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2013-03-24 03:24:29 PM
That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?
 
2013-03-24 03:51:35 PM

Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?


I guess a walk home isn't unreasonable.  That's the problem with squishy language.
 
2013-03-24 03:56:11 PM

EvilEgg: Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?

I guess a walk home isn't unreasonable.  That's the problem with squishy language.


A walk home to an empty house. Where'd I'd make myself something to eat and maybe wait a few hours for anyone else to get home.
 
2013-03-24 06:09:57 PM
Troll or bullshait....I can't decide.
 
2013-03-24 06:11:01 PM
So the babymomma's name is "Javascript Required"?
 
2013-03-24 06:11:21 PM
Yes, 14 years old would be silly. But this was a baby, with no means to get out of the car, roll the windows down, run or do anything to defend itself at all. And if anything, the mother was weapons grade stupid for leaving the baby in the car with that dumb ass note. Might as well just put a sign on it that says "free baby".
 
2013-03-24 06:11:35 PM

EvilEgg: Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?

I guess a walk home isn't unreasonable.  That's the problem with squishy language.


It's even squishier in most U. S. jurisdictions; no age is specified.
 
2013-03-24 06:12:45 PM

Flint Ironstag: EvilEgg: Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?

I guess a walk home isn't unreasonable.  That's the problem with squishy language.

A walk home to an empty house. Where'd I'd make myself something to eat and maybe wait a few hours for anyone else to get home.


Maybe NZ would consider that reasonable.
 
2013-03-24 06:13:50 PM
Any baby that can write this note all by themselves should be able to look after themselves while the mom is doing a little shopping/drinking/hooking whatever.
 
2013-03-24 06:16:16 PM
I say we shoot her.
 
2013-03-24 06:17:26 PM
Well, it 10 yrs, the law will be "you can't leave a child alone for more than 30 secs or you get fined $10,000. This applies to all children under 26.
 
2013-03-24 06:19:00 PM

Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?


uphill both ways in the snow?
 
2013-03-24 06:19:47 PM

diaphoresis: Well, it 10 yrs, the law will be "you can't leave a child alone for more than 30 secs or you get fined $10,000. This applies to all children under 26.


No, that's ObamaCare.
 
2013-03-24 06:23:50 PM

rkiller1: diaphoresis: Well, it 10 yrs, the law will be "you can't leave a child alone for more than 30 secs or you get fined $10,000. This applies to all children under 26.

No, that's ObamaCare.


Dammit.
 
2013-03-24 06:26:23 PM
How many stories have we had where parents forget they have a child in the car and leave them there for hours?  She may be a complete idiot for writing this note, but at least this woman realized she brought the kid with her.
 
2013-03-24 06:26:42 PM
Don't cut the umbilical cord until adulthood.
 
2013-03-24 06:29:45 PM
"Protip" Do not type headlines while having a seizure.
 
2013-03-24 06:29:47 PM

proteon: I say we shoot her.


Well -I- say make her President.

/Then shoot her.
//Viva la revolucion!
 
2013-03-24 06:30:02 PM
You know, it may be easier to go shopping without the kids in the store... but if that's what you care about in life, maybe you shouldn't have your kids any longer?

/always carting the kids around
 
2013-03-24 06:31:58 PM
Hey subby, thats a pretty crappy link that wont load unless you allow your browser to tell them where you are. Who are you, the pigs?
 
2013-03-24 06:39:46 PM

Stephen_Falken: Hey subby, thats a pretty crappy link that wont load unless you allow your browser to tell them where you are. Who are you, the pigs?


I denied location info and the page loaded fine for me.  Using Firefox.
 
2013-03-24 06:43:01 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Stephen_Falken: Hey subby, thats a pretty crappy link that wont load unless you allow your browser to tell them where you are. Who are you, the pigs?

I denied location info and the page loaded fine for me.  Using Firefox.


Same here. No problem whatsoever loading the page.
 
2013-03-24 06:44:53 PM
Kiwis are a marvelous people.  This mom trusted strangers to call her if her baby was in distress, so she left her number on a note.  She wasn't hauled off to jail, although there may be a visit from child services.  If only Americans were so sane.
 
2013-03-24 06:46:43 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Kiwis are a marvelous people.  This mom trusted strangers to call her if her baby was in distress, so she left her number on a note.  She wasn't hauled off to jail, although there may be a visit from child services.  If only Americans were so sane.


[notsureifserious.jpg]
 
2013-03-24 07:00:45 PM

skullkrusher: Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?

uphill both ways in the snow?


Damn right. And then we'd have to lick road clean with our tongue. And pay mill owner for permission to work in mill.
 
2013-03-24 07:08:25 PM

Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?


Wait, so leaving a 4 month old in a car for a few hours will only cost $2000?
 
2013-03-24 07:08:41 PM
I don't have a kid but really for a Fark story isn't that clearing the bar?
 
2013-03-24 07:10:27 PM
New Zealand you say?
Easy to defend this woman, get some bits of lint and pubic hair out the dryer trap, glue that mess on the child's feet, instant adult Hobbit and no judge in his right mind will accuse anyone of Hobbit neglect as they all know that Hobbit's thrive on being neglected and bumbling around having an awful time, it's well documented in them there 'historical documents'.
Case dismissed, move on people!
 
2013-03-24 07:13:14 PM
cdn2.hark.com
 
2013-03-24 07:15:27 PM

YoOjo: New Zealand you say?
Easy to defend this woman, get some bits of lint and pubic hair out the dryer trap, glue that mess on the child's feet, instant adult Hobbit and no judge in his right mind will accuse anyone of Hobbit neglect as they all know that Hobbit's thrive on being neglected and bumbling around having an awful time, it's well documented in them there 'historical documents'.
Case dismissed, move on people!


NEVER go full Hobbit....
 
2013-03-24 07:19:00 PM
The grocery stores back home have a little complimentary mini-daycare-thing where moms and dads who are shopping by themselves can check the kid in, leave their cellphone number and get the shopping done, albeit only in THAT store, without the kids underfoot. There are toys and books there, a nice teacher-y person to watch the kids (they usually hire college students with kid-related majors, like education and nursing, and the store chain pays for them to take a really good class in first aid and general how-to-watch-kids stuff,) and the kids usually really enjoy it.

I had occasion to meet the CEO of this grocery chain at a charity event a few years ago and mentioned how much my mother liked it when my siblings were small, basically 'thank you for adding this expensive but cool thing to your stores.'

"Oh, we're still making a fortune with that," he explained. "The reduction in shrinkage and damaged product alone was enough to pay the teacher, and we had such a pickup in business, it paid for itself in six months. And then when we added the cafe, we started having folks come from as far as 45 minutes away because they could check the children in and not only do the errands, but have a moment of peace and a coffee. Those kid-cares put all three of my sons through school."

It was an interesting perspective, and I still make a point to choose those grocery stores over their competitor because the kid-care means there are no loud or misbehaving kids.
 
2013-03-24 07:29:00 PM
ExcerpT, subby.
 
2013-03-24 07:29:21 PM
Exerp?
 
2013-03-24 07:54:47 PM

BMFPitt: Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?

Wait, so leaving a 4 month old in a car for a few hours will only cost $2000?


Worth it.
 
2013-03-24 08:00:10 PM
SpiderQueenDemon:
"Oh, we're still making a fortune with [in-store child minding],"

God, I would only shop there.  Being able to THINK for five seconds would be nice sometimes.  Also, not having someone grabbing everything within reach and throwing it out of the cart.

/father of 18-month-old

TFA: "As parents ourselves we know it is hard to get a baby to sleep, and once you start moving them they can wake up ... we thought it was just a silly decision by a tired mother."

A very silly decision, indeed, because yes, the risk is not worth it.  But it's nice that this is recognized and people aren't just quoted about how she's history's greatest monster.  I'm not going to lie, I've left our baby sleeping in the car while I went to an ATM twenty feet away. Illegal?  Probably.  I could see the car, it's not like I left a note and went to try on shoes.  But if some hardass came along and decided I was a Bad Parent, I could easily see myself getting in trouble.
 
2013-03-24 08:06:37 PM

JerkStore: Exerp?


No, ex-cerp. As in, no longer a cerp.
 
2013-03-24 08:11:43 PM

diaphoresis: BarkingUnicorn: Kiwis are a marvelous people.  This mom trusted strangers to call her if her baby was in distress, so she left her number on a note.  She wasn't hauled off to jail, although there may be a visit from child services.  If only Americans were so sane.

[notsureifserious.jpg]


Well, there are other ways to correct inappropriate behavior that causes no actual harm than simply throwing people in jail and putting kids in foster care.
 
2013-03-24 08:13:31 PM

BMFPitt: Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?

Wait, so leaving a 4 month old in a car for a few hours will only cost $2000?


Max.  A lot less if you have a good reason.
 
2013-03-24 08:14:29 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I don't have a kid but really for a Fark story isn't that clearing the bar?


No, the cops use tear gas to clear bars.
 
2013-03-24 08:16:21 PM

SpiderQueenDemon: The grocery stores back home have a little complimentary mini-daycare-thing where moms and dads who are shopping by themselves can check the kid in, leave their cellphone number and get the shopping done, albeit only in THAT store, without the kids underfoot. There are toys and books there, a nice teacher-y person to watch the kids (they usually hire college students with kid-related majors, like education and nursing, and the store chain pays for them to take a really good class in first aid and general how-to-watch-kids stuff,) and the kids usually really enjoy it.

I had occasion to meet the CEO of this grocery chain at a charity event a few years ago and mentioned how much my mother liked it when my siblings were small, basically 'thank you for adding this expensive but cool thing to your stores.'

"Oh, we're still making a fortune with that," he explained. "The reduction in shrinkage and damaged product alone was enough to pay the teacher, and we had such a pickup in business, it paid for itself in six months. And then when we added the cafe, we started having folks come from as far as 45 minutes away because they could check the children in and not only do the errands, but have a moment of peace and a coffee. Those kid-cares put all three of my sons through school."

It was an interesting perspective, and I still make a point to choose those grocery stores over their competitor because the kid-care means there are no loud or misbehaving kids.


What is the name of this paragon of corporate wisdom?
 
2013-03-24 08:32:27 PM
I'm really surpised at how calmly everyone seemed to react to it.
Sure they knew it wasn't right. But its like, well, here it is so OK. And they stood there watching the kid to make sure nothing went wrong.
And there was reasonable discusion of perhaps the mother being overwhelmed and needing help.
No Utub clips of the mom being slammed against a car and cuffed while the crowd shouted out calls for her hanging.
 
2013-03-24 08:39:06 PM
Found 2 kids both under 4 years old in the parking lot behind the courthouse when I was a prosecutor years ago.  They were locked in and crying hysterically.  Stood there with a gathering crowd for 15-20 minutes with a gathering crowd.  The "mom" finally showed up (she had been inside paying a ticket) after several more minutes.  I had the court security sheriff's deputies arrest her.  She really seemed to have no idea why.
 
2013-03-24 08:46:09 PM

No Such Agency: SpiderQueenDemon:
"Oh, we're still making a fortune with [in-store child minding],"

God, I would only shop there.  Being able to THINK for five seconds would be nice sometimes.  Also, not having someone grabbing everything within reach and throwing it out of the cart.

/father of 18-month-old

TFA: "As parents ourselves we know it is hard to get a baby to sleep, and once you start moving them they can wake up ... we thought it was just a silly decision by a tired mother."

A very silly decision, indeed, because yes, the risk is not worth it.  But it's nice that this is recognized and people aren't just quoted about how she's history's greatest monster.  I'm not going to lie, I've left our baby sleeping in the car while I went to an ATM twenty feet away. Illegal?  Probably.  I could see the car, it's not like I left a note and went to try on shoes.  But if some hardass came along and decided I was a Bad Parent, I could easily see myself getting in trouble.


Many kids were left sleeping in cars for many years and none of them died or were injured. Also, most of us grew up without seat belts or booster seats. Yes, these things really happened.
 
2013-03-24 09:25:54 PM
Excerp? I guess it means a part of a derp.
 
2013-03-24 09:27:26 PM
AbbeySomeone:
Many kids were left sleeping in cars for many years and none of them died or were injured. Also, most of us grew up without seat belts or booster seats. Yes, these things really happened.

I'm pretty sure I was driven around western Europe for a few years sitting on my mom's lap in the front seat, so yeah.
 
2013-03-24 09:29:33 PM

AbbeySomeone: No Such Agency: SpiderQueenDemon:
"Oh, we're still making a fortune with [in-store child minding],"

God, I would only shop there.  Being able to THINK for five seconds would be nice sometimes.  Also, not having someone grabbing everything within reach and throwing it out of the cart.

/father of 18-month-old

TFA: "As parents ourselves we know it is hard to get a baby to sleep, and once you start moving them they can wake up ... we thought it was just a silly decision by a tired mother."

A very silly decision, indeed, because yes, the risk is not worth it.  But it's nice that this is recognized and people aren't just quoted about how she's history's greatest monster.  I'm not going to lie, I've left our baby sleeping in the car while I went to an ATM twenty feet away. Illegal?  Probably.  I could see the car, it's not like I left a note and went to try on shoes.  But if some hardass came along and decided I was a Bad Parent, I could easily see myself getting in trouble.

Many kids were left sleeping in cars for many years and none of them died or were injured. Also, most of us grew up without seat belts or booster seats. Yes, these things really happened.


Watch out, these dimwit do-gooders may decide your common sense is a threat to their sanctimonious, pea-brained ideas of what is and what is not acceptable.
 
2013-03-24 10:10:28 PM
More stuff white people like - interfering with others. I think this is dumb but the kid isn't in imminent danger. Cops love this stuff because it makes them feel important, instead of like small-penised douchebags.

Wish I could find that picture from the 1950's that James Lileks has, showing mothers parking their strollers - with the babies in them - outside a supermarket.

I am a fan of seat belts though...
 
2013-03-24 10:13:27 PM

The Muthaship: Found 2 kids both under 4 years old in the parking lot behind the courthouse when I was a prosecutor years ago.  They were locked in and crying hysterically.  Stood there with a gathering crowd for 15-20 minutes with a gathering crowd.  The "mom" finally showed up (she had been inside paying a ticket) after several more minutes.  I had the court security sheriff's deputies arrest her.  She really seemed to have no idea why.


What happened to the kids after their mom was arrested?
 
2013-03-25 12:17:00 AM

Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?


Me too, except when I say empty, I mean empty. Parents moved to another state while I was in school and just left a little note saying "good luck, farkface".

Not a true story.
 
2013-03-25 12:17:42 AM

Flint Ironstag: That is weapons grade dumb, but this quote FTA, "A police spokesman said it was illegal for a parent or guardian to leave a child under the age of 14 alone for an unreasonable time or in unreasonable conditions. Doing so could result in a fine of up to $2000" is the real WTF?  Children under 14 can't be left alone? At nine I'd walk home a miler from school and often find an empty home.  What is wrong with these people?


More to the point, how is depriving the parent of $2000 going to improve any child's quality of life? I'm guessing if she had the money, the kid would have been left with a nanny, babysitter, or daycare.
 
2013-03-25 02:14:33 AM

Guy McRule: The Muthaship: Found 2 kids both under 4 years old in the parking lot behind the courthouse when I was a prosecutor years ago.  They were locked in and crying hysterically.  Stood there with a gathering crowd for 15-20 minutes with a gathering crowd.  The "mom" finally showed up (she had been inside paying a ticket) after several more minutes.  I had the court security sheriff's deputies arrest her.  She really seemed to have no idea why.

What happened to the kids after their mom was arrested?


Once they were old enough to drive, they were let out of the car.
 
2013-03-25 02:21:52 AM

diaphoresis: Well, it 10 yrs, the law will be "you can't leave a child alone for more than 30 secs or you get fined $10,000. This applies to all children under 26.


We'll all have actual helicopters; that way, we can be helicopter parents while piloting helicopters.

/ I want a heat vision and a loudspeaker on mine; that way, I can harangue the children from the helicopter
 
2013-03-25 02:34:19 AM

The Muthaship: Found 2 kids both under 4 years old in the parking lot behind the courthouse when I was a prosecutor years ago.  They were locked in and crying hysterically.  Stood there with a gathering crowd for 15-20 minutes with a gathering crowd.  The "mom" finally showed up (she had been inside paying a ticket) after several more minutes.  I had the court security sheriff's deputies arrest her.  She really seemed to have no idea why.


Asshole
 
2013-03-25 02:38:00 AM

TheSwissNavy: More stuff white people like - interfering with others. I think this is dumb but the kid isn't in imminent danger. Cops love this stuff because it makes them feel important, instead of like small-penised douchebags.

Wish I could find that picture from the 1950's that James Lileks has, showing mothers parking their strollers - with the babies in them - outside a supermarket.

I am a fan of seat belts though...


This still happens everyday in snowy Copenhagen. Mums believe fresh air is good for children and will bundle them up and leave them outside a coffee shop to sleep while they go inside for a bit. They get a seat by the window and keep and eye on the stroller. No stories of kidnapped children there and everyone is pretty sane, chilled out and happy
 
2013-03-25 03:08:24 AM

elleeffe: The Muthaship: Found 2 kids both under 4 years old in the parking lot behind the courthouse when I was a prosecutor years ago.  They were locked in and crying hysterically.  Stood there with a gathering crowd for 15-20 minutes with a gathering crowd.  The "mom" finally showed up (she had been inside paying a ticket) after several more minutes.  I had the court security sheriff's deputies arrest her.  She really seemed to have no idea why.

Asshole


Mom?
 
2013-03-25 09:02:44 AM
I'm unfamiliar with subby's unique punctuation style... It's not often you see a semicolon followed immediately by a comma... Most people would've used a single colon there instead of either of them...
 
2013-03-25 09:55:05 AM

Guy McRule: What happened to the kids after their mom was arrested?


They hung out in the courthouse until their grandmother came to get them.

elleeffe: Asshole


Absolutely.
 
2013-03-25 10:05:25 AM

ThighsofGlory: elleeffe: The Muthaship: Found 2 kids both under 4 years old in the parking lot behind the courthouse when I was a prosecutor years ago.  They were locked in and crying hysterically.  Stood there with a gathering crowd for 15-20 minutes with a gathering crowd.  The "mom" finally showed up (she had been inside paying a ticket) after several more minutes.  I had the court security sheriff's deputies arrest her.  She really seemed to have no idea why.

Asshole

Mom?


Yes darling! Here, hold this sign for a second...
 
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