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(HelenaIR.com)   Schools are shocked, SHOCKED that students would set up derogatory high school Facebook pages   (helenair.com) divider line 21
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2013-03-24 11:59:48 AM  
3 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: jumac: As for the school. sorry as far as I am concerned what happens off school grounds or not at a school event is non of their business. If my kids think their teacher(s) are jerks and after finding out what happened I agree with it sure I let them post bout it. Sorry the school has no control on what I as a parent let my kids do when they are not in school. If they think they can punish my kids for what I let them do at home they have another thing coming to them.

If the school has to keep its nose out of your home, I assume you keep you keep your nose out of school.


The schools job is to teach children while they are in class. It is not to police a students entire life. The school authority should end when the student leaves school grounds. You sound like one of those lazy, nosy teachers who sends a lot of homework home because you can't do your job. It's the only profession where employees get payed to make parents do their job for them.
2013-03-24 09:34:20 AM  
3 votes:
"West High Sluts." sounds like something attacking individual young ladies at the school, not the school itself.  That's different.  You dont need cyberbullying laws to deal with that.  Existing harassment, libel, etc. etc. laws will suffice (in the hands of a DA who gives a damn).
2013-03-24 09:24:13 AM  
3 votes:

mrlewish: "Because of the offensiveness, I was worried about the safety of the kids,"

Really?


Really.  This is a legit issue, on that front.

Making a page that demeans bunches of students, notably women, LGBT, and such, can help perpetuate certain treatment as 'acceptable'.  Kids push boundaries; they're supposed to.  It's a part of exploring independance.  But something like this causes a lot of fear about any of the girls listed as 'sluts' being put into very dangerous scenarios based on rumors.

'Think of the children' is an overused pile of bullshiat, but in this case?  It's totally legit.
2013-03-24 01:03:39 PM  
2 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: The school's authority extends to whatever behavior affects a student's ability to benefit from the school's educational efforts. The effects of bullying do so, wherever the bullying occurs.


Yeah, that's not a blank check for the schools to do whatever they want or anything.
2013-03-24 11:08:58 AM  
2 votes:
What an appalling waste of FBI resources.
2013-03-24 10:21:42 AM  
2 votes:
This is total BS. Schools have no business policing the internet.
2013-03-24 09:23:50 AM  
2 votes:
Schools and their administrators are in the habit of telling everyone what to do by profession Sadly, they want to CONTROL everything these kids do all the time at all locations.

It educators had a political party it would be equivalent to the Nazis. "We know what's best for you."

I'm glad to see kids are still kids. Just help them grasp the difference between parody and bullying. And concepts like consent, the word "no", posting on the internet is forever, etc.
2013-03-24 09:19:06 AM  
2 votes:
Note to administrators: in loco parentis  does not mean Crazy Parent.

/it's Latin, not Spanish, dumbass
2013-03-24 04:13:58 PM  
1 votes:
One of the consistent factors I notice in stories like this is how the adults act more immature (or at least as immature) as the kids.
2013-03-24 01:13:29 PM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: jumac: As for the school. sorry as far as I am concerned what happens off school grounds or not at a school event is non of their business. If my kids think their teacher(s) are jerks and after finding out what happened I agree with it sure I let them post bout it. Sorry the school has no control on what I as a parent let my kids do when they are not in school. If they think they can punish my kids for what I let them do at home they have another thing coming to them.

If the school has to keep its nose out of your home, I assume you keep you keep your nose out of school.


False. As a taxpayer the teachers are his employees. Amusing that you would give a government entity the same rights as a citizen though. I bet you're one of the people who cries about businesses having rights because they are collections of individuals.
2013-03-24 01:11:26 PM  
1 votes:

AndreMA: What an appalling waste of FBI resources.


It isn't really a waste because they have nothing better to do. The problem is we have way too many FBI resources.

Step one to fixing this country is to fire half of the police, from the local cops who are so bored that they have time for speeding tickets to the FBI who lounge around the office dealing with this shiat.
2013-03-24 01:09:08 PM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: jumac: As for the school. sorry as far as I am concerned what happens off school grounds or not at a school event is non of their business. If my kids think their teacher(s) are jerks and after finding out what happened I agree with it sure I let them post bout it. Sorry the school has no control on what I as a parent let my kids do when they are not in school. If they think they can punish my kids for what I let them do at home they have another thing coming to them.

If the school has to keep its nose out of your home, I assume you keep you keep your nose out of school.


Just as soon as we all are allowed to stop paying for that school.
2013-03-24 01:03:39 PM  
1 votes:
TFA:  National news stories about students committing suicide after experiencing online bullying and shaming have become distressingly commonplace.


Uh, if that is even close to being true, why aren't they on Fark on daily, weekly, monthly basis? That happens like what once a year out of seven billion people?

More people kill themselves with alcohol, drink underage, and are beaten/abused/killed by alcoholics. Why not work on banning that instead of bullying if you really care?
2013-03-24 11:36:21 AM  
1 votes:

edmo: It educators had a political party it would be equivalent to the Nazis. "We know what's best for you."


Educators do have a political party.  In the US, it's called The Democratic Party.  In Canada, it's called the New Democratic Party.  And both adhere to the principle that onl they know what is right an good for you.
2013-03-24 11:22:22 AM  
1 votes:
"It's an epidemic"


Same old BS line used to describe anything that bothers someone...
2013-03-24 11:18:22 AM  
1 votes:

dmax: jumac: I going lol when my kids get to middle school and higher.  Lots of school in the area require that the kids turn over their log in info for facebook so that the school can remove anything the think is not good for the school. Any child who doesn't faces detention.  My kids don't have facebook yet they are to young(atm I let them post stuff on mine and us my page for the games).  I have let them post stuff bout when teacher do something stupid and I agree with it(after talking to the teacher to find out what happened). Right now the kids don't know my password as I have it saved on the system so that when they put in my username the system puts in the password for them.  This is how I am going setup the kids facebook pagpes.  So when the school tell my kids that they need the info my kids can say sorry daddy logs me in and I don't know the password.  If the school then calls and demands the info I going reply got a court order?  Then I will tell them if they punish my kids for what I have done they will be talking to a lawyer bout it.  Yes I know the kids could try and setup a facebook account that I don't know bout but the only system they can get on is beside mine so I see what they do when I go to bed the power to that system is turned off and the breaker box is in my bedroom.

And we were worried about the schools being Nazis?


My kids are 8 9 11 atm Its more of i don't want them getting into stuff that is not good for their age.(in regards to the system) As they get older I let them do more when I am not around. As for the school.  sorry as far as I am concerned what happens off school grounds or not at a school event is non of their business. If my kids think their teacher(s) are jerks and after finding out what happened I agree with it sure I let them post bout it. Sorry the school has no control on what I as a parent let my kids do when they are not in school.  If they think they can punish my kids for what I let them do at home they have another thing coming to them.
2013-03-24 09:30:52 AM  
1 votes:
I going lol when my kids get to middle school and higher.  Lots of school in the area require that the kids turn over their log in info for facebook so that the school can remove anything the think is not good for the school. Any child who doesn't faces detention.  My kids don't have facebook yet they are to young(atm I let them post stuff on mine and us my page for the games).  I have let them post stuff bout when teacher do something stupid and I agree with it(after talking to the teacher to find out what happened). Right now the kids don't know my password as I have it saved on the system so that when they put in my username the system puts in the password for them.  This is how I am going setup the kids facebook pagpes.  So when the school tell my kids that they need the info my kids can say sorry daddy logs me in and I don't know the password.  If the school then calls and demands the info I going reply got a court order?  Then I will tell them if they punish my kids for what I have done they will be talking to a lawyer bout it.  Yes I know the kids could try and setup a facebook account that I don't know bout but the only system they can get on is beside mine so I see what they do when I go to bed the power to that system is turned off and the breaker box is in my bedroom.
2013-03-24 09:28:55 AM  
1 votes:
So I guess the 1st Amendment is captured at the schoolhouse door?

Glad I got out of high school in 1980.
2013-03-24 09:27:18 AM  
1 votes:
But, but, they signed a code of conduct! It's a legally binding contract!
2013-03-24 09:15:34 AM  
1 votes:
They do know the story behind the creation of Facebook, don't they?  Rating what female students put out is the reason it exists.
2013-03-24 09:04:03 AM  
1 votes:
So, the students face consequences for creating these pages.
What happens when a former or non-student sets up a page?

The FBI?
 
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