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(BBC)   F1 Malaysian Grand Prix Discussion: Vettel on pole, Massa second - out qualifying Alonso again. Mark Webber to start 5th, which really means he'll be racing from 10th after the first lap   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 57
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2013-03-24 07:15:04 AM
0 comments and the race is over
 
2013-03-24 08:14:19 AM
I forgot about it.  Oops.

/fark Vettel
 
2013-03-24 08:19:24 AM
it helps to put the start time of the race in the headline so it gets greened in time
 
2013-03-24 09:12:54 AM
I guess those of us who didn't stay up/wake up to watch this race can use it for the rebroadcast at 3:00?

/no spoilers please
 
2013-03-24 09:34:30 AM

WhyteRaven74: it helps to put the start time of the race in the headline so it gets greened in time


Network and time were originally there. I guess it just wasn't submitted early enough is all. The folks watching the tape delay should be able to discuss it, at least. (So long as nobody is a dick.)

The odd thing is there are other motorsports threads in the queue (Indycar and NASCAR) that were submitted earlier, but have been red-lit. If those don't get a thread, this may wind up being the spot people show up.
 
2013-03-24 09:50:59 AM
Just watched on DVR, Hamilton pulling into the McLaren pits was pretty funny.
 
2013-03-24 09:51:00 AM
Man, Seb is a total farking dick.

Webber was beating him until the hold station order.
Entitled prickface takes advantage of Webber believing he's been ordered to stay behind to pass him
"Apologises" later.  Doesn't matter, still got the victory!

Seb really is becoming the new Schumacher in every way.  Fark him.
 
2013-03-24 09:59:18 AM

DemonEater: Webber was beating him until the hold station order.


I have a bigger issue with Hamilton.
 
2013-03-24 10:11:50 AM

DemonEater: Man, Seb is a total farking dick.

Webber was beating him until the hold station order.
Entitled prickface takes advantage of Webber believing he's been ordered to stay behind to pass him
"Apologises" later.  Doesn't matter, still got the victory!

Seb really is becoming the new Schumacher in every way.  Fark him.



Thanks dick.
 
2013-03-24 10:19:05 AM

WhyteRaven74: DemonEater: Webber was beating him until the hold station order.

I have a bigger issue with Hamilton.


Eh, Hamilton was legitimately ahead most of the race, Rosberg was definitely faster at the end, but Brawn made the "hold station" call.  Rosberg was frustrated, and understandably so, but it was the boss's decision.

Just like at Red Bull, but one guy listened and one didn't.

fatalvenom: Thanks dick.


For spoilers? Race had been over for hours.  If you're watching delayed, avoid discussion threads.  I do.  Hell sometimes on Fark they get spoiled in the headlines, I avoid the tab altogether until I've watched.
 
2013-03-24 10:23:20 AM

DemonEater: Man, Seb is a total farking dick.

Webber was beating him until the hold station order.
Entitled prickface takes advantage of Webber believing he's been ordered to stay behind to pass him
"Apologises" later.  Doesn't matter, still got the victory!

Seb really is becoming the new Schumacher in every way.  Fark him.


Dude! You are NOT allowed to talk about F1 in the F1 thread!

Apologise to everybody here please.
 
2013-03-24 10:27:33 AM

fatalvenom: I guess those of us who didn't stay up/wake up to watch this race can use it for the rebroadcast at 3:00?

/no spoilers please


So... You do not want any discussion about a race that ended  6.5 hours ago on a thread that has been poster for the very purpose of discussing the race. I really have to question who the real dick is here.

Spoiler

1 Vettel
2  Webber
3 Hamilton
 
2013-03-24 10:30:08 AM
The real dick is the team that gave a driver orders not to pass or win a race.
 
2013-03-24 10:33:37 AM
Don't blame the drivers for the team orders politics. The teams are going to use any advantage they can get, and team orders were illegal until a certain team just couldn't play by the rules, and when the FIA shook their finger diMontezebungholio said "Nope, fark that. We want them to be legal again, Jean, can you confirm you understand this message?" And of course Todt changed the rules for Ferrari.

It's almost as if anything wrong with the sport can be traced back to Ferrari.
 
2013-03-24 10:37:38 AM

UNC_Samurai: Don't blame the drivers for the team orders politics. The teams are going to use any advantage they can get, and team orders were illegal until a certain team just couldn't play by the rules, and when the FIA shook their finger diMontezebungholio said "Nope, fark that. We want them to be legal again, Jean, can you confirm you understand this message?" And of course Todt changed the rules for Ferrari.

It's almost as if anything wrong with the sport can be traced back to Ferrari.


Yes Red Bull team orders are now Ferarris fault. Global warming too
 
2013-03-24 10:39:36 AM
T wish Bernie Ecclestone would just die already so F1 could heal.
 
2013-03-24 10:45:40 AM

mikaloyd: T wish Bernie Ecclestone would just die already so F1 could heal.


Just remember, there was a 12-month stretch where there was a good chance Rupert Murdoch could have become a partial owner of FOM; Bernie blocked that.  So it could be much, much worse.
 
2013-03-24 10:49:02 AM

DemonEater: , but it was the boss's decision.


which would be great if not for Hamilton saying his teammate deserved third place. If he felt that way there was nothing stopping him from hitting the brakes late going into one corner and letting him by. Then afterwards going "Whoops, my bad". No one would ever have to know it wasn't a legit screw up.
 
2013-03-24 10:49:50 AM

UNC_Samurai: mikaloyd: T wish Bernie Ecclestone would just die already so F1 could heal.

Just remember, there was a 12-month stretch where there was a good chance Rupert Murdoch could have become a partial owner of FOM; Bernie blocked that.  So it could be much, much worse.


There's only room for one head demon at the top of an organization.
 
2013-03-24 10:57:48 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-24 10:59:57 AM
This is F1. The poll sitter winning isn't a spoiler.
 
2013-03-24 11:06:02 AM

WhyteRaven74: DemonEater: , but it was the boss's decision.

which would be great if not for Hamilton saying his teammate deserved third place. If he felt that way there was nothing stopping him from hitting the brakes late going into one corner and letting him by. Then afterwards going "Whoops, my bad". No one would ever have to know it wasn't a legit screw up.


I think Hamilton was just responding to the tension on the podium at the time. He was probably perfectly fine with the orders (hell... they're probably in his contract in some vague form) but took the opportunity on stage to provide contrast to the big story brewing to his right.

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I hate team orders, but I hate entitled drivers more. Vettel showed he suffers from driver-entitlement-syndrome in a big way -- possibly as big or bigger than Alonso. It's one thing to disobey an order not to pass a slower teammate or call out that you're not going to back off.

Instead this ass tried to use team orders to get them to slow Webber down when Webber was running faster lap times. "He's holding me up!"

When they didn't give him what he wanted, he obviously tried to outrace him and failed.

So it's only when he can't outrace him and can't have him ordered out of the way that he takes advantage of this selective disobedience. That's not wanting to just be allowed to race, that's being a cold and calculating bastard.

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Indy Lights are starting in St. Petersberg on NBCSports. Anyone watching?
 
2013-03-24 11:09:23 AM
i.imgur.com

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-24 11:15:15 AM

Jensaarai: I think Hamilton was just responding to the tension on the podium at the time. He was probably perfectly fine with the orders (hell... they're probably in his contract in some vague form) but took the opportunity on stage to provide contrast to the big story brewing to his right.


Hamilton and Rosberg also have a long history together, so I'm sure they both wanted to patch things up after the race.  Webber I'm sure is starting to see Father Time counting down the number of races he has left to run.  Mark turns 37 this season; the next oldest are Kimi-Bob and Jenson, both of whom have WDC trophies in their case.  Then Fernando and Felipe are only 31; I don't think Fernando has heard the drums yet, and even though it's great to see Felipe ahead of Fernando in the standings this week, he's never going to be the driver he was in 2008 again.  He's lost that...spring...in his step.
 
2013-03-24 11:19:31 AM

UNC_Samurai: Jensaarai: I think Hamilton was just responding to the tension on the podium at the time. He was probably perfectly fine with the orders (hell... they're probably in his contract in some vague form) but took the opportunity on stage to provide contrast to the big story brewing to his right.

Hamilton and Rosberg also have a long history together, so I'm sure they both wanted to patch things up after the race.  Webber I'm sure is starting to see Father Time counting down the number of races he has left to run.  Mark turns 37 this season; the next oldest are Kimi-Bob and Jenson, both of whom have WDC trophies in their case.  Then Fernando and Felipe are only 31; I don't think Fernando has heard the drums yet, and even though it's great to see Felipe ahead of Fernando in the standings this week, he's never going to be the driver he was in 2008 again.  He's lost that...spring...in his step.


Good points. Hopefully we'll get a grumpy old Webber who goes back to mixing it up with Vettel. Friction at team Red Bull would make this championship more fun, and it might teach Vettel a lesson.
 
2013-03-24 11:19:49 AM
F3 rain race is hilarious. Its mayhem out there
 
2013-03-24 11:23:25 AM

Jensaarai: UNC_Samurai: Jensaarai: I think Hamilton was just responding to the tension on the podium at the time. He was probably perfectly fine with the orders (hell... they're probably in his contract in some vague form) but took the opportunity on stage to provide contrast to the big story brewing to his right.

Hamilton and Rosberg also have a long history together, so I'm sure they both wanted to patch things up after the race.  Webber I'm sure is starting to see Father Time counting down the number of races he has left to run.  Mark turns 37 this season; the next oldest are Kimi-Bob and Jenson, both of whom have WDC trophies in their case.  Then Fernando and Felipe are only 31; I don't think Fernando has heard the drums yet, and even though it's great to see Felipe ahead of Fernando in the standings this week, he's never going to be the driver he was in 2008 again.  He's lost that...spring...in his step.

Good points. Hopefully we'll get a grumpy old Webber who goes back to mixing it up with Vettel. Friction at team Red Bull would make this championship more fun, and it might teach Vettel a lesson.


Honestly, if we want competitive balance back in the sport, we may just have to ban Adrian Newey.  Hopefully the major changes next season will upend the playing field.
 
2013-03-24 11:26:37 AM

mikaloyd: F3 rain race is hilarious. Its mayhem out there


Any idea what those tumors on the side of the cars are?
 
2013-03-24 11:51:42 AM
Slimy, slimy racing organization.
 
2013-03-24 12:10:32 PM

The Muthaship: Slimy, slimy racing organization.


I've said it before; every international sporting organization is corrupt as shiat.  Formula 1 just happens to be gentlemanly about making its corruption as transparent and blatant as possible.

/considering the Gen-6 controversy in NASCAR and the utter wasteland that is now WRC, nobody's hands are clean in motorsport
 
2013-03-24 12:13:12 PM

UNC_Samurai: nobody's hands are clean in motorsport


No argument there.  But, the others make it possible to suspend your disbelief.  F1 keeps reminding fans that it's rigged.  They should at least eliminate the on air broadcasts of the radio communications setting the finishing order.
 
2013-03-24 12:29:33 PM

mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: Don't blame the drivers for the team orders politics. The teams are going to use any advantage they can get, and team orders were illegal until a certain team just couldn't play by the rules, and when the FIA shook their finger diMontezebungholio said "Nope, fark that. We want them to be legal again, Jean, can you confirm you understand this message?" And of course Todt changed the rules for Ferrari.

It's almost as if anything wrong with the sport can be traced back to Ferrari.

Yes Red Bull team orders are now Ferarris fault. Global warming too


Team orders being allowed is Ferraris fault. Massa was told to move over for Alonso purely for position and instead of throwing the book at Ferarri the FIA changed the rules saying they were unenforcable. If Ferarri had been fined/sanctioned then the rules would still be on the books and Webber/Vettal/Hamilton/Rosberg could of raced each other.

But Seb was a dick. He was told to hold behind Webber and Webber didn't defend because he knew Seb wasn't going to overtake. Seb was very close to taking out both of them and leaving Redbull with 0 points. Out of all this Rosberg has come out the best as he made his point but made sure of the 3rd and 4th.
 
2013-03-24 12:32:46 PM
So a team "leader" told a driver to bag it at the end of the race?
 
2013-03-24 12:39:21 PM

The Muthaship: UNC_Samurai: nobody's hands are clean in motorsport

No argument there.  But, the others make it possible to suspend your disbelief.  F1 keeps reminding fans that it's rigged.  They should at least eliminate the on air broadcasts of the radio communications setting the finishing order.


F1 isn't rigged, its just a team sport and people tend to forget that. Its about more than just a driver its about both drivers, the pit crew, the designers, managers and sponsors. The constructors champoinship is what keeps the teams solvent so that is what matters.
 
2013-03-24 12:42:23 PM

Norfolking Chance: The Muthaship: UNC_Samurai: nobody's hands are clean in motorsport

No argument there.  But, the others make it possible to suspend your disbelief.  F1 keeps reminding fans that it's rigged.  They should at least eliminate the on air broadcasts of the radio communications setting the finishing order.

F1 isn't rigged, its just a team sport and people tend to forget that. Its about more than just a driver its about both drivers, the pit crew, the designers, managers and sponsors. The constructors champoinship is what keeps the teams solvent so that is what matters.


So the best driver doesn't win?

The #1 driver on the best team wins?
 
2013-03-24 12:42:29 PM
I love that Newey and Webber effectively called Vettel a farkin' coont on live TV, right after the race.
 
2013-03-24 12:44:28 PM

Broktun: Norfolking Chance: The Muthaship: UNC_Samurai: nobody's hands are clean in motorsport

No argument there.  But, the others make it possible to suspend your disbelief.  F1 keeps reminding fans that it's rigged.  They should at least eliminate the on air broadcasts of the radio communications setting the finishing order.

F1 isn't rigged, its just a team sport and people tend to forget that. Its about more than just a driver its about both drivers, the pit crew, the designers, managers and sponsors. The constructors champoinship is what keeps the teams solvent so that is what matters.

So the best driver doesn't win?

The #1 driver on the best team wins?


These days, absolutely.
 
2013-03-24 01:02:19 PM

The Muthaship: UNC_Samurai: nobody's hands are clean in motorsport

No argument there.  But, the others make it possible to suspend your disbelief.  F1 keeps reminding fans that it's rigged.  They should at least eliminate the on air broadcasts of the radio communications setting the finishing order.


Red Bull had P1 and P2. Mercedes had P3 and P4.

Both teams wanted to keep it that way. Of course the drivers wanted the points for themselves, but consider Turkey 2010. And Mark was on fresher, hard tyres. I would have felt an immense amount of schadenfreude had Seb's tyres dropped off the cliff in the last lap.

Seb was a dick. Nico made his point clear, but he drives for Mercedes and he gave Mercedes the result that they needed.

Norfolking Chance: mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: Don't blame the drivers for the team orders politics. The teams are going to use any advantage they can get, and team orders were illegal until a certain team just couldn't play by the rules, and when the FIA shook their finger diMontezebungholio said "Nope, fark that. We want them to be legal again, Jean, can you confirm you understand this message?" And of course Todt changed the rules for Ferrari.

It's almost as if anything wrong with the sport can be traced back to Ferrari.

Yes Red Bull team orders are now Ferarris fault. Global warming too

Team orders being allowed is Ferraris fault. Massa was told to move over for Alonso purely for position and instead of throwing the book at Ferarri the FIA changed the rules saying they were unenforcable. If Ferarri had been fined/sanctioned then the rules would still be on the books and Webber/Vettal/Hamilton/Rosberg could of raced each other.


FYI, ITYM "could have".

But Seb was a dick. He was told to hold behind Webber and Webber didn't defend because he knew Seb wasn't going to overtake. Seb was very close to taking out both of them and leaving Redbull with 0 points. Out of all this Rosberg has come out the best as he made his point but made sure of the 3rd and 4th.

This.
 
2013-03-24 01:05:23 PM
One thing to add to the RBR mess is their director Helmut Marko just said on BBC1 that while RBR did indeed give team orders today, at least they're not a team that gives team orders, like Mercedes did today. Christ would Rick James be proud.

To be fair, his point seemed to be that he was proud that an RBR driver (Vettel) refused team orders when they weren't in his favor. And that Mercedes (Rosberg) is weak for not being the same way.
 
2013-03-24 01:08:40 PM

digistil: Broktun: Norfolking Chance: The Muthaship: UNC_Samurai: nobody's hands are clean in motorsport

No argument there.  But, the others make it possible to suspend your disbelief.  F1 keeps reminding fans that it's rigged.  They should at least eliminate the on air broadcasts of the radio communications setting the finishing order.

F1 isn't rigged, its just a team sport and people tend to forget that. Its about more than just a driver its about both drivers, the pit crew, the designers, managers and sponsors. The constructors champoinship is what keeps the teams solvent so that is what matters.

So the best driver doesn't win?

The #1 driver on the best team wins?

These days, absolutely.


No, the driver in the best position to win will get the support of the team to win. Most of the time thats the best driver.

Its all about maximising the constructors points and the drivers championship takes second place. Red Bull, Mclaren and Mercedes run with two strong drivers to give them the best chance of points, Ferrari have a primary driver to get points with the help of the 2nd, Lotus, Williams and Force India have one strong driver and one to bring in the money to be able to compete.
 
2013-03-24 01:13:04 PM
Vettel acting like an immature douche? I'm shocked!!!
 
2013-03-24 01:18:18 PM
Here's video of Hamliton pulling into the McLaren pit. Funny reaction by Hamilton's girlfriend.
 
2013-03-24 01:43:06 PM

carnifex2005: Here's video of Hamliton pulling into the McLaren pit. Funny reaction by Hamilton's girlfriend.


Blocked by F1
 
2013-03-24 02:10:01 PM

Norfolking Chance: Its all about maximising the constructors points and the drivers championship takes second place. Red Bull, Mclaren and Mercedes run with two strong drivers to give them the best chance of points, Ferrari have a primary driver to get points with the help of the 2nd, Lotus, Williams and Force India have one strong driver and one to bring in the money to be able to compete.


The cost of doing business in F1 is, you have two types of drivers:  paid drivers, and pay drivers.  One set are good enough that their services are in demand, and the other are important/popular enough to have the backing of sponsors.  The latter is why a Lada runner like Petrov ever got a seat in an F1.  Bruno Senna lost his seat to Grosjean because Ricochet Romain brought a check from Total S.A.
 
2013-03-24 02:11:37 PM
I wish Webber had channeled a racer from the Alan Jones/James Hunt days and just gone full bore on insanely foul non-corporate language on the podium and in interviews. Or even better, pulled a Senna on Irvine moment and punched the little German twerp.

And I used to like Vettel, but he can't win from anywhere but the front row.

I was a ferrari/Schumi fan, so for me to dislike you, you have to reach a level of epic dickery beyond even that. Congrats Seb.

Favorite driver: Button
Favorite team: Ferrari
Favorite JDGAF guy: KIMI!!!
 
2013-03-24 02:40:56 PM

Norfolking Chance: Lotus, Williams and Force India have one strong driver and one to bring in the money to be able to compete.


Williams has a strong driver?  Not sold on Bottas yet.
 
2013-03-24 02:45:23 PM

Guelph35: Norfolking Chance: Lotus, Williams and Force India have one strong driver and one to bring in the money to be able to compete.

Williams has a strong driver?  Not sold on Bottas yet.


Maybe he meant Disaster?

Hard to believe that from about 1990-97 Williams were a top team.
 
2013-03-24 02:54:07 PM

Norfolking Chance: Out of all this Rosberg has come out the best as he made his point but made sure of the 3rd and 4th.


Vettel has come out of this the best - he got maximum points. That'll be what matters come the end of the season. Rosberg showed he doesn't have the ruthlessness to make it as a champion, but he is a compliant no. 2 driver.
 
2013-03-24 03:22:14 PM
I wasn't able to watch the race live. I avoided race results all morning, waiting for the rebroadcast on NBCSN. During the Indycar victory lane celebration, right before the F1 rebroadcast, they FARKING SCROLLED THE F1 RESULTS!

assholes.
 
2013-03-24 04:22:53 PM
Fark Vettel
 
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