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(Rolling Stone)   Rolling Stone has compiled the "definitive" list of the 100 best debut albums of all time, and the top ten albums alone is all the evidence anyone needs to see the magazine has lost all touch with reality   (rollingstone.com) divider line 264
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2013-03-24 08:06:00 PM
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Aargh
 
2013-03-24 08:08:32 PM
FTA: "Licensed to Ill" -  A statement so powerful, so fully-realized, that the Beastie Boys spent the rest of their careers living it down."

As a huge fan of the Beastie Boys, I'd like to point out the absurdity of this statement. An absurdity eclipsed only by the fact that someone actually paid this person to write it.
 
2013-03-24 08:09:08 PM
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alongside so many other worthy slabs o'wax.
 
2013-03-24 08:11:42 PM
Van Halen and Boston should both be top 10. Sex Pistols shouldn't be on the list - let alone top 10.
 
2013-03-24 08:11:45 PM

fusillade762: No "My Bloody Valentine"?


Glider was not the earth shatterer that Loveless was
 
2013-03-24 08:12:18 PM

babysealclubber: Spatula Porn: I was happy to see that this made the list, even if it was #99

/Gram Parsons gets this girl HOT

Me too. Except the whole being a girl and getting hot thing. I've been on a major country rock kick here lately with Gram and the Burrito Brothers, Poco, the Rolling Stones country stuff, the Byrds etc


Same here. I have never been a fan of country music, but I have fallen in love with Gram's voice and his work with the Flying Burrito Brothers and his solo work. He was just incredible!
 
2013-03-24 08:14:48 PM
Not as bad as I would have thought 7-1, but referencing "Nevermind" FOUR times and leaving it off the list seems counter-intuitive. Either it was a great debut album that set the benchmark for the others, or it wasn't. Make up your mind.
 
2013-03-24 08:14:54 PM
Why would Rubber Soul, which is a very inconsistent album rank ahead of Abbey Road, which in many ways is the Beatles best produced album? Yes, there are some great tracks on Rubber Soul, most notably Norwegian Wood. But it also features The Word and Run For Your Life, two songs that John Lennon himself admitted were shiat.
 
2013-03-24 08:16:15 PM

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alongside so many other worthy slabs o'wax.


Elastica was so cool they debuted twice?
 
2013-03-24 08:16:17 PM
Oops, disregard previous comment. I was looking at the wrong list.
 
2013-03-24 08:21:14 PM
Black Sabbath at #44? If one album should have been in the top ten it is that one. It's influence is still heard forty years after it's debut.
 
2013-03-24 08:22:23 PM

italie: Not as bad as I would have thought 7-1, but referencing "Nevermind" FOUR times and leaving it off the list seems counter-intuitive. Either it was a great debut album that set the benchmark for the others, or it wasn't. Make up your mind.


But for one tiny detail: Bleach was Nirvana's debut album.

Just as Catch a Fire wasn't the Wailers' debut album. Chalk it up to an embarrassing bout of cranial flatulence. If I could, I'd replace it with:

tralfaz-archives.com
 
2013-03-24 08:24:08 PM
why do people feel the need to post the picture rather than just say it?  That goes for beer threads too.
 
2013-03-24 08:26:26 PM

italie: Elastica was so cool they debuted twice?


the saddest part is that I'm stone-cold sober.

I did have a not-horrible reason though. Alas, it plays better in reality than it reads in text.
 
2013-03-24 08:36:26 PM

AzDownboy: fusillade762: No "My Bloody Valentine"?

Glider was not the earth shatterer that Loveless was


Ah, my bad. For some reason I thought Loveless was their first album.


italie: Elastica was so cool they debuted twice?


He really likes Elastica.
 
2013-03-24 08:37:41 PM

fusillade762: He really likes Elastica.


Yup. That as well.
 
2013-03-24 08:41:02 PM
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2013-03-24 08:46:13 PM

Paleorific: Top ten are all worthy.  If you are not familiar with those albums... sorry.  My fave of the top 10 is Horses. Not only in my top ten debut albums but I would put Gloria in the top ten of Debut songs on debut albums.  Least favorite of thir top 10 would be GnR.


Then you hate blues rock, GnR's debut is one of the greatest albums of all time, beginning to end its one of the few albums you don't skip any track. There are better albums than kanyes and a few others in the top 10, they just put them there to placate the rap crowd.
 
2013-03-24 08:48:56 PM
How could they even attempt a list like this without including Millions of Dead Cops?
 
2013-03-24 08:52:06 PM

W.C.fields forever: babysealclubber: 

 the Rolling Stones country stuff,

Sittin' in a bar,tippling a jar in Jackson,
And on the street the summer sun it shines.

/Love that RS country stuff
//Got to scrap that sh*t right off my shooooes



Thank ya Jesus. Thank ya lord
 
2013-03-24 08:52:10 PM

Sinbox: But for one tiny detail: Bleach was Nirvana's debut album.


Huh...I always thought Bleach was released a year or two later. It appears I stand corrected.

//List is still mostly crap...
 
2013-03-24 09:02:49 PM
If you stated hip hop shouldn't even be on this list, you need to log off, and go drink your Ensure in time for CSI.

/Not even a hip hop fan
//But hip hop has had a HUGE impact on the last 30 years
 
2013-03-24 09:04:20 PM
Wait.  No  Bad Company???? What kind of farktardery is this??

I'm okay with the rap, but why must everyone in the music establishment have such an absolute hard-on for The Strokes?  They were just absolutely horrible, proto-hipster dreck.  And I'm sorry, but any album younger than 10 does not belong on a "greatest of all time" list, even if it is the most overrated music magazine of the past fifteen years (and I'm being polite with that figure).
 
2013-03-24 09:09:26 PM

FriarReb98: Wait.  No  Bad Company???? What kind of farktardery is this??

I'm okay with the rap, but why must everyone in the music establishment have such an absolute hard-on for The Strokes?  They were just absolutely horrible, proto-hipster dreck.  And I'm sorry, but any album younger than 10 does not belong on a "greatest of all time" list, even if it is the most overrated music magazine of the past fifteen years (and I'm being polite with that figure).


Grantland had a series of articles called "The Winners' Circle of Rock n Roll," and in one of them, the writer had a great point. Rock history is written by the losers. It's written by the people who love bands only other critics love, and because critics write all the histories, then all those critical favorites whose albums cratered or stunted upon their sophomore effort get elevated to godhood. They skew history and make you think that Elvis Costello, for instance, was just as popular and longer-lasting than Journey, even though based on numbers alone, Journey blew Costello right out of the water. That doesn't mean Elvis Costello sucks, mind you; it means that rock critics like Journey much less than him, and use their forum to make Costello seem like he's bigger than he ever really was.

The Strokes are now that critical favorite being elevated far beyond what they really were 10 years ago.
 
2013-03-24 09:10:42 PM
List fails without inclusion of Chicago Transit Authority.
 
2013-03-24 09:13:23 PM
I knew "Appetite" would be on there, though I didn't think it would be as high as number 4. I still think the best song from that album is "Rocket Queen". It's like two songs in one.
 
2013-03-24 09:18:29 PM
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2013-03-24 09:21:04 PM

gardigga: L.D. Ablo: Lorelle: Subby is correct. Hendrix should have been #1, and the rap shiat doesn't even belong on the list.

Well, yes.

I might take rap seriously if they started writing their own hooks and playing instruments.

Like my band does?
Animal Nation -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlW55-o5fH0


Wow. I feel like I'm back in 1998 again. That's not a good thing.
 
2013-03-24 09:29:48 PM
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Ohio represent
 
2013-03-24 09:38:54 PM

fusillade762: Next issue: the 500 best sophomore albums of all time!

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#1 should be easy enough...
 
2013-03-24 09:45:32 PM

Summoner101: Missing:

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Like 'em or hate 'em, it was a pretty influential record as far as indie music goes


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Hell, Song Against Sex alone was freaking revolutionary and ridiculous.

Happy Velvet Underground + Nico got as high as it did.  The top isn't horrible.  The rest is very debatable.
 
2013-03-24 09:48:58 PM
Look, you get Franz Ferdinand OR The Strokes.

Not both.

/really not either
//fine albums both but nothing effing revolutionary, they were just tighter than other people doing the same thing
///upload.wikimedia.org  = hyped up by the press and actually worth it
 
2013-03-24 09:51:48 PM
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The only punk album ever made.
 
2013-03-24 09:54:11 PM

L.D. Ablo: Lorelle: Subby is correct. Hendrix should have been #1, and the rap shiat doesn't even belong on the list.

Well, yes.

I might take rap seriously if they started writing their own hooks and playing instruments.


Like Frank Sinatra wrote his own hooks and played instruments?  or Billie Holiday?  or Whitney Houston?

I suppose you don't take them seriously either.
 
2013-03-24 09:56:09 PM
 L.D. Ablo: Lorelle: Subby is correct. Hendrix should have been #1, and the rap shiat doesn't even belong on the list.

Well, yes.

I might take rap seriously if they started writing their own hooks and playing instruments.

Like my band does?
Animal Nation -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlW55-o5fH0
Or these guys?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm7Xt2Qsjcgor how about these guys?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxi42VBd2BAIllmatic not being in the top ten is a travesty. I hate The Strokes, and the Sex Pistols definetely have no place here. But to dismiss the impact hip-hop has had on music and culture over the past 30 years is downright silly.
 
2013-03-24 09:56:10 PM

PopeoftheFCOTB: List fails without inclusion of Chicago Transit Authority.


I'm ok with that.

//not the exclusion, but your mention of CTA
 
2013-03-24 09:58:02 PM

mcmnky: L.D. Ablo: Lorelle: Subby is correct. Hendrix should have been #1, and the rap shiat doesn't even belong on the list.

Well, yes.

I might take rap seriously if they started writing their own hooks and playing instruments.

Like Frank Sinatra wrote his own hooks and played instruments?  or Billie Holiday?  or Whitney Houston?

I suppose you don't take them seriously either.


They could actually, y'know....sing. And quite well.

F*ck rap and hip/hop.
 
2013-03-24 09:58:15 PM
not sure what happened there..
 
2013-03-24 10:02:07 PM

The Voice of Doom: Paleorific
Fade2black: theorellior: BizarreMan: A 100 page slideshow?

They ain't out of touch with their advertisers.

I'm sure it was too much trouble to check out the 100 album scroll bar x 10 at the top. Chubby fingers and all.

yep, the deslided link is more cumbersome that the RS post in this case.

I would say it depends on the output format you select..

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Meh.  I'd say actually not too bad.

I could give a couple minor quibbles, but my major issue is, at least half of those albums and most other albums people will suggest should be on the list never exist if we don't get the Beatles first.  How are they not top 10?
 
2013-03-24 10:15:14 PM

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Aargh


Seriously. Why the fark isn't that on the list?
 
2013-03-24 10:19:14 PM

John Buck 41: They could actually, y'know....sing. And quite well.

F*ck rap and hip/hop.


Damn that rapping! Why can't they just sing and fit in to my narrow view of music? It's impossible to be talented at rapping and lyricism, I mean anyone could do it. I bet John Buck could rap like Nas or the guys in Wu-Tang, it's so easy! Right?

/never been into country, but I don't disparage the whole genre because I'm not an idiot.
//I understand people that hate subgenres, but hating a broad genre like hip-hop (or anything) makes you sound either really old or really ignorant.
 
2013-03-24 10:19:28 PM
I've seen worse lists.

That Top 10 wouldn't be mine, but there's a reasonable argument for the inclusion of pretty much every album there...  except The Strokes.  Plenty of better garage rock re-revival debuts came out around that same time and probably none of them are Top 10 all-time material.

This is a better album than that Strokes album, and it would probably only make my Top 20...

www.intheredrecords.com
 
2013-03-24 10:19:55 PM

Shadow Blasko: fusillade762: Next issue: the 500 best sophomore albums of all time!
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#1 should be easy enough...


Might have some competition from this:

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2013-03-24 10:20:34 PM
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2013-03-24 10:26:55 PM

mikemoto: Why would Rubber Soul, which is a very inconsistent album rank ahead of Abbey Road, which in many ways is the Beatles best produced album? Yes, there are some great tracks on Rubber Soul, most notably Norwegian Wood. But it also features The Word and Run For Your Life, two songs that John Lennon himself admitted were shiat.


Just goes to show, even if the composer doesn't like the results, the songs will still speak to people.

That's what pushes The Beatles from "a band" to "artists."
 
2013-03-24 10:35:18 PM

Sinbox: italie: Not as bad as I would have thought 7-1, but referencing "Nevermind" FOUR times and leaving it off the list seems counter-intuitive. Either it was a great debut album that set the benchmark for the others, or it wasn't. Make up your mind.

But for one tiny detail: Bleach was Nirvana's debut album.

Just as Catch a Fire wasn't the Wailers' debut album. Chalk it up to an embarrassing bout of cranial flatulence. If I could, I'd replace it with:

[tralfaz-archives.com image 400x400]


was going to rip into you for that Wailers mistake, but I'll recommend some other debuts instead:
Ijahman - Haile I Hymn
Joe Higgs - LIfe of Contradiction
Fred Locks - Black Star Liners
Hugh Mundell - Africa Must Be Free by 1983
The Wailing Souls - s/t
 
2013-03-24 10:36:40 PM
What, Mary MacGregor's "Torn Between Two Lovers" didn't make the list?

SHENANIGANS!

www.recordsale.de
 
2013-03-24 10:42:08 PM

AzDownboy: fusillade762: No "My Bloody Valentine"?

Glider was not the earth shatterer that Loveless was


Wasn't glider an EP? I mean, technically GNR had an EP before appetite as well. But overall that list was pretty reasonable actually.
 
2013-03-24 10:42:20 PM

cranched: Too NY centric, that's why I stopped reading the mag in 1980.


And yet they didn't bother listing at least one (originally) New York-based act's debut album...

www.geeksofdoom.com
 
2013-03-24 10:48:08 PM
reykjaviksexfarm.files.wordpress.comOne of the best albums of '83, period.
 
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