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2013-03-24 09:30:01 AM
Don't worry, those headphones are perfectly appropriate for overcompressed music you aren't listening to.
 
2013-03-24 10:22:26 AM
I get the feeling no one actually listens actively to music anymore. That makes me sad.
 
2013-03-24 10:23:50 AM

ginandbacon: I get the feeling no one actually listens actively to music anymore. That makes me sad.


I do, and my friends do, but it is getting to be an unusual activity.
 
2013-03-24 12:42:18 PM
I have an ADU OneGood for biking and it is nice really helps on those 50 mile rides.

St_Francis_P: ginandbacon: I get the feeling no one actually listens actively to music anymore. That makes me sad.

I do, and my friends do, but it is getting to be an unusual activity.


It is getting rare, just look at what is available for speakers, and standalone amps everything is geared towards home theater.
 
2013-03-24 12:45:40 PM
If anything, headphones, like smart phones, are prized more for status than for function.
 
2013-03-24 12:49:48 PM
The truth is, if you're using cheap cables you're missing out on the best part of the musics.
 
2013-03-24 12:50:49 PM
1. Listen to a bunch of them and pick what sounds best to you


...and you're done.

DNRTFA, but if it says anything but that, it's superfluous twaddle.
 
2013-03-24 12:51:06 PM
Headphone thread?

Sennheiser HD 558, usually straight to stereo or computer.  If they are used on my mp3 player, I run them through a Travagan's dogbone amplifier.  Sound is really good.
 
2013-03-24 12:53:32 PM
In some places it's illegal to cycle while wearing headphones or earbuds. Can't imagine why anyone would think that wearing noise canceling earbuds in traffic should be illegal.
 
2013-03-24 12:53:59 PM

grinding_journalist: DNRTFA, but if it says anything but that, it's superfluous twaddle.


The article basically runs downs different sets for whatever activity you are using them for.
 
2013-03-24 12:55:37 PM

Summoner101: If anything, headphones, like smart phones, are prized more for status than for function.


This. I prefer iPhone 5 headphones, because 1. they have built-in controls for my phone, 2. they're free. I have a 3GS. The 5 headphones were the free replacement Apple gave me when my old ones died. 

If I had Andoird, it would be the same way. Why waste money on tiny, tinny headphones?
 
2013-03-24 12:55:56 PM

St_Francis_P: ginandbacon: I get the feeling no one actually listens actively to music anymore. That makes me sad.

I do, and my friends do, but it is getting to be an unusual activity. probably bands you've never heard of.



i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-24 01:04:37 PM

Orgasmatron138: Headphone thread?

Sennheiser HD 558, usually straight to stereo or computer.  If they are used on my mp3 player, I run them through a Travagan's dogbone amplifier.  Sound is really good.


My HD535s still sound great even though the foam is falling apart and I had to glue them back together after one of the kids sat on them. I just hooked up a Beomaster 2400 I found in a house I was hired to clean out. Works perfectly except for a couple indicator lights. This replaced a Sansui Classique 250 (a 221 badged for a rack system) and the difference going from 8 watts per channel to 25 is noticeable in the low end especially. The speakers are Cerwin Vega DX-5s.
 
2013-03-24 01:10:50 PM

ginandbacon: I get the feeling no one actually listens actively to music anymore. That makes me sad.


I frequently see people aged 18-25 boldly walking out into crosswalks with their head down, lost in thought, looking at the ground, while they listen to music on giant headphones.

/Good thing no one ever runs over pedestrians at crosswalks.
 
2013-03-24 01:16:17 PM

Tom_Slick: grinding_journalist: DNRTFA, but if it says anything but that, it's superfluous twaddle.

The article basically runs downs different sets for whatever activity you are using them for.


My point remains. If you like wearing giant over-ears while exercising, they're right for you. If you like tinny tiny earbuds when trying to listen to the subtle differences in chords on the B-Side of a Cream album, they're right for you.

All audio equipment depends on how good it sounds to the user. I despise Apple earbuds, but am perfectly satisfied with a variety of cheap headphones, unless I'm on an airplane, in which case I want cancellers.

Skimming TFA, I see what they're trying to do, but none of the models they recommend would make sense to the end user who didn't think they sounded good.
 
2013-03-24 01:22:50 PM
GIGO.

Encode the music right in the first place.
 
2013-03-24 01:23:27 PM
WTF does " a low by $x " mean?
 
2013-03-24 01:33:55 PM
My Beyerdynamics are my favourite music investment ever.
 
kab
2013-03-24 01:39:22 PM
AKG 271 MKII's here.

/bought them more for isolation during tracking than anything else.
//decent enough, not really that great for drum-work though.
///Listening?  Earbuds occassionally at work / jogging, speakers for everywhere else.
 
2013-03-24 01:39:41 PM
Shure e2c for my canalphones for the gym, running, etc

Bose noise-canceling quietcomfort 2 for extended use (like airplanes) because the canalphones get uncomfortable after about an hour.

/yes, I know the Bose are somewhat shiatty and overpriced, but they were a gift, are comfortable, and work good enough.
 
2013-03-24 01:46:46 PM
I have a pair of early '80's Realistic Pro-60 (Koss hv/1a ) headphones that still work perfectly. Haven't tried on any headphones since that come close.
 
2013-03-24 01:46:52 PM
David Byrne gives 16 minute talk on how architecture helped music evolve.  TED
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_byrne_how_architecture_helped_music_e vo lve.html
 
2013-03-24 01:59:38 PM
CNet gave high praise to these headphones from Monoprice. I'm currently using some Sennheiser earbuds for my phone which are alright, and a Logitech G930 headset for my PC which is also alright. Seeing as Monoprice has a history of raising the bar of value, was wondering if these are as good as this guy says.

/probably stick with what I have, just curious
 
2013-03-24 02:01:23 PM

red5ish: In some places it's illegal to cycle while wearing headphones or earbuds. Can't imagine why anyone would think that wearing noise canceling earbuds in traffic should be illegal.


I've seen people driving with them in. What the hell?
 
2013-03-24 02:35:04 PM

grinding_journalist: Tom_Slick: grinding_journalist: DNRTFA, but if it says anything but that, it's superfluous twaddle.

The article basically runs downs different sets for whatever activity you are using them for.

My point remains. If you like wearing giant over-ears while exercising, they're right for you. If you like tinny tiny earbuds when trying to listen to the subtle differences in chords on the B-Side of a Cream album, they're right for you.


THIS.  Maybe I have oddly shaped ears or something, but there is no way in hell earbuds will stay in my ears once I start to sweat.  I'm constantly fiddling with them, trying to push them in well enough to Stay the Fark In There, dammit!  Bought a cheapo set of JVC flats and haven't had a problem yet.  The sound isn't even as good as the apple earbuds, but they were cheap and they don't fall off me while on the bike.

Headphones are like wine, IMHO.  There is no such thing as inherently bad wine.  If you like it, it's good wine.  If they suit your needs, they're good headphones.

/And seriously - "Beatz by Dr. Dre"?  It' the faring Monster Cable of headphones.
 
2013-03-24 02:43:54 PM
 total thread jack, but does anyone know why my laptop will not type anything but letters and numbers???? no tab, delete, enter or backspace. using an on screen keyboard right now.
 
2013-03-24 03:04:58 PM

great_tigers: total thread jack, but does anyone know why my laptop will not type anything but letters and numbers???? no tab, delete, enter or backspace. using an on screen keyboard right now.


You must have the wrong headphones plugged into your computer
 
2013-03-24 03:05:59 PM

great_tigers: total thread jack, but does anyone know why my laptop will not type anything but letters and numbers???? no tab, delete, enter or backspace. using an on screen keyboard right now.


In the case of Farkers, it commonly means a liquid, usually a form of alcohol, was spilled onto the keyboard during last night's drunken Farking, and is not remembered during the haze of next day's hang over.
 
2013-03-24 03:17:10 PM

Glitchwerks: great_tigers: total thread jack, but does anyone know why my laptop will not type anything but letters and numbers???? no tab, delete, enter or backspace. using an on screen keyboard right now.

In the case of Farkers, it commonly means a liquid, usually a form of alcohol, was spilled onto the keyboard during last night's drunken Farking, and is not remembered during the haze of next day's hang over.


It was like this before, reverted back to working fine and now wont work right. Very annoying.
 
2013-03-24 03:39:32 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: grinding_journalist: Tom_Slick: grinding_journalist: DNRTFA, but if it says anything but that, it's superfluous twaddle.

The article basically runs downs different sets for whatever activity you are using them for.

My point remains. If you like wearing giant over-ears while exercising, they're right for you. If you like tinny tiny earbuds when trying to listen to the subtle differences in chords on the B-Side of a Cream album, they're right for you.

THIS.  Maybe I have oddly shaped ears or something, but there is no way in hell earbuds will stay in my ears once I start to sweat.  I'm constantly fiddling with them, trying to push them in well enough to Stay the Fark In There, dammit!  Bought a cheapo set of JVC flats and haven't had a problem yet.  The sound isn't even as good as the apple earbuds, but they were cheap and they don't fall off me while on the bike.

Headphones are like wine, IMHO.  There is no such thing as inherently bad wine.  If you like it, it's good wine.  If they suit your needs, they're good headphones.

/And seriously - "Beatz by Dr. Dre"?  It' the faring Monster Cable of headphones.


I'm not sure if some enterprising company has sold them separately, but the buds I used when running have something that reminds me of the earplugs some kids used to use in the pool.  It's just a little rubber shroud that is shaped similar to the ear canal so it has a more 'snug' fit than the usual flat bud design.

/not a plug
//more of a canal, if that makes sense
 
2013-03-24 03:50:37 PM

red5ish: David Byrne gives 16 minute talk on how architecture helped music evolve.  TED
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_byrne_how_architecture_helped_music_e vo lve.html


I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.
 
2013-03-24 03:53:21 PM

ginandbacon: I get the feeling no one actually listens actively to music anymore. That makes me sad.


I used to be ignorant, and then I got engaged to a musician. I can't enjoy the radio anymore. :(

/hopefully will be able to go back to school for fun someday and earn a B.Music.
//is seriously in awe of her fiancé's talent, skill, and experience
 
2013-03-24 04:09:10 PM
For listening to music, the previous version of this was the best $70 I ever spent (Better than the excellent Sennheiser 590s).
 
2013-03-24 04:20:31 PM
I like how their recommendation for headphones to use while swimming is a case that, according to its description,  should not be submerged.
 
2013-03-24 04:26:21 PM
Noise-blocking earbuds: Etymotic ER4p
Noise-blocking earbuds/mic for my phone: Etymotic hf3
Non-noise-blocking earbuds/mic for my phone: The ones that came with it.
Headphones: Sony MDR7506 (on-ear, folding for transport)

/listens for a living
 
2013-03-24 04:30:43 PM
Bought a pair of Sennheiser HD433's back in the late 90's along with some HD455's.
I will be buried with them.
/replaced the cables on the 455's twice
//still love them
 
2013-03-24 04:34:40 PM
Bought a pair of Bluedio R-series headphones. Pretty damn decent sound, though a little bassy at times. Big props to the fact that they're A: bluetooth, B: Amazing on battery life(Cords Suck!), and C: also contain a built-in MP3 player. Best damn set of phones you've never heard of. Oh, and they're a headset for calls and vent as well.
 
2013-03-24 04:59:12 PM
Wireless headphones are a poor idea if you're concerned about sound quality and price to performance ratio.

They're combining headphones, a DAC and an amp all into one product then anally violating the consumer with the price. The consumer generally doesn't realize this and simply sees "convenient."
 
2013-03-24 05:06:26 PM
I just learned to solder so I could repair the six or so pairs of Grado SR-80's I have purchased and subsequently broken over the last 10 years.
 
2013-03-24 05:09:35 PM
This is all you need to know.

kenrockwell.com
 
2013-03-24 05:13:22 PM

FunkOut: red5ish: In some places it's illegal to cycle while wearing headphones or earbuds. Can't imagine why anyone would think that wearing noise canceling earbuds in traffic should be illegal.

I've seen people driving with them in. What the hell?


I see that frequently lately, and I thought that wearing headphones while driving wasn't legal
 
2013-03-24 05:51:29 PM

DeathByGeekSquad:

I'm not sure if some enterprising company has sold them separately, but the buds I used when running have something that reminds me of the earplugs some kids used to use in the pool.  It's just a little rubber shroud that is shaped similar to the ear canal so it has a more 'snug' fit than the usual flat bud design.

/not a plug
//more of a canal, if that makes sense


In ear monitors, or IEMs.  Lots of companies make them now.

Electrify: CNet gave high praise to these headphones from Monoprice. I'm currently using some Sennheiser earbuds for my phone which are alright, and a Logitech G930 headset for my PC which is also alright. Seeing as Monoprice has a history of raising the bar of value, was wondering if these are as good as this guy says.

/probably stick with what I have, just curious


I've got those.

The Monoprice 8323 are good headphones for hard rock, metal, rap, pop, and drum and bass music the way they come in the box.  They are warm sounding and drums have good punch, but they have a hole in the upper midrange, so voice clarity, strings, and wind instruments get the short end of the stick if you want to get insane amounts of detail out of these headphones.

Fortunately, a +6 db equalizer boost on your player or computer at the 4 khz range gets these sounding really good for classical or jazz.  All the details start coming through,  the soundstage expands out, and you can close your eyes and hear the different instruments' locations.

I love the detachable cord.  I've already given the cable a few accidental hard yanks and having them happily disconnect instead of a sharp yank on the cord and the headphone's insides is a lifesaver.  Build quality easily hits above their price.

Comfort is meh.  The headband cushioning sucks after an hour or two.  The earpads are...acceptable.

For under 27 dollars shipped, they really are fantastic general listening headphones with only a few small issues.
 
2013-03-24 06:16:10 PM
Kyosuke:  Headphones: Sony MDR7506 (on-ear, folding for transport)

Second to this.  I've had a pair of these for 15 years.  I couldn't believe how clear everything sounded first time I put them on.  I can hear every note without the big soupy bass mess most headphones purposely force upon the listener.
 
2013-03-24 06:35:31 PM
Bah. You poors can have your headphones. I just hire the original bands to play for me wherever I go.
 
2013-03-24 07:01:44 PM

On the Side: The truth is, if you're using cheap cables you're missing out on the best part of the musics.


So you'd recommend some nice directional cables?

Personally I find cables made of wire that connect snugly work best. My price point is about 20% off the eBay bottom line.
 
2013-03-24 07:17:14 PM
Once you .flac, you never go back.

/Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro 250 Ohm
//FiiO E09k and E17
///HELMUT WALCHA
 
2013-03-24 07:28:42 PM
Earbuds are NOT headphones.
 
2013-03-24 07:42:03 PM

vicejay: This is all you need to know.

[kenrockwell.com image 640x443]


Comes complete with its own douchebag?
Is that what that is in that picture? A nice vinyl douchebag?

This is the latest retail rip-off thing: $150-$200 earbuds and designer headphones, a-la Dr. Dre beats and etc. Suckers born every minute and getting paid every Friday.
 
2013-03-24 08:07:28 PM
My nephew got a pair of £200 Beats by Dr Dre heaphones for christmas. I have some £80 Sennheisers (hd439) and they sound much much better...
 
2013-03-24 08:11:09 PM

Summoner101: If anything, headphones, like smart phones, are prized more for status than for function.


No one here is talking about "Beats by Dre" headphones, man. Those might be the cans and the consumer you're thinking about.

Though it may seem a foreign concept to you, people spend a few bucks on headphones because they enjoy music and not some noise smeared across our ears. Remind me to find a hobby of yours and then dismiss it outright without knowing what I'm talking about.

Cheers!
 
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