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(Politico)   5 takeaways from Obama's Israel trip: Bromance, Romance, Turkmance, Nomance and Biden   (politico.com) divider line 33
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2013-03-25 07:40:23 AM
fta During Obama's first couple of years in office, he pursued a strategy on Israeli-Palestinian peace that - intentionally or not - seemed to involve putting greater distance between the United States and the Jewish state.

Glad to see Politico didn't forget to rehash that old AM radio chestnut
 
2013-03-25 07:41:32 AM
During Obama's first couple of years in office, he pursued a strategy on Israeli-Palestinian peace that - intentionally or not - seemed to involve putting greater distance between the United States and the Jewish state.


Intentionally or not, the Obama administration continued to have the same policies as the Bush admin on Israel and furthermore comma
 
2013-03-25 07:46:26 AM
Has Politico always been this shiatty? For some reason they've always managed to fly under my radar so to speak
 
2013-03-25 07:50:12 AM

Jackson Herring: Has Politico always been this shiatty? For some reason they've always managed to fly under my radar so to speak


No, they started out pretty good but are rocketing downhill at an ever increasing rate. Nowadays, they are just shiatty.
 
2013-03-25 07:52:02 AM
hipsterjew.com
 
2013-03-25 07:54:43 AM

HairBolus:


What is he doing? Is that kosher killing?
 
2013-03-25 07:58:43 AM

Notabunny: fta During Obama's first couple of years in office, he pursued a strategy on Israeli-Palestinian peace that - intentionally or not - seemed to involve putting greater distance between the United States and the Jewish state.

Glad to see Politico didn't forget to rehash that old AM radio chestnut


I think the only thing the administration disagreed with the Israelis about was the ugency of bombing Iran.  Netanyahu wanted more bombing whereas Obama wanted to take a level headed approach.  Apart from that, I think the US and the Israelis were pretty close on most issues.
 
2013-03-25 08:01:34 AM

Muta: I think the only thing the administration disagreed with the Israelis about was the ugency of bombing Iran. Netanyahu wanted more bombing whereas Obama wanted to take a level headed approach. Apart from that, I think the US and the Israelis were pretty close on most issues.


pfft, that still makes him an anti-Semite in the eyes of the freakishly pro-Israel, anti-Jew right wing

HairBolus: [hipsterjew.com image 450x327]


Jewish "farking a chicken" metaphor?
 
2013-03-25 08:13:54 AM
Actually there were six but the official scorer missed a steal.
 
2013-03-25 08:14:40 AM

Notabunny: that old AM radio chestnut


That's what I call my dingleberries
 
2013-03-25 08:42:52 AM
You forgot the Rock, subby.
 
2013-03-25 08:46:44 AM

Smoking GNU: You forgot the Rock, subby.


to be fair, with the exception of the Biden at the end, I summarized the article fairly well
 
2013-03-25 09:31:23 AM
You could have put some Joemance in there for Biden.
 
2013-03-25 09:40:27 AM

fzumrk: You could have put some Joemance in there for Biden.


wouldn't have had the same ring to it though. I thought about it but decided to go with "4 rhymes and a Biden" approach
 
2013-03-25 09:46:43 AM

johnryan51: HairBolus:

What is he doing? Is that kosher killing?


I looked for this image in tineye and found it on the Danish National Front (which is as bad as it sounds) and a Christian extremist site. So, yeah, it's probably a form of kosher killing.
 
2013-03-25 09:51:05 AM

vygramul: johnryan51: HairBolus:

What is he doing? Is that kosher killing?

I looked for this image in tineye and found it on the Danish National Front (which is as bad as it sounds) and a Christian extremist site. So, yeah, it's probably a form of kosher killing.


is that how Kosher killing works!? you gotta be a pretty strong dude to do that to a cow though. I have a newfound respect for the people that make kosher beef franks.
 
2013-03-25 10:06:01 AM

kbronsito: vygramul: johnryan51: HairBolus:

What is he doing? Is that kosher killing?

I looked for this image in tineye and found it on the Danish National Front (which is as bad as it sounds) and a Christian extremist site. So, yeah, it's probably a form of kosher killing.

is that how Kosher killing works!? you gotta be a pretty strong dude to do that to a cow though. I have a newfound respect for the people that make kosher beef franks.


lulz
 
2013-03-25 10:12:58 AM
Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!
 
2013-03-25 10:21:26 AM

Wooly Bully: Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!


The pro-Israel (which is to say, Conservative/Orthodox, which is to say you-know-who) Jewish faction here on Fark is likely none too happy about that fact, and therefore don't want any serious discussion.
 
2013-03-25 10:22:40 AM
If I was Obama, I would have a private meeting with Netanyahu, lean back, put my arms behind my head, and ask:
"So how did endorsing Romney work out for you?"
 
2013-03-25 10:27:28 AM

Wooly Bully: Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!


Can you imagine if Obama had given on US soil the speech he gave in Jerusalem?  The talking heads over at FOX and the right-wing shills here would still be in mid-swoon.  Instead, nothing.
 
2013-03-25 10:35:06 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Wooly Bully: Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!

The pro-Israel (which is to say, Conservative/Orthodox, which is to say you-know-who) Jewish faction here on Fark is likely none too happy about that fact, and therefore don't want any serious discussion.


Crunch61: Wooly Bully: Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!

Can you imagine if Obama had given on US soil the speech he gave in Jerusalem?  The talking heads over at FOX and the right-wing shills here would still be in mid-swoon.  Instead, nothing.


Heh. It's kind of disappointing, although I should know better. Besides the fart jokes and fat dog pictures, the main draw of this tab for me is hearing what regular people I wouldn't normally hear from think about stories like this.
 
2013-03-25 10:40:42 AM

somedude210: Jewish "farking a chicken" metaphor?


I believe it then becomes "Keep schtooping that chicken"
 
2013-03-25 11:24:24 AM

vygramul: johnryan51: HairBolus:

What is he doing? Is that kosher killing?

I looked for this image in tineye and found it on the Danish National Front (which is as bad as it sounds) and a Christian extremist site. So, yeah, it's probably a form of kosher killing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapparot

I remember reading about it in Art Jacobs' Year of Living Biblically so I looked that up, then Googled "Kaparot". That exact picture came up in the results so I'm guessing it's either part of the ritual or a hilariously mistagged photo.

/could go either way
//but then, i read it on the internet, so it must be true
 
2013-03-25 11:29:00 AM

Crunch61: Wooly Bully: Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!

Can you imagine if Obama had given on US soil the speech he gave in Jerusalem?  The talking heads over at FOX and the right-wing shills here would still be in mid-swoon.  Instead, nothing.


Well no. They can't be seen admitting that he did a good job. Corollary to your point, if Romney had gone over there and given that speech verbatim, they'd cover nothing else for the rest of the trip. By the time he got home the impact alone of his words would have caused the temple to be rebuilt. Instead ... nothing. Fox's silence at this point is all the approval Obama needs anymore.
 
2013-03-25 01:00:22 PM
A long, well written, nuanced, article about Israel, Obama, and ME relations...  no wonder there's only 25 comments!
The length of reading required and lack of troll topics weeded out the majority of the idiots who chime in on these things usually.

I'm really glad that Obama is now being viewed as a pragmatic ally of Israel vs. the murky waters that were started in the first term.  It's never a good idea to 'distance oneself from their allies' and as far as what the objective of Obama's mission was, he achieved closer ties and peace (as with Turkey).

/As far as the picture of the Super Orthodox with chickens in their hand, that's a rare practice of animal sacrifice by a small group of Orthodox Jews in Israel that still upholds the old-old school tradition... even they are rethinking that one.
 
2013-03-25 01:33:47 PM

Muta: Notabunny: fta During Obama's first couple of years in office, he pursued a strategy on Israeli-Palestinian peace that - intentionally or not - seemed to involve putting greater distance between the United States and the Jewish state.

Glad to see Politico didn't forget to rehash that old AM radio chestnut

I think the only thing the administration disagreed with the Israelis about was the ugency of bombing Iran.  Netanyahu wanted more bombing whereas Obama wanted to take a level headed approach.  Apart from that, I think the US and the Israelis were pretty close on most issues.


The U.S. (except for the Armageddon nuts) is not so fond of ongoing Israeli housing development in the occupied West Bank.
 
2013-03-25 01:54:39 PM

carpbrain: The U.S. (except for the Armageddon nuts) is not so fond of ongoing Israeli housing development in the occupied West Bank.


CarpBrain, I am incredibly glad that you, or anyone with your level of diplomacy, are not anywhere near the Middle-East strategy.

The reason Obama's trip was so successful was that he layed off on such incendiary topics as you described above.  Things like natural growth of local population on the Eastern front (which you described as Armageddon nut development in the occupied west bank) or Jerusalem's status, or the right of return, or any number of things that only MAKE THINGS WORSE (as your comment did).

It's a refreshing read to hear positive achievements between Israel and Turkey.

I think this one quote really underscores the MAJOR philosophical issue with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict:
"in a part of the world where many take a zero-sum point of view, any step closer to the Israelis is a step away from the Palestinians."

It's sad that the paradigm is that it's either ONE or the OTHER, when most reasoned people wish for PEACE between BOTH.
 
2013-03-25 02:11:37 PM

NostroZ: A long, well written, nuanced, article about Israel, Obama, and ME relations...  no wonder there's only 25 comments!
The length of reading required and lack of troll topics weeded out the majority of the idiots who chime in on these things usually.

I'm really glad that Obama is now being viewed as a pragmatic ally of Israel vs. the murky waters that were started in the first term.  It's never a good idea to 'distance oneself from their allies' and as far as what the objective of Obama's mission was, he achieved closer ties and peace (as with Turkey).

/As far as the picture of the Super Orthodox with chickens in their hand, that's a rare practice of animal sacrifice by a small group of Orthodox Jews in Israel that still upholds the old-old school tradition... even they are rethinking that one.


Sure, in the reality-based world. But in the Foxosphere? Not so much.
 
2013-03-25 02:21:26 PM

NostroZ: well written


no
 
2013-03-25 02:42:33 PM

Notabunny: NostroZ: A long, well written, nuanced, article about Israel, Obama, and ME relations...  no wonder there's only 25 comments!
The length of reading required and lack of troll topics weeded out the majority of the idiots who chime in on these things usually.

I'm really glad that Obama is now being viewed as a pragmatic ally of Israel vs. the murky waters that were started in the first term.  It's never a good idea to 'distance oneself from their allies' and as far as what the objective of Obama's mission was, he achieved closer ties and peace (as with Turkey).

/As far as the picture of the Super Orthodox with chickens in their hand, that's a rare practice of animal sacrifice by a small group of Orthodox Jews in Israel that still upholds the old-old school tradition... even they are rethinking that one.

Sure, in the reality-based world. But in the Foxosphere? Not so much.


Fox News!!!  LOL - They Fox'd that shyat up real good.

I never watch TV News, it's a troll-heavy industry.
The clip certainly shows what one would expect from Fox News: a lack of reality, emotion baiting, and a hateful partisan tone, which kind of reminds me of the attitude that some Farkers take on political issues.  It's almost as though once the standard is set so low everyone (by whichever side first), both sides resort to slinging doo-doo at one another like monkeys on a tree.
 
2013-03-25 02:44:33 PM

Jackson Herring: NostroZ: well written

no


I'm glad that out of the entire article, my post, and reply you're one point of interest is the line of "well written".

I'll concede your argument that it's not well-written, if you concede that you're being petty and avoiding a discussion of substance.
 
2013-03-27 05:19:18 AM
Wooly Bully
Is this really the only thread about Obama's trip? It was front-page news because he restored relations between Turkey and Israel. It's almost as if the Fark politics tab isn't really so much about politics and is mostly just a pretext for trolly headlines. I'm shocked - shocked!

It really is strange... way back when, important news used to hit here first, along with quite a few important pieces that missed the major headlines. The greenlighted stories have completely changed, now, and almost exclusively consist of either lowest-brow "politician did something" gossip or links to the absolute crappiest bottom-of-the-barrel insight-free content about some major story (like this thread), with an occasional hot-button-issue flamewar thread thrown in every now and again for good measure.

Audience contempt and/or the desire to torpedo the tab and drive off insightful commentary seem to be the most reasonable explanations for this shift. It's really lame.
 
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