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(SeattlePI)   Veronica Mars Kickstarter campaign rattles movie industry. And by "rattles", they mean that Hollywood has just seen the perfect new way to fleece the marks out of more money that gimmicks like 3-D could never have delivered   (seattlepi.com) divider line 16
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2013-03-23 08:07:20 AM  
4 votes:
What a farking scam. Good for them.
2013-03-23 09:42:31 PM  
2 votes:

LemSkroob: MrEricSir: LemSkroob: Bit of a double-dip i guess. They only way it would make sense i guess would be if giving to Kickstarter was the same as pre-ordering a copy of the DVD. If you dont get a full copy of the movie, its a loss for you.

There's a little more to it than that. If it's a project you personally want to see made, there's the game theory aspect to it as well -- can you rely on others to fund it? That said, most of these crowdfunded project give you a copy if you donate over a certain funding level. For Veronica Mars, anyone who kicked in over $35 gets a copy of the film.

Which is pretty much buying a DVD copy twice.

Make it a $19.95 for a physical DVD when it comes out, and then i would bite. Like i had said, just make it a pre-order system. Paying more for something that is known to have a true value that is lower is just silly.



That doesn't make any sense. Then you're not funding the movie, you're just buying the dvd. If that's all you want, you can do that after the movie has been made. Which is only happening thanks to those fans that donated.
kab
2013-03-23 12:30:49 PM  
2 votes:
How is this fleecing the market subby?

If anything, every form of entertainment out there should be funded this way.   Fewer folks lose money, and consumers get exactly what they want / deserve.
2013-03-23 08:14:14 PM  
1 votes:

alwaysjaded: Another precedent that will be set is the amount of whining of fan boys if this movie isn't one of the greatest films ever made. Considering the amount of righteous outrage you see when a nostalgia trip type movie doesn't measure up to expectations for a ticket price of $8-12, but when fans are shelling out 10 grand? Some pharmaceutical company is going to get rich inventing a cream needed to soothe those ruffled feathers.

Look at what happened with Serenity.


...I don't know any Firefly fan that didn't think Serenity was at least good.  Some took issue with the exposition and the death of certain characters, but they didn't condemn it like the Trek fanboys have with the reboot movie, and are already doing with Reboot II: The Wrath of the Fanboys.
2013-03-23 02:40:04 PM  
1 votes:
I don't think re-doing Firefly is a good idea at this point, but it was a pretty big universe, easily large enough to tell a different story in.

I was all set to hate Stargate: Atlantis, but it turned out pretty decent. Same for SGU.
2013-03-23 02:09:50 PM  
1 votes:
"hey, give us money to make something" "hey thanks, now give us money to watch it"

Bit of a double-dip i guess. They only way it would make sense i guess would be if giving to Kickstarter was the same as pre-ordering a copy of the DVD. If you dont get a full copy of the movie, its a loss for you.
2013-03-23 01:37:30 PM  
1 votes:
So basically, in the future we'll all have to pre-pay for movies before they'll be made.

Great.
2013-03-23 01:21:28 PM  
1 votes:
Did they? I don't have cable anymore and never got into that show when i did.
2013-03-23 01:08:58 PM  
1 votes:
Wtf is 'veronica mars'? It's drawing a lot of bizarre comparisons, but the name makes me think it's some low-rent Sex and City knockoff.

I could google it, I know, but I thought I'd ask since everyone here seems to love it?

/no, lmgtfy isn't farking funny or helpful, before you post it
//fellow consumer feedback is important and helpful in defining a genre above and beyond what generic press conference marketing can tell me
2013-03-23 12:15:07 PM  
1 votes:
Nobody seems to want to do the math on this. Veronica mars will do 10 - 15 million tops. After distribution costs, marketing and theaters taking their cut, the actual profit is something like 6 million. Still a profit sure, but not exactly the 100s of millions Hollywood likes. This isn't something Hollywood can do long term and make a mint off of.
2013-03-23 12:07:14 PM  
1 votes:
When is Kristen Bell going to pose nude?
2013-03-23 11:38:15 AM  
1 votes:

jake_lex: I never saw Firefly as a show that was going to be able to go 100+ episodes without getting lame, anyway


I could see Whedon's "everyone is so clever and sarcastic" dialog getting old fast. It certainly did with Buffy. A lot of otherwise good writers have the problem of all their characters speaking in the same voice. See also Aaron Sorkin, Kevin Smith, Tarantino.
2013-03-23 11:17:14 AM  
1 votes:

Ennuipoet: I like reading Joss Whedon's reactions to this.  On the one hand he's a booster, on the other you can hear the hesitation in his tone about revisiting Firefly.  I can sympathize, as much as I love Firefly I respect the desire to move forward and not be shackled to previous projects.  It's like he balancing on a razor blade trying to keep the fans happy while at the same time telling them it ain't gonna happen.


I liked Firefly as much as the next nerd but it's over. Almost all of the cast has new gigs (has whatever show Summer Glau is on been canceled yet?) and Whedon's going to be tied up with Marvel for at least the next decade. Anyway, they tied things up pretty nicely in the movie no one saw.
2013-03-23 10:54:51 AM  
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: thamike: A complete list of associate producer credits is available upon request.

Selling associate producer credits? That's an insult to the thousands of people who have sucked a dick over the years to get an associate producer credit.


If you're sucking a dick for an associate producer credit, you need to find a new meth dealer.
2013-03-23 09:02:24 AM  
1 votes:
I like reading Joss Whedon's reactions to this.  On the one hand he's a booster, on the other you can hear the hesitation in his tone about revisiting Firefly.  I can sympathize, as much as I love Firefly I respect the desire to move forward and not be shackled to previous projects.  It's like he balancing on a razor blade trying to keep the fans happy while at the same time telling them it ain't gonna happen.
2013-03-23 07:59:04 AM  
1 votes:
Another precedent that will be set is the amount of whining of fan boys if this movie isn't one of the greatest films ever made. Considering the amount of righteous outrage you see when a nostalgia trip type movie doesn't measure up to expectations for a ticket price of $8-12, but when fans are shelling out 10 grand? Some pharmaceutical company is going to get rich inventing a cream needed to soothe those ruffled feathers.

Look at what happened with Serenity.

/ I liked Serenity but I watched the whole series and the movie in one weekend.
 
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