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2013-03-24 08:12:28 PM

diaphoresis: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

The most bigoted and racist people I've ever experienced was in Michigan... not even kidding... holy crap.


I've found New Jersey is a scary place for racists, mainly because people don't even try to hide it.

Granted, I live in Richmond, VA and there are crazy amounts of racists here, but they attempt to hide it behind some kind of code.  My racist neighbor (he's 82) went to The Citadel graduation last year and he was complaining that half the class "didn't even look American" (read: minority).  A racist from Jersey would be like "did you see how many n*****s and chinks they had at that graduation?"
 
2013-03-24 08:14:43 PM

dickfreckle: Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts

That doesn't mean you get to make assumptions. The day they build a black Terminator whose only directive is to wreak havoc, sure, you can profile. Until then, no. JoeBob the Yellow-Tooth Mullet doesn't get profiled on a hot Alabama Saturday night, so what's the difference here?

Oh, and being a Southerner (well, a New Orleanian, which really isn't the South but still...) I'm always irritated at the idea that it's only we retards capable of repugnant cultural behavior. I've lived all around the country for at least brief periods, and this sh*t is everywhere. So to all of you in California and New York - perhaps it's time to stop sniffing your own farts.


That's exactly what it means.  With limited resources, doesn't it make sense to direct them where they are most likely to garner results?  Or should they equally focus on girl scouts because fairness?
 
2013-03-24 08:15:01 PM

Godscrack: Right wing racist cops? That almost never happens

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Pictures of Klansmen? Just in case you forgot, the KKK was a wing of the Democrat party.
 
2013-03-24 08:16:50 PM

Elegy: diaphoresis: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

The most bigoted and racist people I've ever experienced was in Michigan... not even kidding... holy crap.

Seriously. I would much, much rather be a black person arrested in Podunk, Mississippi than any farking state in the north east.


PA leads it IMHO.

Lsherm: diaphoresis: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

The most bigoted and racist people I've ever experienced was in Michigan... not even kidding... holy crap.

I've found New Jersey is a scary place for racists, mainly because people don't even try to hide it.

Granted, I live in Richmond, VA and there are crazy amounts of racists here, but they attempt to hide it behind some kind of code.  My racist neighbor (he's 82) went to The Citadel graduation last year and he was complaining that half the class "didn't even look American" (read: minority).  A racist from Jersey would be like "did you see how many n*****s and chinks they had at that graduation?"


Southerners have better manners and pride themselves on social graces.
 
2013-03-24 08:17:15 PM

redmid17: I was just bringing up a point someone else brought up to you that you neglected to address. The per 100K also doesn't adjust for the percentage of population, but I'm sure you know that.


...what? Farking numbers, how do they work?
 
Slu
2013-03-24 08:19:06 PM

mjbok: If this happened in the "backwards" fly-over states it would forever be a talking point of how backwards areas not on the coasts are.  If it happened in the South...same thing:  "see how messed up the south is, why can't it be like New York."  Since it happened in the the capital of understanding and forward thinking it is relegated to "meh" status for some reason.


Not sure a federal lawsuit qualifies as meh status, but whatever.

Also, way to derail the thread. This thread should be about hating cops, which is something everyone in all parts of the country can agree on.
 
2013-03-24 08:20:47 PM
The racist in me wants to say this is awesome.  The cop hater in me, wants the cop to be fired for being racist.  I am so confused.
 
2013-03-24 08:22:18 PM

Silly Jesus: dickfreckle: Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts

That doesn't mean you get to make assumptions. The day they build a black Terminator whose only directive is to wreak havoc, sure, you can profile. Until then, no. JoeBob the Yellow-Tooth Mullet doesn't get profiled on a hot Alabama Saturday night, so what's the difference here?

Oh, and being a Southerner (well, a New Orleanian, which really isn't the South but still...) I'm always irritated at the idea that it's only we retards capable of repugnant cultural behavior. I've lived all around the country for at least brief periods, and this sh*t is everywhere. So to all of you in California and New York - perhaps it's time to stop sniffing your own farts.

That's exactly what it means.  With limited resources, doesn't it make sense to direct them where they are most likely to garner results?  Or should they equally focus on girl scouts because fairness?

Silly Jesus: dickfreckle: Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts

That doesn't mean you get to make assumptions. The day they build a black Terminator whose only directive is to wreak havoc, sure, you can profile. Until then, no. JoeBob the Yellow-Tooth Mullet doesn't get profiled on a hot Alabama Saturday night, so what's the difference here?

Oh, and being a Southerner (well, a New Orleanian, which really isn't the South but still...) I'm always irritated at the idea that it's only we retards capable of repugnant cultural behavior. I've lived all around the country for at least brief periods, and this sh*t is everywhere. So to all of you in California and New York - perhaps it's time to stop sniffing your own farts.

That's exactly what it means.  With limited resources, doesn't it make sense to direct them where they are most likely to garner results?  Or should they equally focus on girl scouts because fairness?


So they should concentrate their efforts on males, 15-35 years? OK by me. Any individuals in that group have to give up their presumption of equal treatment under the law - it's their fault for belonging to a group of criminals.
 
2013-03-24 08:24:45 PM
The triangles are coming next.
 
2013-03-24 08:24:46 PM
I've not lived in the South, so I have no clue how it compares, but my suspicion is that while overt racism may be worse in some areas of the country, institutional racism occupies a pretty narrow spectrum (e.g. somewhere between pretty bad and really bad, rather than between not too bad and apartheid) wherever it exists.
 
2013-03-24 08:25:59 PM

jso2897: Silly Jesus: dickfreckle: Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts

That doesn't mean you get to make assumptions. The day they build a black Terminator whose only directive is to wreak havoc, sure, you can profile. Until then, no. JoeBob the Yellow-Tooth Mullet doesn't get profiled on a hot Alabama Saturday night, so what's the difference here?

Oh, and being a Southerner (well, a New Orleanian, which really isn't the South but still...) I'm always irritated at the idea that it's only we retards capable of repugnant cultural behavior. I've lived all around the country for at least brief periods, and this sh*t is everywhere. So to all of you in California and New York - perhaps it's time to stop sniffing your own farts.

That's exactly what it means.  With limited resources, doesn't it make sense to direct them where they are most likely to garner results?  Or should they equally focus on girl scouts because fairness?
Silly Jesus: dickfreckle: Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts

That doesn't mean you get to make assumptions. The day they build a black Terminator whose only directive is to wreak havoc, sure, you can profile. Until then, no. JoeBob the Yellow-Tooth Mullet doesn't get profiled on a hot Alabama Saturday night, so what's the difference here?

Oh, and being a Southerner (well, a New Orleanian, which really isn't the South but still...) I'm always irritated at the idea that it's only we retards capable of repugnant cultural behavior. I've lived all around the country for at least brief periods, and this sh*t is everywhere. So to all of you in California and New York - perhaps it's time to stop sniffing your own farts.

That's exactly what it means.  With limited resources, doesn't it make sense to direct them where they are most likely to garner results?  Or should they equally focus on girl sco ...


Um, ok.

Farkied:  Potato
 
2013-03-24 08:26:09 PM

Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts


If you arrested 40 retired white women and 10 black men, the mugshot roundup would be 80% white. What exactly was YOUR point? Police arrest who they want to arrest.
 
2013-03-24 08:26:49 PM

The Angry Hand of God: The racist in me wants to say this is awesome.  The cop hater in me, wants the cop to be fired for being racist.  I am so confused.


Turn on America's funniest Home Videos, and try not to think. You'll only hurt yourself, anyway.
 
2013-03-24 08:28:22 PM

Silly Jesus: Um, ok.

Farkied: Potato


Well, you certainly told ME, didn't you? :D
 
2013-03-24 08:28:33 PM

Elegy: Boy I'm glad you asked. By "institutional racism" I specifically mean the disparity in sentencing between whites and other ethnicities, per unit of population.


So the people who commit the crimes are the ones going to jail? Thanks for clarifying that.
 
2013-03-24 08:29:45 PM

Another Government Employee: The triangles are coming next.


Pyramids boy... pyramids
 
2013-03-24 08:31:51 PM
There is pie chart out there that proves this.  o_o
 
2013-03-24 08:31:56 PM

redmid17: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

Normalize how? The report I cited relie on ratios of convictions per 100,000 population.

If you're talking about more esoteric statistical manipulation, that doesn't help either, at least for the Midwest.

And lastly, if you have better data than the multiple well-sourced reports, maps, and articles that I am linking to, whip it out and show me, big boy.

I was just bringing up a point someone else brought up to you that you neglected to address. The per 100K also doesn't adjust for the percentage of population, but I'm sure you know that.


If you look at footnote 9 in the original prison policy report, it cites official us government statistics Prison and Jail Inmates at mid year 2005.

Specifically, it cites the table on page 11, which states that the statistics presented in that tar are:
Based on intercensal estimates of each State's resident population (by race and Hispanic origin) for July 1, 2004, and then adjusted to the State resident totals for July 1, 2005.

Uh oh, what now?
 
2013-03-24 08:32:08 PM

Acharne: Pick: To be fair most of the people in the Sheriff's "Mugshot Roundup" tend to be.....well, you know.

/ facts is facts

If you arrested 40 retired white women and 10 black men, the mugshot roundup would be 80% white. What exactly was YOUR point? Police arrest who they want to arrest.


Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?
 
2013-03-24 08:32:54 PM
Farkers, please...
 
2013-03-24 08:33:13 PM

jso2897: Silly Jesus: Um, ok.

Farkied: Potato

Well, you certainly told ME, didn't you? :D


Booyah!
 
2013-03-24 08:34:13 PM
1 out of every 4 people who smoke will develop either cardio-pulmonary problems or cancer attributable to smoking.  So society works at a multitude of levels to get people to stop smoking.

About 1 out of every 4 black men is either in prison or probation.  Sucks to be them.

Statistically, children raised by a single parent is 60% more likely to criminally offend.  The black illegitimacy rate is about 70%.
 
2013-03-24 08:35:59 PM
Anyone suggest that maybe the black kids should stop committing crimes yet?
 
2013-03-24 08:38:20 PM

Yogimus: Anyone suggest that maybe the black kids should stop committing crimes yet?


You're the first! Congratulations!
 
2013-03-24 08:39:17 PM

Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

Normalize how? The report I cited relie on ratios of convictions per 100,000 population.

If you're talking about more esoteric statistical manipulation, that doesn't help either, at least for the Midwest.

And lastly, if you have better data than the multiple well-sourced reports, maps, and articles that I am linking to, whip it out and show me, big boy.

I was just bringing up a point someone else brought up to you that you neglected to address. The per 100K also doesn't adjust for the percentage of population, but I'm sure you know that.

If you look at footnote 9 in the original prison policy report, it cites official us government statistics Prison and Jail Inmates at mid year 2005.

Specifically, it cites the table on page 11, which states that the statistics presented in that tar are:
Based on intercensal estimates of each State's resident population (by race and Hispanic origin) for July 1, 2004, and then adjusted to the State resident totals for July 1, 2005.

Uh oh, what now?


I like mashed potatoes with gravy. How about you?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-24 08:39:53 PM

Snarfangel: Too bad his supervisor didn't have a physics degree. He could have started with "Assume a spherical criminal..."


HAHAHAHA, that really is funny.
/shakes-tiny-fist-at-math-major
 
2013-03-24 08:40:08 PM

Yogimus: Anyone suggest that maybe the black kids should stop committing crimes yet?


Shhhh!
 
2013-03-24 08:40:28 PM

AbbeySomeone: Southerners have better manners and pride themselves on social graces.


That is a pretty accurate assessment of what is going on.  I'm in an extremely rural area, but my neighbors at the farm across the street are incredibly racist, primarily because they're both over 80 years old.  My wife and I are friendly with an African American family that lives on 10 acres down the road, and they refer to our racist neighbors as people "with the old way of thinking."  People don't call each other racist down here even if they ARE racist.

Fun fact about the AA family - the 10 acres were purchased pre-Civil War by their family after their slave ancestors were granted freedom from a plantation in North Carolina by their owner.  They paid for the land by agreeing to work the neighboring farm that surrounds it for 30 years.  The war cut that promise short by 10 years, but they held onto the land afterwards and now they have 4 generations of family living on it in some capacity.  They also have one of the most indecipherable Southern Virginia accents I've ever come across.
 
2013-03-24 08:40:29 PM

ginkor: Statistically, children raised by a single parent is 60% more likely to criminally offend.  The black illegitimacy rate is about 70%.


Let me guess, white America's fault?
 
2013-03-24 08:41:21 PM

BSABSVR: Smells like VDare in here.



Every day, all day. I'm so used to racist Farkers, I'm actually getting a kick out of these replies, if for no other reason to remind me how ignorant and racist people can be, even when they think they're being intelligent and reasonable.
 
2013-03-24 08:41:30 PM
 For more on all this, the Daily News has a giant photo of the type of audio recorder Serrano used.

I lol'd
 
2013-03-24 08:43:00 PM

Hermione_Granger: BSABSVR: Smells like VDare in here.


Every day, all day. I'm so used to racist Farkers, I'm actually getting a kick out of these replies, if for no other reason to remind me how ignorant and racist people can be, even when they think they're being intelligent and reasonable.


Perhaps you can explain how statistics are racist.  Nobody else seems to be able to, they just name call.
 
2013-03-24 08:44:31 PM

redmid17: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

Normalize how? The report I cited relie on ratios of convictions per 100,000 population.

If you're talking about more esoteric statistical manipulation, that doesn't help either, at least for the Midwest.

And lastly, if you have better data than the multiple well-sourced reports, maps, and articles that I am linking to, whip it out and show me, big boy.

I was just bringing up a point someone else brought up to you that you neglected to address. The per 100K also doesn't adjust for the percentage of population, but I'm sure you know that.

If you look at footnote 9 in the original prison policy report, it cites official us government statistics Prison and Jail Inmates at mid year 2005.

Specifically, it cites the table on page 11, which states that the statistics presented in that tar are:
Based on intercensal estimates of each State's resident population (by race and Hispanic origin) for July 1, 2004, and then adjusted to the State resident totals for July 1, 2005.

Uh oh, what now?

I like mashed potatoes with gravy. How about you?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-24 08:45:02 PM

Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?


Dude, I consider myself a conservative and I have yet to see a goddamn banker frog-marched into jail for wrecking the whole worldwide economy.

There is a good argument to be made that minorities are disproportionately arrested not because they aren't committing crimes, but because we tend to dedicate the most police resources to problem areas, and those areas are disproportionately populated with minorities.

Think about the number of white people you know who smoke pot.  There's probably a close to zero chance they are ever going to be arrested for it.  It's a real risk if you're a young black male, however  because the cops are around watching for it.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-24 08:46:09 PM

hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

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Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.


Apparently he never heard of the origins of the 'good old boy' network.

/hint: it sure didnt start north of the mason-dixon...y'all
 
2013-03-24 08:47:25 PM

redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.


For all your whining, you sure haven't provided any counter evidence. S hocking.
 
2013-03-24 08:48:44 PM

Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

Normalize how? The report I cited relie on ratios of convictions per 100,000 population.

If you're talking about more esoteric statistical manipulation, that doesn't help either, at least for the Midwest.

And lastly, if you have better data than the multiple well-sourced reports, maps, and articles that I am linking to, whip it out and show me, big boy.


You should show him the educational breakdown by race and how minorities in the North fare worse than the South/West in general.  He'll have excuses for that as well.
 
2013-03-24 08:50:26 PM

Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?


I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.
 
2013-03-24 08:50:48 PM

MyRandomName: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

For all your whining, you sure haven't provided any counter evidence. S hocking.


All my whining? one post?

/go fark a prickly boar mouth
 
2013-03-24 08:51:12 PM

Hermione_Granger: BSABSVR: Smells like VDare in here.


Every day, all day. I'm so used to racist Farkers, I'm actually getting a kick out of these replies, if for no other reason to remind me how ignorant and racist people can be, even when they think they're being intelligent and reasonable.


Oh lighten up!  Would you rather that they be serial killers?
 
2013-03-24 08:52:35 PM

Lsherm: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

Dude, I consider myself a conservative and I have yet to see a goddamn banker frog-marched into jail for wrecking the whole worldwide economy.

White collar crime can't really compare to this topic.  Those are much more complex cases with greater legal hurdles and has much more to do with money and power than race...if it has anything to do with race at all, which I doubt.

There is a good argument to be made that minorities are disproportionately arrested not because they aren't committing crimes, but because we tend to dedicate the most police resources to problem areas, and those areas are disproportionately populated with minorities.
You answered your own question...the cops are in the problem areas because they are problem areas...as in criminal areas.
Think about the number of white people you know who smoke pot.  There's probably a close to zero chance they are ever going to be arrested for it.  It's a real risk if you're a young black male, however  because the cops are around watching for it.
The white kids that I know/knew who smoke pot did it in their frat house etc.  The black folks who get caught smoking pot that I read about in the paper tend to do it while driving around in a car with no taillights and an expired tag or while standing on a street corner.  So, yeah, I guess it's racist that there are more cops driving down the street or walking the sidewalk than sitting in a private residence.
 
2013-03-24 08:52:45 PM

MyRandomName: Elegy: redmid17: Elegy: hardinparamedic: Elegy: Fact: Institutional racism is much worse in the North than it is in the south.

Please tell us more about this "fact". Because I kinda live in that area where it's "not as bad", and if you think that, you've never met a small town cop.

Look at the thread again. I provided not one but two different sources upthread. Both of those sources provide their own sources. Sorry your personal experience differs, something something anectdotal not statistics etcetera.

You also didn't normalize any of the statistics presented so not really.

Normalize how? The report I cited relie on ratios of convictions per 100,000 population.

If you're talking about more esoteric statistical manipulation, that doesn't help either, at least for the Midwest.

And lastly, if you have better data than the multiple well-sourced reports, maps, and articles that I am linking to, whip it out and show me, big boy.

You should show him the educational breakdown by race and how minorities in the North fare worse than the South/West in general.  He'll have excuses for that as well.


Probably not. There is a lot of cultural effect as well.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-24 08:56:13 PM

FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.


Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.
 
2013-03-24 08:58:12 PM

gja: FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.

Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.


Waaah I don't like the law so people should be allowed to break it.
 
2013-03-24 08:58:17 PM

gja: FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.

Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.


I'd go out on a limb and say he's probably not someone I'd smoke a joint with*

*if I smoked

non violent drug crimes are not a good idea
 
2013-03-24 08:58:23 PM

andrewagill: Looks like this is related to the Schoolcraft case.

This American Life had a great story on Schoolcraft a while back.

Schoolcraft was forced out of the NYPD for exposing the unjustifiable stop and frisks. And then they threw in him a mental ward to make everyone think he was crazy. What did he do that made people say he was crazy? Well, he recorded that, too. At about 44:30 on the link above.


That is terrifying. Thanks for the link.
 
2013-03-24 09:00:38 PM

Yogimus: gja: FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.

Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.

Waaah I don't like the law so people should be allowed to break it.


Would love to hear your opinion on the right to assemble peacefully in Selma in 1965.
 
2013-03-24 09:02:18 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: Wait we found the one good cop who refuses to violate civil rights and records his supervisor telling him to do just that?

Dude is going to show up dead after falling down the stairs onto a knife and accidentally shooting himself 20 times.


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I think I've seen that movie.

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2013-03-24 09:03:34 PM

redmid17: Yogimus: gja: FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.

Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.

Waaah I don't like the law so people should be allowed to break it.

Would love to hear your opinion on the right to assemble peacefully in Selma in 1965.


Hi my name is apple, and while I am not an orange, per se, I would TOTALLY juice the fark out of that sexy orb.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-24 09:03:50 PM

Yogimus: gja: FARK rebel soldier: Silly Jesus: Huh?  You're really in the camp that thinks that criminals are disproportionately black because the cops just don't arrest all of the white criminals?

I don't know how big the effect is, but it happens. Whites commit more out-of-sight crimes, black people more outdoors crimes. Like the 5 or 6 people I walked past last night, smoking pot disguised as normal cigs. All black, only one woman.

Well, if you consider smoking a joint something worth of being a crime i just don't know what to say to you.
The crap that enforcement time/effort is wasted on is unreal in this country.

Waaah I don't like the law so people should be allowed to break it.


No, the laws need to change. The current law regarding pot is asinine and wasteful. It achieves little more than clogging the legal system.

By all means, let's waste a very finite resource on a containing a "problem" that returns little or no benefit to the populous at large.
I am a law-abiding person, non-smoker, drink very infrequently, etc...
But it chaffs my butt that we continue to prosecute pot use the same way we do meth and such, in many localities.
This is stupid. It is a failure.
 
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