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(I get $10)   Some basement dweller named Polyakov wins the $3M Fundamental Physics Prize. FARK: to get his losing peers to shut up, they toss Hawking a $3M bone, and another $3M to the 300,000 folks that "discovered the Higgs-like particle" at CERN's LHC   (fundamentalphysicsprize.org) divider line 22
    More: Silly, Fundamental Physics Prize, Alexander Polyakov, LHC, physics, quantum field theory, Sarah Brightman, nonprofit corporation, Ernst & Young  
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2013-03-23 02:05:12 PM  
If Obama had not closed the tevatron by slashing the 35 million to run it , the US would have had another first in the world. The tevatron still is better suited to explore the higgs
 
2013-03-23 02:52:13 PM  
Of course Witten and Guth were going to vote for Polyakov.

No surprise here.
Move on.
 
2013-03-23 03:28:41 PM  
What part of a Fundamental Physics Prize trophy might look like:

english.ruvr.ru

"The award is made of silver, an artistically significant material for a physics prize, as silver materialized from exploding stars."

Did Shirley McClaine come up with that?
 
2013-03-23 03:33:31 PM  
 What's funny about the Fundamental Physics Prize is that the committee is made up of past winners. This causes a feedback loop... since the earlier prizes were given for string theory, the committee is now a bunch of string theorists selecting other string theorists every year (and sometimes cosmologists, mathematicians, etc.).
 
2013-03-23 04:17:36 PM  

eurotrader: If Obama had not closed the tevatron by slashing the 35 million to run it , the US would have had another first in the world. The tevatron still is better suited to explore the higgs


And what about the SCC, cancelled in 1993?
 
2013-03-23 04:21:15 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Of course Witten and Guth were going to vote for Polyakov.

No surprise here.
Move on.


Apparently I need to change the mental image I have of you from

www.s2ki.com

to some combination of

sciencewritingblog.files.wordpress.com

and

www.grenswetenschap.nl
 
2013-03-23 04:28:26 PM  
The 2013 Fundamental Physics Prize winner was selected from the list of 2013 Physics Frontiers Prize winners by the Selection Committee, which is solely comprised of prior recipients of the Fundamental Physics Prize and includes Nima Arkani-Hamed, Alan Guth, Alexei Kitaev, Maxim Kontsevich, Andrei Linde, Juan Maldacena, Nathan Seiberg, Ashoke Sen and Edward Witten.


I'd watch out for Witten.... his name is too boring.
 
2013-03-23 04:35:00 PM  

DeltaPunch: What's funny about the Fundamental Physics Prize is that the committee is made up of past winners. This causes a feedback loop... since the earlier prizes were given for string theory, the committee is now a bunch of string theorists selecting other string theorists every year (and sometimes cosmologists, mathematicians, etc.).


Basically becomes an echo chamber. Where people keep shouting ideas and keep making stuff up and proving it theoretically. Call the rest of the science community when you can prove any of your theories are correct with physical experiments.
 
2013-03-23 04:43:34 PM  
Cuz physics is FUNdamental!
 
2013-03-23 04:44:48 PM  
I can't wait 'til string theory is debunked.
 
2013-03-23 04:46:00 PM  

ActionJoe: Call the rest of the science community when you can prove any of your theories are correct with physical experiments.


This.
 
2013-03-23 04:47:39 PM  

ActionJoe: DeltaPunch: What's funny about the Fundamental Physics Prize is that the committee is made up of past winners. This causes a feedback loop... since the earlier prizes were given for string theory, the committee is now a bunch of string theorists selecting other string theorists every year (and sometimes cosmologists, mathematicians, etc.).

Basically becomes an echo chamber. Where people keep shouting ideas and keep making stuff up and proving it theoretically. Call the rest of the science community when you can prove any of your theories are correct with physical experiments.


String theory is very interesting, but their critics are right in saying that its pretty much untestable...

However, and correct me if I am wrong, isn't that the purpose of looking for a graviton? Because they expect it to carry information of the other dimensions and confirm string theory?

Of course as long as this is not confirmed somehow, you cannot prove it is not wrong in the first place.
 
2013-03-23 05:55:37 PM  

Dinobot: graviton


i2.kym-cdn.com

/just kidding
//i love invoking that little pest in physics threads
 
2013-03-23 06:26:06 PM  

DeltaPunch: What's funny about the Fundamental Physics Prize is that the committee is made up of past winners. This causes a feedback loop... since the earlier prizes were given for string theory, the committee is now a bunch of string theorists selecting other string theorists every year (and sometimes cosmologists, mathematicians, etc.).


Ah, that also explains the stringiness of the trophy.
 
2013-03-23 06:31:10 PM  

whatshisname: eurotrader: If Obama had not closed the tevatron by slashing the 35 million to run it , the US would have had another first in the world. The tevatron still is better suited to explore the higgs

And what about the SCC, cancelled in 1993?


Tevatron was showing results  and it's detection fields are better suited for range than LHC and it is already built


FizixJunkee: I can't wait 'til string theory is debunked.



It already has been. It was easier to rename  supergravity theory   than explain what was wrong with original string theory. There has to be 11 for it to work.
 
2013-03-23 07:10:09 PM  

eurotrader: There has to be 11 for it to work.


www.chicagonow.com
 
2013-03-23 07:36:21 PM  
eurotrader:


FizixJunkee: I can't wait 'til string theory is debunked.


It already has been. It was easier to rename  supergravity theory   than explain what was wrong with original string theory. There has to be 11 for it to work.


I know so many physics PhD students working on string theory and super gravity. Lord only knows what they're going to do for employment once they graduate.
 
2013-03-23 08:48:27 PM  

ActionJoe: Call the rest of the science community when you can prove any of your theories are correct with physical experiments.


Einstein had zero proof he was right about anything to do with special relativity for years. Then comes general relativity. If not for one physicist who was willing to push the limits of what can be done with observations of stars during an eclipse, any proof would've had to wait quite a while. Today confirming relativity is trivial, put an atomic clock in the basement, put an atomic clock on say the fourth or fifth floor, wait a little bit. And you'll find the clocks running at different rates exactly as the theory says they will.
 
2013-03-23 08:51:39 PM  

FizixJunkee: I can't wait 'til string theory is debunked.


Well, get busy and debunk it.
 
2013-03-23 09:02:49 PM  

WhyteRaven74: FizixJunkee: I can't wait 'til string theory is debunked.

Well, get busy and debunk it.


I have farking interest in confirming or debunking string theory.  There's more interesting physics out there.
 
2013-03-23 09:03:24 PM  

FizixJunkee: WhyteRaven74: FizixJunkee: I can't wait 'til string theory is debunked.

Well, get busy and debunk it.

I have no farking interest in confirming or debunking string theory.  There's more interesting physics out there.


FTFM
 
2013-03-24 01:42:43 PM  

WhyteRaven74: ActionJoe: Call the rest of the science community when you can prove any of your theories are correct with physical experiments.

Einstein had zero proof he was right about anything to do with special relativity for years. Then comes general relativity. If not for one physicist who was willing to push the limits of what can be done with observations of stars during an eclipse, any proof would've had to wait quite a while. Today confirming relativity is trivial, put an atomic clock in the basement, put an atomic clock on say the fourth or fifth floor, wait a little bit. And you'll find the clocks running at different rates exactly as the theory says they will.


He had zero proof but he had physical experiments that could be used to test his ideas. He had to wait so long because to test one of his theories required a solar eclipse to view light bending around our Sun. His two other experiments were also physically possible but only required better accuracy to prove. String Theory has no physical experiments that can be used, they are all hypothetical situations at sizes that are physically impossible to observe.

I'm all for people going for new ideas but if you provide experiments that will be physically impossible, I am not going to take you seriously.
 
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