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(Slate)   Is "Wind Turbine Syndrome" a real disease or just something dreamed up by crackpots?   (slate.com) divider line 193
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2013-03-24 10:43:59 AM  
Oddly, most of the people who believe the science here think that climate change science is a lie. * cough NIMBY*
 
2013-03-24 10:46:36 AM  
Sound a WHOLE lot like this

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4072  - Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity: Real or Imagined?

Are sufferers of electrosensitivity reacting to electromagnetism, or just to simple stress?

tl;dr PodCast Version - http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4072.mp3


Also related

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4151 - The Placebo Effect

We all know what placebos can't do; how about what they can do?

tl;dr PodCast Version - http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4151.mp3
 
2013-03-24 10:49:31 AM  
As one of the authors of the study points out, this appears to be a classic case of the nocebo effect. It's the evil twin of the placebo effect, which is often a pain-alleviating response to a sham pill or treatment. Nocebo effects are harmful symptoms that arise from negative information.

Back in the Dark Ages, we called that "psychosomatic" illness.  Not exactly faking, but definitely not really sick.
 
2013-03-24 10:59:24 AM  
You wouldn't believe how much black-market Viagra I need now to get an erection whenever I hear the sound of a ceiling fan or box fan. Anything fan related, really.
 
2013-03-24 12:38:42 PM  
meh... wind turbines are harmless

/those frikkin smart meters will make your skeleton dissolve, though
//slowly
///very slowly
 
2013-03-24 01:20:48 PM  
It's just a side effect of morgellons disease.
 
2013-03-24 03:26:27 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: meh... wind turbines are harmless

/those frikkin smart meters will make your skeleton dissolve, though
//slowly
///very slowly


By overcharging your electric bill. And maybe starting your house on fire. They're ornery little shiats.
 
2013-03-24 03:29:18 PM  
Crackpots.  Next?
 
2013-03-24 03:29:42 PM  

Raharu: Sound a WHOLE lot like this

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4072  - Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity: Real or Imagined?

Are sufferers of electrosensitivity reacting to electromagnetism, or just to simple stress?

tl;dr PodCast Version - http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4072.mp3


Also related

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4151 - The Placebo Effect

We all know what placebos can't do; how about what they can do?

tl;dr PodCast Version - http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4151.mp3


One of my favorite weekly podcasts.
 
2013-03-24 03:32:04 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: As one of the authors of the study points out, this appears to be a classic case of the nocebo effect. It's the evil twin of the placebo effect, which is often a pain-alleviating response to a sham pill or treatment. Nocebo effects are harmful symptoms that arise from negative information.

Back in the Dark Ages, we called that "psychosomatic" illness.  Not exactly faking, but definitely not really sick.


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2013-03-24 03:32:33 PM  
I work on the damn things daily, why the hell don't I have this disease?
 
2013-03-24 03:33:14 PM  
I attached one of those to my butt to charge my tablet and cell.
 
2013-03-24 03:33:14 PM  
The roots of EMF hysteria in the United States can be traced back to the 1980s and 1990s and the work of a crusading journalist who published stories in The New Yorker under the heading "Annals of Radiation."


Wow, so all that science-hating derp can be traced to a New Yorker science journalist?  *ironictag.jpg*

Thanks a lot, Paul Brodeur.
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-03-24 03:34:39 PM  
It's amazing how many people realize they have this disease once they're told it exists.
 
2013-03-24 03:34:51 PM  
Cool,  a new disease for all the whiny hypocondriacs to self-diagnose with.
 
2013-03-24 03:35:31 PM  
I used to set off dynamite for a living. One thing they warned us about was to avoid even the slightest shock from the charges, that is, the pressure wave from when the dynamite went off. The damage was cumulative, even from a weak pressure wave. There were stories about guys who ignored this, and were fine for years until suddenly they fell over dead from one pressure wave too many. I don't know if I believe that or not.

Anyway, I can believe that over a long period of time the whomp whomp whomp from the blades could do some damage. The resonant frequency of your internal organs is about 10Hz, which would be part of the frequency spectrum produced by a turbine.

It might also be that low frequency noise over a very long period of time might mess with your brain, in the sense that it could cause some pychosomatic illness, in the sense that the brain is off a bit and that throws the endocrine system off some, or the vagus nerve gets annoyed.

Most likely this is a bullshiat disease but it's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility.
 
2013-03-24 03:36:05 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: You wouldn't believe how much black-market Viagra I need now to get an erection whenever I hear the sound of a ceiling fan or box fan. Anything fan related, really.


I hear ya. Personally, I also have to pee sitting down if the bathroom I'm using is in close proximity to a wireless router. Something about the presence of a strong signal cause my penis to wiggle around uncontrollably like a dowsing rod.
 
2013-03-24 03:36:32 PM  
Is "Wind Turbine Syndrome" a real disease...

No.


...or just something dreamed up by crackpots?

i1136.photobucket.com

Yes.
 
2013-03-24 03:36:32 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-24 03:37:59 PM  
No... wind turbines do not make people sick.

No... airplanes and jets are not spraying "chemtrails".

No... planet X is not a real thing.

No... "skyfish" are not real.

Yes... we correctly think people who believe in this kind of shiat are crazy loons.
 
2013-03-24 03:38:03 PM  

enemy of the state: Most likely this is a bullshiat disease but it's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility.


The fact that nobody has symptoms until word of the "disease" reaches a subdivision, at which point fifty cases break out simultaneously, pretty much settles the issue.
 
2013-03-24 03:38:27 PM  
I work near a field of 150+ of em.  They are beautiful.
 
2013-03-24 03:39:31 PM  
Definitely the second one.

Although I have heard this kind of hum for as long as I can remember, and once when I was vacationing in the Rockies I was sitting there high on a mountaintop and I realized I was actually hearing complete silence. The hum was gone. It was pretty amazing to me.
 
2013-03-24 03:39:38 PM  
THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US ALL!
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-03-24 03:41:46 PM  
Wind Turbines don't cause sickness. That's just silly.
Wind Turbines just stir up the chemtrails so that they are more thoroughly mixed within the air.
 
2013-03-24 03:43:12 PM  
www.zootle.net
//Always relevant
 
2013-03-24 03:43:27 PM  

ExtremeFajita: Cool,  a new disease for all the whiny hypocondriacs to self-diagnose with.


Fibromyalgia, Asperger's, and ADD are about to get a new friend!
 
2013-03-24 03:43:46 PM  
Some governments have experimented with atmospheric chemical seeding to try to shift weather in their favour.
 
2013-03-24 03:45:06 PM  
Same principle as fan death, they have this problem a lot in the netherlands too.
 
2013-03-24 03:45:43 PM  
This reminds me of the people who think they're allergic to WiFi... not EM radiation in the 2.4 Ghz band, but specifically the 802.11 protocol.
 
2013-03-24 03:47:18 PM  

FunkOut: SomeALL (modern) governments have experimented with atmospheric chemical seeding to try to shift weather in their favour.

 
2013-03-24 03:47:36 PM  

JohnnyC: No... wind turbines do not make people sick.

No... airplanes and jets are not spraying "chemtrails".

No... planet X is not a real thing.

No... "skyfish" are not real.

Yes... we correctly think people who believe in this kind of shiat are crazy loons.


Hahahaha!  There's a "chemtrail" guy at one of my breakfast hangouts.
 
2013-03-24 03:48:24 PM  

enemy of the state: The resonant frequency of your internal organs is about 10Hz


Are there any citations for this factoid which are not from quack pseudoscience sites?
 
2013-03-24 03:49:00 PM  

Yogimus: FunkOut: SomeALL (modern) governments have experimented with atmospheric chemical seeding to try to shift weather in their favour.


Weather modification is a very interesting science.
 
2013-03-24 03:49:05 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: You wouldn't believe how much black-market Viagra I need now to get an erection whenever I hear the sound of a ceiling fan or box fan. Anything fan related, really.


You're right. I wouldn't.
 
2013-03-24 03:49:20 PM  
I'd write a response, but that would require me to send something through a wireless router powered by a smart meter, and I done chased off the power-company guy when he came to install the latter.

Now pardon me while I breathe in the fresh, clean air provided by my local coal power plant.
 
2013-03-24 03:49:58 PM  

jtown: JohnnyC: No... wind turbines do not make people sick.

No... airplanes and jets are not spraying "chemtrails".

No... planet X is not a real thing.

No... "skyfish" are not real.

Yes... we correctly think people who believe in this kind of shiat are crazy loons.

Hahahaha!  There's a "chemtrail" guy at one of my breakfast hangouts.


Tell him that febreeze is a government plot to put chemicals in the environment that make people more prone to suggestion.  Tell him that Johnson & Johnson has been doing it for YEARS with their odor sprays.
 
2013-03-24 03:50:18 PM  
You think that's bad...

I've heard Fark has been linked to the dreaded "Pink Elephant disease".  People browse Fark, and suddenly they can't stop thinking about Pink Elephants.
 
GBB
2013-03-24 03:51:50 PM  
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2013-03-24 03:52:15 PM  

lousyskater: I work on the damn things daily, why the hell don't I have this disease?


Because you  get to go home at night.

I dont live near one, so I cant say.

If their noise is actually audible, I could see how it might drive one crazy.

Of course, others would hear it too in that case.
 
2013-03-24 03:52:17 PM  
I see it has been mentioned but the first thing I thought of was Electromagnetic Sensitivity. As a cool aside a couple of my students were kissing outside my classroom when I opened up in the morning so I told them to be carefull they could pass eyelash mites to each other. Of course no one in the class belived in them so I did a GIS and put an image of one up on the smartboard. Almost all of them had creepy-crawly sensations around their eyes when they left.
 
2013-03-24 03:52:29 PM  
www.all-about-magicians.com

"Not this shiat again."
 
2013-03-24 03:52:48 PM  

poot_rootbeer: enemy of the state: The resonant frequency of your internal organs is about 10Hz

Are there any citations for this factoid which are not from quack pseudoscience sites?


pretty sure the mythbusters showed that to all be bullshiat when doing the 'brown note' myth years ago.
 
2013-03-24 03:53:34 PM  
It's the crackpots who will save us,  Just like they are current protecting us from all the deadly-orgone generated by the power grid theses days.  By building stuff like Holy Handgrenade Orgone Collectors and hiding them all about.

All they need to do is to figure out what crystal or whatnot wrapped in other stuff in to counteract it, and we're golden
 
2013-03-24 03:53:45 PM  

TomD9938: lousyskater: I work on the damn things daily, why the hell don't I have this disease?

Because you  get to go home at night.

I dont live near one, so I cant say.

If their noise is actually audible, I could see how it might drive one crazy.

Of course, others would hear it too in that case.


They only make noise if there is wind. Wind makes the noise inaudible.
 
2013-03-24 03:56:39 PM  

msupf: poot_rootbeer: enemy of the state: The resonant frequency of your internal organs is about 10Hz

Are there any citations for this factoid which are not from quack pseudoscience sites?

pretty sure the mythbusters showed that to all be bullshiat when doing the 'brown note' myth years ago.


They DID prove that Infrasound affects human psychological state.
 
2013-03-24 03:56:59 PM  

kevinatilusa: You think that's bad...

I've heard Fark has been linked to the dreaded "Pink Elephant disease".  People browse Fark, and suddenly they can't stop thinking about Pink Elephants.


... damn you ...
 
2013-03-24 03:58:07 PM  
 
2013-03-24 03:59:45 PM  
This is as real as Taco Neck Syndrome and Restless Leg Syndrome.
 
2013-03-24 04:00:09 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: It's the crackpots who will save us,  Just like they are current protecting us from all the deadly-orgone generated by the power grid theses days.  By building stuff like Holy Handgrenade Orgone Collectors and hiding them all about.

All they need to do is to figure out what crystal or whatnot wrapped in other stuff in to counteract it, and we're golden


Introducing SafeSpace, the handy-dandy ElectroMagnetic Field cleanser!  Only $119!!
www.globalhealingcenter.com
 
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