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(MLS Soccer)   The soccer team from sunny Costa Rica may file a protest after losing to the US in a blinding Colorado snowstorm   (m.mlssoccer.com) divider line 81
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2013-03-23 11:55:12 PM
Leading progressive legislation on marijuana, guns, civil unions and now the state helps the US Soccer team...is there anything Colorado CAN'T do?
 
2013-03-23 11:59:18 PM

the1hatman: rcf1105: The US soccer team always has to go play in heat and humidity in Mexico and Central America, and high altitude in Mexico City. About time we got some homefield advantage.

Exactly! They expect the US squad to occasionally play these games in parts of Latin America or the Caribbean during our winter (their summer) when the temp is 100+  but whine over a little snow here? If I were in any way associated with Costa Rica's program I would be begging everyone else around me to take the loss and shut up quick. Crying about it after is such a gutless thing to do. Pansies!


Other than the fact that Central America is in the Northern Hemisphere, I agree with your point. When you're acclimated to the cold and go to a hot, humid climate without time to adjust, it takes a hard physical toll on your body. If this game was in Costa Rica, the US team would have been wearing down by the middle of the second half.
 
2013-03-24 12:04:02 AM
Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.
 
2013-03-24 12:21:12 AM

TheKnownUniverse: I enjoyed it. Soccer in the snow is unpredictable and fun. And with FIFA considering moving the 2022 Qatar World Cup to winter...do it for Russia 2018! Of course, Germany might have a problem with Russia in winter. :/


I think the French also will have problems with the Russian winter...especially if the Russians burn the stadium down before the game

Now, the Brits lucked out with the Crimea now with Ukraine
 
2013-03-24 12:27:16 AM
If the Costa Ricans expect us to play on that goat pasture they call Saprissa while being pelted by bags of urine and shiat then they can deal with a little bit of snow when they come to a country that isn't a third world hellhole.

Popcorn Johnny: It was sort of disappointing that none of the players made snow angels after the game.



I saw at least one player doing that during the game lol
 
2013-03-24 12:54:23 AM

Wadded Beef: Leading progressive legislation on marijuana, guns, civil unions and now the state helps the US Soccer team...is there anything Colorado CAN'T do?


Keep out Texans.
 
2013-03-24 01:06:48 AM
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2013-03-24 02:36:00 AM

germ78: the1hatman: rcf1105: The US soccer team always has to go play in heat and humidity in Mexico and Central America, and high altitude in Mexico City. About time we got some homefield advantage.

Exactly! They expect the US squad to occasionally play these games in parts of Latin America or the Caribbean during our winter (their summer) when the temp is 100+  but whine over a little snow here? If I were in any way associated with Costa Rica's program I would be begging everyone else around me to take the loss and shut up quick. Crying about it after is such a gutless thing to do. Pansies!

Other than the fact that Central America is in the Northern Hemisphere, I agree with your point. When you're acclimated to the cold and go to a hot, humid climate without time to adjust, it takes a hard physical toll on your body. If this game was in Costa Rica, the US team would have been wearing down by the middle of the second half.


I was including South America in that as well but yea, the overall point about the local weather wherever you play is always a factor so suck it up.

Served in Central America twice. March is part of their warm, dry season while still wintry in most of the US
 
2013-03-24 03:39:51 AM

ongbok: FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??

This.
Who was the genuis that decided to schedule this game in Colorado?


(a) altitude with the Mexico game Tuesday and (b) possibility of cold weather.

The US always schedules cold games when possible, to give them an advantage against sides that aren't used to it.  Assuming Costa Rica loses their appeal, this was the ideal situation for the US and gave them the best shot to win.
 
2013-03-24 04:03:32 AM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


I think that's exactly what they knew. And they knew they were playing Not Canada. And they knew they had white jerseys on hand.

This was revenge for all those times the US has had to travel to Ciudad La Bumfark and play on pitches that are half-rock, half-mud in front of crowds who remember the name William Walker even if the US doesn't.
 
2013-03-24 04:52:11 AM
You know who else something something something football in the snow?

i.azcentral.com
 
2013-03-24 10:41:43 AM
Is anybody surprised that CR is protesting after a loss to the US team?
 
2013-03-24 11:21:45 AM
I protest that we have to play on Costa Rica's shiatty field every time we go and play there. Or is that Puerto Rico? One of them has a field worse than a Zimbabwe elementary school.
 
2013-03-24 11:24:39 AM

Gosling: This was revenge for all those times the US has had to travel to Ciudad La Bumfark and play on pitches that are half-rock, half-mud in front of crowds who remember the name William Walker even if the US doesn't


Even though Costa Rica has that brand spanking new national stadium, I wouldn't be surprised if they scheduled the return match for that craphole Saprissa Stadium with the bouncy artificial turf.
 
2013-03-24 11:33:59 AM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


This by a mile high
 
2013-03-24 11:41:52 AM

ScouserDuck: I protest that we have to play on Costa Rica's shiatty field every time we go and play there. Or is that Puerto Rico? One of them has a field worse than a Zimbabwe elementary school.


It's CR. Estadio Saprissa or some shiat like that. It's terrible. May as well play on farking concrete.
 
2013-03-24 11:45:00 AM

nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.


I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.  In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.
 
2013-03-24 12:17:41 PM
Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.
 
2013-03-24 12:41:14 PM

FLMountainMan: nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.

I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.  In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.


There have been guys like that coming out of the US. Like Freddy Adu. You need a hell of lot more than just raw athleticism to make it in football.

SlothB77: Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.


Yeah yeah this argument comes up all the time. Of course a ripped NFL player would never make it to the half time alive. They are not going to be stopping the game every three minutes so they can catch their breath with some oxygen.
 
2013-03-24 12:43:15 PM

PDid: Wadded Beef: Leading progressive legislation on marijuana, guns, civil unions and now the state helps the US Soccer team...is there anything Colorado CAN'T do?

Keep out Texans.


Ah, but the good Texans stay. Then they become Coloradans.
 
2013-03-24 01:39:05 PM

SlothB77: Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.


The guys you need are not just the ones who can run, but the ones who can juke, deke, fake out their man, maybe with enough of a vertical to get their head on the ball. Any arm-related skills are irrelevant unless you're in goal (and the US is a goalkeeper breeding ground as it is; for that all we need are some leftover wide receivers who can kick a little bit. That's where Chad Johnson ought to have tried out when he rang up the then- Kansas City Wizards). Luis Scola would be a good option.
 
2013-03-24 02:04:06 PM
Football (soccer) has never been a fair weather sport.
 
2013-03-24 03:31:31 PM

rka: Generation_D: My question was not why play in the Front Range area in March, it was why not play it at the Broncos home stadium, the one with heater coils and regular experience in dealing with snow, like having more than one snow plow.

The heating under the Broncos field isn't enough to melt snow. It's just enough to keep the soil warm enough to promote grass growth year round.


And to my understanding to keep the  ground from freezing solid.
 
2013-03-24 06:07:26 PM
Cold weather + creative locating within the US to prevent 'home' games from becoming 'away' games.
 
2013-03-24 09:12:27 PM

Halli: FLMountainMan: nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.

I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.  In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.

There have been guys like that coming out of the US. Like Freddy Adu. You need a hell of lot more than just raw athleticism to make it in football.

SlothB77: Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.

Yeah yeah this argument comes up all the time. Of course a ripped NFL player would never make it to the half time alive. They are not going to be stopping the game every three minutes so they can catch their breath with some oxygen.


Those ripped players will have no trouble with making it through the game with their conditioning, the ones who will be sucking air are the linemen with 20-30lbs hanging over their belts.
 
2013-03-24 09:52:38 PM

FLMountainMan: nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.

I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.


So your team mates and opponents suck?

In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.

Yeah there's a big gap between the big American sports and the big Global sports. This infographic is a good starting point:

news.bbcimg.co.uk

So your average rugby player runs 4.35 miles in 80 minutes of play, while your average American football player runs 0.19 miles in 60 minutes of play.

According to this article, the average distance run by players in the Premier League is almost 7.3 miles in 90 minutes of play.

I've never seen a basketball game, but the courts are tiny and the games are pretty short, aren't they? And am I wrong in thinking that substitutions are unlimited? I've just glanced over the rules on wikipedia, so apologies if I'm in error, but a basketball player wanting to play football would surely need to work on stamina training.
 
2013-03-24 10:27:10 PM

iron de havilland: I've never seen a basketball game, but the courts are tiny and the games are pretty short, aren't they? And am I wrong in thinking that substitutions are unlimited? I've just glanced over the rules on wikipedia, so apologies if I'm in error, but a basketball player wanting to play football would surely need to work on stamina training.


You've obviously never played the game either, you need to run up and down the court and have to play both offense and defense. There is a substantial amount of running and stamina is very important. The court being tiny means there is less standing around because you need to pretty much always be active during the game. Soccer might take more stamina, but I've played both sports, and I wouldn't say that basketball is too far off when it comes to needing stamina. Basketball is incredibly tiring.
 
2013-03-24 10:43:10 PM

TheJoe03: iron de havilland: I've never seen a basketball game, but the courts are tiny and the games are pretty short, aren't they? And am I wrong in thinking that substitutions are unlimited? I've just glanced over the rules on wikipedia, so apologies if I'm in error, but a basketball player wanting to play football would surely need to work on stamina training.

You've obviously never played the game either, you need to run up and down the court and have to play both offense and defense.


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There is a substantial amount of running and stamina is very important. The court being tiny means there is less standing around because you need to pretty much always be active during the game.

Yes, but there isn't a lot of standing around in football's top class. Wikipedia can educate you on total football, tiki-taka and Brasil's retaining of the original world cup.

Apparently Garrincha lost his virginity to a donkey.

Soccer might take more stamina, but I've played both sports, and I wouldn't say that basketball is too far off when it comes to needing stamina. Basketball is incredibly tiring.

So how long does a basketball game last? Google suggests 48 minutes, less than half the play time of football.
 
2013-03-24 10:49:59 PM
I'm not saying basketball players require as much stamina as soccer players, just that there isn't that much of a disparity and if guys like Kobe and LeBron played soccer instead of basketball, they would probably be pretty dominate. Stamina wouldn't be as important for those guys to learn compared to dribbling and shooting with their feet instead of hands. Much of the other forms of agility found in soccer is very similar to what is seen in basketball. Basketball is basically soccer for tall people that use their hands. Out of all the big 4 North American sports, basketball players would have the easiest transition (well guards and small forwards would work, centers wouldn't). 

/the pace of a basketball game pretty much forces the quarters to be 12 minutes, any more time would be unnecessary. Plus football adds up to an hour but still requires less stamina than basketball, so I think the length of the game doesn't really tell the whole story.
 
2013-03-25 05:36:59 AM

steamingpile: Those ripped players will have no trouble with making it through the game with their conditioning, the ones who will be sucking air are the linemen with 20-30lbs hanging over their belts.


They take a couple of sprints every now and then. They don't exactly run 10 kilometers per game.
 
2013-03-25 08:35:33 AM
Check this out for snow football action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d48a6MDmCBM

They started with an orange ball, so it could be visible in the conditions, but it broke part way through the match. To fill the void they apparently just played team Irish dancing for the rest of the game.
 
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