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(MLS Soccer)   The soccer team from sunny Costa Rica may file a protest after losing to the US in a blinding Colorado snowstorm   (m.mlssoccer.com) divider line 81
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2013-03-23 03:02:39 PM
Snow soccer should be an Olympic event.
 
2013-03-23 03:07:28 PM
The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.

/the game was stopped for several minutes just to clear the air on that issue.
//madness, though, I will admit.
 
2013-03-23 03:08:05 PM
You want to call your sport football, then get used to playing in football weather.
 
2013-03-23 04:34:53 PM
I didn't watch the match, but I assume both teams were playing in the same conditions?
 
2013-03-23 04:54:59 PM

Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.


I was sympathetic until I read that.  F*ck 'em...sore losers
 
2013-03-23 05:17:16 PM
I saw the last few minutes. I was impressed that anyone could play soccer in those conditions.
 
2013-03-23 05:30:10 PM

downstairs: I didn't watch the match, but I assume both teams were playing in the same conditions?


Heh yeah, and if there were a pack of wolves on the field that would have been OK as well, as long as they went equally after every one. ;)
 
2013-03-23 05:32:42 PM

Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.

/the game was stopped for several minutes just to clear the air on that issue.
//madness, though, I will admit.


Yep.  I was really surprised that they didn't choose to bail given they were down a goal at that point.  Crazy game to watch though.
 
2013-03-23 05:33:43 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.

I was sympathetic until I read that.  F*ck 'em...sore losers


I'm betting you the decision to play was made by the coach and then after the result the Costa Rican football association back in Costa Rica had some words with him.
 
2013-03-23 05:34:18 PM

Anderson's Pooper: You want to call your sport football, then get used to playing in football weather.


Damned right.  Nut up posers or go home
 
2013-03-23 05:35:04 PM
All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??
 
2013-03-23 05:45:47 PM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


Apparently they have a game in Mexico City in a few weeks and wanted to get acclimated to the elevation.
 
2013-03-23 05:47:18 PM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


This.
Who was the genuis that decided to schedule this game in Colorado?
 
2013-03-23 05:55:54 PM
The ref considered stopping the game, but the players on both sides would have none of it. They would have had to play another 90 the next day. None of them wanted to have to get pumped up for another cold game then play again on Tuesday
 
2013-03-23 05:56:23 PM

ongbok: FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??

This.
Who was the genuis that decided to schedule this game in Colorado?


I don't know, but genius is right.  Snow soccer is AWESOME!

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2013-03-23 05:57:33 PM

Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.

/the game was stopped for several minutes just to clear the air on that issue.
//madness, though, I will admit.


If you passed on an opportunity to suspend the game then shut up and accept your loss.
 
2013-03-23 06:02:13 PM

Torrent of Rubbish: Apparently they have a game in Mexico City in a few weeks and wanted to get acclimated to the elevation.


If by a few weeks you mean Tuesday then sure.
 
2013-03-23 06:06:48 PM
My question was not why play in the Front Range area in March, it was why not play it at the Broncos home stadium, the one with heater coils and regular experience in dealing with snow, like having more than one snow plow.

Instead they play this thing at Dick's Sporting Goods Park where 2 guys with shovels was the ground crew.
Even better when you consider the Colorado Rapids are owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, who could absolutely have afforded equipping his park with the same snow melting heater coils used in every NFL and EPL and other European leagues fields worldwide.

MLS looked like a pissant outfit to the world, but hey if it helps the US get a victory then sure why not.

And the other posters are right: About in the 55th - 60th minute, the referee was about to suspend play and both team captains talked him out of it.
 
kth
2013-03-23 06:12:18 PM

spawn73: downstairs: I didn't watch the match, but I assume both teams were playing in the same conditions?

Heh yeah, and if there were a pack of wolves on the field that would have been OK as well, as long as they went equally after every one. ;)


I would totally watch that.

I'm glad we left Denver yesterday morning, when the getting was good.
 
2013-03-23 06:16:09 PM
It was a fun game, glad I happened onto it while flipping channels.
 
2013-03-23 06:16:55 PM
If both teams decided to play on despite the weather and the field conditions, then nobody should have the right to complain.  I guess since Costa Rica lost, they're going to go and whine about the weather instead of beating themselves on the head for poor decision making skills.
Hey, if they played soccer on Isla Nublar, they would have had to face these guys.  Call the game off or not?
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2013-03-23 06:30:10 PM
Weather's Part Of The Game. Man Up Pussies.

/Anyone Know Of A Way To Stop Android Jellybean Capitalizing Every Word When I Post On Fark?
 
2013-03-23 06:31:34 PM
Surprised they played? Shoot, that's spring soccer around here. And fall.
 
2013-03-23 06:33:30 PM

12349876: Torrent of Rubbish: Apparently they have a game in Mexico City in a few weeks and wanted to get acclimated to the elevation.

If by a few weeks you mean Tuesday then sure.


Ah. Should have checked the date. Thanks for the correction.
 
2013-03-23 06:40:26 PM
I watched all but the first 15 minutes - you know what you really didnt see much of?  People acting like they took an arrow to the knee after every single contested ball - nobody wanted to lay there and thrash around in the snow.

It was.... refreshing.
 
2013-03-23 06:48:24 PM

Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.

/the game was stopped for several minutes just to clear the air on that issue.
//madness, though, I will admit.


Keep in mind that the commentators are not privy to those conversations. They were speculating that the CR players were interested in playing on.

Bottom line is, the decision to play on or suspend a game rests solely on the shoulders of the officials.  CR doesn't have a leg to stand on here.  The US played in the same conditions and managed more attacking play and actually scored.  Sorry you lost CR, get over it.
 
2013-03-23 06:49:42 PM

Generation_D: My question was not why play in the Front Range area in March, it was why not play it at the Broncos home stadium, the one with heater coils and regular experience in dealing with snow, like having more than one snow plow.

Instead they play this thing at Dick's Sporting Goods Park where 2 guys with shovels was the ground crew.
Even better when you consider the Colorado Rapids are owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, who could absolutely have afforded equipping his park with the same snow melting heater coils used in every NFL and EPL and other European leagues fields worldwide.

MLS looked like a pissant outfit to the world, but hey if it helps the US get a victory then sure why not.

And the other posters are right: About in the 55th - 60th minute, the referee was about to suspend play and both team captains talked him out of it.


I'll tell you their logic, I'll leave you to make the judgement call.  Colorado was chosen for the altitude considering they're going straight to Mexico City for their next game, the smaller soccer specific stadium was chosen so it wouldn't be full of Costa Rica and Latino anti-US fans.
 
2013-03-23 07:07:37 PM
The US soccer team always has to go play in heat and humidity in Mexico and Central America, and high altitude in Mexico City. About time we got some homefield advantage.
 
2013-03-23 07:09:14 PM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


I was at the game.  Was 50 and sunny at noon, was even warmer most of the week.  Snow started about 5:30pm, by kick off at 8pm, it wasn't that bad, windy and maybe an inch or so of snow.  The first half of the game wasn't too bad either, definitely not ideal, but not unplayable.  Second half, the storm kicked into overdrive.  Was falling at least 1"/hour, likely closer to 2"/hour.

If the game was last weekend, it would have been fine.  If it was played 2 hours earlier, it would have been fine.
 
2013-03-23 07:16:05 PM

12349876: Generation_D: My question was not why play in the Front Range area in March, it was why not play it at the Broncos home stadium, the one with heater coils and regular experience in dealing with snow, like having more than one snow plow.

Instead they play this thing at Dick's Sporting Goods Park where 2 guys with shovels was the ground crew.
Even better when you consider the Colorado Rapids are owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, who could absolutely have afforded equipping his park with the same snow melting heater coils used in every NFL and EPL and other European leagues fields worldwide.

MLS looked like a pissant outfit to the world, but hey if it helps the US get a victory then sure why not.

And the other posters are right: About in the 55th - 60th minute, the referee was about to suspend play and both team captains talked him out of it.

I'll tell you their logic, I'll leave you to make the judgement call.  Colorado was chosen for the altitude considering they're going straight to Mexico City for their next game, the smaller soccer specific stadium was chosen so it wouldn't be full of Costa Rica and Latino anti-US fans.


As heavy as the snow was falling, a heated field would have done nothing for the second half of the match.  Snow was falling too heavily.

And guess what, if the match was tonight, it would be playable.  10" of snow fell, but it has stopped now, could clear surface and have a match.

I also read some comments today that the Match Steward, some guy from Grenada, was the one who made the call to continue playing.
 
2013-03-23 07:19:53 PM
I enjoyed it. Soccer in the snow is unpredictable and fun. And with FIFA considering moving the 2022 Qatar World Cup to winter...do it for Russia 2018! Of course, Germany might have a problem with Russia in winter. :/
 
2013-03-23 07:33:12 PM

zoobaby: I was at the game....etc.


The point isn't that it was nice leading up to it, it's that we're talking about a spot where it's possible to get snow at a very late point in the year, and still they thought hey, it'll be fine to play there.  Hell, I'm sure the possibility was pointed out to the Costa Rican team's management in negotiations.
 
2013-03-23 07:39:41 PM

TheKnownUniverse: I enjoyed it. Soccer in the snow is unpredictable and fun. And with FIFA considering moving the 2022 Qatar World Cup to winter...do it for Russia 2018! Of course, Germany might have a problem with Russia in winter. :/


France might have similar problems. . .
 
2013-03-23 07:40:36 PM
Watching the game, no one ever went to the ref to complain.  They had the break after halftime and it was clearly ok with both sides to carry on.  I think Costa Rica though they they'd score and would love to walk out with one point... but when that didn't happen, they are deciding to cry foul.
 
rka
2013-03-23 07:42:56 PM

Generation_D: My question was not why play in the Front Range area in March, it was why not play it at the Broncos home stadium, the one with heater coils and regular experience in dealing with snow, like having more than one snow plow.


The heating under the Broncos field isn't enough to melt snow. It's just enough to keep the soil warm enough to promote grass growth year round.
 
2013-03-23 07:43:30 PM
Pura Vida!
 
2013-03-23 07:44:37 PM
When they stopped play in the second half the US was way back on its heels and Costa Rica was having the run of play. I bet they figured they could pocket one or two goals the way they were looking. Really, the US didnt have many scoring chances in the second half. If CR scores one goal from a strange slip or skid on the ice coming from all the possession they had the second half so one is talking about petitioning for a replay and the US is feeling awful sour with 1 point through 2 games.
 
2013-03-23 07:48:43 PM
That was by far the most entertaining soccer game I've watched.  I usually can't take more than a few minutes (unless listening to the Mexican announcers), but was engrossed and watched almost the entire game.
 
2013-03-23 07:54:35 PM
That was hellish fun to watch, there should be more games in the snow. Costa Rica were fine with the conditions until they'd already lost.

/plays Ultimate in the snow all the time
//best time to play
///Dempsey!
 
2013-03-23 07:55:43 PM
It was sort of disappointing that none of the players made snow angels after the game.
 
2013-03-23 08:14:26 PM

downstairs: I didn't watch the match, but I assume both teams were playing in the same conditions?


You would think they would know that but I guess they believe the US players were inside protective bubbles.

This would be like the US complaining the match was too sunny in CR so they deserve a do-over.
 
2013-03-23 08:44:29 PM
Whiny biatches.
 
2013-03-23 08:52:18 PM
Fun game to watch.  In all the years I played soccer, never had the chance to play in the snow.  I am now sad.  The one thing that amazed me was the fact the players didn't seem to have a problem with footing until the last 7-10 minutes of the game.

Unfortunately, given that we are talking about FIFA, they probably will grant CR's protest and dock the American team 43 points for not postponing the game....
 
2013-03-23 08:52:21 PM
Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.
======================================================

I don't know how games that high up are like... but lower leagues that I ref in... it's the coaches call whether or not to play... but the second the game starts it's up to the ref as to whether to stop or not.

So, there's been times where the fields were just DREADFUL but the coaches insisted on playing... so I blow the whistle to start the game and then immediately blow it again, call an end to the game, walk to my car, and then go home.

/Only once have I been able to get the coaches to call it beforehand... and dear god almighty the fields were awful. And it took about 20 minutes of convincing.
 
2013-03-23 10:40:32 PM

jake3988: I don't know how games that high up are like... but lower leagues that I ref in... it's the coaches call whether or not to play... but the second the game starts it's up to the ref as to whether to stop or not.


It was up to the ref here, but he was convinced by the players and coaches to keep going.  Mainly because they would've had to make it up sometime before the next Q match (on Tuesday), and there was no guarantee that the weather wouldn't be just as bad tonight.
 
2013-03-23 10:59:12 PM

jake3988: Lord Jubjub: The commentator repeatedly stressed that the referee was willing to suspend the game, but the CR players were game to play on.
======================================================

I don't know how games that high up are like... but lower leagues that I ref in... it's the coaches call whether or not to play... but the second the game starts it's up to the ref as to whether to stop or not.

So, there's been times where the fields were just DREADFUL but the coaches insisted on playing... so I blow the whistle to start the game and then immediately blow it again, call an end to the game, walk to my car, and then go home.

/Only once have I been able to get the coaches to call it beforehand... and dear god almighty the fields were awful. And it took about 20 minutes of convincing.


That only left you 6 minutes to get to the gym.

Seriously though, that's awesome to start the game and end it right away.  Soccer trolling?
 
2013-03-23 11:07:26 PM

rcf1105: The US soccer team always has to go play in heat and humidity in Mexico and Central America, and high altitude in Mexico City. About time we got some homefield advantage.


Exactly! They expect the US squad to occasionally play these games in parts of Latin America or the Caribbean during our winter (their summer) when the temp is 100+  but whine over a little snow here? If I were in any way associated with Costa Rica's program I would be begging everyone else around me to take the loss and shut up quick. Crying about it after is such a gutless thing to do. Pansies!
 
2013-03-23 11:31:42 PM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


Gamesmanship.  See US/Mexico in Columbus in 20-degree weather in February as Exhibit A.
 
2013-03-23 11:35:32 PM

TheKnownUniverse: I enjoyed it. Soccer in the snow is unpredictable and fun. And with FIFA considering moving the 2022 Qatar World Cup to winter...do it for Russia 2018! Of course, Germany might have a problem with Russia in winter. :/


 s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-03-23 11:35:38 PM
I wonder what the chances are that Costa Rica would have protested had they won.
 
2013-03-23 11:55:12 PM
Leading progressive legislation on marijuana, guns, civil unions and now the state helps the US Soccer team...is there anything Colorado CAN'T do?
 
2013-03-23 11:59:18 PM

the1hatman: rcf1105: The US soccer team always has to go play in heat and humidity in Mexico and Central America, and high altitude in Mexico City. About time we got some homefield advantage.

Exactly! They expect the US squad to occasionally play these games in parts of Latin America or the Caribbean during our winter (their summer) when the temp is 100+  but whine over a little snow here? If I were in any way associated with Costa Rica's program I would be begging everyone else around me to take the loss and shut up quick. Crying about it after is such a gutless thing to do. Pansies!


Other than the fact that Central America is in the Northern Hemisphere, I agree with your point. When you're acclimated to the cold and go to a hot, humid climate without time to adjust, it takes a hard physical toll on your body. If this game was in Costa Rica, the US team would have been wearing down by the middle of the second half.
 
2013-03-24 12:04:02 AM
Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.
 
2013-03-24 12:21:12 AM

TheKnownUniverse: I enjoyed it. Soccer in the snow is unpredictable and fun. And with FIFA considering moving the 2022 Qatar World Cup to winter...do it for Russia 2018! Of course, Germany might have a problem with Russia in winter. :/


I think the French also will have problems with the Russian winter...especially if the Russians burn the stadium down before the game

Now, the Brits lucked out with the Crimea now with Ukraine
 
2013-03-24 12:27:16 AM
If the Costa Ricans expect us to play on that goat pasture they call Saprissa while being pelted by bags of urine and shiat then they can deal with a little bit of snow when they come to a country that isn't a third world hellhole.

Popcorn Johnny: It was sort of disappointing that none of the players made snow angels after the game.



I saw at least one player doing that during the game lol
 
2013-03-24 12:54:23 AM

Wadded Beef: Leading progressive legislation on marijuana, guns, civil unions and now the state helps the US Soccer team...is there anything Colorado CAN'T do?


Keep out Texans.
 
2013-03-24 01:06:48 AM
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2013-03-24 02:36:00 AM

germ78: the1hatman: rcf1105: The US soccer team always has to go play in heat and humidity in Mexico and Central America, and high altitude in Mexico City. About time we got some homefield advantage.

Exactly! They expect the US squad to occasionally play these games in parts of Latin America or the Caribbean during our winter (their summer) when the temp is 100+  but whine over a little snow here? If I were in any way associated with Costa Rica's program I would be begging everyone else around me to take the loss and shut up quick. Crying about it after is such a gutless thing to do. Pansies!

Other than the fact that Central America is in the Northern Hemisphere, I agree with your point. When you're acclimated to the cold and go to a hot, humid climate without time to adjust, it takes a hard physical toll on your body. If this game was in Costa Rica, the US team would have been wearing down by the middle of the second half.


I was including South America in that as well but yea, the overall point about the local weather wherever you play is always a factor so suck it up.

Served in Central America twice. March is part of their warm, dry season while still wintry in most of the US
 
2013-03-24 03:39:51 AM

ongbok: FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??

This.
Who was the genuis that decided to schedule this game in Colorado?


(a) altitude with the Mexico game Tuesday and (b) possibility of cold weather.

The US always schedules cold games when possible, to give them an advantage against sides that aren't used to it.  Assuming Costa Rica loses their appeal, this was the ideal situation for the US and gave them the best shot to win.
 
2013-03-24 04:03:32 AM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


I think that's exactly what they knew. And they knew they were playing Not Canada. And they knew they had white jerseys on hand.

This was revenge for all those times the US has had to travel to Ciudad La Bumfark and play on pitches that are half-rock, half-mud in front of crowds who remember the name William Walker even if the US doesn't.
 
2013-03-24 04:52:11 AM
You know who else something something something football in the snow?

i.azcentral.com
 
2013-03-24 10:41:43 AM
Is anybody surprised that CR is protesting after a loss to the US team?
 
2013-03-24 11:21:45 AM
I protest that we have to play on Costa Rica's shiatty field every time we go and play there. Or is that Puerto Rico? One of them has a field worse than a Zimbabwe elementary school.
 
2013-03-24 11:24:39 AM

Gosling: This was revenge for all those times the US has had to travel to Ciudad La Bumfark and play on pitches that are half-rock, half-mud in front of crowds who remember the name William Walker even if the US doesn't


Even though Costa Rica has that brand spanking new national stadium, I wouldn't be surprised if they scheduled the return match for that craphole Saprissa Stadium with the bouncy artificial turf.
 
2013-03-24 11:33:59 AM

FriarReb98: All of this leads to one very simple, uncomplicated question:

What in the everloving fark are they playing soccer in central Colorado in mid-March for???  Don't they know this sort of thing is possible, if not likely??


This by a mile high
 
2013-03-24 11:41:52 AM

ScouserDuck: I protest that we have to play on Costa Rica's shiatty field every time we go and play there. Or is that Puerto Rico? One of them has a field worse than a Zimbabwe elementary school.


It's CR. Estadio Saprissa or some shiat like that. It's terrible. May as well play on farking concrete.
 
2013-03-24 11:45:00 AM

nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.


I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.  In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.
 
2013-03-24 12:17:41 PM
Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.
 
2013-03-24 12:41:14 PM

FLMountainMan: nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.

I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.  In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.


There have been guys like that coming out of the US. Like Freddy Adu. You need a hell of lot more than just raw athleticism to make it in football.

SlothB77: Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.


Yeah yeah this argument comes up all the time. Of course a ripped NFL player would never make it to the half time alive. They are not going to be stopping the game every three minutes so they can catch their breath with some oxygen.
 
2013-03-24 12:43:15 PM

PDid: Wadded Beef: Leading progressive legislation on marijuana, guns, civil unions and now the state helps the US Soccer team...is there anything Colorado CAN'T do?

Keep out Texans.


Ah, but the good Texans stay. Then they become Coloradans.
 
2013-03-24 01:39:05 PM

SlothB77: Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.


The guys you need are not just the ones who can run, but the ones who can juke, deke, fake out their man, maybe with enough of a vertical to get their head on the ball. Any arm-related skills are irrelevant unless you're in goal (and the US is a goalkeeper breeding ground as it is; for that all we need are some leftover wide receivers who can kick a little bit. That's where Chad Johnson ought to have tried out when he rang up the then- Kansas City Wizards). Luis Scola would be a good option.
 
2013-03-24 02:04:06 PM
Football (soccer) has never been a fair weather sport.
 
2013-03-24 03:31:31 PM

rka: Generation_D: My question was not why play in the Front Range area in March, it was why not play it at the Broncos home stadium, the one with heater coils and regular experience in dealing with snow, like having more than one snow plow.

The heating under the Broncos field isn't enough to melt snow. It's just enough to keep the soil warm enough to promote grass growth year round.


And to my understanding to keep the  ground from freezing solid.
 
2013-03-24 06:07:26 PM
Cold weather + creative locating within the US to prevent 'home' games from becoming 'away' games.
 
2013-03-24 09:12:27 PM

Halli: FLMountainMan: nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.

I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.  In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.

There have been guys like that coming out of the US. Like Freddy Adu. You need a hell of lot more than just raw athleticism to make it in football.

SlothB77: Yeah, I don't see NBA players transitioning to soccer. but take those ripped nfl guys who can run a 4.2, switch them to soccer. or the guys too short for the NBA, but fast as hell.

Yeah yeah this argument comes up all the time. Of course a ripped NFL player would never make it to the half time alive. They are not going to be stopping the game every three minutes so they can catch their breath with some oxygen.


Those ripped players will have no trouble with making it through the game with their conditioning, the ones who will be sucking air are the linemen with 20-30lbs hanging over their belts.
 
2013-03-24 09:52:38 PM

FLMountainMan: nwave: Imagine how much we would dominate soccer if we didn't hate it and consider it beneath us. Imagine LeBron James kicking a ball to Megatron who trucks his way down the field, kicks it to Kevin Garnett who kicks the ball at 150mph into the net from 40 yards out. Our masculine supermen would dominate these little 5'7 150lb soccer players that play soccer for other countries.

I don't even think we need to go that far.  I played basketball all through high school and college and always considered myself average in terms of athleticism. I took up soccer in my early thirties and am (sadly) one of the best athletes on the field.


So your team mates and opponents suck?

In basketball, I knew and played against hundreds, if not thousands, of quick as hell, lightning fast (mostly) black kids who were 5'8" point guards who were never going to make a D-1 team or the pros because of their height.  Give those kids soccer balls and we'd dominate.

Yeah there's a big gap between the big American sports and the big Global sports. This infographic is a good starting point:

news.bbcimg.co.uk

So your average rugby player runs 4.35 miles in 80 minutes of play, while your average American football player runs 0.19 miles in 60 minutes of play.

According to this article, the average distance run by players in the Premier League is almost 7.3 miles in 90 minutes of play.

I've never seen a basketball game, but the courts are tiny and the games are pretty short, aren't they? And am I wrong in thinking that substitutions are unlimited? I've just glanced over the rules on wikipedia, so apologies if I'm in error, but a basketball player wanting to play football would surely need to work on stamina training.
 
2013-03-24 10:27:10 PM

iron de havilland: I've never seen a basketball game, but the courts are tiny and the games are pretty short, aren't they? And am I wrong in thinking that substitutions are unlimited? I've just glanced over the rules on wikipedia, so apologies if I'm in error, but a basketball player wanting to play football would surely need to work on stamina training.


You've obviously never played the game either, you need to run up and down the court and have to play both offense and defense. There is a substantial amount of running and stamina is very important. The court being tiny means there is less standing around because you need to pretty much always be active during the game. Soccer might take more stamina, but I've played both sports, and I wouldn't say that basketball is too far off when it comes to needing stamina. Basketball is incredibly tiring.
 
2013-03-24 10:43:10 PM

TheJoe03: iron de havilland: I've never seen a basketball game, but the courts are tiny and the games are pretty short, aren't they? And am I wrong in thinking that substitutions are unlimited? I've just glanced over the rules on wikipedia, so apologies if I'm in error, but a basketball player wanting to play football would surely need to work on stamina training.

You've obviously never played the game either, you need to run up and down the court and have to play both offense and defense.


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There is a substantial amount of running and stamina is very important. The court being tiny means there is less standing around because you need to pretty much always be active during the game.

Yes, but there isn't a lot of standing around in football's top class. Wikipedia can educate you on total football, tiki-taka and Brasil's retaining of the original world cup.

Apparently Garrincha lost his virginity to a donkey.

Soccer might take more stamina, but I've played both sports, and I wouldn't say that basketball is too far off when it comes to needing stamina. Basketball is incredibly tiring.

So how long does a basketball game last? Google suggests 48 minutes, less than half the play time of football.
 
2013-03-24 10:49:59 PM
I'm not saying basketball players require as much stamina as soccer players, just that there isn't that much of a disparity and if guys like Kobe and LeBron played soccer instead of basketball, they would probably be pretty dominate. Stamina wouldn't be as important for those guys to learn compared to dribbling and shooting with their feet instead of hands. Much of the other forms of agility found in soccer is very similar to what is seen in basketball. Basketball is basically soccer for tall people that use their hands. Out of all the big 4 North American sports, basketball players would have the easiest transition (well guards and small forwards would work, centers wouldn't). 

/the pace of a basketball game pretty much forces the quarters to be 12 minutes, any more time would be unnecessary. Plus football adds up to an hour but still requires less stamina than basketball, so I think the length of the game doesn't really tell the whole story.
 
2013-03-25 05:36:59 AM

steamingpile: Those ripped players will have no trouble with making it through the game with their conditioning, the ones who will be sucking air are the linemen with 20-30lbs hanging over their belts.


They take a couple of sprints every now and then. They don't exactly run 10 kilometers per game.
 
2013-03-25 08:35:33 AM
Check this out for snow football action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d48a6MDmCBM

They started with an orange ball, so it could be visible in the conditions, but it broke part way through the match. To fill the void they apparently just played team Irish dancing for the rest of the game.
 
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