as this, the lawyer will agree to work for a percentage of the settlement, and won't get paid until after the case is over.   If you're too intimidated by the process or don't know your options, maybe you should quit doing things that are illegal, or read some books on drug laws, your rights as a citizen where you live, and case history involving those rights.

What the hell? The above story said he had done nothing wrong and still got his car turned inside out. What did he do that was illegal?


I know, I just like to add trolly tidbits in replies sometimes.
 
2013-03-25 03:25:07 PM  

Mimic_Octopus: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

every grower and glass blower i know in oregon has a grinder. it is for better weed not shiattier.  nobody smokes mexican weed anymore, where do you live, even in Mexico they buy weed form california ?  mexcans are mostly into meth and coke now


I live in Ohio, trust me, I'm looking to leave. This place is a rustbelt wasteland.
 
2013-03-25 03:25:43 PM  

hufnmouth: Well, this is Sparta.


LOL, I was wondering if anyone had picked up on that...
 
2013-03-25 03:27:06 PM  

WillyChase: Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.

Sticky buds jam those thing up. Why would you destroy some sweet sweet sticky bud by smashing and tearing it. Stuff it whole into a bowl and love it.

Sticky buds jam shiatty grinders that don't have kief collectors for the bud to fall down into post grinding. Grinding makes it smoke better/more even and makes more of the plant available for things like vaporizers to work their magic on.

/or so my friend tells me

So could you use a high quality burr grinder on say, French press setting to do the job? It seems like it would be a pain to clean either way.


I guess you could do that but I would only do that if you had a really large amount you needed to grind for some reason. The grinders everyone in here are referencing are handheld metal things (there's a pick of a cheaper one in the article). Those ones are a bit harder to use since there is nowhere for the weed to go once ground up. There are some that are around 30 bucks that have an area that allows the weed to fall onto a screen once it's been ground up. The screen also filters out kief which is nice since it allows you to save some and then sprinkle on top of or into some weed to make it more potent if you feel like getting really ripped for some reason.
 
2013-03-25 03:27:24 PM  

Farce-Side: Nadie_AZ: Farce-Side: Nadie_AZ: What if you are too poor to afford a lawyer- or else too intimidated by the process because you don't know your options?

Usually, in rights violation cases such as this, the lawyer will agree to work for a percentage of the settlement, and won't get paid until after the case is over.   If you're too intimidated by the process or don't know your options, maybe you should quit doing things that are illegal, or read some books on drug laws, your rights as a citizen where you live, and case history involving those rights.

What the hell? The above story said he had done nothing wrong and still got his car turned inside out. What did he do that was illegal?

I know, I just like to add trolly tidbits in replies sometimes.


Ah. Well, it rustled my jimmies for a bit. I got over it. No worries.
 
2013-03-25 03:27:25 PM  
Sparta is not far from me. Nice town. Cops sometimes have cars pulled apart on Rt.15. White boy morans who couldn't wait to get home from Newark to shoot their dope. They get busted toting a supply. Idiots.
 
2013-03-25 03:28:34 PM  
Kahabut:
You sir are either lying, or a fool.  I know a dozen lawyers that would salivate at taking a case like that to court.  That's a $500k settlement just waiting to happen.

I've had something similar happen, and I refused the search.   ...



LOL. Look at this guy who thinks that the justice system works for everyone. Ever seen a Fark thread about a monority who commits a criminal act? Think about all of the bile that gets spewed about the alleged perpetrator. Think about how easily they are convicted in the court of public opinion and how their "culture" is cited as a contributiing factor to their delinquency.

Now, imagine if the people who believe this stuff aren't just anonymous people on a computer, they are society. They are the judges, the police, the prosecutors, the potential jurors...

Who would believe some probably pot head over an officer of the law? The dog can't talk so you can't call it up to the stand to ask it if it really detected drugs. It will cost you a lot of money and the return would be MUCH less that you apparently believe. Life isn't an episode of "Law & Order".
 
2013-03-25 03:29:49 PM  
I wouldn't date your daughter if she had ten tits!
 
2013-03-25 03:30:46 PM  
It's Sparta New Jersey....rich, white entitled kids. They don't have to worry about getting into any serious trouble as NJ, as of late, has been not bothering to prosecute weed offenses.
 
2013-03-25 03:31:11 PM  

rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.


You put your WEED in there!
 
2013-03-25 03:33:05 PM  

MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what


sounds like you need a lawyer's # on your cell
 
2013-03-25 03:38:15 PM  
No man! The other movie!

v021o.popscreen.com
 
2013-03-25 03:38:27 PM  
karmaceutical:
Well, okay, but only if my super-model wife gives her approval

Lol. Funny thing is, on the whole, people are pretty honest about their romantic lives/ wives/ girlfriends. Farkers will tell you in a minute that they're depressed and lonely, just not in those words. They express it through misogyny and crude humor about where the psnis goes and what the woman's place is. The ones in relationships don't really exagerrate how beautiful their significant others are. They may exagerrate their position in the relationship though. Like the guy who acts like his wife celebrates steak and BJ day when in reality he can't get a dry hand job on his birthday.
 
2013-03-25 03:40:15 PM  
the dude should have used the giant rolling paper that came with one of cheech & chongs earlier albums.
 
2013-03-25 03:41:02 PM  

ReverendJynxed: FARK rebel soldier: lantawa: Let's see.  Where did this happen? Oh. Right...

[i466.photobucket.com image 400x303]

This is SPARKIN
[highroulette.com image 500x331]

That is wrong. You are sending pieces of burning flint onto your good good. If you must use a lighter, ignite it away from the herb then bring the flame to it. This also helps you keep from accidentally burning fur off your face.


/themoreyouknow.jpg


or go with an electric(piezo) lighter. you also fumble with them a TON less. no more frustrating *flickflickflickflick.... shake... flick flick flick* amateur-hour shenanigans.  just *click* and light.

you can even get the piezo-ignition lighters in torch variety, hotter, bigger flame, faster light. but that's a personal preference thing.

/i know some people who opted for full electric and have heater-wire equipped bowls. dunno how i feel about that, but i don't think nichrome off-gasses. not after the first few warmups at least.

you can eve get those
 
2013-03-25 03:42:47 PM  

kindms: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

probably not but they are going to need a really good vap. Vaporizers can still combust the material. The trick is to dial in the temp so it does not burn. Some are better than others at this.


A better way to go is to make your own vape at home for about $5.  All you need is a stainless steel holder of some sort, a round coffee scoop or something.   Make a chimney out of aluminum foil just slightly smaller than the scoop.  Then cut the top off of a 2 liter bottle and attach a tube to it, the outside of a pen works well.  Use a lighter to heat up the bottom of the scoop, put the 2 liter over the top of the chimney to catch the smoke, and inhale.   Zero risk of ignition because the flame never touches the weed.
 
2013-03-25 03:42:47 PM  
We're still arresting people for this??
 
2013-03-25 03:42:49 PM  
The drug war is a total failure. It costs more than any perceived government 'savings', and has a negligible effect as drugs are still available everywhere.
 
2013-03-25 03:42:55 PM  

Kahabut: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

Essentially accurate.  Anyone that says otherwise is probably in the latter category.


Wrong, I'm very opposed ot owning anything hippy/420YEAH vibe, IE no tacky shiat. A plain wooden cigar box for my bag of 'stuff', roller/papers, and small wooden grinder. The grinder was my first one despite knowing the uses for many many years purely because I didnt want to look like that pot guy with all the corny shiat.

CBS: Pre rolled cones are the bomb. Can't stuff nugs into that. Also I sometimes enjoy grinding a little tobacco WITH the weed, so it grinds all fine together, spliff style.
 
2013-03-25 03:44:27 PM  

Godscrack: [img801.imageshack.us image 800x693]

Whoa. I just made this for a PS contest last week. And now this thread is here.

THIS MEANS SOMETHING.


goldenageofgaia.com
mashed taters....or it didn't happen.
 
2013-03-25 03:46:56 PM  

karmaceutical: DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Weed: Whatever they smoke, I'll tell you where its NOT grown...Mexico. Farkers grow their own exotic plants and its the only stuff that they smoke. It doesn't matter how you smoke your weed, you're doing it wrong. The papers they smoke are better than yours. The bong is bigger and has more arms than yours. Etc.

Guns: They've all got machine guns that military personnel crave. Each Farker is an army of one. However, they never mention their guns straight-on. It's always part of a back0handed compliment to themselves. "That guy in the article killed the kids with a shotgun so now they want to regulate them? I have four sawed-off shotguns, two AR15s and a box of grenades but I'm not going to hurt any kids. Why do I have to go through a background check?"


/I need to party with y'all.

Well, okay, but only if my super-model wife gives her approval


Awesome! We can party on my yacht, as we pull in to port in Monaco.
 
2013-03-25 03:49:39 PM  
(Hushed whisper:) "This IS Dave, man!  Let me IN, man!"
 
2013-03-25 03:54:38 PM  

JohnnyCanuck: You put your WEED in there!


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-25 03:55:26 PM  
It pisses me off so bad that theres any effort wasted on enforcing laws against grass. That show WEED COUNTRY was on yesterday, and just its existence enraged me. What a waste of tax dollars, time, man power, jail space, time in court. The whole notion is enough to drive a person mad. I need to take a whack to calm down here....
 
2013-03-25 04:00:15 PM  

dv-ous: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Because they're the kind of idiot who drives while high.


No, because failure to do so means you still have to do it when you are taken down town and by then it's a much bigger deal. The cop had reasonable cause.  Also you notice that the driver/owner of the car did not get into trouble, just the idiot who was rolling the J.  Had the driver/owner kicked up a fuss, they would have impounded the car.

Unlike what some armchair lawyers may say, there is normally nothing at all gained by being adversarial to the cops.

The failure here is not the rules of evidence or unreasonable searches.  The failure here is that possession is criminal AT ALL.  If we just went back to a time when the cops actually protected and served and weren't soldiers in the war against drugs we might all be much safer and less involved in the criminal justice system.
 
2013-03-25 04:00:19 PM  
I wish I understood what you people are talking about in this thread.  WTF is a pre rolled cone?

/you know what I mean when I say "you people"
 
2013-03-25 04:02:04 PM  

Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?


There is research that shows though a vaporizor it acts as a bronchodialator (it actually opens your airways).  My wife called BS until one of her medical journals published similar findings.  Shes an MD.

Just an fyi - if your weed is too 'sticky' it's not properly cured.
 
2013-03-25 04:02:55 PM  

neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.


They work well for incredibly dense and sticky bud ...and if you vaporize they are the best way to get a consistent grind to your product.
/no sticky,smelly fingers...unless your mom drops by
 
2013-03-25 04:03:11 PM  

Heathen: I wish I understood what you people are talking about in this thread. WTF is a pre rolled cone?


Take a sheet of paper and twist it until you have a cone shape (one end very small, and the other larger). Now imagine that shrunk down to the size of a small cigar and made out of smoking paper (usually the harder cigar kind) They sell pre-rolled cigar papers shaped like a cone, usually with a wooden tip for your lips. You stuff the goods into the cone until it's tight and then it's ready to go. Usually come in flavors too.
 
2013-03-25 04:05:15 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.


Ok, This part made me laugh so hard people down the hall came by to ask me why I was cracking up. Asian Gymnast Vagina just became my new favorite band name
 
2013-03-25 04:05:32 PM  

MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what


I had a similar experience going south across the border. I was selected for a 'random search' though ok what ever. I was driving a '94 caravan at the time. I go into the building and there are 2 agents waiting for me. The first guy asks if I've ever been arrested or been to prison, including the drunk tank. I said no and the second agent chuckled and said 'yeah, that's what the last guy said'. They asked for my keys and I handed them over. I had a small collapsable pair of scissors on the key chain so the agent asked if I had any drugs in the car. Again, I said no and again the other agent chcukled with another quip about the last guy. They spent 45 minutes going through my van and found nothing. When they got back in I asked if I could go. They sounded pissed off because they couldn't find anything.

/this was 16 yrs ago, can't imagine how they are now.
//of course, when I moved to the states the agent didn't seem all that happy that she couldn't deny me access and that was 2002. I'm thinking they need to hire happier folks.
 
2013-03-25 04:10:56 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

He'd already seen the pot. He would have just called the dog, making her wait longer for the same conclusion.


You don't ever consent to a search. Not ever, ever, ever. And just to be clear: NEVER.

Suppose the cop decides that a minor pot bust isn't worth his time, so he decides to plant an 8 ball or a .45. You've already signed off and effectively surrendered any defense you could possibly have.
 
2013-03-25 04:10:56 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Weed: Whatever they smoke, I'll tell you where its NOT grown...Mexico. Farkers grow their own exotic plants and its the only stuff that they smoke. It doesn't matter how you smoke your weed, you're doing it wrong. The papers they smoke are better than yours. The bong is bigger and has more arms than yours. Etc.

Guns: They've all got machine guns that military personnel crave. Each Farker is an army of one. However, they never mention their guns straight-on. It's always part of a back0handed compliment to themselves. "That guy in the article killed the kids with a shotgun so now they want to regulate them? I have four sawed-off shotguns, two AR15s and a box of grenades but I'm not going to hurt any kids. Why do I have to go through a background check?"


/I need to party with y'all.


You should see the Canadian supermodel ass we all get!
 
2013-03-25 04:14:24 PM  

blatz514: [lygsbtd.files.wordpress.com image 800x447]


Led Zeppelin...Led Zeppelin!!
 
2013-03-25 04:14:42 PM  

Spanky3woods: DROxINxTHExWIND: Man, I need to go to one of those Fark events so I can meet some of you people. Farkers have the best of EVERYTHING and their discriminating taste WILL NOT ALLOW them to compromise. Just name a topic:

Beer: The only one they drink comes from the microbrewery that is owned by the brother of a good friend. Its poured over the vagina of an Asian gymnast just before it's bottled for a crisp, clean taste that you just don't get with "regular" beers. Yuengling? FARK NO. They wouldn't be caught dead drinking that piss water.

Ok, This part made me laugh so hard people down the hall came by to ask me why I was cracking up. Asian Gymnast Vagina just became my new favorite band name


My bad. Let me know when the band plays and I'll bring the beer, because you know we can't drink the bullshiat that they'll be selling at the club.
 
2013-03-25 04:15:34 PM  

scottydoesntknow: FARK rebel soldier: So is this what we're talking about? And why is this a "pollen grinder"? And why do they think I'm buying this when I ask where the coffee grinders are?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x281]

Because one slang word for the THC crystals (or "keef" as most peopel call it) is pollen. It coats the buds, kinda like pollen does. So when you're grinding it up, the screen filters out the plant and the "pollen" collecting it at the bottom to top off anything you want with it.

/Had a buddy in college that used an electric coffee grinder
//It wasted sooooo much. I could scrape the sides and have 4 bowls worth


i'm all ears for options that work better than a coffee grinder - granted, it does leave a lot behind, but you just need to scrape.
those plastic ones that you do by hand are just worthless and i can't get them to work well

/gardening tips appreciated
//for my 'friend'
 
2013-03-25 04:20:54 PM  

colon_pow: the dude should have used the giant rolling paper that came with one of cheech & chongs earlier albums.


Big Bambu, if memory serves...hadn't thought of that album in years.  Thanks!
 
2013-03-25 04:22:29 PM  
SixPaperJoint:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

First thing I thought of after seeing your name.
 
2013-03-25 04:23:06 PM  

inner ted: i'm all ears for options that work better than a coffee grinder - granted, it does leave a lot behind, but you just need to scrape.
those plastic ones that you do by hand are just worthless and i can't get them to work well

/gardening tips appreciated
//for my 'friend'


You need to find a nice solid metal one with heavy teeth. They shouldn't form a point either, otherwise you're just stabbing the stuff when closing it. They should either be cylindrical, or diamond shaped, but flat on the bottom. Then you need to decide whether you want it to filter through little holes once it reaches a certain size (like in the picture FARK rebel soldier posted), or just continuously grind. Personally I like the ones with holes because it will catch the shake at the bottom which you can then layer on top for an extra kick (a reeeeaaalllly good kick). The ones that keep grinding will need to be cleaned every now and then (the keef will build up).

Those ones you see at the local gas stations or random places really blow. If you care, go to an actual head shop and you'll find a good one...for your friend of course.
 
2013-03-25 04:25:09 PM  

Girion47: Communist_Manifesto: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

More than likely yes. THC is a cough expectorant and inhaling it is a good way to make you cough. Also the vapor is still at a relatively high temperature (depending on the person, some set theirs lower but I find mine works best around 410 degrees) and inhaling hot things can irritate your lungs. I would stick to edibles if I had horrible reactions to smoke inhalation instead of vaporizers. It could also work out for you too, I would give it a shot if you have the means.


Seems...high? I don't know that I've gone over 300 yet.  Also don't know that the temp displayed is at all accurate, but, seems like that would ignite for sure.
 
2013-03-25 04:25:36 PM  

Kahabut: MountainClimber: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

Uncool Story Bro,

Back in the early 90's I was driving back to my parents in Indiana from Denver at Christmas time. I was stopped on the Illinois side of Quad cities for "speeding" doing 60 in a 55 zone. The only reason I was stopped because I had Colorado license plates I'm sure. The officer who reminded my of Louis Gossett did the "warning" for speeding speech then asked if I was carrying any "illegal drugs, weapons or alcohol". I told him "No" as i wasn't. Not happy with this answer he asked if he could "voluntarily" search my vehicle. I declined at which point he told me I was under arrest for suspicion of transporting illegal drugs. He put me in his car and proceeded to do a cursory search of the front of my vehicle. He came back and said he had found a pot seed and demanded to know where the drugs were. I knew he was lying and told him there weren't any. He never produced or showed said "pot seed". He called back up to bring a K9 unit to sweep my truck. Five vehicles showed with a dog to search my truck. They informed me the dog showed positive signs and to make it easy on myself to tell them where the drugs were hidden. There were none, I knew this so the proceeded to tear apart my luggage, wrapped Christmas presents and even the bedliner and body panels of my truck. They never found anything after 2 hours of searching. "Lou Gossett" came back to his car, obviously infuriated they found nothing, told me I had 30 minutes to pick up my stuff from the mud they had thrown it in on the side of the highway and to "be on my way".

So no, you don't have a choice even if you decline a search - They will no matter what

You sir are either lying, or a fool.  I know a dozen lawyers that would salivate at taking a case like that to court.  That's a $500k settlement just waiting to happen.

I've had something similar happen, and I refused the search.   ...


Well, no. You aren't going to win a civil suit and be able to retire because a cop detained you for a few minutes and messed up your luggage.

However, your larger point is right: knowing your rights and letting the cop know that you know your rights, politely, is the best way to go.

Basically if a cop stops you for a valid reason, he can ask you questions. "Do you have any drugs?" "Do you mind if I search your car?" That is all perfectly legal.

What is not legal is for a cop to tell you he is going to have to detain you for 2 hours while he gets the dogs. A cop can detain you for a reasonable amount of time to write a ticket, and that's it. If a cop tells you something like this, just ask him if you are under arrest (which you aren't by definition because he is still looking for what he needs to arrest you), and if not whether you are free to go, and if not, why not.

In the end sure it might not do you any good, and you will get arrested anyway. But by refusing to cooperate, you are ultimately putting the state in a much tougher position to convict you of anything, and making it far more likely the charges will be dropped, which is really all that matters if you think about it.
 
2013-03-25 04:34:17 PM  

flizzard: Girion47: Communist_Manifesto: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

More than likely yes. THC is a cough expectorant and inhaling it is a good way to make you cough. Also the vapor is still at a relatively high temperature (depending on the person, some set theirs lower but I find mine works best around 410 degrees) and inhaling hot things can irritate your lungs. I would stick to edibles if I had horrible reactions to smoke inhalation instead of vaporizers. It could also work out for you too, I would give it a shot if you have the means.

Seems...high? I don't know that I've gone over 300 yet.  Also don't know that the temp displayed is at all accurate, but, seems like that would ignite for sure.


That's fahrenheit, the vaporization temp of THC is around 390 fahrenheit if I remember correctly. It was mainly a trial and error thing, I like the bag to fill with a fairly thick white vapor, been doing it at that temp for years and it seems to work best. Whatever works is my motto
 
2013-03-25 04:39:00 PM  
If the cops ask to search that always means that they don't have a legal right to search. Never give them that right. Remember for the most part cops are like vampires, they can't come in unless you let them.
 
2013-03-25 04:41:38 PM  
Paper doesn't ignite until Fahrenheit 451, man.  Weed ignition temperature has to be higher than that, being all sticky and stuff.
 
2013-03-25 04:42:27 PM  

gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle

why did she do that?

He'd already seen the pot. He would have just called the dog, making her wait longer for the same conclusion.

You don't ever consent to a search. Not ever, ever, ever. And just to be clear: NEVER.

Suppose the cop decides that a minor pot bust isn't worth his time, so he decides to plant an 8 ball or a .45. You've already signed off and effectively surrendered any defense you could possibly have.


I'd like to live in your world where the cops don't just bring the dog and treat any movement he makes as if its a signal that he smells something. And where not consenting to a search lowers the cops antenna and makes him think twice about stashing something in your car. I'm not saying that you should consent, but your scenario is not the reason.
 
2013-03-25 04:43:56 PM  
I get high at NIGHT, when I get through with all my business.

img.tgdaily.net
 
2013-03-25 04:51:41 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I'd like to live in your world where the cops don't just bring the dog and treat any movement he makes as if its a signal that he smells something. And where not consenting to a search lowers the cops antenna and makes him think twice about stashing something in your car. I'm not saying that you should consent, but your scenario is not the reason.


Yeah, New Orleans is just known for its fine upstanding law enforcement officers. I'm sure its MUCH worse where you live.

It doesn't matter what the dog does. If the cops are going to take you to jail they are going to take you to jail. The point is to beat the charge, and politely refusing the police permission to search you means they are going to have to break the law to get one.

Prosecutors are not fond of cases with bad searches. They like, love, cases where it isn't even a search because you consented. It is as simple as that.
 
2013-03-25 04:55:42 PM  
And no, the possibility that a cop might plant something is not the only reason to refuse a search. It is *A* reason to refuse, but certainly not the only one.
 
2013-03-25 04:58:03 PM  

gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: I'd like to live in your world where the cops don't just bring the dog and treat any movement he makes as if its a signal that he smells something. And where not consenting to a search lowers the cops antenna and makes him think twice about stashing something in your car. I'm not saying that you should consent, but your scenario is not the reason.

Yeah, New Orleans is just known for its fine upstanding law enforcement officers. I'm sure its MUCH worse where you live.

It doesn't matter what the dog does. If the cops are going to take you to jail they are going to take you to jail. The point is to beat the charge, and politely refusing the police permission to search you means they are going to have to break the law to get one.

Prosecutors are not fond of cases with bad searches. They like, love, cases where it isn't even a search because you consented. It is as simple as that.


You're presupposing that you will be able to prove that the search was illegal, sir. That's the point. You can refuse all you want. It will more than likely only delay the inevitable. They will find a reason.
 
2013-03-25 05:03:59 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Kahabut:
You sir are either lying, or a fool.  I know a dozen lawyers that would salivate at taking a case like that to court.  That's a $500k settlement just waiting to happen.

I've had something similar happen, and I refused the search.   ...


LOL. Look at this guy who thinks that the justice system works for everyone. Ever seen a Fark thread about a monority who commits a criminal act? Think about all of the bile that gets spewed about the alleged perpetrator. Think about how easily they are convicted in the court of public opinion and how their "culture" is cited as a contributiing factor to their delinquency.

Now, imagine if the people who believe this stuff aren't just anonymous people on a computer, they are society. They are the judges, the police, the prosecutors, the potential jurors...

Who would believe some probably pot head over an officer of the law? The dog can't talk so you can't call it up to the stand to ask it if it really detected drugs. It will cost you a lot of money and the return would be MUCH less that you apparently believe. Life isn't an episode of "Law & Order".


You ever been in a court room?  How about a deposition?  Ever collected evidence for a case EXACTLY like this?

So you really don't know anything except what you see on Law & Order.

On the other hand, I've done all that, and more, and been involved in more than one case like this.  So yeah, pretty much your call.
 
2013-03-25 05:10:05 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: You're presupposing that you will be able to prove that the search was illegal, sir. That's the point. You can refuse all you want. It will more than likely only delay the inevitable. They will find a reason.


No, I am saying it will make it less likely for the DA to accept the charge. Or stated another way, it will give a defense lawyer something to work with, maybe by cutting a deal to get the charge reduced, sent to diversion, or even dropped. No DA wants to take a simple possession case to trial, let alone one he might lose.

There are no guarantees, but signing a consent form is basically handing the DA a slam dunk. If they detain you even for a few minutes to get a dog out there, you have a damn good argument that the search is illegal.
 
2013-03-25 05:21:14 PM  

scottydoesntknow: But when the driver let Grauerholz search the vehicle, he found one small plastic bag containing less than 50 grams of marijuana,

So they found between 1 gram and 1.8 OUNCES of pot...

Nice reporting there, Lou


Yep. In a "small" plastic bag.
 
2013-03-25 05:21:38 PM  

There I Was: colon_pow: the dude should have used the giant rolling paper that came with one of cheech & chongs earlier albums.

Big Bambu, if memory serves...hadn't thought of that album in years.  Thanks!


I have that album.  Used the paper back in middle school, 1978.
 
2013-03-25 05:28:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: I'd like to live in your world where the cops don't just bring the dog and treat any movement he makes as if its a signal that he smells something. And where not consenting to a search lowers the cops antenna and makes him think twice about stashing something in your car. I'm not saying that you should consent, but your scenario is not the reason.

Yeah, New Orleans is just known for its fine upstanding law enforcement officers. I'm sure its MUCH worse where you live.

It doesn't matter what the dog does. If the cops are going to take you to jail they are going to take you to jail. The point is to beat the charge, and politely refusing the police permission to search you means they are going to have to break the law to get one.

Prosecutors are not fond of cases with bad searches. They like, love, cases where it isn't even a search because you consented. It is as simple as that.

You're presupposing that you will be able to prove that the search was illegal, sir. That's the point. You can refuse all you want. It will more than likely only delay the inevitable. They will find a reason.


Look, I'm no legal expert, but I do have more than a couple years working in various portions of the legal system, including law offices.  You really don't have any farking idea what you are talking about.

You sound, if I might suppose,  just like every 20 something stoner I've ever met.  You are, as a group, utterly ignorant of how the law actually works, and at the same time scared of encountering police because you might get "busted".

Do people get framed? Yes, of course they do.  This being reality, and not law & order, that is rare and frankly, YOU aren't worth that kind of effort.

Of course, all my posts assume you are actually innocent of a crime.  If you really do have drugs in your car, as the case clearly is with you, then you aren't getting hustled by the cops, they are in fact doing what people like me pay them to do.  Bust your punk ass.  Which, really, is why you don't like them.
 
2013-03-25 05:33:48 PM  
Weed threads are my favoritestestest threads.
 
2013-03-25 05:42:01 PM  
Communist_Manifesto:

That's fahrenheit, the vaporization temp of THC is around 390 fahrenheit if I remember correctly. It was mainly a trial and error thing, I like the bag to fill with a fairly thick white vapor, been doing it at that temp for years and it seems to work best. Whatever works is my motto

The ignition temp of THC is around 384 degrees, while the more toxic stuff mostly burns at 415 or so.
 
2013-03-25 05:49:24 PM  
The aromatic terpenoids begin to vaporize at 126.0 °C(258.8 °F), but the more bio-active, and do not vaporize until near their respective: THC 149.3 °C(300.7 °F), CBD 206.3 °C(403.3 °F), and CBN 212.7 °C(414.9 °F). - wikipedia

One minute google search, Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo.
 
2013-03-25 05:53:25 PM  
I have that grinder!
 
2013-03-25 06:04:54 PM  

ReverendJynxed: If you must use a lighter,


What do you light every bowl or joint with a hand carved match ? they call it "smoking" weed, how do you do that without fire ?

/(varorizing and eating it  are not and never will be mainstream ways to get a weed high)
 
2013-03-25 06:17:08 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: neongoats: rkiller1: Okay, could someone younger and more hip tell me that this is used for: "...a metallic grinder with marijuana residue..."
/I don't recall such devices at Woodstock.

It's a mostly useless device. They are for grinding up rock hard mexican piss weed. But mostly I think people that like to flaunt their smoking collect useless crap like that.

I see someone who doesn't smoke sticky buds.

/They're good for the prevention of pot fingertips.


Or not losing precious crystals. Apparently the idea of healthy dense nugs is unknown.
 
2013-03-25 06:28:39 PM  

Mimic_Octopus: ReverendJynxed: If you must use a lighter,

What do you light every bowl or joint with a hand carved match ? they call it "smoking" weed, how do you do that without fire ?



Hemp wick.  Light the wick, use the wick to light the bowl slash joint slash whatever.
 
2013-03-25 06:43:44 PM  

Mimic_Octopus: varorizing and eating it  are not and never will be mainstream ways to get a weed high


Only teenagers, concert goers, and old fogies set fire to cannabis.

/smoking is not good for you, mmkay?
 
2013-03-25 06:57:04 PM  
Never met anybody made smarter by weed.

It's called dope for a reason.
 
2013-03-25 06:57:15 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Communist_Manifesto:

That's fahrenheit, the vaporization temp of THC is around 390 fahrenheit if I remember correctly. It was mainly a trial and error thing, I like the bag to fill with a fairly thick white vapor, been doing it at that temp for years and it seems to work best. Whatever works is my motto

The ignition temp of THC is around 384 degrees, while the more toxic stuff mostly burns at 415 or so.


Do you have a citation for that because I went looking and could only find uncited info? Also, what's this toxic stuff you speak of? Is ignition temp the same as the temp that it goes from a liquid to a solid?

/honestly asking no snark
 
2013-03-25 06:58:16 PM  

Sgygus: The aromatic terpenoids begin to vaporize at 126.0 °C(258.8 °F), but the more bio-active, and do not vaporize until near their respective: THC 149.3 °C(300.7 °F), CBD 206.3 °C(403.3 °F), and CBN 212.7 °C(414.9 °F). - wikipedia

One minute google search, Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo.


Ah, thanks for that!  I knew the bad stuff burned around 415, but I had no idea THC vaporizes at such a low temp.  It seems like anything below 370 or so just does nothing.
 
2013-03-25 07:03:23 PM  
To kind of answer my own question, it looks like the flash point or the point where it may ignite or burn is 149.334 Degrees Celsius while the boiling point is a whopping 390 celsius. However that appears to be a predicted value that hasn't been tested in a lab.
http://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.15266.html
 
2013-03-25 07:35:01 PM  
There are some real amateur weed smokers in here trying to claim a weed grinder is useless. Once you guys are old enough to get something beyond that old steel pipe your brother gave you, you'll start to realize that there is an entire world beyond mom's basement.

That's assuming you move out west where the good shiat is grown. And, btw, west coast weed doesn't have any of those additives you guys are always talking about. We occasionally got some "laced" weed in the Midwest back in the day, but you had to pay extra for that shiat. If you got ripped off on weed, you likely just bought some oregano.

/Quit smoking my lawn
 
2013-03-25 07:45:09 PM  

lesliessexxy: Mimic_Octopus: ReverendJynxed: If you must use a lighter,

What do you light every bowl or joint with a hand carved match ? they call it "smoking" weed, how do you do that without fire ?


Hemp wick.  Light the wick, use the wick to light the bowl slash joint slash whatever.


sisal works really nicely too. in a real pinch cotton jute also works, and is relatively low aroma.

i use a length of 'char-tube' which is jute, charred on one end, in a tube, to light my pipe. one spark, a little blowing and bam makes a nice pipe-bowl sized ember to start the tobacco with. you cap the tube and push the jute against the cap from inside to smother it.

makes for a properly old-timey mountain man way to smoke a pipe, and rightly the only way to smoke a corncob.

one can easily adapt the technique to lighting a bowl.
 
2013-03-25 08:54:55 PM  

scottydoesntknow: FARK rebel soldier: So is this what we're talking about? And why is this a "pollen grinder"? And why do they think I'm buying this when I ask where the coffee grinders are?
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Because one slang word for the THC crystals (or "keef" as most peopel call it) is pollen. It coats the buds, kinda like pollen does. So when you're grinding it up, the screen filters out the plant and the "pollen" collecting it at the bottom to top off anything you want with it.

/Had a buddy in college that used an electric coffee grinder
//It wasted sooooo much. I could scrape the sides and have 4 bowls worth


Thats WHY i use a coffee grinder -- I mix with nice cigar or pipe tobacco so i like to get my bud to about the same busted down level as the tobacco and then toss them together in a good ratio -- and maybe mix in some dried wild mint leaves to make menthol bong hits...

But if times get rough and your stash doesn't get replenished you can go scrape that grinder down because after awhile the stuff naturally forms hash on the sides. Then you can knock the powder on some rolling tobacco and it works real good...
 
2013-03-25 09:04:11 PM  
You get yourself a job before sundown, or we're shipping you off to military school with that goddamn Finklestein shiat kid!
 
2013-03-25 09:05:15 PM  

mikefinch: scottydoesntknow: FARK rebel soldier: So is this what we're talking about? And why is this a "pollen grinder"? And why do they think I'm buying this when I ask where the coffee grinders are?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x281]

Because one slang word for the THC crystals (or "keef" as most peopel call it) is pollen. It coats the buds, kinda like pollen does. So when you're grinding it up, the screen filters out the plant and the "pollen" collecting it at the bottom to top off anything you want with it.

/Had a buddy in college that used an electric coffee grinder
//It wasted sooooo much. I could scrape the sides and have 4 bowls worth

Thats WHY i use a coffee grinder -- I mix with nice cigar or pipe tobacco so i like to get my bud to about the same busted down level as the tobacco and then toss them together in a good ratio -- and maybe mix in some dried wild mint leaves to make menthol bong hits...

But if times get rough and your stash doesn't get replenished you can go scrape that grinder down because after awhile the stuff naturally forms hash on the sides. Then you can knock the powder on some rolling tobacco and it works real good...


Why would you ruin perfectly good weed with tobacco?
 
2013-03-25 09:26:33 PM  

katerbug72: Why would you ruin perfectly good weed with tobacco?


Because i like it. It smooths out the bake. When i mix with tobacco the smoke seems smooth and the high is soft and i don't get paranoid. If i'm just smoking straight weed i get jittery and paranoid and I ruminate on bad stuff and get depressed. Makes me cough way worse too. If i mix with tobacco the weed or chase a joint with a cigar it just levels me out. Makes me feel like im stoned still but that anxiety level just drops right off for me...

I think it would be nice if i could just eat the stuff to get baked but smoking it is far more cost effective.

Actually i want to try making a big batch of really strong glycerine tincture and putting it in a little spray bottle. Like Binaca that gets you stoned...

Allot of people like their weed mixed with cigars, some people dont cause it knocks them out like a sledge hammer... To each their own. I like my way you like yours.
 
2013-03-25 09:26:45 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: neongoats: Girion47: So a question about the vaporizers, if someone were to have terrible reactions to any kind of smoke inhalation, including hookah/shisha, would the vaporizer aggravate their lungs?

If you want to risk it, try and know the source of your stuff. At the very least make sure it is good(preferably medical quality) stuff. People adulterate shiatty weed with all kinds of things, perfumes, hair spray, etc that can really cause you problems if you are sensitive to smoke or perfumes.

Have you ever actually had that happen to you? I'm honestly curious not calling you a liar or anything. I could see someone doing some dumb shiat whilst curing the weed but why would I spray it with hairspray or perfume? Don't most people who smoke know what pot smells/tastes like enough to pick out hairspray or perfume? If I was buying pot from someone and it smelled like hairspray I would probably not continue the transaction.


Way back in the 70's I got some weed from a black lady who must have dipped the stuff in perfume.She said it was so the cops would not be able to smell the pot, but it made for some crappy tasting mediocre swag!
 
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