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2013-03-23 12:05:36 PM  
why?  cause they use Bitcoins?
 
2013-03-23 01:18:21 PM  
Tell you what. Get all internet casinos to block your town's IP addresses, and that way the appropriate range of your authority will be achieved, you concerned person in florida you.
 
2013-03-23 03:17:02 PM  
Because you obviously can trust illegal gambling software, right?
 
2013-03-23 03:17:36 PM  
Babies and bathwater.  Please to tell the difference.
 
2013-03-23 03:19:39 PM  
Odd article.  Seems to have a lot of "it's bad that charities are linked to casinos!" at first, and takes way too long to get to the ACTUAL problem, which is that only a sliver of the money actually goes to any good.  If they were putting more of the money to the cause, I'd be all for this.

Also, electronic gambling is weird.  I just moved to a state (South Dakota) that has video gambling in bars, and it's just crushing to see some poor soul bent over a screen, poking at things, in the corner of ever bar.
 
2013-03-23 03:24:57 PM  

Generation_D: Tell you what. Get all internet casinos to block your town's IP addresses, and that way the appropriate range of your authority will be achieved, you concerned person in florida you.


How un-American.
 
2013-03-23 03:40:23 PM  
It was stunning how quickly Governor Scott threw the Lt Gov to the wolves when this story broke. It doesn't fit the mold of the typical Republican administration -- deny and cover-up -- at all. It's also a frighteningly high price to exact from the career of someone who allegedly had a minor consulting role.

If not for this, I'd say this problem could be resolved through better public disclosure and tax accounting policies, and that these sweepstakes need not be banned. But now that the political angle has become so prominent, I think we need a full independent investigation of the Scott administration to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes.
 
2013-03-23 03:49:02 PM  
The resulting political and legal maelstrom triggered the resignation of Republican Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, who had done consulting work for the charity, and sent top elected officials from both parties in Florida and North Carolina scrambling to return or at least explain the more than $1 million in campaign contributions they accepted from donors linked to Allied.

A Republican?

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2013-03-23 03:57:26 PM  

Dafatone: Odd article.  Seems to have a lot of "it's bad that charities are linked to casinos!" at first, and takes way too long to get to the ACTUAL problem, which is that only a sliver of the money actually goes to any good.  If they were putting more of the money to the cause, I'd be all for this.


So like every charity.
These charities are just following the United Way/Red Cross/etc. model - find a cause people will be sympathetic towards, pay yourself and your friends 5-7 figures for running everything, and give a little bit to the needy.
 
2013-03-23 03:57:34 PM  
Because this is Followup?
 
2013-03-23 04:02:24 PM  

Dafatone: Odd article.  Seems to have a lot of "it's bad that charities are linked to casinos!" at first, and takes way too long to get to the ACTUAL problem, which is that only a sliver of the money actually goes to any good.  If they were putting more of the money to the cause, I'd be all for this.

Also, electronic gambling is weird.  I just moved to a state (South Dakota) that has video gambling in bars, and it's just crushing to see some poor soul bent over a screen, poking at things, in the corner of ever bar.


I know that there is really no difference between electronic and mechanical gambling, but man, it just FEELS different.  I'm a fan of an occasional gamble, but electronic slots and Ecard games are such a huge rip off, and no fun to boot, that I can't understand why people are into it.

Especially the "poker" machines in every bar.  You know, you could go play against PEOPLE that are being fed drinks, which make them play VERY badly, and you would WIN.  Or you could feed that machine 20$ bills all night, your call.
 
2013-03-23 04:02:53 PM  
FTFA "This is just one more example of why all Internet casinos must be shut down," Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, who oversees the sweepstakes industry

Wait wut?  Why does the Agriculture Commission oversee this industry?

/which also may explain his idiotic comment
 
2013-03-23 04:05:04 PM  

gingerjet: FTFA "This is just one more example of why all Internet casinos must be shut down," Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, who oversees the sweepstakes industry

Wait wut?  Why does the Agriculture Commission oversee this industry?

/which also may explain his idiotic comment


Due to a legislator loophole, all Internet casinos must be zoned "agricultural". Technically, the Internet casinos are on farm land.
 
2013-03-23 04:11:23 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: gingerjet: FTFA "This is just one more example of why all Internet casinos must be shut down," Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, who oversees the sweepstakes industry

Wait wut?  Why does the Agriculture Commission oversee this industry?

/which also may explain his idiotic comment

Due to a legislator loophole, all Internet casinos must be zoned "agricultural". Technically, the Internet casinos are on farm land.


facepalm.jpg
 
2013-03-23 04:17:54 PM  

Begoggle: Dafatone: Odd article.  Seems to have a lot of "it's bad that charities are linked to casinos!" at first, and takes way too long to get to the ACTUAL problem, which is that only a sliver of the money actually goes to any good.  If they were putting more of the money to the cause, I'd be all for this.

So like every charity.
These charities are just following the United Way/Red Cross/etc. model - find a cause people will be sympathetic towards, pay yourself and your friends 5-7 figures for running everything, and give a little bit to the needy.


Some charities are better than that.
 
2013-03-23 04:26:23 PM  

Dafatone: Begoggle: Dafatone: Odd article.  Seems to have a lot of "it's bad that charities are linked to casinos!" at first, and takes way too long to get to the ACTUAL problem, which is that only a sliver of the money actually goes to any good.  If they were putting more of the money to the cause, I'd be all for this.

So like every charity.
These charities are just following the United Way/Red Cross/etc. model - find a cause people will be sympathetic towards, pay yourself and your friends 5-7 figures for running everything, and give a little bit to the needy.

Some charities are better than that.


Yeah, like Childs' play... and.....
 
2013-03-23 04:28:34 PM  
The only reason why they don't like them is because the state can't tax them.
 
2013-03-23 04:28:39 PM  

Kahabut: I know that there is really no difference between electronic and mechanical gambling, but man, it just FEELS different. I'm a fan of an occasional gamble, but electronic slots and Ecard games are such a huge rip off, and no fun to boot, that I can't understand why people are into it.

Especially the "poker" machines in every bar. You know, you could go play against PEOPLE that are being fed drinks, which make them play VERY badly, and you would WIN. Or you could feed that machine 20$ bills all night, your call.


I'm with ya.  At times I have folks in town that enjoy gambling.  We have a real casino.  I'll go with a few bucks, gamble slowly (craps: you can generally stay even for a very long time if you play it right), and "win" by all the free drinks I consume.

We also have electronic gambling in pretty much every bar.  You're bound to lose AND you're not getting free drinks!
 
2013-03-23 04:32:48 PM  

Kahabut: Yeah, like Childs' play... and.....


And such as NFL punters growing their hair for a year, then cutting it for charity.

/What's that, Lassie? He didn't ask for funds??
 
2013-03-23 04:40:29 PM  

Dafatone: Begoggle: Dafatone: Odd article.  Seems to have a lot of "it's bad that charities are linked to casinos!" at first, and takes way too long to get to the ACTUAL problem, which is that only a sliver of the money actually goes to any good.  If they were putting more of the money to the cause, I'd be all for this.

So like every charity.
These charities are just following the United Way/Red Cross/etc. model - find a cause people will be sympathetic towards, pay yourself and your friends 5-7 figures for running everything, and give a little bit to the needy.

Some charities are better than that.


Even the ones he listed are way better than that:
Red Cross
United Way
 
2013-03-23 04:48:40 PM  
Expected to see something like this:

1 dead, 1 wounded in rob try on online casino
 
2013-03-23 04:54:03 PM  

Kahabut: You know, you could go play against PEOPLE that are being fed drinks, which make them play VERY badly, and you would WIN.


But then you'd have to stay sober and learn how to play poker.  The fun is in the gambling, not in winning.
 
2013-03-23 04:54:05 PM  
The sweepstakes parlors are nothing more than money laundering fronts.  Good riddance.
 
2013-03-23 05:18:16 PM  

gingerjet: FTFA "This is just one more example of why all Internet casinos must be shut down," Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, who oversees the sweepstakes industry

Wait wut?  Why does the Agriculture Commission oversee this industry?

/which also may explain his idiotic comment


His department is actually the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.  All charities which solicit donations in Florida must register with the department and disclose their financials and the identity of their board members.

/previous commissioner was Charles Bronson...nobody messed with Charles Bronson.
 
2013-03-23 05:27:57 PM  
Harold T. Dukes Sr., who founded the Children's Cancer Cooperative in South Carolina in 1999, could not be reached for comment.

Dukes sucks.


Thisbymaster: The only reason why they don't like them is because the state can't tax them.


I think the state CAN tax them if they correctly report their proceeds. From TFA:

As with the Allied Veterans case announced earlier this month, the central questions will be how much money the cafes raised, how much of that should have been taxed, and how much ultimately went to charity.
 
2013-03-23 05:45:35 PM  

Begoggle: So like every charity.
These charities are just following the United Way/Red Cross/etc. model - find a cause people will be sympathetic towards, pay yourself and your friends 5-7 figures for running everything, and give a little bit to the needy.


So, just like Al Gore's global warming scheme.

/amidoinitright?
 
2013-03-23 06:07:53 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: gingerjet: FTFA "This is just one more example of why all Internet casinos must be shut down," Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, who oversees the sweepstakes industry

Wait wut?  Why does the Agriculture Commission oversee this industry?

/which also may explain his idiotic comment

Due to a legislator loophole, all Internet casinos must be zoned "agricultural". Technically, the Internet casinos are on farm land.


Just reaping the profits from those gullible sheep, I guess.
 
2013-03-23 06:37:50 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: gingerjet: FTFA "This is just one more example of why all Internet casinos must be shut down," Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, who oversees the sweepstakes industry

Wait wut?  Why does the Agriculture Commission oversee this industry?

/which also may explain his idiotic comment

Due to a legislator loophole, all Internet casinos must be zoned "agricultural". Technically, the Internet casinos are on farm land.


... I, uh... I mean in Florida, that's entirely plausible.

By the way, this sounds like BUSINESS-DESTROYING REGULATION being suggested by the Republican Commissioner.
 
2013-03-23 07:11:41 PM  
Only about 2 percent - about $6 million over four years - of the money raised by cafes affiliated with Allied actually went to assist veterans, according to prosecutors. And most of the money that Allied Veterans took in wasn't listed on its tax forms, as is required.

They are so screwed. The government doesn't like it when it doesn't get its cut.
 
2013-03-23 07:29:00 PM  
So does anyone in the US still play poker online, or have they all been shut down? Would I be risking losing my money if I tried to get back into it? Is it completely illegal? Would I be risking criminal prosecution?

I definitely don't want to wire $500 to some sketchy poker server in Nigeria or an eastern European country. I would only do it if there were a huge site with lots of players who have successfully put money in and then gotten it back out with no hassle.
 
2013-03-23 08:11:42 PM  
As a former longterm visitor of Costa Rica.... lulz
 
2013-03-23 08:13:29 PM  

Tommy Moo: So does anyone in the US still play poker online, or have they all been shut down? Would I be risking losing my money if I tried to get back into it? Is it completely illegal? Would I be risking criminal prosecution?

I definitely don't want to wire $500 to some sketchy poker server in Nigeria or an eastern European country. I would only do it if there were a huge site with lots of players who have successfully put money in and then gotten it back out with no hassle.


Yes, no, pick the right spot, maybe, here yes, no. And, the wire to Colombia isn't the issue.
 
2013-03-23 08:54:08 PM  
A fool and their money
 
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