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(Washington Times)   Karl Rove predicts that the next GOP president will not be a member of today's GOP   (washingtontimes.com ) divider line
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2013-03-25 10:34:43 AM  
"There are states that have decided in the opposite direction, and I don't think the federal government should tell anybody or any state government how they should decide this."

www.biography.com

I've heard this argument before.
 
2013-03-25 10:42:16 AM  
What can we expect from the GOP of thomorrow?
 
2013-03-25 10:42:50 AM  
Oh, shut up Karl, you worthless fat f*ck.
 
2013-03-25 10:43:12 AM  
I take it Thoday only occurs in Smarch?
 
2013-03-25 10:45:44 AM  
Given the accuracy of his predictions last year, can we assume then that it means no GOP presidential candidate will EVER support gay marriage?
 
2013-03-25 10:46:21 AM  

skozlaw: I take it Thoday only occurs in Smarch?


Lousy Smarch winters!
 
2013-03-25 10:46:33 AM  

humanshrapnel: What can we expect from the GOP of thomorrow?


Don't worry. We will still need a home for the bigots, the xenophobes, the fundies, the corporate lobbyists, the gun fetishists ...

... you get the idea. The GOP will still be their home for a long time to come.
 
2013-03-25 10:47:03 AM  
I am confused.
What was the last correct prediction from Ham Rove?
 
2013-03-25 10:48:06 AM  
Well, no shiat. The current incarnation of the GOP repulses the vast majority of Americans.
 
2013-03-25 10:48:38 AM  
What the fhuck?
 
2013-03-25 10:48:52 AM  

Hmmm. Someone who by rights should be a Republican, but for stances on one or more issues that buck party orthodoxy? Where can we find such a man?


www.biography.com
I am a better Republican than Karl Rove.



// I know that's not exactly TFH
 
2013-03-25 10:48:57 AM  
Yall are totally missing the greater point in this article.

This is, yet again, another move by the GOP to try and nudge back toward the center by the establishment GOP.

And it will inevitably be met by rage, blind frothing rage, rage from the Tea Derpers who will insist that Karl Rove is secretly gay and is trying to sabotage the GOP from within.

If I were a sneaky fellow, I'd be heading over to freeperland with a derper alt to upload that link, complete with ALL CAPS FURY AND RAEG for them to wallow in.
 
2013-03-25 10:49:27 AM  
So it's officially been long enough since the last election that we're supposed to care about Karl Rove's predictions again?
 
2013-03-25 10:50:23 AM  
wtf is a thoday?
 
2013-03-25 10:50:33 AM  
Tho wat?
 
2013-03-25 10:51:07 AM  
Considering the number of other republicans that have come out in favor of gay marriage since Portman's announcement (zero), I doubt the GOP will have a pro-gay marriage candidate in 2016.
 
2013-03-25 10:51:23 AM  
All of their presumptive candidates just got done showing off their hate bona fides at CPAC.
 
2013-03-25 10:55:15 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: So it's officially been long enough since the last election that we're supposed to care about Karl Rove's predictions again?


"The Math" suggests otherwise.
 
2013-03-25 10:56:02 AM  
This GOP candidate will take her flying car to the space poles and vote for herself as has been the American tradition for the past 1100 years.
 
2013-03-25 10:56:12 AM  
FTA:

During an interview with Fox News, said over the weekend that gay marriage was "really a complicated issue" that "the states have the right to decide."


 What exactly is complicated?
And why is every time people want the states to decide something, it involves allowing one group to piss on another group?
 
2013-03-25 10:56:27 AM  

Muta: Considering the number of other republicans that have come out in favor of gay marriage since Portman's announcement (zero), I doubt the GOP will have a pro-gay marriage candidate in 2016.


Number of new republican Presidents in 2017: zero. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2013-03-25 10:56:55 AM  
F off, RINO Rove. When you become conservative, get back to us. Until then, shut the fark up.
 
2013-03-25 10:57:15 AM  

AntiNerd: humanshrapnel: What can we expect from the GOP of thomorrow?

Don't worry. We will still need a home for the bigots, the xenophobes, the fundies, the corporate lobbyists, the gun fetishists ...

... you get the idea. The GOP will still be their home for a long time to come.


These groups latched on to the original ideals of the GOP and have tarnished the brand beyond repair.  They don't get that what they do goes against small government and fiscal responsibility.
 
2013-03-25 10:57:17 AM  

Dr Dreidel: I am a better Republican than Karl Rove.


He's too blah.
 
2013-03-25 10:57:23 AM  
From Slate the other day:
59 percent of Republicans still opposed it. Republicans over 65, the party's most reliable voters, opposed gay marriage by a 68-25 margin.

( . . . )

"I don't think the Republican Party will move away from traditional marriage," said Brown over the phone on Friday. (He's doing plenty of media before NOM marches on the Supreme Court next week, the day of the Prop. 8 hearing.) "There's no way a political party can abandon 80 percent of its electorate and survive. It just doesn't work that way. The idea that young people are the group we have to make this change for, while we abandon the black community's support for marriage, and the Hispanic community's support-all of this is just fantasy so that Rockefeller Republicans, country club Republicans can dictate the future."


Nope, the GOP isn't going to budge on the issue of gay marriage before 2016 and I doubt it will happen before 2020.
 
2013-03-25 10:57:47 AM  
Thapphires!

/sorry, just getting excited for GoT next week.
 
2013-03-25 10:58:25 AM  

Infernalist: Yall are totally missing the greater point in this article.

This is, yet again, another move by the GOP to try and nudge back toward the center by the establishment GOP.

And it will inevitably be met by rage, blind frothing rage, rage from the Tea Derpers who will insist that Karl Rove is secretly gay and is trying to sabotage the GOP from within.

If I were a sneaky fellow, I'd be heading over to freeperland with a derper alt to upload that link, complete with ALL CAPS FURY AND RAEG for them to wallow in.


This. The GOP narcissists are trying to take the reins from the true believers.
 
2013-03-25 11:00:04 AM  
no comment. just a gratuitous ham-rove image posting.

have a nice day

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-25 11:01:12 AM  

Muta: Considering the number of other republicans that have come out in favor of gay marriage since Portman's announcement (zero), I doubt the GOP will have a pro-gay marriage candidate in 2016.


Depending on what the Supremes rule it maybe a moot point by 2016 other than some BS about a constitutional amendment
 
2013-03-25 11:01:39 AM  
In related news, check out the freeper frenzy about the Supreme Court hearings on Prop 8.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3000403/posts?page=1
 
2013-03-25 11:02:03 AM  

homelessdude: no comment. just a gratuitous ham-rove image posting.

have a nice day

[i.imgur.com image 297x261]


How dare you use an image of a deceased to further your political agenda?

I suggest people counter this by donating appropriately:
www.colbertsuperpac.com
 
2013-03-25 11:02:21 AM  
Did Rove also drive Excalibur into a stone in a churchyard in London?
 
2013-03-25 11:03:43 AM  

USCLaw2010: In related news, check out the freeper frenzy about the Supreme Court hearings on Prop 8.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3000403/posts?page=1

"Can someone please explain how an amendment to a State Constitution can be "unconstitutional"?

Yes - I realize that if a state passed an amendment to their own constitution that directly conflicted with the US Constitution - one would see major issues. But an amendment to the STATE Constitution that was legally passed - that does not (at least at this time) conflict with the US Constitution (and as far as I know - the challenge didn't even suggest that it did conflict with the US Constitution)...

What the heck business is it of the SCOTUS in the first place?"


Oh, wow.

I wonder how they would feel if it was a gun law?
 
2013-03-25 11:04:22 AM  
Sounds like a reasonable prediction. If you look at the current GOP there is not really anyone who jumps out as a viable national candidate. They seem to be going in the opposite direction of nailing down the craziness that secures their regional/state spots.
 
2013-03-25 11:04:34 AM  
To be fair, it's quite possible the next GOP president hasn't even been born yet.
 
2013-03-25 11:04:43 AM  

Counter_Intelligent: Did Rove also drive Excalibur into a stone in a churchyard in London?


Well, if by "Excalibur," you mean a nail, and by "a stone in a churchyard" you mean the GOP's coffin...

/got nothin'
 
2013-03-25 11:06:04 AM  
Does Rove know yet whether or not his daddy was gay? Might explain this.
 
2013-03-25 11:07:14 AM  

vygramul: homelessdude: no comment. just a gratuitous ham-rove image posting.

have a nice day

[i.imgur.com image 297x261]

How dare you use an image of a deceased to further your political agenda?

I suggest people counter this by donating appropriately:
[www.colbertsuperpac.com image 650x163]


i595.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-25 11:07:57 AM  
What the Republicans would like to do is allow same-sex marriage at the state level but still have the Defense of Marriage Act ruled constitutional so the Federal government can ignore same-sex marriages for Federal benefits.  Look for some contorted Supreme Court rulings to make this happen.
 
2013-03-25 11:09:49 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: wtf is a thoday?


Thday after yesthaday.
 
2013-03-25 11:09:54 AM  

USCLaw2010: In related news, check out the freeper frenzy about the Supreme Court hearings on Prop 8.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3000403/posts?page=1


They're eating their own.

/it'sbeautiful.jpg
 
2013-03-25 11:10:01 AM  

shotglasss: F off, RINO Rove. When you become conservative, get back to us. Until then, shut the fark up.


No true Scotsman!!!
 
2013-03-25 11:13:14 AM  

Frozboz: skozlaw: I take it Thoday only occurs in Smarch?

Lousy Smarch winters swinter!


stuffpoint.com


Fixed
 
2013-03-25 11:14:18 AM  

shotglasss: F off, RINO Rove. When you become conservative, get back to us. Until then, shut the fark up.


Here you go, conservatives - here's your battle cry. Remember, ideological purity is the most important thing. Everything else - decency, electoral success, everything - is secondary to purity.
 
2013-03-25 11:15:30 AM  

shotglasss: F off, RINO Rove. When you become conservative, get back to us. Until then, shut the fark up.


Get back to work Sarah!
 
2013-03-25 11:15:51 AM  
The people who pick the people you get to choose from are getting tired of the failures on the right. They'll build the Just Shut Up and do what we Say Party.
 
2013-03-25 11:16:06 AM  
I propose we make an official statement declaring that he was right about the 2012 elections, in exchange for him being suddenly and tragically lost in a mountaineering accident.
 
2013-03-25 11:18:11 AM  
Ah, yes.

Good cop, bad cop.

That guy that was just in here, screaming at you? He's a real hard-ass, isn't he? Here, let me get you a cup of coffee. You want a smoke? A cup of joe and a cigarette hit the spot, especially after that dickhead....

/Differentiation needs to be actual differentiation, not propaganda
/The GOP will always serve the rich. Always. At the expense of the poor
/Remember, this is the party whose leaders said members only owe allegiance to the party not the country
 
2013-03-25 11:20:10 AM  

Citrate1007: AntiNerd: humanshrapnel: What can we expect from the GOP of thomorrow?

Don't worry. We will still need a home for the bigots, the xenophobes, the fundies, the corporate lobbyists, the gun fetishists ...

... you get the idea. The GOP will still be their home for a long time to come.

These groups latched on to the original ideals of the GOP and have tarnished the brand beyond repair.  They don't get that what they do goes against small government and fiscal responsibility.


"Small government and fiscal responsibility" == undermining democracy and stealing from the working class. They're all extremely good company for each other regardless of how much "traditional conservatives", "fiscal conservatives", "libertarians" or whatever true Scotsmen are calling themselves this week try to pretend they're better or different than the theocrats.
 
2013-03-25 11:21:19 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Hmmm. Someone who by rights should be a Republican, but for stances on one or more issues that buck party orthodoxy? Where can we find such a man?


[www.biography.com image 402x402]
I am a better Republican than Karl Rove.

// I know that's not exactly TFH


Almost all of the legislation in the link below was passed over nearly unanimous Republican opposition in both Houses of Congress. Conservatives across the country threatened violence over it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_congress

Barack Obama is by no rights a Republican.
 
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