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(Fox News)   You might think that this is just another story of a Florida teacher getting into trouble together with one of his students, but this time, it happened during a skydiving lesson   (foxnews.com) divider line 58
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2013-03-24 11:11:42 AM  
Ow.
 
2013-03-24 11:13:59 AM  
Sorry for the two daredevils, but worst written article ever in a long time
 
2013-03-24 11:15:47 AM  

drongozone: Sorry for the two daredevils, but worst written article ever in a long time


img1.fark.net
 
2013-03-24 11:16:00 AM  
Last minute decisions: Feet first? Head first? Belly flop?
 
2013-03-24 11:16:12 AM  
Looked into his eyes, and fell for him hard.
 
2013-03-24 11:18:32 AM  
They were found in an area called Brokeback Mountain
 
2013-03-24 11:19:09 AM  
So were they part of a jump by a group in Zephyrhills?
 
2013-03-24 11:19:47 AM  

Amos Quito: Last minute decisions: Feet first? Head first? Belly flop?


Hilarious swimming motion.
 
2013-03-24 11:20:50 AM  
The students rig should have had an AAD (therefor there should be at least one open chute), and at some point during any training jump the instructor has the right to say goodbye and save him/her self.

/weird
 
2013-03-24 11:25:12 AM  

pounddawg: The students rig should have had an AAD (therefor there should be at least one open chute), and at some point during any training jump the instructor has the right to say goodbye and save him/her self.

/weird


Pretty much need to be either a collision when they tracked off, or a canopy wrap. An AAD won't save always save you if you're unconscious.
 
2013-03-24 11:29:06 AM  
That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.
 
GBB
2013-03-24 11:31:49 AM  

pounddawg: The students rig should have had an AAD (therefor there should be at least one open chute), and at some point during any training jump the instructor has the right to say goodbye and save him/her self.

/weird


I'm no jumper, but I would think that if you took on the responsibility of performing a dare-devil stunt with an inexperienced person for the purpose of training, you would have some sort of obligation to stick with them till the end regardless of the circumstances.  Along the lines of a captian going down with the ship, or at least being the last to leave the vessel.

Of course, this instructor decided to finish with the what-not-to-do lesson.
 
2013-03-24 11:35:25 AM  
Parachutes are fickle things, if you don't talk to them just right they can turn on you, often hiding in their little pack sulking just because you forgot to tell them how pretty they are.
I've given up doing jumps since one refused to open resulting in me losing half my eyelashes, then later during surgery to save the remaining lashes it went off right in the surgeon's face resulting in a multi-million dollar lawsuit from him for damages to his professional confidence or whatever that kranky old sawbones called it.
I stick to short jumps now, just a few feet, no chute.
 
2013-03-24 11:38:21 AM  
...thus setting in motion the events that eventually led to Florida's newest attraction, Dumbass Craters National Park.
 
2013-03-24 11:39:21 AM  

GBB: pounddawg: The students rig should have had an AAD (therefor there should be at least one open chute), and at some point during any training jump the instructor has the right to say goodbye and save him/her self.

/weird

I'm no jumper, but I would think that if you took on the responsibility of performing a dare-devil stunt with an inexperienced person for the purpose of training, you would have some sort of obligation to stick with them till the end regardless of the circumstances.  Along the lines of a captian going down with the ship, or at least being the last to leave the vessel.

Of course, this instructor decided to finish with the what-not-to-do lesson.


Instructors tell you during your training that if you go low enough that they will say goodbye to you and save themselves. Also all student rigs are equipped with a device (AAD) that will deploy your canopy automatically if you go too low in freefall. And yes an ADD will not fly your canopy safely to the ground is you are unconscious.

/jumper since 1992
 
2013-03-24 11:40:04 AM  

GBB: pounddawg: The students rig should have had an AAD (therefor there should be at least one open chute), and at some point during any training jump the instructor has the right to say goodbye and save him/her self.

/weird

I'm no jumper, but I would think that if you took on the responsibility of performing a dare-devil stunt with an inexperienced person for the purpose of training, you would have some sort of obligation to stick with them till the end regardless of the circumstances.  Along the lines of a captian going down with the ship, or at least being the last to leave the vessel.

Of course, this instructor decided to finish with the what-not-to-do lesson.


I'm not current anymore, but SOP during an AFF jump used to be that if the student lost altitude awareness the instructor pulls his handle for him. I'm 100% sure this isn't what happened here however.
 
2013-03-24 11:40:15 AM  

rkiller1: They were found in an area called Brokeback Mountain


did they find bottles of water near the bodies?
 
2013-03-24 11:43:52 AM  
Dear Penthouse,

I never thought I'd be writing a letter like this......
 
2013-03-24 11:48:11 AM  

SpdrJay: Dear Penthouse,

I never thought I'd be writing a letter like this......


Oooh, kinky.
 
2013-03-24 12:00:25 PM  
Hello ground
 
2013-03-24 12:08:27 PM  
I just read from another source that they also located a dead scuba diver high up in a tree close to where the two skydiver bodies were.
 
2013-03-24 12:11:12 PM  
Its true they really fell for each other, though they never really opened up and finally they hit rock bottom.
 
2013-03-24 12:11:34 PM  
If you utilize a proper tuck and roll technique, a healthy human can survive a fall at terminal velocity onto virtually any natural terrain. Death from a fall onto anything but rock is a result of insufficient safety training obtainment and is entirely the fault of the dead. Don't go up there if you can't get down safely. Every mammal knows this. That's why you don't find cat skeleton clusters in the tops of trees.
 
2013-03-24 12:13:28 PM  
I get no kicks from cocaine, a thousand-foot fall doesn't thrill me at all...

/i grew up five blocks from Cole Porter's childhood home, and a mile from his grave
//only two slashies
 
2013-03-24 12:25:34 PM  

phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.


I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.
 
2013-03-24 12:28:30 PM  
FTA: "teams were instructed to look for the men and their chutes, one green-and-white and the parachute blue-and gray"

So, one of the men was green and white?
 
2013-03-24 12:30:06 PM  

YoOjo: Parachutes are fickle things, if you don't talk to them just right they can turn on you, often hiding in their little pack sulking just because you forgot to tell them how pretty they are.
I've given up doing jumps since one refused to open resulting in me losing half my eyelashes, then later during surgery to save the remaining lashes it went off right in the surgeon's face resulting in a multi-million dollar lawsuit from him for damages to his professional confidence or whatever that kranky old sawbones called it.
I stick to short jumps now, just a few feet, no chute.


Are we drinking already?
 
2013-03-24 12:35:42 PM  
 
2013-03-24 12:41:02 PM  

Buttle not Tuttle: How to survive a 35,000 foot fall.


I just told you, tuck and roll. Pine trees help.
 
2013-03-24 12:50:30 PM  

drewogatory: pounddawg: The students rig should have had an AAD (therefor there should be at least one open chute), and at some point during any training jump the instructor has the right to say goodbye and save him/her self.

/weird

Pretty much need to be either a collision when they tracked off, or a canopy wrap. An AAD won't save always save you if you're unconscious.


I'm betting collision; they were both unconscious when they splatted.
 
2013-03-24 12:51:15 PM  

tetsoushima: SpdrJay: Dear Penthouse,

I never thought I'd be writing a letter like this......

Oooh, kinky.


Come on, I'm not the only one who clicked hoping teach got some back door action at terminal velocity from a cheerleader.
 
2013-03-24 01:00:25 PM  

YoOjo: Parachutes are fickle things, if you don't talk to them just right they can turn on you, often hiding in their little pack sulking just because you forgot to tell them how pretty they are.
I've given up doing jumps since one refused to open resulting in me losing half my eyelashes, then later during surgery to save the remaining lashes it went off right in the surgeon's face resulting in a multi-million dollar lawsuit from him for damages to his professional confidence or whatever that kranky old sawbones called it.
I stick to short jumps now, just a few feet, no chute.


I like this. You are very new. Probably an alt? PocketNinja flavour. I approve.
 
2013-03-24 01:01:58 PM  

Buttle not Tuttle: How to survive a 35,000 foot fall.


I'll just walk, thank you anyway.
 
2013-03-24 01:06:24 PM  
I know where they went wrong! I know what their first mistake was.

They jumped out of an airplane.

/anyone going skydiving should be handed a copy of On Natural Selection to read while they are on ascent, so they at least have perspective
 
2013-03-24 01:07:14 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.

I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.


Eeep. Creepy stuff.

My very best bud went there, erm.... 6 years ago? I begged him to reconsider, but he paid me no mind and went. He had a great time. Good.

Following week - deadly accident.

I'm way too chicken to skydive and am not in any way embarrassed to say that.
 
2013-03-24 01:10:45 PM  
Buttle not Tuttle: How to survive a 35,000 foot fall.

From your link:

"Then, if a feet-first entry is inevitable, the most important piece of advice, for reasons both unmentionable and easily understood, is to clench your butt."

Thanks, but after reading the article, I'm way ahead of you.
 
2013-03-24 01:12:17 PM  

phenn: Tad_Waxpole: phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.

I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.

Eeep. Creepy stuff.

My very best bud went there, erm.... 6 years ago? I begged him to reconsider, but he paid me no mind and went. He had a great time. Good.

Following week - deadly accident.

I'm way too chicken to skydive and am not in any way embarrassed to say that.


They have more accidents because they do more jumps. Same with Perris and Arizona. I'm certain the accident rate isn't actually higher.
 
2013-03-24 01:15:05 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.

I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.


It's one of the busiest DZs in the world, morons, and certainly safe. When their planes start going down or people start dying because of something the DZ actually did, then call me. Until then, histrionic on, biatches.
 
2013-03-24 01:38:23 PM  
Clever plan not quite clever enough?
 
2013-03-24 01:46:37 PM  
ransack.:

I like this. You are very new. Probably an alt? PocketNinja flavour. I approve.

No, I'm not an alt, just me. I used to be on here a while ago, maybe 2006 or so, but drifted off and drifted back.
I'd prefer to be conversing about how the economic problems in Cyprus are all the fault of the sloppy runny omlettes they insist on making but until there's a Cypriot egg thread I'm forced to share my other opinions.

/not forced exactly...
 
2013-03-24 01:58:30 PM  

phenn: Tad_Waxpole: phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.

I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.

Eeep. Creepy stuff.

My very best bud went there, erm.... 6 years ago? I begged him to reconsider, but he paid me no mind and went. He had a great time. Good.

Following week - deadly accident.



Some colleagues of mine did a round of diving and really enjoyed it.  A few months later, this happened to the dive outfit they used.  Short version: the pilot got the plane into a flat spin and didn't react quickly enough to recover.  All the jumpers bailed and survived (some hurt badly), the pilot died in the crash.
 
2013-03-24 02:12:57 PM  

YoOjo: ransack.:

I like this. You are very new. Probably an alt? PocketNinja flavour. I approve.

No, I'm not an alt, just me. I used to be on here a while ago, maybe 2006 or so, but drifted off and drifted back.
I'd prefer to be conversing about how the economic problems in Cyprus are all the fault of the sloppy runny omlettes they insist on making but until there's a Cypriot egg thread I'm forced to share my other opinions.

/not forced exactly...


The proteins don't like coaglobulate at the temperatures Euros burn at because they don't have enough carbon credits or something, I listen to the BBC news on the radio on my lunch break but the Doritos are loud and I'm getting high. Welcome back!
 
2013-03-24 02:16:27 PM  

RatOmeter: phenn: Tad_Waxpole: phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.

I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.

Eeep. Creepy stuff.

My very best bud went there, erm.... 6 years ago? I begged him to reconsider, but he paid me no mind and went. He had a great time. Good.

Following week - deadly accident.


Some colleagues of mine did a round of diving and really enjoyed it.  A few months later, this happened to the dive outfit they used.  Short version: the pilot got the plane into a flat spin and didn't react quickly enough to recover.  All the jumpers bailed and survived (some hurt badly), the pilot died in the crash.


The article says somebody videotaped it, where in the he is the goddamn video? Your link sucks.
 
2013-03-24 02:28:33 PM  

RatOmeter: phenn: Tad_Waxpole: phenn: That particular skydive retreat in Zephyrhills has quite a rack of deaths on its record. Might be time to find another way to get one's kicks.

I've actually heard some refer to that particular skydiving company as "Zephyrkills".  And this was a few years ago.

Eeep. Creepy stuff.

My very best bud went there, erm.... 6 years ago? I begged him to reconsider, but he paid me no mind and went. He had a great time. Good.

Following week - deadly accident.


Some colleagues of mine did a round of diving and really enjoyed it.  A few months later, this happened to the dive outfit they used.  Short version: the pilot got the plane into a flat spin and didn't react quickly enough to recover.  All the jumpers bailed and survived (some hurt badly), the pilot died in the crash.


Also, FTL: Toxicological tests performed by the Federal Aviation Administration's Civil Aeromedical Institute (CAMI) found .003 (ug/ml,ug/g) tetrahydrocannabinol carboxylic acid (marihuana) detected in urine.

Case closed. Marihuana with an H.
 
2013-03-24 02:40:31 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: I know where they went wrong! I know what their first mistake was.

They jumped out of an airplane.

/anyone going skydiving should be handed a copy of On Natural Selection to read while they are on ascent, so they at least have perspective


The only time I'm jumping out of an airplane is if its on FIRE.
Dad always told me, "son, never jump out of a perfectly good airplane"
 
2013-03-24 03:17:54 PM  
I knew the victims. They were good people. Well-grounded.
 
2013-03-24 03:34:57 PM  

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: Agent Smiths Laugh: I know where they went wrong! I know what their first mistake was.

They jumped out of an airplane.

/anyone going skydiving should be handed a copy of On Natural Selection to read while they are on ascent, so they at least have perspective

The only time I'm jumping out of an airplane is if its on FIRE.
Dad always told me, "son, never jump out of a perfectly good airplane"


There is no such thing.
 
2013-03-24 03:35:18 PM  
To skydiver guy:  Yaknow, only fools and guano fall out of the sky, and I know your Momma didn't raise no fool.
 
2013-03-24 03:54:31 PM  

MFAWG: drongozone: Sorry for the two daredevils, but worst written article ever in a long time

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Published March 24, 2013

Associated Press


It's just a reflex for you like hearing a bell ring, now, isn't it?
 
2013-03-24 04:05:05 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I knew the victims. They were good people. Well-grounded.


Straight hell, no chute.
 
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