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(NESN)   If you disagree with how the soccer referee is keeping time, urge your captain to talk to him about being more mindful of the clock. Don't, however, run up to him and scissor kick him in the chest like Brazil's Johnny Dos Santos did   (nesn.com) divider line 39
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2013-03-24 09:22:20 PM
...and that was the last professional game he ever played.
 
2013-03-24 09:42:26 PM
Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.
 
2013-03-25 12:08:22 AM
Yeah, that's the kind of thing that lifetime bans get handed out over. Bye bye.
 
2013-03-25 12:10:29 AM
Sometimes during stoppage time, even more additional time is added. For example, in a heated game, there could be an altercation which requires several bookings for misconduct. There could be a legitimate injury. Or there could be flopping and simulation of an injury which can be factored in too.
 
2013-03-25 12:11:42 AM
Nevermind a lifetime ban, he should go to prison for that.
 
2013-03-25 12:12:17 AM

jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me. Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?


Keeps the game moving. You see what kind of time-based shenanigans happen in football and basketball.
 
2013-03-25 12:31:29 AM
Nice telephoto view.  Why is there only 1 camera view?  C'mon soccer.  We got 10 cameras for college volleyball games. Without closeups, it just looks like Kung Fu master on Nintendo.
 
2013-03-25 12:45:31 AM

jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.


Stoppage time is at the referee's discretion. There are some general guidelines about adding on time for goals, set pieces, injuries and disciplinary actions depending on the number of each in the half but there is no exact mechanism to determine. There have been many occasions in which fans and players have been angry at not being given enough time when losing or drawn or the referee helping the opposition by giving too much time when they are winning.

I don't know exactly why it is done this way instead of stopping and starting the clock, but I would guess that the rules are kept that way to keep the minimal cost down. There are plenty of teams with very little money that play in low leagues, amateur leagues and in very poor countries where the need to buy any extra equipment would be prohibitive. That is the reason why technology to detect when the ball crosses the goal line and to provide instant video replay to the referee hasn't been implemented.
 
2013-03-25 12:48:08 AM

had98c: Nevermind a lifetime ban, he should go to prison for that.


FTFA:  He might be involved in legal proceedings, as police lead him from the field after the incident.

andychrist420: Why is there only 1 camera view?  C'mon soccer.  We got 10 cameras for college volleyball games.


Camera angles notwithstanding, which would you rather watch, guys playing soccer or college chicks playing volleyball? Think about which you'd rather watch and why, and you'll understand why there are more cameras in volleyball than soccer.
 
2013-03-25 01:01:18 AM

jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.


Let's put it this way: considering soccer's history of flopping and such, a team would turn the final 5 minutes of a match into something like the last 2 minutes of a basketball game, except much longer. Stoppage time helps prevent time wasting like that.

/Doesn't completely prevent it
//But it helps
 
2013-03-25 01:08:10 AM
FINISH HIM!
 
2013-03-25 01:08:43 AM
Read that as Junior Dos Santos, mind blown for a few seconds.
 
2013-03-25 01:12:53 AM
That player should be executed for assaulting a game official.  Worthless scum.
 
2013-03-25 01:17:30 AM

Koman Coulibaly: That player should be executed for assaulting a game official.  Worthless scum.


Yes, he should be hung, castrated, force fed molten lead, disemboweled, drawn and quartered and buried in four different continents. The integrity of the beautiful game deserves no less.
 
2013-03-25 01:19:17 AM

Koman Coulibaly: That player should be executed for assaulting a game official. Worthless scum.


hey it's everyone's favorite referee
 
2013-03-25 01:20:14 AM

andychrist420: Why is there only 1 camera view?


because this was basically a minor league game not a top tier game.
 
2013-03-25 01:37:19 AM

andychrist420: Nice telephoto view.  Why is there only 1 camera view?  C'mon soccer.  We got 10 cameras for college volleyball games. Without closeups, it just looks like Kung Fu master on Nintendo.


Kung Fu master on Nintendo was better...
 
2013-03-25 02:44:48 AM
I was watching a soccer game and Mortal Kombat broke out. Fatality.
 
2013-03-25 02:47:58 AM

King Something: had98c: Nevermind a lifetime ban, he should go to prison for that.

FTFA:  He might be involved in legal proceedings, as police lead him from the field after the incident.

andychrist420: Why is there only 1 camera view?  C'mon soccer.  We got 10 cameras for college volleyball games.

Camera angles notwithstanding, which would you rather watch, guys playing soccer or college chicks playing volleyball? Think about which you'd rather watch and why, and you'll understand why there are more cameras in volleyball than soccer.


Good point sir.  I stand corrected.
 
2013-03-25 03:28:03 AM

Allen262: andychrist420: Nice telephoto view.  Why is there only 1 camera view?  C'mon soccer.  We got 10 cameras for college volleyball games. Without closeups, it just looks like Kung Fu master on Nintendo.

Kung Fu master on Nintendo was better...


Snakes and wasps would make things much more interesting.
 
2013-03-25 07:19:51 AM

jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.


Its not bizarre at all. The ref is the sole arbiter of the game time and stops the clock when it should be stopped and this is true from the final of the World Cup to the Sunday pub leagues. Its no more strange than stopping the clock with two minutes to go just so the TV networks can shove yet another ad break into the game.
 
2013-03-25 07:51:34 AM

Gosling: Keeps the game moving. You see what kind of time-based shenanigans happen in football and basketball.


There's no reason for it, you can keep the game exactly the same.

In the NBA, the refs have transmitters that start and stop the clock.  The ref can have that and stop the official clock whenever he feels he needs to.  Now every half ends a 45 exactly and play is not affected.
 
2013-03-25 09:19:20 AM
Arrest him and charge him and imprison him.
 
2013-03-25 09:33:08 AM
FTA: Dos Santos walked up to the official and, without warning, landed a karate kick to his shoulder.

Would it be okay if he warned him?
 
2013-03-25 09:33:18 AM

jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.


Nah, it's more a way of allowing another point of entry for corruption into the "Beautiful" game. Team A needs to win, but they're down by a goal at the 89th minute? Add 5 minutes to the game. Team A needs to win, they're up by a goal in the 89th minute? Add 2 minutes of stopping time, even though a player from Team A had to be carted off of the field. Ref's discretion in both cases, and it is neither reviewable or appealable,

Seriously, we may biatch and moan about the NCAA, but the NCAA is a squeaky clean pristine choirboy compared to a large number of professional soccer leagues.

/Beautiful game is an apt moniker - the Beautiful game gets as much metaphorical photoshop as any model's photo for a magazine
 
2013-03-25 10:15:44 AM
If there's any official that deserves to be kicked in the face now and again, it's a South American futbol referee, the way they cannot differentiate between diving and legit injuries. Their respectability rating is slightly above a WWE ref.

/yeah yeah it's still real to me shut the fark up I'm trying to make a point here
 
2013-03-25 11:20:26 AM
That wasn't a scissor kick.
 
2013-03-25 11:52:43 AM
Will they make a statue of the kick?
 
2013-03-25 12:22:32 PM

Techhell: jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.

Nah, it's more a way of allowing another point of entry for corruption into the "Beautiful" game. Team A needs to win, but they're down by a goal at the 89th minute? Add 5 minutes to the game. Team A needs to win, they're up by a goal in the 89th minute? Add 2 minutes of stopping time, even though a player from Team A had to be carted off of the field. Ref's discretion in both cases, and it is neither reviewable or appealable,

Seriously, we may biatch and moan about the NCAA, but the NCAA is a squeaky clean pristine choirboy compared to a large number of professional soccer leagues.

/Beautiful game is an apt moniker - the Beautiful game gets as much metaphorical photoshop as any model's photo for a magazine


I don't mean to rain on your parade but the NCAA is just as corrupt as football is. Just a quick google search shows this.
 
2013-03-25 12:42:21 PM
I can think of a Brazillian reasons he should not have done that.
 
2013-03-25 12:49:11 PM

Norfolking Chance: Just a quick google search shows this.


If you're going to post google searches, you might at least spell the search term properly.
 
2013-03-25 12:51:53 PM

jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.


This, this a thousand times this.

I have a 6 point plan for making soccer more palatable to Americans, and the odd time keeping is #4 on the list.

Everyone looking around, wondering if the game is over is NOT good in any situation.
 
2013-03-25 01:05:19 PM

havocmike: I have a 6 point plan for making soccer more palatable to Americans, and the odd time keeping is #4 on the list.


There's no reason to change the game to make it more palatable to Americans.

The time-keeping issue is just stupid and has no basis in reality.

Maybe it made sense 50 years ago, but the refs have wireless headsets.  They could be in constant contract with an official time keeper to tell him to stop the clock, run the clock, stop the clock, etc
 
2013-03-25 01:46:55 PM

MugzyBrown: havocmike: I have a 6 point plan for making soccer more palatable to Americans, and the odd time keeping is #4 on the list.

There's no reason to change the game to make it more palatable to Americans.


Well, with that attitude....

No, I'm not talking about changing it in Europe, where they're clearly threatened by the smallest change to their game. I'm talking about making it an entirely new sport. It'd be quite similar to indoor arena soccer, actually
 
2013-03-25 03:23:36 PM

Norfolking Chance: I don't mean to rain on your parade but the NCAA is just as corrupt as football is. Just a quick google search shows this.


The corruption in the NCAA does not affect the games themselves, just how the money made from the games is divvied up in unfair ways.
It's legal, as opposed to the bribery and fixing scandals that have shown up in futbol forever.
 
2013-03-25 09:23:27 PM

havocmike: jake_lex: Having not grown up watching soccer, the bizarre way that the actual time left in a half is a mystery to me.  Yeah, I know that they do announce how much stoppage time is going to be added, but why doesn't the ref actually just let everyone know he's stopping the clock for some reason, and stop the clock in the stadium as well, so everyone knows exactly how much time is left?

I guess that's one of those things that Europeans use to try to feel smug and superior about liking "real" football ("Bloody stupid yanks need to be told how long it is until they can drink more of their shiate beer") between screaming racist epithets at opposing players and having riots.

This, this a thousand times this.

I have a 6 point plan for making soccer more palatable to Americans, and the odd time keeping is #4 on the list.

Everyone looking around, wondering if the game is over is NOT good in any situation.


"Everyone looking around, wondering if the game is over " literally never happens. Its not a mystery, its not in any way confusing, and nobody wants it to change except Americans who have a problem with anything that doesn't follow their American sports idiosyncracies.

Also your brilliant  "6 point plan" will remain irrelevant as long as soccer maintains is position as by far the most successful professional sport in existence.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-25 09:26:09 PM

had98c: Nevermind a lifetime ban, he should go to prison for that.


Pretty sure he will be charged criminally for assault.
 
2013-03-26 02:41:41 PM

havocmike: No, I'm not talking about changing it in Europe, where they're clearly threatened by the smallest change to their game. I'm talking about making it an entirely new sport. It'd be quite similar to indoor arena soccer, actually


Arena soccer is not a sport.
 
2013-03-26 09:36:53 PM
So we getting a MEX v USA thread or not? i submitted 2 threads
 
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