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(Time)   Experts warn that North Korea is training elite teams of "cyberwarriors", who have access to sophisticated technology including modems capable of connecting at up to 2400 baud and processors that can reach speeds as high as 24mhz   (world.time.com) divider line 73
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2013-03-25 10:38:37 AM  
2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams
 
2013-03-25 10:38:41 AM  
I was expecting a Starcraft reference.  But since we are talking about Best Korea, I guess they don't play that up there?
 
2013-03-25 10:41:27 AM  

PsyLord: I was expecting a Starcraft reference.  But since we are talking about Best Korea, I guess they don't play that up there?


s3.amazonaws.com

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-03-25 10:42:59 AM  
Do they have access to more than 640K of RAM on their computers?
 
2013-03-25 10:44:10 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Do they have access to more than 640K of RAM on their computers?


Nobody will ever need more than 640K!
 
2013-03-25 10:45:50 AM  
The hard part is going to be when the last of the 5.25" floppy drives fails and they can no longer even boot the computer

/ No bootable device. Insert disk and press any key
 
2013-03-25 10:46:02 AM  
I have no doubt they are buying Chinese computers like crazy and with the dedication only a crazy dictatorship can have, they will probably have some form of success, sooner rather than later.
 
2013-03-25 10:46:07 AM  
Better watch out, they might have boost buttons on their 386's
 
2013-03-25 10:46:58 AM  
Well, you have to admit, it's pretty clever strategy on North Korea's part.  If anything ever DEFINED "asymetrical warfare" it would be North Korea attacking another country's IT infrastructure.

The real question is though, have they somehow managed to gain access to critical "Turbo" button technology?
 
2013-03-25 10:47:09 AM  
And they're probably not Korean, speak Chinese or Russian, and have ties to organized crime in second and first world countries.

Why spend millions of dollars on cyberwarfare when some kid in his basement has the knowledge and access to a Botnet already.

/while I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I do often wonder how many computer viruses in the wild are actually paid for by national actors.
 
2013-03-25 10:48:34 AM  

skozlaw: The hard part is going to be when the last of the 5.25" floppy drives fails and they can no longer even boot the computer

/ No bootable device. Insert disk and press any key


(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
 
2013-03-25 10:49:34 AM  

sandbar67: (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?


FARK YOU COMPUTER THEY ALL DO THE SAME GODDAMN THING!
 
2013-03-25 10:53:38 AM  

Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams


2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.
 
2013-03-25 10:54:04 AM  

skozlaw: sandbar67: (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?

FARK YOU COMPUTER THEY ALL DO THE SAME GODDAMN THING!


SYNTAX ERROR
READY
 
2013-03-25 10:55:16 AM  

dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.


I remember marvelling at the speed increase from going from 110 baud to 300 baud.
 
2013-03-25 10:55:55 AM  

dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.


Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces
 
2013-03-25 10:58:37 AM  

dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.


my first was a 300 baud modem hooked onto  C-64, which I used  to call a local BBS hosting Fidonet.   A few years later when a picked up a 286 "laptop" with a 20 meg HD and a 2400 baud modem at a NASA surplus sale I thought I was FLYING the first time i dialed into the local univeristy's servers to "wurf the web" with my LYNX client
 
2013-03-25 10:59:06 AM  

Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams


LORD on a dial up BBS?

The good old days weren't always all that good.

(8,n,1)
 
2013-03-25 11:04:04 AM  
But have they gained the critical Police Quest III technology?
 
2013-03-25 11:08:21 AM  

bhcompy: Better watch out, they might have boost buttons on their 386's


Not only did my 386 have a turbo button, it also had an LED display that changed from 25 to 33 when you pressed it.  It was was always on by default, but occasionally you'd have to turn it off to play certain DOS games at a 'normal' speed.
 
2013-03-25 11:10:24 AM  

hardinparamedic: And they're probably not Korean, speak Chinese or Russian, and have ties to organized crime in second and first world countries.


Came here to say this.

Then again, relying on outside help is against their Juche ("self-reliance") philosophy. (I think they justify their reliance on food aid by calling it "tribute").
 
2013-03-25 11:12:14 AM  
Im assuming they got bulk orders of PC Juniors?????

gothamschools.org


//first computer I ever used when I was 5.
///The better make sure they don't lose the disk with the OS on it.
 
2013-03-25 11:16:01 AM  
North Korean DOS Best DOS!
 
2013-03-25 11:18:27 AM  

Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.

Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces


and play frisbee with your brain?
 
2013-03-25 11:19:45 AM  
celebsview.info
 
2013-03-25 11:23:39 AM  

hardinparamedic: And they're probably not Korean, speak Chinese or Russian, and have ties to organized crime in second and first world countries.

Why spend millions of dollars on cyberwarfare when some kid in his basement has the knowledge and access to a Botnet already.

/while I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I do often wonder how many computer viruses in the wild are actually paid for by national actors.


Stuxnet says hi.
 
2013-03-25 11:30:07 AM  

2wolves: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

LORD on a dial up BBS?

The good old days weren't always all that good.

(8,n,1)


I was always partial to OO][ myself. For its time, it was really a pretty incredible game.
 
2013-03-25 11:32:24 AM  

Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.

Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces


Actually, I was being flat-out truthful.  My first modem was a 300 baud internal modem for a Tandy 1000EX semi-IBM compatible computer.
 
2013-03-25 11:49:07 AM  

dittybopper: Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.

Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces

Actually, I was being flat-out truthful.  My first modem was a 300 baud internal modem for a Tandy 1000EX semi-IBM compatible computer.


You guys have better memory than me.  I know my first modem was a big blue box that hooked up to my Atari 400 through the controller connection, but I can't remember the speed, or what BBS's I ever hooked up to.
 
2013-03-25 11:51:12 AM  
So a few bored Homeland Security techs with a few TI-82s ought to be enough to hold them off?
 
2013-03-25 11:59:05 AM  
FTFH:  ...who have access to sophisticated technology including modems capable of connecting at up to 2400 baud and processors that can reach speeds as high as 24mhz

www.bestcomputersciencedegrees.com 

"Yo...this is 'insanely great,'its got a 28.8 kbps modem!"
 
2013-03-25 12:01:12 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: dittybopper: Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.

Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces

Actually, I was being flat-out truthful.  My first modem was a 300 baud internal modem for a Tandy 1000EX semi-IBM compatible computer.

You guys have better memory than me.  I know my first modem was a big blue box that hooked up to my Atari 400 through the controller connection, but I can't remember the speed, or what BBS's I ever hooked up to.


I remember one BBS I used to frequent that had four lines.  Then two of them got dropped without warning and when I dialed up one day I gave some poor schmuck on the other end an earful of modem screaming.  I think it was a law firm.
 
2013-03-25 12:01:49 PM  

Space Station Wagon: Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.

Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces

and play frisbee with your brain?


Did he have to work butt naked for just half a cent, I wonder.
 
2013-03-25 12:04:15 PM  

Magorn: Well, you have to admit, it's pretty clever strategy on North Korea's part.  If anything ever DEFINED "asymetrical warfare" it would be North Korea attacking another country's IT infrastructure.

The real question is though, have they somehow managed to gain access to critical "Turbo" button technology?


Thanks be to everyone that remembers the turbo button
 
2013-03-25 12:07:23 PM  

Kazoni: So a few bored Homeland Security techs with a few TI-82s ought to be enough to hold them off?


I have a pair of functional VIC-20s that will probably do the job quite nicely

/happy to contribute to the defense of freedom
 
2013-03-25 12:11:22 PM  
It's juuuuuust enough to break into WOPR.


/How about a nice game of chess?
 
2013-03-25 12:13:31 PM  
Stop clicking on suspicious links.

Oh BTW, have you seen this leaked sex tape of Emma Watson?
 
2013-03-25 12:25:12 PM  

dittybopper: Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: 2400 bps?  Those poor bastards.

/recalls waiting for the Legend Of The Red Dragon opening screen to load one line at a time in glorious monochrome
//modem noises still haunt my dreams

2400 baud?  Luxury.  My first modem was 300 baud.

Lemme guess, it didn't work if you stopped pedalling, right?

/I can't win this game of one-downsmanship
//had to work 23 hour shift at mill, come home and Dad would chop us into pieces

Actually, I was being flat-out truthful.  My first modem was a 300 baud internal modem for a Tandy 1000EX semi-IBM compatible computer.


I figured you were, I was just admitting defeat.

Mine was a 2400 on an Amstrad PC1512.  The thing was obsolete when we bought it, and it wasn't upgraded for about 7 years.  I didn't have the Internet at home until I was 17.  Prior to that it was Fidonet.

/Mum didn't have TV until she was 13
 
2013-03-25 12:25:28 PM  
but the code you write, fair enough goes upstream very slowly, but it runs on the imperial dogs hardware which means it doesn`t really matter what hardware you have if you run your code on THEIR hardware...

Get responses from your botnet as ASCII streaming video remote desktop.
 
2013-03-25 12:27:52 PM  
I imagine one of the downsides for North Korea would be the cyberwarriors learning what a terrible place they live in.
 
2013-03-25 12:29:00 PM  
I've got that ST vs SW meme picture in my head, the one that goes
"Captain, they're firing lasers at us.  Lasers!  haha!"
"How quaint, beam a photon torpedo onto their bridge."
 
2013-03-25 12:30:30 PM  

2wolves: LORD on a dial up BBS?

The good old days weren't always all that good.

(8,n,1)


Or old. I use HyperTerminal all the time.

/ and don't get me started on how annoying it is that the telnet client is no longer installed by default on Windows
 
2013-03-25 12:37:45 PM  

Bondith: I didn't have the Internet at home until I was 17.  Prior to that it was Fidonet.


Fight-o-net didn't even exist when I turned 17.
 
2013-03-25 12:46:37 PM  

dittybopper: Bondith: I didn't have the Internet at home until I was 17.  Prior to that it was Fidonet.

Fight-o-net didn't even exist when I turned 17.


Yup, definitely not winning this.
 
2013-03-25 12:48:35 PM  

Magorn: he real question is though, have they somehow managed to gain access to critical "Turbo" button technology?


I always wondered why it was the Turbo and not the Slow button....

My thinking is that Turbo was the normal state - of course I want to go as fast as possible as much as possible. There's no consequence, other than perhaps a higher electric bill. I don't even remember a 286 or 386 having a heat sink - in fact I think the first heat sink I worked with was on a 486 of some sort.

"Normal" was only ever used with "old" software that would freak out when it ran 100x faster than it expected to.
 
2013-03-25 12:53:44 PM  

Bondith: dittybopper: Bondith: I didn't have the Internet at home until I was 17.  Prior to that it was Fidonet.

Fight-o-net didn't even exist when I turned 17.

Yup, definitely not winning this.


Don't make me whip out my slip-stick:

wm.rezotekno.com
 
2013-03-25 12:53:56 PM  
Herro Worrd.
 
2013-03-25 12:54:45 PM  
My 8088 had a turbo button.

TradeWars anyone?
 
2013-03-25 12:58:16 PM  
www.albinoblacksheep.com

What a North Korean cyberwarrior might look like.
 
2013-03-25 01:13:12 PM  
I bet a maniacal dictator can start up a hackers paradise fast enough.
Between NK and China they have billions of hungry people.

A hotel with food, warm running water, and fiber would allow them to quickly pull out people with an aptitude towards programming. Don't forget that their genetically similar counterparts, the South K's are known for the tenacious gaming. Apply that same gaming psychopathy towards hacking and I bet they can get up to speed a lot faster than folks are giving them credit for.
 
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