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(Yahoo)   What exactly is a Latino? Even the Pope doesn't know, and he's supposed to be one   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 23
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2013-03-25 08:05:37 AM  
5 votes:
He's an Italian who grew up in Argentina. He's as Latino as I am.
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-03-25 09:47:32 AM  
3 votes:
Race is a human construct.  It's meaningless.
2013-03-25 09:30:41 AM  
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: So basically it then boils down to whether other people from Latin America consider people from Argentina to be Latino. And from the comments in the article, it sounds like many people who call themselves Latino do not.


I'd say it also matters what the other Cardinals consider him.  Because I have a feeling they picked this guy since they saw him as the child of Italian expats, so he is Italian and thus no problems.  But they're happy to present him as a Latino.  Basically a ploy to get credit for electing a non European pope, but not actually having to bite the bullet and elect a Latino or sub Saharan African.
2013-03-25 08:19:21 AM  
2 votes:

Gwendolyn: He's an Italian who grew up in Argentina. He's as Latino as I am.


Didn't they used to speak Latin in Rome?
2013-03-25 08:11:15 AM  
2 votes:
Nazis who fled to Argentina are as Latino as the Pope.
2013-03-25 01:21:59 PM  
1 votes:
Sixth generation Brazilian born.  Is Mrs. Brady a latina?  By the Pope's definition, yes.

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2013-03-25 12:22:43 PM  
1 votes:

costermonger: /by that definition, they  are hispanic; I was unaware it had more racial connotations than your standard ethnic labels


It doesn't.  My wife is Mexican and she and her family use that term all the time.

/everything on fark is racist
2013-03-25 10:30:32 AM  
1 votes:

WippitGuud: irsquareamads:  What do they call black people in Europe?


Immigrants
2013-03-25 10:27:13 AM  
1 votes:
It depends.  If I'm looking to get into college on a diversity grounds, I'm hispanic.  If I'm looking to apply for a rental in a white neighborhood, I'm white.

I think part of the reason there's sensitivity around this is that most hispanics don't have the option of 'passing' for white and so can't avoid racism and discrimination, and so they've intertwined that experience into the definition of being hispanic.  So when someone who looks Europeans claims to be hispanic you'll get everything from rolling eyes to outright hostility.
2013-03-25 10:10:41 AM  
1 votes:

irsquareamads: WippitGuud: irsquareamads:

Yet we call all black people in America "African-Americans" pretty much regardless of where they were actually born (US, Haiti, etc), so technically wouldn't he be an "Italian-Argentinian"?

What do they call black people in Europe?

I don't know, ask a European.  I'd assume that they'd call them by whatever country they're from.  I don't think there are too many African-Englishman or African-Germans running around.


If we're discussing their nationality we call them British, if we're discussing the colour of their skin we call them black, or whatever.  If we're discussing their heritage we will sometimes use Afro-Caribbean, if they are from that area, otherwise it's African, or if more information is known, then the specific country they came from. You won't get Kenyan-English, or Afro-Londonese, either they're British, or they're Congolese.

I personally think calling people Italian-American, African-American, etc, is just a needless barrier to further integration. Everyone should just be American and embrace that, not the past divisions that keep hate alive.

Anyway, the pope is Latino if Latino means someone from Latin America. If he's Italian then he just has a further claim to the Latin part.
2013-03-25 10:08:08 AM  
1 votes:
Latino
Chicano
Hispanic
TacoBell

No idea what they mean. Just that they're all browny people.
2013-03-25 10:07:33 AM  
1 votes:
I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but I did see this newly leaked photo of the Popemobile.

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2013-03-25 10:07:32 AM  
1 votes:

NEPAman: A "Latino" is an offensive term to someone who's "Hispanic"

/Like me.

//Now I'm done.


You're all brown people to us.
2013-03-25 10:01:47 AM  
1 votes:

WippitGuud: irsquareamads:

Yet we call all black people in America "African-Americans" pretty much regardless of where they were actually born (US, Haiti, etc), so technically wouldn't he be an "Italian-Argentinian"?

What do they call black people in Europe?


Usually by their first name, except in formal occasion, where the surname is usually preceded with title.
2013-03-25 09:53:49 AM  
1 votes:
A "Latino" is anyone who self identifies as "Latino".  I, for example, am a German-Latino-American.

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2013-03-25 09:52:52 AM  
1 votes:
I find that the same people who want to exclude people of pure European heritage that were born in South America from calling themselves "Latino" also get upset with how Americans have claimed the title, "American" for themselves. Their argument is, by being from South America, they should have the right to be called, "Americans" too rather than "South Americans." Never mind the fact that again,  the people these "Latinos" exclude from calling themselves "Latinos" are often from Roman rooted cultures. You know, Romans. The original Latins.

/seriously, did I miss that day in history class where Caesar crossed the Rubicon into Lima?
//half Puerto Rican. Doesn't call herself Latino because I feel I should be wearing a toga when doing so
2013-03-25 09:38:06 AM  
1 votes:
He's still white. Who cares where he comes from. Wake me up when they have a REAL ethnic minority for a Pope.
2013-03-25 09:32:28 AM  
1 votes:
"Italo-compatible". I hate it when I bring a brand new Pope home from the store and he won't plug into my Italian popesocket.
2013-03-25 09:17:44 AM  
1 votes:
The Pope speaks Latin. He's a Latino. Why is that so hard?
2013-03-25 08:15:46 AM  
1 votes:

flucto: dittybopper: Isn't a latino one of the six types of leptons?

It's sideways from a neutrino


Ah, yes, the "Neutral Ones".  They hang out with the Pros while the Elected Ones circle around.

/Tron means "Dude".
2013-03-25 08:09:06 AM  
1 votes:
I submitted this with a better headline
2013-03-25 08:09:03 AM  
1 votes:
I'll need to see his tats before making an official call.
2013-03-25 08:03:01 AM  
1 votes:
Isn't a latino one of the six types of leptons?
 
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