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(Dayton Daily News)   Nine-year-old boy outgeeks us all, is named chess master   (daytondailynews.com) divider line 44
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2013-03-24 12:23:28 AM
Asian?

....yup
 
2013-03-24 12:53:35 AM
Any other Farkers have Chessmaster for NES?
 
2013-03-24 01:15:15 AM
Not the teensiest chance of him burning out.
 
2013-03-24 01:37:56 AM
This kid's got himself a full scholarship to the college with the best chess team in the country - UMBC.
 
2013-03-24 02:24:33 AM
Mind you he doesn't actually play chess. That's just his name: "Chess Master".

Much like Doctor Science.
 
2013-03-24 03:28:39 AM
So will he manage to dodge bullets next?

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2013-03-24 04:27:27 AM
Yeah it's all fun and games until you get caught polishing your Bishop under the table....
 
2013-03-24 04:28:31 AM
Chess Master = Forever alone..   :-(
 
2013-03-24 04:29:09 AM

Mugato: Asian?


+10 racial bonus to memorization and rote performance
 
2013-03-24 04:29:26 AM
Chess master, pfft, I only care about the Bots Master
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2013-03-24 04:29:43 AM
I love how human minds work. Any modern computer can beat him, but he can do better than any human. Nice!

I try to be the same way in my field, but just try.
 
2013-03-24 04:40:19 AM
Awonder?  Really...Awonder?

And their surprised that he's a chess master at nine.

My real name is Adouche.
 
2013-03-24 05:02:16 AM
But did he get his certificate?
 
2013-03-24 05:11:53 AM

bmihura: I love how human minds work. Any modern computer can beat him, but he can do better than any human. Nice!

I try to be the same way in my field, but just try.


Not necessarily... he is now the newest and youngest of many human chess masters. In fact, his record isn't mentioned in the article. He's probably lost many, many times, and most likely will lose again.

But he's now a lifetime chess master, so he's got that going for him.

Congrats to him!
 
2013-03-24 05:38:44 AM
Good for him, that's pretty cool.  As somebody who enjoys the game but is only ok w/ rare flashes of brilliance I have to say, Chess is a cruel mistress.
 
2013-03-24 05:48:17 AM
It still amazes me that the human ego is driven by such trivial achievements, and that people equate intellect with mastery of a game whose movements against laymen can easily be predicted.
 
2013-03-24 05:57:59 AM

wildsnowllama: But did he get his certificate?



Here's your certificate. Fill it out. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a piece of paper. It's a xerox of a piece of paper. Do you want another one?... Do you want 10?... Do you want 20?... 30?... I've got a whole briefcase full of them. They don't mean anything though.
 
2013-03-24 06:09:22 AM
I really can't help but wonder how much of all those 'masters' out there are just a product of poor competition at the tournament in question. I got my title at  FIDE competition in vienna when I was 25 with a final rating of 2330 and never entered a (big) competition since.

Also, if I remember correctly America uses their own 'metric' which I know little about except that it uses a variable to account for superior performances which results in higher scores than FIDE would award - but since it's still ELO based I'm assuming that their cutoff to what constitutes a master is lower than the international standard. So the kid might be a national master or an international expert at best.

And on a side note - women in chess still get the condescending 200 rating genderbonus just for showing up. Which I've always found funny.
 
2013-03-24 07:10:18 AM
ts3.mm.bing.net

This kid?
 
2013-03-24 07:28:27 AM
"Why not chess PhD?"
 
2013-03-24 07:51:09 AM
I'm quite sure that this kid is simply playing by memorizing the opening book.  If you can memorize the 1st 5 moves perfectly (which admittedly is a lot), you pretty much will never lose.

I've played against guys like that before.  Like, they aren't really even playing the game using any skill other than a ridiculous memory.  Doesn't make them good players.  But it does make them annoying jerks.
 
2013-03-24 08:01:55 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Mugato: Asian?

+10 racial bonus to memorization and rote performance


Um, hello? I implied that Asians are good at chess. How is that racist? I mean not like they are with ping pong but still.
 
2013-03-24 08:29:04 AM

puffy999: It still amazes me that the human ego is driven by such trivial achievements, and that people equate intellect with mastery of a game whose movements against laymen can easily be predicted.


What's interesting about chess is that, after you've mastered the basics and can think beyond 3 or 4 moves, the way humans and computers approach it is very different. Humans dont use brute force to see dozens of moves ahead, they apply concepts plus deep analysis of a subset of possibilities. Understanding the differences is important.
 
2013-03-24 08:29:37 AM
lol at "I bet he loses a lot"

Umm... if he's playing people around his rank, he'll be losing 50% of the time.
 
2013-03-24 09:20:26 AM
sendtodave:
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This kid?



I'm not sure what this means.  Most young chess players don't care if what they like is "cool" with the other kids.  That's one of their most admirable qualities.
 
2013-03-24 09:42:50 AM

Fausts Fist: Also, if I remember correctly America uses their own 'metric' which I know little about except that it uses a variable to account for superior performances which results in higher scores than FIDE would award - but since it's still ELO based I'm assuming that their cutoff to what constitutes a master is lower than the international standard. So the kid might be a national master or an international expert at best.

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Wot's this, then?

/yeah, I know about Arpad Elo
//chess geek, maxed out at 1701
 
2013-03-24 09:44:49 AM
I see this all of the time.  It is his brother on his account and he has modded chess pieces anyway.
 
2013-03-24 09:44:49 AM
Alright, lets see how the chess master fares against my Wookie.
 
2013-03-24 11:10:04 AM
Yeah, but how fast can he solve a Rubik's Cube?
 
2013-03-24 11:20:33 AM
But can he beat this guy?
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2013-03-24 11:35:45 AM

EchoMike: wildsnowllama: But did he get his certificate?


Here's your certificate. Fill it out. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a piece of paper. It's a xerox of a piece of paper. Do you want another one?... Do you want 10?... Do you want 20?... 30?... I've got a whole briefcase full of them. They don't mean anything though.


Get out of my house!
 
2013-03-24 12:33:23 PM

durbnpoisn: I'm quite sure that this kid is simply playing by memorizing the opening book.  If you can memorize the 1st 5 moves perfectly (which admittedly is a lot), you pretty much will never lose.

I've played against guys like that before.  Like, they aren't really even playing the game using any skill other than a ridiculous memory.  Doesn't make them good players.  But it does make them annoying jerks.


Well, in some of the more complicated openings like the "Sicilian" and the "Lopez" (trivia:not named after Jennifer Lopez) you have to memorize 6-7 moves sometimes, but it's worth it when you're across from that grandmaster and they're floored when you move the castle unexpectedly on your 7th move and they know they're doomed.
 
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2013-03-24 12:43:38 PM
Meh, I'm not jealous. Now... if he was a playboy billionaire I'd be jealous.
 
2013-03-24 12:53:36 PM

bmihura: I love how human minds work. Any modern computer can beat him, but he can do better than any human. Nice!

I try to be the same way in my field, but just try.


Let it wop, let it wop, let it wop on down.
 
2013-03-24 01:20:22 PM

durbnpoisn: I'm quite sure that this kid is simply playing by memorizing the opening book.  If you can memorize the 1st 5 moves perfectly (which admittedly is a lot), you pretty much will never lose.

I've played against guys like that before.  Like, they aren't really even playing the game using any skill other than a ridiculous memory.  Doesn't make them good players.  But it does make them annoying jerks.


No. That's not even close to being accurate.
 
2013-03-24 02:48:09 PM
I stopped playing when my rating couldn't go any higher. I was playing at 2550, and there were rarely people within 200 of me on tournament day. So I'd have to win 20 games to move up one point. But if I lost, I would lose 25 points.

Now I just play simultaneous semi-blind games at exhibitions for fun. I usually play 20+ simul.
 
2013-03-24 03:18:49 PM
If you're a 2500+ player, and there's no player within 200 points, you could use those tourneys as a personal ATM most of the time - at no risk (most will let titled players in for free for the 'prestige').

Either that, or if you're just looking for rating points (I have no idea why), you go to better tourneys.


/a lowly 2184
 
2013-03-24 04:18:51 PM
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2013-03-24 04:58:06 PM
Putin looks more like Fearless Leader than Boris Badenov doens't he?
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2013-03-24 05:00:39 PM
Nothing like posting to the wrong thread...
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2013-03-24 05:54:04 PM
Chess is simple and mastered by computers.  Learn to play Go instead.
 
2013-03-24 07:07:19 PM
I enjoy Go, and they've really improved computer Go.  The strongest program is a 6th dan now. It's just a matter of time.


And chess is not simple.
 
2013-03-24 10:15:30 PM

RobSeace: EchoMike: wildsnowllama: But did he get his certificate?


Here's your certificate. Fill it out. It doesn't mean anything. It's just a piece of paper. It's a xerox of a piece of paper. Do you want another one?... Do you want 10?... Do you want 20?... 30?... I've got a whole briefcase full of them. They don't mean anything though.

Get out of my house!


To put a child in a position to care about winning and not to prepare him is wrong.
 
2013-03-25 05:40:00 PM
he may be good at chess, but i bet i could kick his ass.
 
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