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(CNN)   This might shock you, but the way an airliner is painted can tell you something about the brand identity of the company that owns it   (cnn.com) divider line 46
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zez
2013-03-25 11:28:54 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-03-25 11:49:46 AM
www.designboom.com
 
2013-03-25 12:03:26 PM
I can haz airline livery thread?
 
2013-03-25 12:12:57 PM
Does Alaska still have Salmon Thirty Salmon?

www.hobnobblog.com
 
2013-03-25 12:26:08 PM

zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]


Done in one
 
2013-03-25 12:39:23 PM
legacy-cdn.smosh.com
Gotta catch'em all.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-25 01:33:45 PM
I thought this article would be about the benefits about different types of Aircraft paint over others and not about livery. I got excited, but am now disappointed.
Us Airline Financial Analysts get excited over the stupidest things. I guess I'll just sit back and enjoy the livery pics.
 
2013-03-25 01:48:50 PM
"It brings American into the Apple age with its nice reflective coating," says Sudeep Ghai, a strategist with Athena Aviation, and airline management consulting firm"

It was reflective before you nitwit.  Now it's dull gray.

"dozens of BMI's Boeing 777 planes needed to be repainted"

BMI has never had a 777 in it's fleet, much less dozens of them.

Shiatty article.
 
2013-03-25 01:55:33 PM

zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]


That docu/movie was goddamn awesome.
 
2013-03-25 02:13:56 PM

Click Click D'oh: "It brings American into the Apple age with its nice reflective coating," says Sudeep Ghai, a strategist with Athena Aviation, and airline management consulting firm"

It was reflective before you nitwit.  Now it's dull gray.

"dozens of BMI's Boeing 777 planes needed to be repainted"

BMI has never had a 777 in it's fleet, much less dozens of them.

Shiatty article.


Agreed.  All of Lufhansa (including BMI, etc) has exactly 4 triple-sevens, though they have ordered 5 more, but of the cargo variety (777F).

Also, I thought AA bragged that their "bare" aluminum look saved precious pounds (though I guess there's some clear coat on the metal) in the weight of the paint.
 
2013-03-25 02:38:56 PM
Is it true that red planes fly faster?
 
2013-03-25 02:42:45 PM
"They did a very sensible thing, actually. They retained the United name -- the more recognized name worldwide -- with the Continental logo," says Willie Walsh, the CEO of International Airlines Group, the parent company of British Airways. "And I think that was meant to bring the Continental people into the business. There's a sense of inclusiveness, which I think was a smart move."

So that's how executives see it. But I know someone who worked for McDonnell Douglas when they 'merged' with Boeing (they did something similar) and the guy's recollection is that "Any time the name disappears completely, it is a takeover, not a merger". Ask people who were the old company if they actually feel included.
 
2013-03-25 02:43:04 PM
Really?  I'm the first?

images3.jetphotos.net
 
2013-03-25 02:45:00 PM

Click Click D'oh: "It brings American into the Apple age with its nice reflective coating," says Sudeep Ghai, a strategist with Athena Aviation, and airline management consulting firm"

It was reflective before you nitwit.  Now it's dull gray.

"dozens of BMI's Boeing 777 planes needed to be repainted"

BMI has never had a 777 in it's fleet, much less dozens of them.

Shiatty article.


Yes, let's take a shiny silver plane, and paint it shiny silver.  Those thousands of pounds of paint will really help our image.  What's fuel economy?
 
2013-03-25 03:13:17 PM

SultanofSchwing: zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]

That docu/movie was goddamn awesome.


Serious question: what's the title?

/Documentary geek
 
2013-03-25 03:18:49 PM

downstairs: SultanofSchwing: zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]

That docu/movie was goddamn awesome.

Serious question: what's the title?

/Documentary geek


Iron Maiden: Flight 666
 
2013-03-25 03:21:05 PM

SultanofSchwing: downstairs: SultanofSchwing: zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]

That docu/movie was goddamn awesome.

Serious question: what's the title?

/Documentary geek

Iron Maiden: Flight 666


Meant to link the trailer
 
2013-03-25 03:31:41 PM
The new American livery is both heinous and unnecessary.
 
2013-03-25 04:05:01 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Is it true that red planes fly faster?


Perhaps. But if they turn blue, you know they're really hauling it.

Blue shift. Serious Business.
 
2013-03-25 04:08:19 PM
That most people who fly are idiots?

www.airlinetrends.com
 
2013-03-25 04:12:19 PM

Lunchlady: The new American livery is both heinous and unnecessary.


While I agree the new livery is meh, it actually was, or would have eventually been, necessary due to composite aircraft such as the 787 & the A350.
 
2013-03-25 04:26:01 PM
andychrist420:
Yes, let's take a shiny silver plane, and paint it shiny silver.  Those thousands of pounds of paint will really help our image.  What's fuel economy?

You are exactly right, but even "righter" if you look at the financial cost involved in painting aircraft.

The cost both to actually paint an airplane and then fly the darn thing with so much weight (yes, paint weighs an incredible amount) - it's like these airlines aren't really in such a terrible financial situation justifying all kinds of ridiculous  surcharges.  And then the additional maintenance on the aircraft to maintain this appearance?  This is an absurd idea that only "brand consultants" love.
 
2013-03-25 04:26:46 PM

Gaumond: Lunchlady: The new American livery is both heinous and unnecessary.

While I agree the new livery is meh, it actually was, or would have eventually been, necessary due to composite aircraft such as the 787 & the A350.


Well I learned something today. OK then.
 
zez
2013-03-25 05:00:47 PM

Bijin: andychrist420:
Yes, let's take a shiny silver plane, and paint it shiny silver.  Those thousands of pounds of paint will really help our image.  What's fuel economy?

You are exactly right, but even "righter" if you look at the financial cost involved in painting aircraft.

The cost both to actually paint an airplane and then fly the darn thing with so much weight (yes, paint weighs an incredible amount) - it's like these airlines aren't really in such a terrible financial situation justifying all kinds of ridiculous  surcharges.  And then the additional maintenance on the aircraft to maintain this appearance?  This is an absurd idea that only "brand consultants" love.


I thought I read the reason that AA didn't paint their planes was to save the weight. So now they are going to paint them, but the same color as if it wasn't painted? What's the point?
 
2013-03-25 05:02:03 PM

downstairs: SultanofSchwing: zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]

That docu/movie was goddamn awesome.

Serious question: what's the title?

/Documentary geek


Wow, it pays to be helpful!  Thanks Chief!

My work and productivity are less than thrilled though, but who cares!
 
2013-03-25 05:04:11 PM
simviation.com
 
2013-03-25 05:25:30 PM

northgrave: [simviation.com image 800x600]


Looks like a goddamn Banana.  I assume intentionally.
 
2013-03-25 06:38:11 PM

SultanofSchwing: northgrave: [simviation.com image 800x600]

Looks like a goddamn Banana.  I assume intentionally.


It was. They gave out little banana shaped foam planes back in the late 70s. I wonder if I still have mine.
 
2013-03-25 07:23:00 PM

zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]


Ooh, I got a shot of that one during a stopover - they had to cancel some shows in Japan due to the earthquake and tsunami in 2011, and their next gigs were in Mexico, so they stopped in Honolulu for a bit.  Fortunately, some folks who work at the airport in Honolulu like Maiden even more than I do, so I got about as close as I could without causing a TSA incident.  Heard that the folks who clean planes were a lot more excited than usual about cleaning  that one.

www2.hawaii.edu
 
2013-03-25 07:25:55 PM

dbirchall: zez: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x380]

Ooh, I got a shot of that one during a stopover - they had to cancel some shows in Japan due to the earthquake and tsunami in 2011, and their next gigs were in Mexico, so they stopped in Honolulu for a bit.  Fortunately, some folks who work at the airport in Honolulu like Maiden even more than I do, so I got about as close as I could without causing a TSA incident.  Heard that the folks who clean planes were a lot more excited than usual about cleaning  that one.

[www2.hawaii.edu image 600x400]

ha!  love it.  Saw both the plane arriving and that show when they came to town in 2011.  Final Frontier tour was pretty awesome, good new stuff, great old stuff.
 
2013-03-25 07:34:55 PM
I haven't flown much, but when I was five my parents took me to Florida on this:

farm3.staticflickr.com

Northeast Yellowbird - the food and the plane were the same color!
 
2013-03-25 08:01:07 PM
Cable Not News
 
2013-03-25 10:50:43 PM

alienated: SultanofSchwing: northgrave: [simviation.com image 800x600]

Looks like a goddamn Banana.  I assume intentionally.

It was. They gave out little banana shaped foam planes back in the late 70s. I wonder if I still have mine.


IIRC, Hughes Airwest's slogan was "Top Banana in the West."
 
2013-03-25 11:18:01 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Is it true that red planes fly fry faster?



i20.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-26 12:52:43 AM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-26 12:58:40 AM

zez: Bijin: andychrist420:
Yes, let's take a shiny silver plane, and paint it shiny silver.  Those thousands of pounds of paint will really help our image.  What's fuel economy?

You are exactly right, but even "righter" if you look at the financial cost involved in painting aircraft.

The cost both to actually paint an airplane and then fly the darn thing with so much weight (yes, paint weighs an incredible amount) - it's like these airlines aren't really in such a terrible financial situation justifying all kinds of ridiculous  surcharges.  And then the additional maintenance on the aircraft to maintain this appearance?  This is an absurd idea that only "brand consultants" love.

I thought I read the reason that AA didn't paint their planes was to save the weight. So now they are going to paint them, but the same color as if it wasn't painted? What's the point?


Why don't you read the post that answered your question 45 minutes before you even asked it?
 
2013-03-26 02:35:23 AM

Simplex_X-L: Hughes Airwest's slogan was "Top Banana in the West."


Hmm, if wiki is to be trusted, you are correct. I still remember laughing each time I saw one land ( or got onto one ) in Boise . Yeah, i was easily amused at flying on a banana
 
2013-03-26 08:31:47 AM
Saw this plane once at a small airport in Germany (PAD).

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-26 09:45:25 AM

TheStoss: Saw this plane once at a small airport in Germany (PAD).


I see that one all the time in Frankfurt..... what the fark were you doing in Paderborn?   No one goes there - at least no one worth mentioning.

Cool!  Livery thread!

images.businessweek.com
 
2013-03-26 10:04:46 AM

Hofheim: TheStoss: Saw this plane once at a small airport in Germany (PAD).

I see that one all the time in Frankfurt..... what the fark were you doing in Paderborn?   No one goes there - at least no one worth mentioning.

Cool!  Livery thread!

[images.businessweek.com image 550x386]


Hey Hof Long time no type :)
 
2013-03-26 10:16:20 AM

Hofheim: what the fark were you doing in Paderborn?


I feel like I used to  practically lived there ;)  I had a large customer there (If you know the town, you probably know who) For 4 years I commuted a minimum of 1 week every month LHR->PAD (A lot of the time LHR->DUS and then by train).
 
2013-03-26 10:34:15 AM

shadowtec: Hey Hof Long time no type :)


Ditto..  Been busy here.

 

TheStoss: Hofheim: what the fark were you doing in Paderborn?

I feel like I used to  practically lived there ;)  I had a large customer there (If you know the town, you probably know who) For 4 years I commuted a minimum of 1 week every month LHR->PAD (A lot of the time LHR->DUS and then by train).


Been doing a lot of FRA->LHR.   Next one coming up 9/10 April
 
2013-03-26 10:40:11 AM

Hofheim: Been doing a lot of FRA->LHR.   Next one coming up 9/10 April


Drat, I'll be going MAD->FRA->LAX a few days too early to say hi.
 
2013-03-26 12:12:00 PM

Hofheim:  Next one coming up 9/10 April


Sadly, I am moving out of LHR region in April. Back to YYZ where I came from ;)
 
2013-03-26 05:55:28 PM

Hofheim: [images.businessweek.com image 550x386]


Ahh, Hooters Air. I flew it when I was a kid to Myrtle Beach from ATL, something like $49.

They had both stewardesses AND Hooters waitresses and fed us sausage biscuits. I can't imagine why a discount airline went out of business with that sort of overhead...
 
2013-03-26 09:24:54 PM

TheStoss: Saw this plane once at a small airport in Germany (PAD).

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 850x566]


Adults and kids love them so
 
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