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2013-03-25 01:18:38 AM  
As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.
 
2013-03-25 03:39:43 AM  
If this team's starters stay healthy and out of foul trouble, they can win this entire damn tournament.

I'm not saying they will, because they won't. But they CAN.
 
2013-03-25 03:42:18 AM  
They're like the Nuggets of the NCAA. I shall do my utmost rooting for them.
 
2013-03-25 03:47:17 AM  

rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.


After this, the Florida recruiters are going to have a bit of a tougher time of things.

San Diego State committed 16 turnovers and that's a killer against a team that feasts off points in transition. The mistakes led to countless runouts and easy buckets for Florida Gulf Coast.

Translation: FGCU absolutely loves swiping the ball and immediately hosting their very own dunk contest on the other side of the floor. Those are the points that demoralize you more than any other kind.
 
2013-03-25 03:55:34 AM  
12 v 15 in the Final
Oregon v FGCU
 
2013-03-25 04:05:39 AM  

rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.


I hadn't thought about that. I was hoping that the week off in between would give them enough time to get into their own heads when their entire school spent the week telling them how amazing they were. The emotional roller coaster would just be too much, and they would crash.

Not that Im against them, mind you. I just have Florida winning this next game.
 
2013-03-25 04:11:12 AM  

srhp29: 12 v 15 in the Final
Oregon v FGCU


Oh how that would be so great.

And hopefully the ghost of Ralph Miller chokes Oregon and FGCU wins the title. For teh lulz.
 
2013-03-25 04:19:48 AM  

Gosling: rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.

After this, the Florida recruiters are going to have a bit of a tougher time of things.

San Diego State committed 16 turnovers and that's a killer against a team that feasts off points in transition. The mistakes led to countless runouts and easy buckets for Florida Gulf Coast.

Translation: FGCU absolutely loves swiping the ball and immediately hosting their very own dunk contest on the other side of the floor. Those are the points that demoralize you more than any other kind.


When Florida's off their game, they turn over the ball with infuriating frequency. I don't think this looks good for my beloved school
 
2013-03-25 05:39:26 AM  

srhp29: 12 v 15 in the Final
Oregon v FGCU


Oregon would have to get past La Salle in the Final Four first. That's no gimme.
 
2013-03-25 05:59:19 AM  
As exciting as they are, their probation in three years is going to be even better.
 
2013-03-25 06:02:11 AM  
Isn't one of the star players a walk-on?
 
2013-03-25 06:12:02 AM  
There are more 12-through-15 seeds in the Sweet 16 than there are 5-through-11 seeds.
 
2013-03-25 06:28:20 AM  
I'm really pulling for FGCU, but heck of a game between Temple and IU. Loved how Wyatt, who Id never heard of, was tearing it up, and talking trash the whole game. Then, Vic hits the big three, and calmly walks over and whispers something to him.
 
2013-03-25 07:13:08 AM  

rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.


I think you'll probably see an end to it for several reasons:

- Donovan and the Florida coaches will have a ~week to study film
- Everyone is going to want a piece of the FGCU kids/program this week. Interviews, texts, calls, congratulations...everything but basketball
- They're probably playing a little over their heads. They obviously have a great program and a lot of their players probably "deserve" to be a bigger programs, but this is still a 10 loss team that lost to VCU, Duke, St. Johns, and Iowa State, lost 5 games in their conference.

I'll be rooting for them for certain, but I just think that you get them out of that "We're in the tournament, we've got nothing to lose" mentality for a few days, the reality of the situation sets in and it'll be tough for them to play at the level they have been.
 
2013-03-25 07:14:01 AM  
has anyone seen the pictures of the Florida Gulf Coast dorms? they are literally right on the beach
 
2013-03-25 07:36:39 AM  

jayhawk88: They're probably playing a little over their heads. They obviously have a great program and a lot of their players probably "deserve" to be a bigger programs, but this is still a 10 loss team that lost to VCU, Duke, St. Johns, and Iowa State, lost 5 games in their conference.


and beat Miami, Georgetown, and San Diego State

At this point anything can happen next weekend.
 
2013-03-25 08:19:36 AM  
I'm almost tempted to turn on ESPN this morning and listen to Colin Blowhard explain to us why FGCU and Wichita State are bad for the tournament.

Almost.
 
2013-03-25 08:20:58 AM  
jayhawk88: And what happened yesterday?  Was Kansas asleep at the wheel for the first half?  The final score was entirely expected, but for the life of me I don't understand how we got out to such a big lead.
 
2013-03-25 08:30:09 AM  

Gosling: rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.

After this, the Florida recruiters are going to have a bit of a tougher time of things.

San Diego State committed 16 turnovers and that's a killer against a team that feasts off points in transition. The mistakes led to countless runouts and easy buckets for Florida Gulf Coast.

Translation: FGCU absolutely loves swiping the ball and immediately hosting their very own dunk contest on the other side of the floor. Those are the points that demoralize you more than any other kind.


Goes for a lot of the A-sun games.  They are a blast to watch.  With lower percentage individual shooters, they have to make plays.  FGCU has over 500 assists this season and Mercer is at 497 with one less game.  If our refs didn't suck, it'd be even better.  Hell, if they were just consistent.

Massive props to FGCU this year, I'm enjoying watching them.  They don't get the chance to fly like that against Mercer.
 
2013-03-25 08:30:57 AM  

SlothB77: has anyone seen the pictures of the Florida Gulf Coast dorms? they are literally right on the beach


2.bp.blogspot.com

wow.  I did that college thing wrong
 
2013-03-25 08:33:03 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I'm almost tempted to turn on ESPN this morning and listen to Colin Blowhard explain to us why FGCU and Wichita State are bad for the tournament.

Almost.


I'm sure he will.
 
2013-03-25 08:33:04 AM  
Well, after K-State got La Salle'd the other day I was kinda depressed and didn't want to think about basketball anymore.

But then I watched Wichita State win and FGCU win and I forgot all my troubles and had fun again.

Good times.
 
2013-03-25 08:36:13 AM  
If you think your seed is wrong, prove it on the court like Gonzaga did.
 
2013-03-25 08:36:26 AM  

jayhawk88: rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.

I think you'll probably see an end to it for several reasons:

- Donovan and the Florida coaches will have a ~week to study film
- Everyone is going to want a piece of the FGCU kids/program this week. Interviews, texts, calls, congratulations...everything but basketball
- They're probably playing a little over their heads. They obviously have a great program and a lot of their players probably "deserve" to be a bigger programs, but this is still a 10 loss team that lost to VCU, Duke, St. Johns, and Iowa State, lost 5 games in their conference.

I'll be rooting for them for certain, but I just think that you get them out of that "We're in the tournament, we've got nothing to lose" mentality for a few days, the reality of the situation sets in and it'll be tough for them to play at the level they have been.


If they can break the post-half dash that won FGCU the past 3 games (if not more), then UF will hold.  But FGCU has too many guys that can nail contested 3s and a lot of speed on their bench that the tournament hasn't even seen.

I don't think they'll down UF, but then again my optimistic A-sun bracket had them losing last night and they proved me wrong.
 
2013-03-25 08:40:52 AM  

UNC_Samurai: jayhawk88: And what happened yesterday?  Was Kansas asleep at the wheel for the first half?  The final score was entirely expected, but for the life of me I don't understand how we got out to such a big lead.


I can't figure out this team for the life of me. All year it's been like this: Either they're one of the top 5 teams in the country, or they couldn't beat a YMCA rec-league team. That first half, they had to have, what, 20 misses in the first 10-15 minutes? They make like 2 shots in a row and somehow get a lead, then UNC goes on that run at the end of the half.

Second half, McLemore misses the lob and they had like 2 other misses after that, more bad turnovers, seems like more of the same. Then Withey makes those two dunks and all of the sudden the switch is flipped. Now they're ready to take on the Charlotte Bobcats.

I don't think there's much chance of us beating Michigan. Hardaway and Burke are going to have their way against EJ, Releford and Tharpe.
 
2013-03-25 08:50:35 AM  

jayhawk88: I don't think there's much chance of us beating Michigan. Hardaway and Burke are going to have their way against EJ, Releford and Tharpe.


Unfortunately, my thought as well. When they're clicking, KU is a monster. when they're bricking shots and turning it over, they get beat by a team as bad as TCU. I think Michigan's guard play will be too much.
 
2013-03-25 08:53:33 AM  

Biff_Steel: Unfortunately, my thought as well. When they're clicking, KU is a monster. when they're bricking shots and turning it over, they get beat by a team as bad as TCU. I think Michigan's guard play will be too much.


funny enough that's how Michigan is.  Look at their loss to MSU earlier this season.  It's up in the air who will show up for that one, but I hope both do.
 
2013-03-25 09:00:08 AM  

thecpt: wow. I did that college thing wrong


Depends on if you want to live your life in four years of your youth or the forty afterwards.  I can't imagine getting much homework done there.

I honestly don't know which is better.  Just sayin'.  Moving closer to the beach wouldn't have gotten me any closer to getting laid so my choice was made for me, in a sense.

jayhawk88: I don't think there's much chance of us beating Michigan. Hardaway and Burke are going to have their way against EJ, Releford and Tharpe.


Michigan was also one of only two B1G teams to lose to Pedo State, the other being 13-19 Northwestern.  In other words, they have the same problem Kansas has -- when they're on, they're unbeatable, but Michigan's worst enemy is their own inconsistency.  The same team that crushed VCU could very well have had 20 turnovers and lost by 20 if they arrived with the wrong mindset.  They're playing their best basketball at the right time, but Wolverine fans are taking it game by game because they know it could end at any round regardless of the opponent.
 
2013-03-25 09:01:40 AM  
Watched FGCU twice, and that's not a 15 seed team. The selection committee didn't do their homework on that team.
 
2013-03-25 09:12:31 AM  

dragonchild: Depends on if you want to live your life in four years of your youth or the forty afterwards.  I can't imagine getting much homework done there.


Yeah I hate to admit it, but there's no way I could have gone to school there.

*Bzzz Bzzz Bzzz BzSMACK*
"Hmm...I've got Calc2 in 10 minutes, or I could walk 25 feet and hang out on Paradise Beach all day, drinking cheap beer and watching supermodels-in-training frolic in the surf with their wet, glistening, 18-23 year old bodies highlighted against the warm, rising sun."
 
2013-03-25 09:28:55 AM  
Then again, if they were a No. 1 seed, everyone would be complaining about how they lost 10 games and don't deserve it, and everyone would be rooting for them to lose.
 
2013-03-25 09:35:30 AM  

IAmRight: Then again, if they were a No. 1 seed, everyone would be complaining about how they lost 10 games and don't deserve it, and everyone would be rooting for them to lose.


This is the tournament! The rest of the season didn't matter, and the only teams that should be in the tournament are the biggest and best known programs, grumble grumble mid majors grumble grumble.  A team's seed should perfectly predict how a team is playing NOW and not how effective they were against their schedule over the course of 4 months!  Absolute retards they are.

/sorry, a couple of these threads have been getting to me.
 
2013-03-25 09:43:24 AM  

thecpt: sorry, a couple of these threads have been getting to me.


This is part of why I argue against playoffs in college football - at that point, literally everything will be playoff-based and it will only further the opinion that one game in the playoffs "proves" more than a season's worth of work.

/the only thing I like about soccer is that teams actually get something for having a great regular season.
 
2013-03-25 09:53:34 AM  

IAmRight: /the only thing I like about soccer is that teams actually get something for having a great regular season.


I don't know enough about soccer, but I love the ncaa tournament and what it means to athletes.  Putting 64(68) teams on the biggest stage and just seeing what happens is to me the ideal competition and proof of sportsmanship.  Granted whoever wins I don't really think of them as the pure best team, but rather I'll tip my hat to that program for surviving the most grueling athletic tournament there is.  My example is, I think it was 4 years ago, when MSU beat 2 number one seeds in a row to make the final game against UNC but they absolutely got demolished in the final game.  UNC had the much easier path to that game, and MSU went 2 for 3 against teams ranked the top 4 in the nation.  UNC won, good for them, but give MSU credit.  Nope. People had to say another B1G ol' choke.

/I'm starting to think a first round bye in the NFL playoffs isn't necessarily a good thing either.
 
2013-03-25 09:55:08 AM  

Where wolf: jayhawk88: rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.

I think you'll probably see an end to it for several reasons:

- Donovan and the Florida coaches will have a ~week to study film
- Everyone is going to want a piece of the FGCU kids/program this week. Interviews, texts, calls, congratulations...everything but basketball
- They're probably playing a little over their heads. They obviously have a great program and a lot of their players probably "deserve" to be a bigger programs, but this is still a 10 loss team that lost to VCU, Duke, St. Johns, and Iowa State, lost 5 games in their conference.

I'll be rooting for them for certain, but I just think that you get them out of that "We're in the tournament, we've got nothing to lose" mentality for a few days, the reality of the situation sets in and it'll be tough for them to play at the level they have been.

If they can break the post-half dash that won FGCU the past 3 games (if not more), then UF will hold.  But FGCU has too many guys that can nail contested 3s and a lot of speed on their bench that the tournament hasn't even seen.

I don't think they'll down UF, but then again my optimistic A-sun bracket had them losing last night and they proved me wrong.


UF will slow the game down and force it on both sides into a half court, grind it out, go home with a busted lip and two black eyes type of game. I don't think that FGC's bench is deep enough to withstand that. That game is going to be ugly.
 
2013-03-25 09:55:19 AM  

JerseyTim: As exciting as they are, their probation in three years is going to be even better.


Why would they get probation?  They aren't rocking Blue Chips that could have gone anywhere but inexplicibly all decided to go to FGCU.   If anything they are playing with a desire to show the big schools what they passed up.
 
2013-03-25 10:01:10 AM  

thecpt: Putting 64(68) teams on the biggest stage and just seeing what happens is to me the ideal competition and proof of sportsmanship.


Don't get me wrong, it's fun. But the fact that the conclusions are drawn based more on a tournament than anything else is silly. Though obviously when you have 300+ teams in a "league," you're not going to be able to have everyone play everyone.

thecpt: but rather I'll tip my hat to that program for surviving the most grueling athletic tournament there is.


6 basketball games in three weeks isn't really close to the most grueling athletic tournament, and I say that as someone who loves basketball.
 
2013-03-25 10:01:29 AM  

IAmRight: thecpt: sorry, a couple of these threads have been getting to me.

This is part of why I argue against playoffs in college football - at that point, literally everything will be playoff-based and it will only further the opinion that one game in the playoffs "proves" more than a season's worth of work.

/the only thing I like about soccer is that teams actually get something for having a great regular season.


The only way your playoff sentiments make sense is if you are not in favor of any defnitive classfication of a champion in FBS football.  Because with the system in place now there's way too much chance for a three or four team tie on top with thre or four undefeated or one loss teams who haven't played any of the same teams.  IMO, a playoff is a perfect solution to that.  Oh, you say you're the best because you went undefeated in the Big 10?  Well, here's your chance to prove you're better than those undefeated chumps from the Pac-10, SEC, ACC (sorry couldnt keep a straight face).  I don't think that diminishes the regular season, I think it puts the cherry on top.

Soccer makes it work because of their round robin home and home schedule.  Too many football teams for that to ever happen.
 
2013-03-25 10:03:12 AM  

IAmRight: thecpt: sorry, a couple of these threads have been getting to me.

This is part of why I argue against playoffs in college football - at that point, literally everything will be playoff-based and it will only further the opinion that one game in the playoffs "proves" more than a season's worth of work.

/the only thing I like about soccer is that teams actually get something for having a great regular season.


That is a stupid thing to say. Then why have a championship game then? That one championship game proves more than a seasons worth of work. The point of the regular season is to prove that you are a team that deserves to play for a championship and to get a preferential spot in the playoffs. The point of the playoffs is to have the best teams play to see who is truly the best. If you can't beat the best teams, then that does prove more than a seasons worth of work.
 
2013-03-25 10:04:38 AM  
And yes, Blowhard comes right out of the gate biatching about LaSalle-Wichita State.  He's equivocating enjoying upsets and Cinderella teams with marrying a bimbo and bad financial discipline.  I may not make it more than ten minutes.
 
2013-03-25 10:05:20 AM  
After looking at their campus, I wish they had been a school a little while longer. I would have loved spending 4 years there
 
2013-03-25 10:06:34 AM  

IAmRight: Don't get me wrong, it's fun. But the fact that the conclusions are drawn based more on a tournament than anything else is silly. Though obviously when you have 300+ teams in a "league," you're not going to be able to have everyone play everyone.


yeah, I think it should be called tournament champion and there shouldn't be a national champion

IAmRight: 6 basketball games in three weeks isn't really close to the most grueling athletic tournament, and I say that as someone who loves basketball.


Yeah, grueling wasn't the right word.  Maybe competitive?  I mean playing 6 different teams all that are in the top 18% of teams in the country is pretty cool.  Different teams, players, hot streaks, coaches, styles, and philosophies and your team has to be the one to overcome them.
 
2013-03-25 10:07:49 AM  

Swoop1809: After looking at their campus, I wish they had been a school a little while longer. I would have loved spending 4 years there


On that campus, I would have been on the 5 year plan. Or six.
 
2013-03-25 10:10:33 AM  

ChrisDe: Swoop1809: After looking at their campus, I wish they had been a school a little while longer. I would have loved spending 4 years there

On that campus, I would have been on the 5 year plan. Or six.


Hell, I would have been the guy that just takes 1 class a semester, hangs out on campus and crashes in different peoples dorm rooms each night.
 
2013-03-25 10:12:35 AM  

ongbok: Hell, I would have been the guy that just takes 1 class a semester, hangs out on campus and crashes in different peoples dorm rooms each night.


My guess is, they'll see enrollment skyrocket after this year.  Maybe they should install a late applicant program and quickly buy the best western down the street
 
2013-03-25 10:13:45 AM  

ChrisDe: Swoop1809: After looking at their campus, I wish they had been a school a little while longer. I would have loved spending 4 years there

On that campus, I would have been on the 5 year plan. Or six.


Oh ye of simple plans.  No, the trick would be to go to graduate school there, and at least get paid to hang out on campus.

/they've apparently got some decent M.A. and M.Ed. programs for an institution that came into being less than 20 years ago
 
2013-03-25 10:19:28 AM  

thecpt: ongbok: Hell, I would have been the guy that just takes 1 class a semester, hangs out on campus and crashes in different peoples dorm rooms each night.

My guess is, they'll see enrollment skyrocket after this year.  Maybe they should install a late applicant program and quickly buy the best western down the street


They're probably going to see a jump in out-of-state applications. Florida kids won't pick a school based on beach proximity because growing up close to the beach you take it for granted (I ended up going to school on top of a mountain in rural north Georgia in part because mountains were novel and beaches aren't). Now that a bunch of kids who are still getting snowed on see the campus though, they'll be raking in the big bucks on nonresident tuition.
 
2013-03-25 10:21:30 AM  

ongbok: Then why have a championship game then?


Because sports fans are irrational.  Which is fine; sports fans don't follow sports to be rational.  If anything, when I want a rational discussion, I stay the hell away from sports fans, which is sad because I like sports and there's a lot of rationality to be had, if sports fans were rational.  But they're not.

There is such a thing in sports as a "mismatch"; a team that has just the right mix of personnel to take on an otherwise superior team.  VCU, for example, was the nightmare matchup to any team that didn't have a great point guard.  While they were certainly good enough to qualify, the fact that they eat inexperienced and unathletic guards for lunch by itself doesn't mean they're the best in the nation.  That said, it could mean they could've taken out the nation's best frontcourt if things turned out differently.  As luck would have it they got demolished by one of the best point guards in the country instead, but that was their mismatch -- no one expects Michigan to go the distance, as Michigan in turn is vulnerable to teams with more size.  There's a rock-paper-scissors element to mismatches that can often trump overall quality, but. . . bah, I'm wasting my time.  Sport fans are irrational.  The tournament winner is always the best and that's all there is.
 
2013-03-25 10:25:14 AM  

rynthetyn: Now that a bunch of kids who are still getting snowed on see the campus though, they'll be raking in the big bucks on nonresident tuition.


Isn't the deal in florida something like $2,000 for instate tuition?  Yeah, they're about to make bank off of Northern applicants at that rate.
 
2013-03-25 10:27:40 AM  

ongbok: Where wolf: jayhawk88: rynthetyn: As much as I hate to say it, being a Gator and all, but if I were the betting sort I wouldn't bet against FGCU in their matchup against Florida. The chance for kids who were probably passed over by Gator recruiters to beat the behemoth of Florida sports, on top of everything else, is going to make this more interesting than the average cinderella story.

I think you'll probably see an end to it for several reasons:

- Donovan and the Florida coaches will have a ~week to study film
- Everyone is going to want a piece of the FGCU kids/program this week. Interviews, texts, calls, congratulations...everything but basketball
- They're probably playing a little over their heads. They obviously have a great program and a lot of their players probably "deserve" to be a bigger programs, but this is still a 10 loss team that lost to VCU, Duke, St. Johns, and Iowa State, lost 5 games in their conference.

I'll be rooting for them for certain, but I just think that you get them out of that "We're in the tournament, we've got nothing to lose" mentality for a few days, the reality of the situation sets in and it'll be tough for them to play at the level they have been.

If they can break the post-half dash that won FGCU the past 3 games (if not more), then UF will hold.  But FGCU has too many guys that can nail contested 3s and a lot of speed on their bench that the tournament hasn't even seen.

I don't think they'll down UF, but then again my optimistic A-sun bracket had them losing last night and they proved me wrong.

UF will slow the game down and force it on both sides into a half court, grind it out, go home with a busted lip and two black eyes type of game. I don't think that FGC's bench is deep enough to withstand that. That game is going to be ugly.


Ugly in the good way.  FGCU is being characterized as a run-and-gun team, but they can play half court just as well with their speed and outside shooting.  They have a way of getting under your skin and changing the tempo.  If UF can keep their cool and not try to respond to power plays, the eagles won't get momentum.

They haven't had a defense in the post-season that can stop them yet, but Mercer was only 21st in points allowed, Georgetown 10th. Florida is number two, that may make the difference.

Then again, Florida lost to Tennessee.  Mercer split with FGCU and beat the pants off of Tennessee.  I don't know if I'd bet against Florida, but I certainly don't want to be them right now.
 
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