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(The Raw Story)   US Senate passes budget resolution, after "herculean" effort. News: For the first time since 2009. Now it turns to the House, where it will take an act of God   (rawstory.com) divider line 168
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2013-03-23 08:04:33 AM  
The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?
 
2013-03-23 08:19:30 AM  

Bontesla: likely


For example, it's as likely that Ronald Regan will give the next state of the union.
 
2013-03-23 08:19:39 AM  
 
2013-03-23 08:35:34 AM  

Bontesla: The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?


You never know. They're in a big hurry to get out on their Easter vacation break.
 
2013-03-23 09:06:32 AM  

Bontesla: The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?


It was dead the moment it passed.
 
2013-03-23 09:31:09 AM  
The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.
 
2013-03-23 09:48:53 AM  
Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, briefly stumbled over the Bill of Rights, citing the First Amendment for the right to bear arms. He quickly corrected himself, and blamed the late hour.

Jesus.
 
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2013-03-23 09:55:50 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.


It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.
 
2013-03-23 10:07:50 AM  

vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.


Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".
 
2013-03-23 10:39:21 AM  
A fascinating reversal of the normal order of business.
 
2013-03-23 10:42:37 AM  
FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.
 
2013-03-23 10:43:33 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


Actually you're right.

If you are in debt, one of the more common things for people to do is to either ask for a raise or get a second job to bring more revenue in.
 
2013-03-23 10:44:16 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: vote-a-rama


Fascinating.  It's like watching The West Wing again.  Thanks.
 
2013-03-23 10:46:51 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


A war of choice,and tax cuts during said war, have to be paid for for somehow. Bombs, waterboards and cruise missiles don't pay for themselves ya know.
 
2013-03-23 10:46:53 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


Um, like going back to the pay rate we had in Reagan or Clinton's years?  Gosh, it was such a horror show economically.  I could barely stand how disastrous things were in the 1990s when those tax rates were so horrible no one could afford to invest in new tech businesses, the stock market collapsed, and our government's borrowing binge blew the budget up so badly that.........

....oh yeah, that's right, you're not capable of recalling anything except last week's Fox talking points.
 
2013-03-23 10:48:30 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


Honey, you have an aging population, just took a pay cut to fight two wars and can currently borrow money for free. We need to sell the house and kill the cow or you need to bring in more money.
 
2013-03-23 10:48:52 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Bontesla: The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?

It was dead the moment it passed.


GOP then: Raise taxes? How about we just close some loopholes?
Dems then: No I think we'll let the tax cuts expire for the rich, but we'll extend them for everyone else.

Dems now: Say, this time we won't ask to raise taxes, but how about we look at closing those loopholes you wanted to close last time around?
GOP now: Close loopholes? No way!
 
2013-03-23 10:52:12 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


Look at him and pity.
 
2013-03-23 10:52:12 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly. Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


THAT'S IT! NO MORE ABORTIONS!
 
2013-03-23 10:53:25 AM  
It's weird how the GOP wants to invoke the good times of 50's and 60's but ignores the high tax rates that were in place at the time. There is historical evidence that high(incentivized) taxes create growth.
 
2013-03-23 10:53:50 AM  

robotpirateninja: tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Honey, you have an aging population, just took a pay cut to fight two wars and can currently borrow money for free. We need to sell the house and kill the cow or you need to bring in more money.


Honey, we're swimming in debt. We should quit our jobs and live in the streets.
 
2013-03-23 11:01:58 AM  
And, one more Republican talking point bites the dust on a weekend.  Quick!  To the blogosphere.  We need moar talking points.
 
2013-03-23 11:03:14 AM  

what_now: Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, briefly stumbled over the Bill of Rights, citing the First Amendment for the right to bear arms. He quickly corrected himself, and blamed the late hour.

Jesus.


Guns should be the First Amendment because they're the most important liberty tool Lincoln gave the white man to protect His land.

Also, Benghazi.
 
2013-03-23 11:03:59 AM  
What pray tell has been funding the government the past four years if the Senate hasn't approved a budget? Magic? Jesus?

Utterly ridiculous if you take a second to think about it but conservatives keep parroting it nonetheless.
 
2013-03-23 11:04:59 AM  
Balls in your court, House.  You have no more excuses.  Don't like what the Senate passed, pass whatever bill you want, then take it to reconciliation.
 
2013-03-23 11:05:28 AM  
This thread didn't have a chance.
 
2013-03-23 11:06:25 AM  
Also, the post count shrinks by half when I enter this thread...

...dare I ask who is doing the threadshiatting? Or is it a JST effort?

/joint strike trolling, 101st mechanized keyboard patriot riders
//charging towards socialism at .06 MPH.
 
2013-03-23 11:07:24 AM  

Mrtraveler01: robotpirateninja: tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Honey, you have an aging population, just took a pay cut to fight two wars and can currently borrow money for free. We need to sell the house and kill the cow or you need to bring in more money.

Honey, we're swimming in debt. We should quit our jobs and live in the streets.


Honey, you're out of diabetes medication, you should probably go to the emergency room for a refill.

/oh wait, that was an actual platform
 
2013-03-23 11:08:09 AM  

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Actually you're right.

If you are in debt, one of the more common things for people to do is to either ask for a raise or get a second job to bring more revenue in.


I'm old school.

I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.
 
2013-03-23 11:13:34 AM  
Husband and wife have to tighten their belts while the kids (Koch bros. and Walmart girls) party it up and contribute nothing to help the family. Spending problem, yea right.
 
2013-03-23 11:16:25 AM  
I'm really old school.  I expect people to pay for the things they claim to want, like wars and tax cuts, by either specifying particular cuts in federal spending to offset the cost of the war or make up for lost revenue from the tax cut or raising taxes to make up any shortfall in spending.

Unfortunately, my old school way of thinking has been outnumbered by people who think tax cuts pay for themselves and wars can be funded by the oil we siphon from the countries we invade.
 
2013-03-23 11:17:54 AM  

clowncar on fire: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Actually you're right.

If you are in debt, one of the more common things for people to do is to either ask for a raise or get a second job to bring more revenue in.

I'm old school.

I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.


Aren't "I" and "my friends and family" the same person in this example?
 
2013-03-23 11:18:07 AM  

johnryan51: Husband and wife have to tighten their belts while the kids (Koch bros. and Walmart girls) party it up and contribute nothing to help the family. Spending problem, yea right.


For the last 40 some odd years the top has been experiencing ridiculous gains in both income and, more drastically, wealth, while the rest of us are stagnate at best, receding at worst.

When shiat hits the fan "everybody has to tighten their belts" to pay for a mess that was largely the fault of the top few in our society, albeit because of their personal greed or their willingness to cater towards powerful voting blocks.

It's so awesome. Not.

:(
 
2013-03-23 11:18:24 AM  

clowncar on fire: Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.


And this, friends, is why the government budget is in no way like a household budget.
 
2013-03-23 11:20:43 AM  
clowncar on fire:

I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

Crazy talk!
 
2013-03-23 11:21:27 AM  
Good things these farking clowns are on a 2 week break for something because they can't fark things up for at least 2 weeks
 
2013-03-23 11:21:37 AM  

clowncar on fire: At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.


So the onus is on the Federal Government to earn the extra income by not taxing people? So how else would they earn the extra income?

As someone else pointed out, this is why the Household Budget analogy deserves to be mocked and ridiculed.
 
2013-03-23 11:23:45 AM  

Empty Matchbook: Mrtraveler01: robotpirateninja: tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Honey, you have an aging population, just took a pay cut to fight two wars and can currently borrow money for free. We need to sell the house and kill the cow or you need to bring in more money.

Honey, we're swimming in debt. We should quit our jobs and live in the streets.

Honey, you're out of diabetes medication, you should probably go to the emergency room for a refill.

/oh wait, that was an actual platform


Honey, we're spending entirely to much money feeding ourselves, ensuring we're healthy, and bettering ourselves through education. We should cut that money to the bare minimum and not sell or cut our spending on our massive, ever growing arsenal that dwarfs any opponent we might encounter.
 
2013-03-23 11:25:11 AM  

Kome: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly. Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

THAT'S IT! NO MORE ABORTIONS!


I'm thinking just the opposite - means testing for parents. If you can't afford a child it must be aborted or given up for adoption. More abortions!
 
2013-03-23 11:26:51 AM  
The glaring partisanship of Congress ensures that neither plan will be enacted into law. Instead they will serve as the starting points for a broader debate this year over budget policy.

This suggests a starting at the two ends of the politcal spectrum then meeting somewhere in the middle but thats not the case. The repub-majority House passed a far-right budget with little to no minority input. The dem-majority Senate, to get *anything* passed the obstructionist minority, offered up a centrist if not right-leaning budget from the ton of repub amendments.

0.tqn.com
 
2013-03-23 11:26:58 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: clowncar on fire:

I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

Crazy talk!


Yes, comparing the US Government to your household IS crazy talk.
 
2013-03-23 11:30:58 AM  
Republicans to continue trying to tank the economy in 3... 2... 1...
 
2013-03-23 11:32:10 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.


http://www.fark.com/comments/7657837/Congress-The-Postal-Service-nee ds -to-save-money-USPS-Ok-well-cut-delivery-in-order-to-save-money-Congre ss-No-USPS-WTF-Congress-The-Postal-Service-needs-to-save-money&new=1#n ew

No surprise you weren't in this thread, where we discussed how Republicans refused a cut because they're actively sabotaging government.  

clowncar on fire:I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

So you too recommend getting rid of the tax cuts we can't afford?  The gifts, handouts, and free shiat to our least productive aristocratic super-rich?
 
2013-03-23 11:32:21 AM  

Hillbilly Jim: tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

A war of choice,and tax cuts during said war, have to be paid for for somehow. Bombs, waterboards and cruise missiles don't pay for themselves ya know.


If I could trust the government to collect revenue (raise taxes) long enough to pay this specific part of the bill off- or pay down the current debt--, I'd be alright with this.  The problem is, the government is very much like that poor family down the street.  When they finally do get that one-time windfall, they blow it on an F-150, a Super Bowl extraveganza, and a bunch of other crap rather than paying off their debt.  In the end, they'll still living outside their means and owe the same debts, but now they'll be 'round asking for a handout to help maintain the additional crap they amassed on the last go around.

Unless we hold them to a budget, they will continuously be out there with the hand out looking for more revenue.
 
2013-03-23 11:34:18 AM  

clowncar on fire: When they finally do get that one-time windfall, they blow it on an F-150, a Super Bowl extraveganza, and a bunch of other crap rather than paying off their debt.


All while asking for their boss for a pay cut.
 
2013-03-23 11:36:28 AM  

clowncar on fire: Hillbilly Jim: tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

A war of choice,and tax cuts during said war, have to be paid for for somehow. Bombs, waterboards and cruise missiles don't pay for themselves ya know.

If I could trust the government to collect revenue (raise taxes) long enough to pay this specific part of the bill off- or pay down the current debt--, I'd be alright with this.  The problem is, the government is very much like that poor family down the street.  When they finally do get that one-time windfall, they blow it on an F-150, a Super Bowl extraveganza, and a bunch of other crap rather than paying off their debt.  In the end, they'll still living outside their means and owe the same debts, but now they'll be 'round asking for a handout to help maintain the additional crap they amassed on the last go around.

Unless we hold them to a budget, they will continuously be out there with the hand out looking for more revenue.


You're right, we should cut the defense budget and keep it down. Thanks for supporting Obama's budget.
 
2013-03-23 11:41:45 AM  

Testiclaw: When shiat hits the fan "everybody has to tighten their belts" to pay for a mess that was largely the fault of the top few in our society, albeit because of their personal greed or their willingness to cater towards powerful voting blocks.


Not everybody.

The rich are quite adamant that they shouldn't have to pay anything more.  After all, they are the Job CreatorsTM who make everything work through, and if they get too unhappy with the Democrats making them pay taxes, they'll be just like Atlas and shrug, and their lack of Galt-like bootstrappy hard work will cause the whole system to collapse!

Just think of the rich people, who are so much better than us because they are rich!  If poor people were better people, they'd be rich!

/Sick thing is, a lot of people really think this way.
 
2013-03-23 11:43:04 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: clowncar on fire: Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

And this, friends, is why the government budget is in no way like a household budget.


I love trying to parse how he would expect the government to "get a second job." There seems to be this inherent assumption that government buys stuff it wants with our money. They see the government is an autonomous external entity to the citizenship of the country, leeching from us to pursue its own selfish desires.

Representative democracy means the country IS us: we might not always agree with the decisions the country makes, but it is still taking actions that we have symbolically said we want them to take on our behalf. Raising taxes isn't like asking your neighbor to pay for you to continue to live beyond your means, it's asking your roommates to pony up if they continue to maintain the standard of living they've become accustomed to, since they've already said that cuts to the biggest parts of the budget are unnacceptable. Yes, you should find cuts, but to demand a balanced budget that shields military and retirees from cuts you cannot claim revenues are off the table.

Seriously: going by 2011 numbers if you don't touch Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, or Defense, that's less than 100 billion to fund everything else the government does, which would be less than 10% of what the rest of everything currently cost.
 
2013-03-23 11:44:53 AM  

clowncar on fire: If I could trust the government to collect revenue (raise taxes) long enough to pay this specific part of the bill off- or pay down the current debt--, I'd be alright with this.


Where have I heard that before?  Hmmm.  Oh, yeah, in 1993, when Republicans were arguing that the Clinton Tax raises would never do anything to reduce the deficits AND that they would lead us to a recession.  The Republicans were wrong on both counts.  The deficits came down, the economy boomed.

Then, as soon as the Reps. came into office, instead of building on the progress we made in reducing the deficits, which we could reduced at an even quicker rate in the 90s by passing easily afforded tax hikes, the idiots cut capital gains taxes.  But it didn't stop there!  Oh no!  As soon as the idiots got the White House, they passed income tax cuts that completely destroyed the progress we had made in balancing the budget and then clusterfarked us into two wars, which we refused to pay for.

So, yeah, trusting the Republicans to know what to do in re: to the economy and the budget is dumb.  That's why we need to get Clintonian policies back in force.  Because they worked.
 
2013-03-23 11:46:39 AM  
I'd like to introduce an amendment that you have to actually spend less than you did last year before you can call use the term "cut".

/if you spend more, it's an increase
 
2013-03-23 11:47:47 AM  

Silverstaff: Testiclaw: When shiat hits the fan "everybody has to tighten their belts" to pay for a mess that was largely the fault of the top few in our society, albeit because of their personal greed or their willingness to cater towards powerful voting blocks.

Not everybody.

The rich are quite adamant that they shouldn't have to pay anything more.  After all, they are the Job CreatorsTM who make everything work through, and if they get too unhappy with the Democrats making them pay taxes, they'll be just like Atlas and shrug, and their lack of Galt-like bootstrappy hard work will cause the whole system to collapse!

Just think of the rich people, who are so much better than us because they are rich!  If poor people were better people, they'd be rich!

/Sick thing is, a lot of people really think this way.


Please remember to avert your eyes when you speak of the blessed Job Creators™, peace be upon them.
 
2013-03-23 11:49:32 AM  
tenpoundsofcheese:
"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

It's like you're intentionally forgetting that we completely financed a $3 trillion invasion of another country and have no plan to pay it back except cutting funding to Planned Parenthood and NPR.  The scope of that number is way beyond the repair that cuts to discretionary spending can provide.
 
2013-03-23 11:53:57 AM  

Minarets: tenpoundsofcheese:
"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

It's like you're intentionally forgetting that we completely financed a $3 trillion invasion of another country and have no plan to pay it back except cutting funding to Planned Parenthood and NPR.  The scope of that number is way beyond the repair that cuts to discretionary spending can provide.


This is a little out there, but go with me on this one.

Next time we invade one of these countries, we take (buy) 100% of their oil production at $50 bbl and sell it on the open market until the war debt is paid.
 
2013-03-23 11:55:31 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.


Why do they need to pass a budget? Official budgets fund absolutely nothing. Government doesn't need one to run.  Congress used to not pass them at all.

Oh it's because you are easily fooled into thinking something is important when its not.
 
2013-03-23 11:56:19 AM  

TheBigJerk: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7657837/Congress-The-Postal-Service-nee ds -to-save-money-USPS-Ok-well-cut-delivery-in-order-to-save-money-Congre ss-No-USPS-WTF-Congress-The-Postal-Service-needs-to-save-money&new=1#n ew

No surprise you weren't in this thread, where we discussed how Republicans refused a cut because they're actively sabotaging government.  

clowncar on fire:I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

So you too recommend getting rid of the tax cuts we can't afford?  The gifts, handouts, and free shiat to our least productive aristocratic super-rich?


It's cute how you believe the only source of revenue out there is by taxing the wealty more.  Not that I'm saying that they (the rich) probably couldn't be doing more for the country that has blessed them with so much, it's just I find it amusing that people actually believe that this is the ONLY way- that all hope rests upon their useless, unproductive, aristocratic shoulders.

We made the rich.  You want equalization?  Stop handing your money over to them.  Is having a i-phone more important than hiring that unemployed neighbor to come over and paint your house?  Do you need to party out on the deck of a Royal Carribean cruiser or staying in a chain of nationally syndicated hotels while visiting Disneland when you could keep that wealth local by partying with your friends every night in a locally owned tavern?  Maybe just forgo all those wealth exporting vacations and just pay your debts off so the interest won't accumulate.  By a tiny home and higher locals to fix it up with "green" material so that you won't have  to pay the oil giants to heat it.

But I want my high tech phones, a properly painted over sized non-eco friendly home, and my trips else where because I deserve them- even if it means it's all paid by the credit card of my choice.  YOU made them- you can un-make them.  But- like being on a diet-- it's a hell of a lot more pleasant gaining the weght than it is trying to lose it.
 
2013-03-23 11:57:12 AM  

edmo: Bontesla: The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?

You never know. They're in a big hurry to get out on their Easter vacation break.


The house already left for its Easter break.  After passing a budget that's DOA in the senate, naturally.
 
2013-03-23 12:00:40 PM  

Mrtraveler01: clowncar on fire: When they finally do get that one-time windfall, they blow it on an F-150, a Super Bowl extraveganza, and a bunch of other crap rather than paying off their debt.

All while asking for their boss for a pay cut.


Or perhaps quitting their job while telling the boss to go fark himself?  It is the most popular fantasy of lottery players, and fits the pattern of the GOP.

And as long as we're using the "household" analogy, as if that makes any damn sense, Keynesian economics, the theory demand-side democrat "dummies" subscribe to says that during rich economic times the government should save, rein in wasteful expenses like tax cuts and corporate welfare, and store away for bad times ahead.  Like saving for a rainy day when you just got a raise instead of dropping to part-time so you can "work on your music."

Republicans didn't want to do that.
 
2013-03-23 12:01:05 PM  
i512.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-23 12:02:05 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly. Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


Makes more sense than asking for less money...so the CEO can have more.
 
2013-03-23 12:03:31 PM  

cchris_39: Minarets: tenpoundsofcheese:
"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

It's like you're intentionally forgetting that we completely financed a $3 trillion invasion of another country and have no plan to pay it back except cutting funding to Planned Parenthood and NPR.  The scope of that number is way beyond the repair that cuts to discretionary spending can provide.

This is a little out there, but go with me on this one.

Next time we invade one of these countries, we take (buy) 100% of their oil production at $50 bbl and sell it on the open market until the war debt is paid.

By that logic, we'll have to maintain one hell of a large landscaping material supply- consisting mostly of decorative stone and sand if we are ever to cover the cost of Afghanistan.
 
2013-03-23 12:04:42 PM  
Cut the defense budget to pre-2000 levels. Get rid of DHS. Put the tax brackets where it was in 1998. Raise the capital gains tax to 25%.

Go with an across the board budget cut of 2.5% for every other department.

The end.
 
2013-03-23 12:07:04 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-23 12:07:48 PM  

clowncar on fire: It's cute how you believe the only source of revenue out there is by taxing the wealty more.  Not that I'm saying that they (the rich) probably couldn't be doing more for the country that has blessed them with so much, it's just I find it amusing that people actually believe that this is the ONLY way- that all hope rests upon their useless, unproductive, aristocratic shoulders.


STRAW MAN!  Sit down.  

We made the rich.  You want equalization?  Stop handing your money over to them.  Is having a i-phone more important than hiring that unemployed neighbor to come over and paint your house?  Do you need to party out on the deck of a Royal Carribean cruiser or staying in a chain of nationally syndicated hotels while visiting Disneland when you could keep that wealth local by partying with your friends every night in a locally owned tavern?  Maybe just forgo all those wealth exporting vacations and just pay your debts off so the interest won't accumulate.  By a tiny home and higher locals to fix it up with "green" material so that you won't have  to pay the oil giants to heat it.
.
Neither I nor "The Government" live extravagant and expensive lifestyles.  The whole reason I don't is a trickle-up economic system that has steadily crushed labor, shrunk wages, and squeezed the middle class.  And then there are the subsidies, which just CAN'T be cut (according to Republicans, who call them "tax hikes" half the time) which make oil and wasteful anti-green stuff control the market.  

But I want my high tech phones, a properly painted over sized non-eco friendly home, and my trips else where because I deserve them- even if it means it's all paid by the credit card of my choice.  YOU made them- you can un-make them.  But- like being on a diet-- it's a hell of a lot more pleasant gaining the weght than it is trying to lose it.

No, I can't.  I live as cheap as I can, and doing so is actually bad for the economy!  But I don't make the decision to continue handing billions to oil companies, Trillions to banks, and never force the Neofeudalist kleptocrats spend a day in jail when we have clear evidence they committed crimes.

Because of people like you, fighting the battles you fight and supporting the criminals you support.
 
2013-03-23 12:24:29 PM  

Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.


Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...
 
2013-03-23 12:26:16 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Krymson Tyde: Bontesla: The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?

It was dead the moment it passed.

GOP then: Raise taxes? How about we just close some loopholes?
Dems then: No I think we'll let the tax cuts expire for the rich, but we'll extend them for everyone else.

Dems now: Say, this time we won't ask to raise taxes, but how about we look at closing those loopholes you wanted to close last time around?
GOP now: Close loopholes? No way!


GOP, prior to January 1: We will not let the Bush tax cuts expire
GOP after January 1: We will let them expirefor those making over $400,000 raising @$600 billion in new revenue
Dems today: Not fair. We need more revenue
 
2013-03-23 12:30:01 PM  

bulldg4life: Cut the defense budget to pre-2000 levels. Get rid of DHS. Put the tax brackets where it was in 1998. Raise the capital gains tax to 25%.

Go with an across the board budget cut of 2.5% for every other department.

The end.


Actually, not that bad of a proposal. I would also get rid of the so called "Drug Czar" and subsequent department.
 
2013-03-23 12:42:34 PM  
The Republicans finally get what they say they want, so we get the pleasure of hearing them biatch about it for another two months.

Must be a day that ends in y...
 
2013-03-23 12:49:18 PM  
Nevermind that the budget is non-binding.
 
2013-03-23 12:51:27 PM  

Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.


I am so happy that I was alive to see the moon landing AND this great event.
Oh happy day!
 
2013-03-23 12:52:23 PM  

mikemoto: bulldg4life: Cut the defense budget to pre-2000 levels. Get rid of DHS. Put the tax brackets where it was in 1998. Raise the capital gains tax to 25%.

Go with an across the board budget cut of 2.5% for every other department.

The end.

Actually, not that bad of a proposal. I would also get rid of the so called "Drug Czar" and subsequent department.


You know if you got RID of EVERY government department (except DOD) it still would not make up for the deficit?

Government departments are not where the money goes, you are being fooled thinking that money is all going to bureaucrats. Very little money actually is.
 
2013-03-23 12:53:49 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

I am so happy that I was alive to see the moon landing AND this great event.
Oh happy day!


You still haven't explained why you think the budget is so important because it funds absolutely nothing and congress used to not pass one at all.

So explain to us what it actually does that is so important that it takes priority of actually paying the bills?
 
2013-03-23 12:54:38 PM  

clowncar on fire: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Actually you're right.

If you are in debt, one of the more common things for people to do is to either ask for a raise or get a second job to bring more revenue in.

I'm old school.

I just find ways of living within my budget by not buying crap I can't afford, making more efficient use of available resources I do have- either through limiting my use, or finding cheaper alternatives-- and cut out some of the services I can do without.  Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.


So you're for cutting the military budget?
 
2013-03-23 12:55:29 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: clowncar on fire: Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

And this, friends, is why the government budget is in no way like a household budget.


Oh geez, not this garbage again.
You are right that it isn't like a household budget since the average household can't force their employer to give them more revenue.
So the household actually has to be, I don't know, responsible?
 
2013-03-23 12:56:20 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: cameroncrazy1984: clowncar on fire: Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

And this, friends, is why the government budget is in no way like a household budget.

Oh geez, not this garbage again.
You are right that it isn't like a household budget since the average household can't force their employer to give them more revenue.
So the household actually has to be, I don't know, responsible?


No it doesn't. Never heard of credit cards?

Oops, failed again didn't you.
 
2013-03-23 12:58:24 PM  
Testiclaw

My post count fell by nearly half as well. It's like not having to walk neck deep through a puddle of shiat. Hallelujah!!!

/ Though oddly enough, many of the banned trolls appear at "random" occasionally. Modmins gotta keep the clicks up.......
 
2013-03-23 12:59:07 PM  

Corvus: tenpoundsofcheese: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

I am so happy that I was alive to see the moon landing AND this great event.
Oh happy day!

You still haven't explained why you think the budget is so important because it funds absolutely nothing and congress used to not pass one at all.

So explain to us what it actually does that is so important that it takes priority of actually paying the bills?


It is so cute that you think that the budget is created just to pay the bills.

"Honey, I bought all this garbage and wasted this money in Vegas, so we need to increase our budget to pay the bills"
 
2013-03-23 01:03:53 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Corvus: tenpoundsofcheese: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

I am so happy that I was alive to see the moon landing AND this great event.
Oh happy day!

You still haven't explained why you think the budget is so important because it funds absolutely nothing and congress used to not pass one at all.

So explain to us what it actually does that is so important that it takes priority of actually paying the bills?

It is so cute that you think that the budget is created just to pay the bills.

"Honey, I bought all this garbage and wasted this money in Vegas, so we need to increase our budget to pay the bills"


You know a lot of people actually do that right? They get a second job, etc.

I'm sure you'll have another retarded analogy to rebut this fact.
 
2013-03-23 01:05:30 PM  
How on Earth did this make it past a filibuster?
 
2013-03-23 01:06:06 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly. Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Makes more sense than asking for less money...so the CEO can have more.


blah, blah, blah...
tax all CEOs at 100% and how much of a difference will that make?
How will that create new jobs, improve the economy or keep the government from just spending more?
 
2013-03-23 01:07:51 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: tenpoundsofcheese: cameroncrazy1984: clowncar on fire: Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

And this, friends, is why the government budget is in no way like a household budget.

Oh geez, not this garbage again.
You are right that it isn't like a household budget since the average household can't force their employer to give them more revenue.
So the household actually has to be, I don't know, responsible?

No it doesn't. Never heard of credit cards?

Oops, failed again didn't you.


You think that using a credit card is the same as getting more revenue from your employer?
wow.  that is a major league fail (even for you since I grade you on a curve)
 
2013-03-23 01:09:12 PM  
FTA:  <i>Senators also went on record in support of the Keystone Pipeline, which the Obama administration has delayed due to environment concerns, and backed the withholding of wages for top White House budget staff for every day Obama fails to produce his budget plan. </i>

What do they call this then?
 
2013-03-23 01:09:35 PM  

cchris_39: I'd like to introduce an amendment that you have to actually spend less than you did last year before you can call use the term "cut".

/if you spend more, it's an increase


If they pass a bill where the technical language is something like "in Public Law blahblahblah subsection blahblahblah, line blah, strike the figure "N Billion dollars" and insert the figure "(N-1) Billion dollars", its not a cut?
 
2013-03-23 01:09:54 PM  

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: Corvus: tenpoundsofcheese: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

I am so happy that I was alive to see the moon landing AND this great event.
Oh happy day!

You still haven't explained why you think the budget is so important because it funds absolutely nothing and congress used to not pass one at all.

So explain to us what it actually does that is so important that it takes priority of actually paying the bills?

It is so cute that you think that the budget is created just to pay the bills.

"Honey, I bought all this garbage and wasted this money in Vegas, so we need to increase our budget to pay the bills"

You know a lot of people actually do that right? They get a second job, etc.

I'm sure you'll have another retarded analogy to rebut this fact.


You mean they are EARNING the money by taking a second job instead of FORCING their employer to give them more money for the same work?
I am not surprised that you don't see the difference.
 
2013-03-23 01:14:18 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: You mean they are EARNING the money by taking a second job instead of FORCING their employer to give them more money for the same work?


So you're saying we should conquer foreign lands and tax the citizens there to drive increased revenues instead of raising taxes here.  Very old school, 18th-century colonial chic.  I like it.
 
2013-03-23 01:16:00 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: clowncar on fire: Only once I've exhausted those venues would i then consider bringing in additional income through a second job.  At that point- the onus would be upon me to earn the extra incom and not tell my friends and family that they need to supplement my budget so I could continue to live beyond my means.

And this, friends, is why the government budget is in no way like a household budget.


It's EXACTLY like a household budget. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go mint some more fiat currency while selling no-interest bonds to my own bank to balance my checkbook.
 
2013-03-23 01:19:46 PM  

ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...


The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.
 
2013-03-23 01:23:14 PM  
If the US budget were like someone's household...

Democrats advocating asking for a raise, getting a second job, trying to get the wife to go look for work instead of being a stay at home mom while also cutting back on family vacations or nights out on the town instead of looking to cut the health insurance and gas money.

Republicans are looking to ask for a demotion at work so their boss can hire new employees, talking to the car dealership about a new car that they already planned on getting even though the dealership said their current car is fine and if they don't get it...then it's obvious they hate the troops, all the while sending their kids to school hungry and avoiding taking little Timmy to the dentist.

-----
If your budget argument includes cutting taxes and leaving the defense budget alone while trying to argue that planned parenthood and PBS are killing our financial future, then you are a disengenuous gas bag.
 
2013-03-23 01:25:51 PM  

bulldg4life: If the US budget were like someone's household...

Democrats advocating asking for a raise, getting a second job, trying to get the wife to go look for work instead of being a stay at home mom while also cutting back on family vacations or nights out on the town instead of looking to cut the health insurance and gas money.

Republicans are looking to ask for a demotion at work so their boss can hire new employees, talking to the car dealership about a new car that they already planned on getting even though the dealership said their current car is fine and if they don't get it...then it's obvious they hate the troops, all the while sending their kids to school hungry and avoiding taking little Timmy to the dentist.

-----
If your budget argument includes cutting taxes and leaving the defense budget alone while trying to argue that planned parenthood and PBS are killing our financial future, then you are a disengenuous gas bag.


This X 1000!!!

I'd love to see the retarded analogy they use as a rebuttal to that.
 
2013-03-23 01:27:38 PM  
Wow, tenpoundsoftroll really shiat all over this thread, didn't he.
 
2013-03-23 01:30:44 PM  
Run the federal government like a household budget!

For example, when I see that I don't have enough money to pay my bills, I tell the bastard who's been sleeping rent free on my couch since 2001 and robs my piggy bank to pay for weed/late night pay-per-view that it's time to man up and start paying for crap.
 
2013-03-23 01:39:49 PM  
Ok ok ok so of course a government cannot get a second job, but why can't it just find a second population to tax? That is right, we need to tax China. Why China? They have all the money!

What, it's no more ridiculous than systematically reducing taxes over years, crippling revenue, then blaming spending for all ills.
 
2013-03-23 01:45:42 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Corvus: tenpoundsofcheese: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

I am so happy that I was alive to see the moon landing AND this great event.
Oh happy day!

You still haven't explained why you think the budget is so important because it funds absolutely nothing and congress used to not pass one at all.

So explain to us what it actually does that is so important that it takes priority of actually paying the bills?

It is so cute that you think that the budget is created just to pay the bills.

"Honey, I bought all this garbage and wasted this money in Vegas, so we need to increase our budget to pay the bills"


No budgets do NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING. You obviously have no farking idea what you are talking about. The budget funds NOTHING but you seem to think it does.

Can you actually answer my question instead of keep dodging it?


Why do you think the budget is so important? It funds NOTHING. But you think it is more important for us to have a budget then it is to pay for our bills. Explain to us why a budget that is

"Honey , instead of paying our bills that are due  tomorrow and all our power will be shut off lets make a budget for next year!" - that's stupid and that's what you are saying we should do.
 
2013-03-23 01:48:41 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, I bought all this garbage and wasted this money in Vegas, so we need to increase our budget to pay the bills"


shiathead: One is the paying the bills of PREVIOUS SPENDING one is the budget of FUTURE SPENDING. Are you really too stupid to realize this.

Creating a new budget does not magically change the spending of the past.
 
2013-03-23 01:52:24 PM  
Well, actually, now that someone has spilled the beans about a European heathen demi-god having been behind it, absolutely nothing will get this bill passed in the House.
 
2013-03-23 01:54:29 PM  
So how much are the Republicans, who are obsessed with our "spending problem" are willing to cut from Defense Spending. Oh, they want to add $500 billion more in spending? good work.
 
2013-03-23 01:55:41 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: You think that using a credit card is the same as getting more revenue from your employer?
wow.  that is a major league fail (even for you since I grade you on a curve)


What on earth are you talking about? Go back and re-read what you posted again.

And then go take macroeconomics.

And then get in a rocket.

And point it toward Mars and stay there.
 
2013-03-23 01:56:37 PM  

The Name: European heathen demi-god


This one?

t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-23 01:59:26 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: cchris_39: I'd like to introduce an amendment that you have to actually spend less than you did last year before you can call use the term "cut".

/if you spend more, it's an increase

If they pass a bill where the technical language is something like "in Public Law blahblahblah subsection blahblahblah, line blah, strike the figure "N Billion dollars" and insert the figure "(N-1) Billion dollars", its not a cut?


I'm waiting for the final Orwellian plunge when a tax increase is called a tax cut.  "We wanted $2 trillion of your money but we've decided to only take $1 trillion, so we've cut your taxes by 50%.  Carry on happy citizen".
 
2013-03-23 02:01:49 PM  

Mrtraveler01: robotpirateninja: tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Honey, you have an aging population, just took a pay cut to fight two wars and can currently borrow money for free. We need to sell the house and kill the cow or you need to bring in more money.

Honey, we're swimming in debt. We should quit our jobs and live in the streets.


Honey, we should pop out kids that we know we can't afford, insist everyone else pay for them, and then demand they let us retire at age 65.  Because that is fair!
 
2013-03-23 02:04:13 PM  

what_now: Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, briefly stumbled over the Bill of Rights, citing the First Amendment for the right to bear arms. He quickly corrected himself, and blamed the late hour.

Jesus.


Eh, which of us hasn't said something equally stupid when caffeine-deprived. I'm more worried about what's going to finally emerge from the House...and if we'll have roads, education, or health care  left after that.
 
2013-03-23 02:04:54 PM  

cchris_39: I'm waiting for the final Orwellian plunge when a tax increase is called a tax cut.  "We wanted $2 trillion of your money but we've decided to only take $1 trillion, so we've cut your taxes by 50%.  Carry on happy citizen".


So what then do you call cutting out $600 billion of planned spending?
 
2013-03-23 02:05:04 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: tenpoundsofcheese: You think that using a credit card is the same as getting more revenue from your employer?
wow.  that is a major league fail (even for you since I grade you on a curve)

What on earth are you talking about? Go back and re-read what you posted again.

And then go take macroeconomics.

And then get in a rocket.

And point it toward Mars and stay there.


i1126.photobucket.com

"No, no, I'm OK here. Don't need any company. I've got this under control, thanks. I hear Venus is nice this time of year."
 
2013-03-23 02:06:01 PM  

beta_plus: Honey, we should pop out kids that we know we can't afford


So you support contraception then?
 
2013-03-23 02:06:28 PM  

clowncar on fire: cchris_39: By that logic, we'll have to maintain one hell of a large landscaping material supply- consisting mostly of decorative stone and sand if we are ever to cover the cost of Afghanistan.


Lol yes we would.  The Russians found Afghanistan a formidable foe too.  We're not very good at history, among other things.
 
2013-03-23 02:06:45 PM  

Irregardless: Kome: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly. Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

THAT'S IT! NO MORE ABORTIONS!

I'm thinking just the opposite - means testing for parents. If you can't afford a child it must be aborted or given up for adoption. More abortions!


Yay! Omelets!
 
2013-03-23 02:08:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: cchris_39: I'm waiting for the final Orwellian plunge when a tax increase is called a tax cut.  "We wanted $2 trillion of your money but we've decided to only take $1 trillion, so we've cut your taxes by 50%.  Carry on happy citizen".

So what then do you call cutting out $600 billion of planned spending?


Is it still an increase of the previous year? If so, that's an increase.

Trying to justify that as a spending cut is the most backwards thing I've heard.
 
2013-03-23 02:09:55 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: cchris_39: I'm waiting for the final Orwellian plunge when a tax increase is called a tax cut.  "We wanted $2 trillion of your money but we've decided to only take $1 trillion, so we've cut your taxes by 50%.  Carry on happy citizen".

So what then do you call cutting out $600 billion of planned spending?


The same as my wife telling me how much she "saved" at the big sale.  My credit cards still look worse.
 
2013-03-23 02:13:37 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.

Funny!  +1 for you.

"Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".


You realize the 1.2T was the Arbitrary cuts. They replaced arbitrary cuts that damage the nation and its security, with specific cuts, and this is a bad thing? The 1.2T in arbitrary cuts was Designed not to be replaced with specific cuts, it itself wasn't supposed to be the cuts.
 
2013-03-23 02:15:10 PM  
I expect it to be met in the House with all the joy and enthusiasm that the Democrats showed when voting on the Ryan budget.
 
2013-03-23 02:19:26 PM  

randomjsa: I expect it to be met in the House with all the joy and enthusiasm that the Democrats showed when voting on the Ryan budget.


Wah, why didn't the mean old Democrats just rubber stamp Paul Ryan's joke of a budget?
 
2013-03-23 02:20:07 PM  

randomjsa: I expect it to be met in the House with all the joy and enthusiasm that the Democrats showed when voting on the Ryan budget.


Lucky budgets legally do nothing at all. But some reason Republicans think are important.  It's like they want their followers to focus on something that basically has no meaning to ignore that they haven't done shiat.
 
2013-03-23 02:20:29 PM  

randomherp: I expect it to be met in the House with all the joy and enthusiasm that the Democrats showed when voting on the Ryan budget.


Both sides are bad!  HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
2013-03-23 02:27:20 PM  
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2013-03-23 02:42:51 PM  
Emposter

hey, love him or hate him, we can all agree he earns every cent of the money he is shilling for. The only time I even think about him is when someone changes his handle up so my filter doesn't block it. Every time fark WHINES about my Adblock, I just think about all that cheese the squirrel has already......

/actually I just laugh.....
 
2013-03-23 03:01:22 PM  

shotglasss: ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...

The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.


How does the President do that all on his own?  I didn't realize that he could unilaterally sign a budget with the House and Senate.
 
2013-03-23 03:05:05 PM  

ramblinwreck: shotglasss: ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...

The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.

How does the President do that all on his own?  I didn't realize that he could unilaterally sign a budget with the House and Senate.


English much? I wrote submit, which is what the law says. I never said anything about Ghett-O unilaterally signing a budget with the House and Senate, whatever that means.
 
2013-03-23 03:21:12 PM  

shotglasss: ramblinwreck: shotglasss: ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...

The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.

How does the President do that all on his own?  I didn't realize that he could unilaterally sign a budget with the House and Senate.

English much? I wrote submit, which is what the law says. I never said anything about Ghett-O unilaterally signing a budget with the House and Senate, whatever that means.


"Ghett-o" wow that's real classy.
 
2013-03-23 03:24:31 PM  

Corvus: shotglasss: ramblinwreck: shotglasss: ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...

The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.

How does the President do that all on his own?  I didn't realize that he could unilaterally sign a budget with the House and Senate.

English much? I wrote submit, which is what the law says. I never said anything about Ghett-O unilaterally signing a budget with the House and Senate, whatever that means.

"Ghett-o" wow that's real classy.


I like Fart-O myself.
 
2013-03-23 03:26:16 PM  

cchris_39: cameroncrazy1984: cchris_39: I'm waiting for the final Orwellian plunge when a tax increase is called a tax cut.  "We wanted $2 trillion of your money but we've decided to only take $1 trillion, so we've cut your taxes by 50%.  Carry on happy citizen".

So what then do you call cutting out $600 billion of planned spending?

The same as my wife telling me how much she "saved" at the big sale.  My credit cards still look worse.


Look at it this way. You budgeted $60 for gas this month and $70 for next month. You already planned on spending the $70. Your gas bill next month is $60. Did you save money or not?
 
2013-03-23 03:27:03 PM  

shotglasss: English much? I wrote submit, which is what the law says. I never said anything about Ghett-O unilaterally signing a budget with the House and Senate, whatever that means.


Why are you waiting for Obama to submit a budget? He literally doesn't have to do anything with a budget until one hits his desk. Budgets are not the President's responsibility.
 
2013-03-23 03:29:47 PM  
Passing a budget was a waste of time.  Republicans in the house have no interest in passing a reasonable budget.
 
2013-03-23 03:42:26 PM  

robotpirateninja: We need to sell the house and kill the cow or you need to bring in more money.


Can we just burn the house down?
 
2013-03-23 03:52:42 PM  

Corvus: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, I bought all this garbage and wasted this money in Vegas, so we need to increase our budget to pay the bills"

shiathead: One is the paying the bills of PREVIOUS SPENDING one is the budget of FUTURE SPENDING. Are you really too stupid to realize this.

Creating a new budget does not magically change the spending of the past.


But it does change current spending.

"If an agency has a billion-dollar budget and someone proposes cutting a dollar from its scheduled increase in funding, that dollar will be the one earmarked for the screw needed to keep a bridge from collapsing on a grade school's Thanksgiving parade."

That's the game.  Give a yard, but don't try to take an inch back (or reallocate).

Easiest way to make more money is to cut expenses.

Just a small appetizer ...
http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public//index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&File_id =a 7e82141-1a9e-4eec-b160-6a8e62427efb
 
2013-03-23 04:02:53 PM  

divx88: Easiest way to make more money is to cut expenses.


lolwut
 
2013-03-23 04:19:28 PM  

shotglasss: ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...

The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.


Start a letter writing campaign to draw up articles of impeachment. This is an outrage!
 
2013-03-23 04:25:27 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: divx88: Easiest way to make more money is to cut expenses.

lolwut


I know not only basic math is hard, but the majority of people only see more as more.

If I go to work every 5 days of every week and buy 1 coke that costs me a $1, that's $260/y or $2,600 in 10 years.  If I cut out the coke that's money I didn't spend that can be allocated elsewhere like an investment to increase passive income.

But the "make money" by cutting expenses comes from not having to spend additional time to generate $260.  Just cut something I don't necessarily need and that's not really good for me anyway.
 
2013-03-23 04:35:23 PM  
 
2013-03-23 04:46:43 PM  

edmo: Bontesla: The bill is likely DOA. Who wants to call time of death?

You never know. They're in a big hurry to get out on their Easter vacation break.


Never underestimate a Republican congressman's pathological need to commit petty obstructionism.
 
2013-03-23 05:23:42 PM  
I think the right way to look at the government's finances is to see if we are getting value for our dollar.

My wife and I will pay roughly $100k in federal income tax this year.  So where does it go?

$22k will go to Medicare, Medicaid, and HHS.  Given that US spending on health is twice what other countries pay, I feel safe saying that half of this money is wasted.

$20k will go to the military, so that they can bomb people in Pakistan and give large checks to defense contractors.  I consider this money 75% wasted.

$20k will go to Social Security.  Let's say half of this is to help others (I'm OK with that) and half to fund my retirement (I'd rather keep the cash).

$6k will go towards paying interest, which is pure waste.

So there's over $40k of my money down the drain, right there, providing no value to me or society.  In some cases it provides negative value.  Almost half of the money I pay in taxes is wasted.

Meanwhile, my state property and sales taxes pay for the roads, the police, the fire department, the schools.... the value you get for paying state taxes is obvious.

Do I want my federal taxes to go down, or up?  Neither really, I just want to feel that the Feds are spending my contributions wisely before holding their hand out for more.

Fix healthcare costs, cut defense in at least half, let me opt out of Social Security, and trim the fat from agencies used to perpetual budget increases... do that and I'm OK with my taxes going up.

I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way, either.
 
2013-03-23 05:25:02 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: cchris_39: I'd like to introduce an amendment that you have to actually spend less than you did last year before you can call use the term "cut".

/if you spend more, it's an increase

If they pass a bill where the technical language is something like "in Public Law blahblahblah subsection blahblahblah, line blah, strike the figure "N Billion dollars" and insert the figure "(N-1) Billion dollars", its not a cut?


It's math Republicans don't do to make themselves feel better.
 
2013-03-23 05:40:38 PM  

divx88: If I go to work every 5 days of every week


Thank you for playing "Comparing things that are nothing like the federal budget to the federal budget" what does  divx88win?
 
2013-03-23 05:56:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: divx88: If I go to work every 5 days of every week

Thank you for playing "Comparing things that are nothing like the federal budget to the federal budget" what does  divx88win?


When your audience barely has a grasp on basic arithmetic, you don't jump past it.
 
2013-03-23 06:02:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: divx88: Easiest way to make more money is to cut expenses.

lolwut


I think its code words for 'let 47% crawl off in the bushes and quietly die"
 
2013-03-23 07:12:19 PM  

divx88: cameroncrazy1984: divx88: If I go to work every 5 days of every week

Thank you for playing "Comparing things that are nothing like the federal budget to the federal budget" what does  divx88win?

When your audience barely has a grasp on basic arithmetic, you don't jump past it.


Wouldn't that be "jump passed it"?

My advice here is that you don't answer my rhetorical question... it is better to better to be thought a fool than to reply and remove all doubt.
 
2013-03-23 07:18:12 PM  
Ah, great.  The Senate managed to overcome a filibuster to pass a non-binding resolution to act as a guideline for the appropriations process (which is binding).  Awesome.  This is just as exciting as the time my own congressman managed to pass a resolution to name a post office after a local high school football coach.  Because both have the same amount of impact.

*yawn*  I'm proud of the democrats for managing to overcome the filibuster they should've defanged, but in the grand scheme, it doesn't matter.  The real meat is when the House passes the Appropriations Bill, then it goes to the Senate where it will be scribbled over with a red crayon pen and then the whole thing is handed over to reconciliation committee where they'll tack on a bunch of stupid shiat no one wants before they shove the meat through the grinder and stuff all that sludgey meat goo into the casing so we can enjoy the annual rat feces-filled sausage.

/government: it's just like making sausage
//in that it's disgusting
///and usually done by ugly sweaty men
 
2013-03-23 08:05:13 PM  

ColdFusion: government: it's just like making sausage


Strangely, I'm actually making sausage today.

/may be ugly and sweaty
 
2013-03-23 08:10:03 PM  

rohar: /may be ugly and sweaty


You or the sausage???
 
2013-03-23 08:12:36 PM  

JohnnyC: When your audience barely has a grasp on basic arithmetic, you don't jump past it.

Wouldn't that be "jump passed it"?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-23 08:41:00 PM  

JohnnyC: divx88: cameroncrazy1984: divx88: If I go to work every 5 days of every week

Thank you for playing "Comparing things that are nothing like the federal budget to the federal budget" what does  divx88win?

When your audience barely has a grasp on basic arithmetic, you don't jump past it.

Wouldn't that be "jump passed it"?

My advice here is that you don't answer my rhetorical question... it is better to better to be thought a fool than to reply and remove all doubt.


Sarcasm detector twitching...
 
2013-03-23 08:42:04 PM  

robmilmel: rohar: /may be ugly and sweaty

You or the sausage???


Its' an Italian sausage, so both?
 
2013-03-23 08:56:48 PM  
The GOP didn't fillibuster it this time?
 
2013-03-23 08:57:24 PM  
Why not put together a budget that quadruples the current tax rate, eliminates all tax avoidance schemes (if your rate is 40%, you pay 40%) and then cuts all spending? We could pay off the national debt in four years.
 
2013-03-23 09:00:15 PM  

Bucky Katt: The GOP didn't fillibuster it this time?


Fillibustering it would look really bad, and there's no reason for them to when they know it will never have a chance of passing the house in a form that is even recognizable.
 
2013-03-23 09:05:04 PM  

Bucky Katt: The GOP didn't fillibuster it this time?


They know it's DOA in the House. Mostly it sounded like the GOP trying to "fillibuster by amendment" by putting crank case legislation up for a fail vote over and over again while Reid and Patty Murray tried to maintain a semblance of order and decorum.

Speaking of whom, this got a  chuckle out of me...

Fun fact: As you watch Sen. Murray manage the floor over the next few hours and organize amendments, remember: She taught pre-school before she was elected to Congress.
 
2013-03-23 09:38:45 PM  

rohar: ColdFusion: government: it's just like making sausage

Strangely, I'm actually making sausage today.

/may be ugly and sweaty


It's a possibility, but there's no way you could be as ugly as the average senator.  I swear, they must make those guys like Uruk-hai.

Odds are you are a bit sweaty, though.  Making sausage by hand can be rough work.
 
2013-03-23 10:09:48 PM  

cchris_39: Vlad_the_Inaner: cchris_39: I'd like to introduce an amendment that you have to actually spend less than you did last year before you can call use the term "cut".

/if you spend more, it's an increase

If they pass a bill where the technical language is something like "in Public Law blahblahblah subsection blahblahblah, line blah, strike the figure "N Billion dollars" and insert the figure "(N-1) Billion dollars", its not a cut?

I'm waiting for the final Orwellian plunge when a tax increase is called a tax cut.  "We wanted $2 trillion of your money but we've decided to only take $1 trillion, so we've cut your taxes by 50%.  Carry on happy citizen".


Already happened, the Republicans started calling expirations on temporary tax holidays, "Tax hikes."

Meanwhile, adjusting for inflation or growth of the economy and population are offensive to you.
 
2013-03-23 10:25:00 PM  

starsrift: It's weird how the GOP wants to invoke the good times of 50's and 60's but ignores the high tax rates that were in place at the time. There is historical evidence that high(incentivized) taxes create growth.


That was also a time of government doing big, ambitious things designed to benefit everyone, like building the Interstate Highway System. Using government as an engine to do productive things that private industry wouldn't or couldn't do is against current Republican ideology. Never mind that that Interstate Highway System is named after a Republican.
 
2013-03-23 10:37:58 PM  
I feel the need to post this.....  because I think it may provide a bit of a non-partisan laugh and I think that is what it's all about.

Joe Biden saying the Pledge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1S9B_w5tg&list=UUJ_23WTESC-nervL3KF kb uQ&index=1
 
2013-03-23 10:47:49 PM  

cchris_39: This is a little out there, but go with me on this one.

Next time we invade one of these countries, we take (buy) 100% of their oil production at $50 bbl and sell it on the open market until the war debt is paid.


Never say things ever again. Trust me - it's for your own good.
 
m00
2013-03-23 10:48:37 PM  

cchris_39: I'd like to introduce an amendment that you have to actually spend less than you did last year before you can call use the term "cut".

/if you spend more, it's an increase


No no, a cut to proposed spending is a cut!
 
m00
2013-03-23 10:51:42 PM  

SomeAmerican: I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way, either.


Well, politicians feel different. Without all that waste, how would they hide corporate handouts to their lobbyists and campaign contributors?
 
2013-03-23 10:54:59 PM  
The government needs to, like, get off my couch and, like, get a second job, you know?
 
2013-03-23 10:55:20 PM  
the libs will shut down the budget in the House cuz they have been preventing a budget from being passed for 4 years and they hate america and love deficits
 
2013-03-23 11:03:42 PM  

falcon176: the libs will shut down the budget in the House cuz they have been preventing a budget from being passed for 4 years and they hate america and love deficits and their butts smell and they like to kiss their own butts


FTFY
 
2013-03-23 11:12:43 PM  
I make a whole bunch of money so I'm smart and that means that people should pay more attention to me and I deserve to get what I pay for and stuff.
 
2013-03-24 12:13:41 AM  

MadCat221: Never underestimate a Republican congressman's pathological need to commit petty obstructionism.


From the sounds of this whole thing, the only reason it didn't get filibustered into meeting the dinosaurs is because some GOP farknut attached a rider spending a $1.05 on research on autism rates in black neighborhoods for the sole purpose of House Republicans finding some excuse to kill it with fire.
 
2013-03-24 02:11:46 AM  
It was a nice gesture.    At least they tried.    But this thread was done in one.

It's DOA.

Obama never bothered to submit his WH proposal, so that will upset the cart.
The house won't approve.

Meh....the spending bills are already passed for the rest of the year anyway.

Basically.... tax more.    And we want to spend more.    A wash.   Nothing changed.
 
2013-03-24 04:25:34 AM  

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: "Honey, you have been buying too much junk, wasting money in Vegas, and spending money irresponsibly.  Go ask your boss for a big raise so we can fix this problem!".

Actually you're right.

If you are in debt, one of the more common things for people to do is to either ask for a raise or get a second job to bring more revenue in.


AND they reduce expenses so they can pay for the debt they currently have.
 
2013-03-24 08:58:40 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.


That's like saying they finally sold someone tickets for the maiden cruise on the Titanic.

/They just keep re-arranging the deck chairs.
 
2013-03-24 09:05:21 AM  
A budget that increases taxes by 1 trillion and increases spending by 200 billion. Totally balanced. Easy to balance when you count fake soending cuts and not count real spending increased. CBO claims 800 billion in deficit reduction yet the democrats lie about 2 trilliin in reductions. Simply don't count the spending increase from undoing the sequester! Liberals have made lying an artform.
 
2013-03-24 09:09:14 AM  

vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: The good:  975B in cuts.
The bad:    Canceled 1.2T in cuts

These jokers aren't even trying anymore.
But at least they finally passed a budget.

It's almost as though they are begining to realize that we have a revenue problem.


CBO projections have revenue at 19.1% of GDP next year. A full point above average. Stop lying. Spending is 4 points above average and stays there in the senate budget. Stop lying. Did I mention stop lying?

At all levels if government, they spent 39.8% of GDP last year. Highest in history. Stop lying.
 
2013-03-24 09:12:50 AM  

starsrift: It's weird how the GOP wants to invoke the good times of 50's and 60's but ignores the high tax rates that were in place at the time. There is historical evidence that high(incentivized) taxes create growth.


Nobody pays the nominal rate. The ignorance, it glows bright. There were many more loopholes. Tax revenue was lower then than estimates for 2015 when adjusted for GDP. Noticed how you didn't refer to the spending levels then.
 
2013-03-24 10:23:26 AM  

shotglasss: ramblinwreck: Silverstaff: FTFA: "You may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the Senate's finest days in recent years,"

*sigh*  Because they actually did something?  Because the Republicans didn't fillibuster something?  Because it was a moment of non-gridlock?

The first time in 4 damn years the Senate actually votes on a budget.  Yup, real high point in recent American history.

Can you look up in the Constitution where it says the Senate is supposed to draft the budget? Right, because it says the House...

The law also says the President is to submit a budget by Feb 1. We are still waiting for Obammy to submit his budget.


You mean this budget?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Overview

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/asse ts /budget.pdf
 
2013-03-24 10:31:11 AM  

MyRandomName: they spent 39.8% of GDP last year. Highest in history.


That's a lie

Stop lying.

Funny, that.
 
2013-03-24 10:54:54 AM  
The House has always passed budget resolutions. It's the Senate that that's had the problem. This particular budget, however, doesn't stand a chance.
 
2013-03-24 10:55:26 AM  
Now it turns to the House, where it will take an act of God

May I suggest fire ants?
 
2013-03-24 12:53:59 PM  

MyRandomName: A budget that increases taxes by 1 trillion and increases spending by 200 billion. Totally balanced. Easy to balance when you count fake soending cuts and not count real spending increased. CBO claims 800 billion in deficit reduction yet the democrats lie about 2 trilliin in reductions. Simply don't count the spending increase from undoing the sequester! Liberals have made lying an artform.


Can you point to the Republican budget that cuts spending in 2013 or even 2014?

Hell, Paul Ryan's budget doesn't balance for 30 years! And that's WITH all the magic fairy dust in it.
 
2013-03-24 04:19:24 PM  

GoSlash27: The House has always passed budget resolutions laden with poison pills, with absolutely no chance of passing the Senate, and sure to be vetoed by the president. It's the Senate that that's had the problem. This particular budget, however, doesn't stand a chance.


Gosh.
 
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