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2013-03-25 11:48:20 AM  
The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.
 
2013-03-25 12:04:32 PM  
And that's not even the Florida team whose bad attendance is because you have to take the Bridge of Death to get to the park.
 
2013-03-25 12:50:28 PM  
No Major League Baseball should be played in Florida after March 31st.
 
2013-03-25 12:55:16 PM  
After the way this ownership has behaved they don't deserve fans.
 
2013-03-25 12:57:15 PM  
And they'll STILL win another World Series before Cleveland does.... *groan*
 
2013-03-25 12:57:59 PM  
"Two tickets? Let me forward you to Group Sales..."
 
2013-03-25 12:58:02 PM  
Groupon? More like Tarpon, AMIRITE?!?

/got nothing
//except slashies
 
2013-03-25 01:00:41 PM  
Step 1: Get expansion team for Florida
Step 2: Somehow win two World Series across two owners but immediately blow up the team after each
Step 3: Get poor attendance
Step 3a: Claim poor attendance is due to playing in a football stadium
Step 4: Get county to buy a shiny new stadium just for you
Step 5: Blow up team again
Step 6: ????
Step 7: Profit!
 
2013-03-25 01:02:56 PM  
I'm sure Marlins fans wouldn't be opposed to giving Kim Jong-Un one free shot at Jeffrey Loria.
 
2013-03-25 01:05:26 PM  

Fizpez: And they'll STILL win another World Series before Cleveland does.... *groan*


Or the Cubs.

/at least the Cubs are finally starting to realize that they're better off with their own stadium than the garbage dump they call Wrigley.
//they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches
///Cubs fan
 
2013-03-25 01:06:38 PM  
Wait, so you're telling me that if you put a terrible stadium in the middle of goddamn Little Havana, the other 2/3ds of the metro area won't be willing to give you money after you told them to go get farked?

I AM SHOCKED BY THIS TURN OF EVENTS
 
2013-03-25 01:07:38 PM  
They ARE in Florida.
 
2013-03-25 01:08:09 PM  
Jeffrey Loria is a piece of slime.

germ78: /at least the Cubs are finally starting to realize that they're better off with their own stadium than the garbage dump they call Wrigley.
//they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches
///Cubs fan


Elaborate? Who is Tom Tunney? Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?
 
2013-03-25 01:08:41 PM  
I went to a Marlins game back in 2009. Couldn't have been more than 4 or 5 thousand people in the entire stadium. It took me 10 minutes to find someone to try to pay for parking, and she just waved me through like I was an idiot.
 
2013-03-25 01:09:03 PM  

BunkoSquad: And that's not even the Florida team whose bad attendance is because you have to take the Bridge of Death to get to the park.


you know, I waited on the George Washington for two hours once (typical Friday) just to get to Yankee stadium.  How bad is the bridge of death?  Honestly
 
2013-03-25 01:09:20 PM  

Cewley: The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.


And the worst thing is you can't even move them now as they should have done. Now you have a dead team in a new-yet-still-dead stadium in a city that wants absolutely no part of them and you have to get money's worth out of the stadium before you can talk about kicking them out of Miami again.

The good thing is that Loria broke the game for all the other owners. His name is going to come up every single time an owner demands a stadium from here on in. Cities are going to demand Loria insurance before they lay down one red cent, like 'if the stadium gets built and the team is gutted, the owner becomes liable for X amount of stadium cost'.
 
2013-03-25 01:09:43 PM  
Normally I like the idea of a revenue sharing model in professional sports, but MLB is a prime example of how it can be exploited.

Rich teams trip all over themselves going over the luxury tax and still get mixed results, while this asshole can make a clean profit year in year out without nary a care in the world for his own team's W-L record.
 
2013-03-25 01:12:16 PM  

tnpir: Jeffrey Loria is a piece of slime.

germ78: /at least the Cubs are finally starting to realize that they're better off with their own stadium than the garbage dump they call Wrigley.
//they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches
///Cubs fan

Elaborate? Who is Tom Tunney? Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/tom-tunney-wrigley-scoreb_n _2 915503.html

I think one of the suburbs offered them a plot in their "downtown" to create a new stadium, but I doubt the cubs are considering it. They would actually have to put together a good team if they moved out of Wrigleyville and loss mass transit.
 
2013-03-25 01:13:04 PM  
Actually, I worded that a bit weird...the Yankees (for instance) luxury tax penalty is not going into the rev share bucket. I just meant to point out the stark contrast in approach to fielding a team.
 
2013-03-25 01:14:42 PM  
They really need to get Loria the fark out of there. Want entertainment there? Let Mark Cuban buy the team.
 
2013-03-25 01:15:15 PM  

tnpir: Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?


Well, buildings have to be torn down after 100 years. They're just not meant to last very long. That's why they've rebuilt the Sistine Chapel five times.
 
2013-03-25 01:16:09 PM  

germ78: //they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches


Serious question:  Why are they leeches?  They own the property, it looks into Wrigley.  How are they leeching?
 
2013-03-25 01:17:55 PM  

germ78: //they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches


And that attitude worked out so well for the Athletics, who as I understand it remain on pleasant terms with the city of Philadelphia to this day.
 
2013-03-25 01:18:10 PM  
When the WBC had games in that stadium, all I could think was "that's the most people that building will have in it all year." Looks like I might be right.
 
2013-03-25 01:18:12 PM  

Gosling: Cewley: The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.

And the worst thing is you can't even move them now as they should have done. Now you have a dead team in a new-yet-still-dead stadium in a city that wants absolutely no part of them and you have to get money's worth out of the stadium before you can talk about kicking them out of Miami again.

The good thing is that Loria broke the game for all the other owners. His name is going to come up every single time an owner demands a stadium from here on in. Cities are going to demand Loria insurance before they lay down one red cent, like 'if the stadium gets built and the team is gutted, the owner becomes liable for X amount of stadium cost'.


This; every sports franchise owner in America inow curses the name of Jeffrey Loria
 
2013-03-25 01:19:44 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: germ78: //they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches

Serious question:  Why are they leeches?  They own the property, it looks into Wrigley.  How are they leeching?


Well they weren't leeches when they were just families watching the Cubs game from their rooftops. When they started charging for it, the Cubs justifiably wanted their share. The rooftop venues commercialized and agreed to a sharing plan with the Cubs. Obviously obstructing the rooftop views which the Cubs and rooftop venues jointly issue tickets for is going to be an issue for those businesses, and a legitimate grievance at that.
 
2013-03-25 01:21:58 PM  

Killer Cars: Normally I like the idea of a revenue sharing model in professional sports, but MLB is a prime example of how it can be exploited.

Rich teams trip all over themselves going over the luxury tax and still get mixed results, while this asshole can make a clean profit year in year out without nary a care in the world for his own team's W-L record.


Gotta feeling that the next time the owners discuss the model it's gonna get tweaked for the likes of Loria.  That might involve a salary basement to prevent the likes of Loria from going with the minimum and pocketing the rest of the cost.
 
2013-03-25 01:26:20 PM  

Gosling: tnpir: Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?

Well, buildings have to be torn down after 100 years. They're just not meant to last very long. That's why they've rebuilt the Sistine Chapel five times.


Yeah, but the Vatican hasn't even made the playoffs in almost 30 years. They haven't stolen a base in over 10, what w/ the tripping over the robes and all.
 
2013-03-25 01:26:45 PM  

Cewley: The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.


Done in one.

Miami isn't Wisconsin. There are other options. Fans aren't going to go to a sporting event to watch amateur hour.
 
2013-03-25 01:29:44 PM  

Rwa2play: Gotta feeling that the next time the owners discuss the model it's gonna get tweaked for the likes of Loria. That might involve a salary basement to prevent the likes of Loria from going with the minimum and pocketing the rest of the cost.


I assume the only reason why I haven't heard much complaining from other owners about the likes of Loria is just because in general, owners of all stripes WANT other owners to be profitable and have as much leverage as possible for eventual labor showdowns. But even stuff like this has to chafe their nads.
 
2013-03-25 01:32:19 PM  
Florida tag on break?
 
2013-03-25 01:36:26 PM  
i'm really rooting for them to play a game this season with less than 1,000 fans in attendance.  that would be awesome to see
 
2013-03-25 01:36:45 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: Cewley: The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.

Done in one.

Miami isn't Wisconsin. There are other options. Fans aren't going to go to a sporting event to watch amateur hour.


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Miami isn't any other major city in America, either.  The fans don't support any of their pro teams - at least until the playoffs, and even then it's sketchy.  The Heat have won 23 straight games and they still can't get that stadium full before the end of the first quarter.

/Can't entirely blame them, though.  I'd rather be at the beach too.
 
2013-03-25 01:37:11 PM  

redmid17: tnpir: Jeffrey Loria is a piece of slime.

germ78: /at least the Cubs are finally starting to realize that they're better off with their own stadium than the garbage dump they call Wrigley.
//they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches
///Cubs fan

Elaborate? Who is Tom Tunney? Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/tom-tunney-wrigley-scoreb_n _2 915503.html

I think one of the suburbs offered them a plot in their "downtown" to create a new stadium, but I doubt the cubs are considering it. They would actually have to put together a good team if they moved out of Wrigleyville and loss mass transit.


It's Rosemont, and the same mass-transit system (the L) goes there, albeit a different transit line (red vs. blue). They've offered 25 acres of FREE land. A change of scenery wouldn't be the worst thing to ever happen to the Cubs; that would be Alfonso Soriano's contract.
 
2013-03-25 01:38:09 PM  

animesucks: i'm really rooting for them to play a game this season with less than 1,000 fans in attendance.  that would be awesome to see


they already had one where only 230 or so people showed up.  They might do "better" than that.
 
2013-03-25 01:38:49 PM  

SkylineRecords: redmid17: tnpir: Jeffrey Loria is a piece of slime.

germ78: /at least the Cubs are finally starting to realize that they're better off with their own stadium than the garbage dump they call Wrigley.
//they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches
///Cubs fan

Elaborate? Who is Tom Tunney? Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/tom-tunney-wrigley-scoreb_n _2 915503.html

I think one of the suburbs offered them a plot in their "downtown" to create a new stadium, but I doubt the cubs are considering it. They would actually have to put together a good team if they moved out of Wrigleyville and loss mass transit.

It's Rosemont, and the same mass-transit system (the L) goes there, albeit a different transit line (red vs. blue). They've offered 25 acres of FREE land. A change of scenery wouldn't be the worst thing to ever happen to the Cubs; that would be Alfonso Soriano's contract.


Jesus all the way out by the airport? Unless the Rosemont stop is going to be a block away from the new stadium, I think the point still stands.

/yes Sorian's contract needs to go
 
2013-03-25 01:40:58 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: germ78: //they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches

Serious question:  Why are they leeches?  They own the property, it looks into Wrigley.  How are they leeching?


Certainly they do own the properties, but when you're only giving the Cubs < 20% of your rake it comes off as being cheap. Especially if the Cubs move, all that high priced real estate becomes worthless. The rooftop owners should be the ones trying desperately to keep the Cubs in Wrigley.

redmid17: I think one of the suburbs offered them a plot in their "downtown" to create a new stadium, but I doubt the cubs are considering it. They would actually have to put together a good team if they moved out of Wrigleyville and loss mass transit.


The town they'd move to is Rosemont, basically right between O'Hare and the northwest side of Chicago. It would still keep access to the CTA (on the Blue line instead of the Red line), gain access to the Metra commuter rail system, and best of all, have easy access to the interstates (294 and 90). It would be foolish for ownership to not consider this plan since it at least gives them leverage with the city.

/and if you haven't noticed, they're trying to put together a good team but are hampered by a lack of revenue
//because the hayseeds and tourists all love to come to the museum they call Wrigley no matter how bad the exhibits suck
 
2013-03-25 01:42:11 PM  

animesucks: i'm really rooting for them to play a game this season with less than 1,000 fans in attendance.  that would be awesome to see


Looks like this is your lucky end of April.
 
2013-03-25 01:43:29 PM  

thecpt: BunkoSquad: And that's not even the Florida team whose bad attendance is because you have to take the Bridge of Death to get to the park.

you know, I waited on the George Washington for two hours once (typical Friday) just to get to Yankee stadium.  How bad is the bridge of death?  Honestly


It may take 30 or 40 hellish minutes in busy but brisk traffic to reach the stadium, which is tragically located between two convenient Interstate spikes.
 
2013-03-25 01:45:28 PM  

thecpt: animesucks: i'm really rooting for them to play a game this season with less than 1,000 fans in attendance.  that would be awesome to see

they already had one where only 230 or so people showed up.  They might do "better" than that.


Hell, you'd figure that even the Miami area would have more than 230 seventy something year old men who love to go to baseball games and fill out those statistical score card thingamajigs.
 
2013-03-25 01:47:22 PM  
Ways to increase attendence for the Marlins
1) Give out free tickets to the homeless (like those sex offenders living under that bridge)
2) Contests - All people attending get a chance to win US Citizenship or win head of the voting line in the next election
3) Traffic Court- Instead of paying a fine, make them attend a Marlins Game
4) Promotions- Free Crack Pipe night
5) Show movies on the large scoreboard
6) Free Burmese Pythons for all fans
 
2013-03-25 01:49:22 PM  

animesucks: i'm really rooting for them to play a game this season with less than 1,000 fans in attendance.  that would be awesome to see


They came pretty close in the old stadium.

cdn.bleacherreport.net
 
2013-03-25 01:50:15 PM  

redmid17: SkylineRecords: redmid17: tnpir: Jeffrey Loria is a piece of slime.

germ78: /at least the Cubs are finally starting to realize that they're better off with their own stadium than the garbage dump they call Wrigley.
//they're getting fed up with the corrupt alderman Tom Tunney's kowtowing to the rooftop leeches
///Cubs fan

Elaborate? Who is Tom Tunney? Are the Cubs seriously talking about leaving Wrigley?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/tom-tunney-wrigley-scoreb_n _2 915503.html

I think one of the suburbs offered them a plot in their "downtown" to create a new stadium, but I doubt the cubs are considering it. They would actually have to put together a good team if they moved out of Wrigleyville and loss mass transit.

It's Rosemont, and the same mass-transit system (the L) goes there, albeit a different transit line (red vs. blue). They've offered 25 acres of FREE land. A change of scenery wouldn't be the worst thing to ever happen to the Cubs; that would be Alfonso Soriano's contract.

Jesus all the way out by the airport? Unless the Rosemont stop is going to be a block away from the new stadium, I think the point still stands.

/yes Sorian's contract needs to go


It's not like Wrigleyville is such a heralded ground of perfection. It's a terrible place to be, yet everyone wants to go. I'm sure that if the move WAS seriously considered by anyone, they would adjust the track line to drop you off at the door.
 
2013-03-25 01:52:00 PM  

Bermuda59: Ways to increase attendence for the Marlins
1) Give out free tickets to the homeless (like those sex offenders living under that bridge)
2) Contests - All people attending get a chance to win US Citizenship or win head of the voting line in the next election
3) Traffic Court- Instead of paying a fine, make them attend a Marlins Game
4) Promotions- Free Crack Pipe night
5) Show movies on the large scoreboard
6) Free Burmese Pythons for all fans


They need a "Bark in the Park" night so all the drug dealers can bring their pit bulls.  Oh, and a musical performance by Pitbull.
 
2013-03-25 01:52:50 PM  

dallylamma: They came pretty close in the old stadium.


9/12/2007, day game on Rosh Hashanah, against the Nationals. Press said they counted 400 people at first pitch.

echenblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-25 01:55:35 PM  

Gosling: Cewley: The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.

And the worst thing is you can't even move them now as they should have done. Now you have a dead team in a new-yet-still-dead stadium in a city that wants absolutely no part of them and you have to get money's worth out of the stadium before you can talk about kicking them out of Miami again.

The good thing is that Loria broke the game for all the other owners. His name is going to come up every single time an owner demands a stadium from here on in. Cities are going to demand Loria insurance before they lay down one red cent, like 'if the stadium gets built and the team is gutted, the owner becomes liable for X amount of stadium cost'.


It isn't just baseball owners. The dolphins want to do a major renovation on their stadium and loria's name is shiatting all over that. I blame the county commissioners for voting approval of the stadium on what amounted to a handshake deal as much as I blame loria for fleecing them.
 
2013-03-25 01:55:51 PM  
Pretty much every team that isn't at the top of their league has some sort of groupon deal.

Nothing to see here, move along.
 
2013-03-25 01:58:56 PM  

InfrasonicTom: Pretty much every team that isn't at the top of their league has some sort of groupon deal.

Nothing to see here, move along.


No, there's something to see, people just don't want to go to see it. I think that's the issue here.
 
2013-03-25 02:00:51 PM  

tacchimonster: KiwDaWabbit: Cewley: The Marlins have done everything in their power to chase away customers.

Done in one.

Miami isn't Wisconsin. There are other options. Fans aren't going to go to a sporting event to watch amateur hour.

---

Miami isn't any other major city in America, either.  The fans don't support any of their pro teams - at least until the playoffs, and even then it's sketchy.  The Heat have won 23 straight games and they still can't get that stadium full before the end of the first quarter.

/Can't entirely blame them, though.  I'd rather be at the beach too.


College teams as well. I've been to canes games with their rivals (FSU, UF) and the stadium was half empty. I don't think peoole were going to um basketball games this year either despite the fact that they turned out to be a great team.

Burying the stadium in little havana with limited parking doesn't help either.
 
2013-03-25 02:01:13 PM  

BunkoSquad: dallylamma: They came pretty close in the old stadium.

9/12/2007, day game on Rosh Hashanah, against the Nationals. Press said they counted 400 people at first pitch.

[echenblog.files.wordpress.com image 516x420]


Wow, THAT is low. I knew the Marlins weren't always rockin' in attendance, but I've been to weddings with more people attending.
 
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