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2013-03-23 08:00:41 AM
Want to buy a rare copy of Sgt. Pepper, signed by all four Beatles?

No.
 
2013-03-23 08:28:14 AM
what's a Beatle
 
2013-03-23 08:37:12 AM
I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.
 
2013-03-23 08:40:07 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: what's a Beatle


It's a Volkswagen, but that's not important right now.
 
2013-03-23 10:33:02 AM
Um, yeah, sure. I think I have that much right here in my pocket...
 
2013-03-23 10:48:10 AM

Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.


I prefer signed copies of albums so obscure no one has ever heard of them.
 
2013-03-23 10:49:29 AM

rhiannon: Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.

I prefer signed copies of albums so obscure no one has ever heard of them.


I'll trade my signed vinyl of the Residents' "Mark of the Mole".

Signatures:
Resident
Resident
Resident
Resy Dent
 
2013-03-23 10:50:22 AM

Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.


I'd rather have an album by a band who wasn't really overrated.  Doesn't mean The Beatles weren't great, of course.
 
2013-03-23 11:10:16 AM

Smackledorfer: I'd rather have an album by a band who wasn't really overrated. Doesn't mean The Beatles weren't great, of course.


This.  When you say that they were over-rated people take it to mean they sucked or had no lasting impact.  The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.

//Later stuff was great.
 
2013-03-23 11:12:49 AM
 
2013-03-23 11:14:41 AM

mjbok: Smackledorfer: I'd rather have an album by a band who wasn't really overrated. Doesn't mean The Beatles weren't great, of course.

This.  When you say that they were over-rated people take it to mean they sucked or had no lasting impact.  The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.

//Later stuff was great.


That argument can be made, sure.  But you can't deny that formula works.  It worked for the Beatles and every 'boy band' since then.  At least they wrote their own lyrics and played their own instruments.

The kind of music may be simplistic, but people like that, otherwise the records wouldn't sell right?
 
2013-03-23 11:19:31 AM

mjbok: The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.


I almost got my ass kicked when I said The Beatles were the first boy band. My dad can be an asshole.

/although admittedly even in their boy band years they still played their own instruments
 
2013-03-23 11:24:10 AM

Kimpak: mjbok: Smackledorfer: I'd rather have an album by a band who wasn't really overrated. Doesn't mean The Beatles weren't great, of course.

This.  When you say that they were over-rated people take it to mean they sucked or had no lasting impact.  The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.

//Later stuff was great.

That argument can be made, sure.  But you can't deny that formula works.  It worked for the Beatles and every 'boy band' since then.  At least they wrote their own lyrics and played their own instruments.

The kind of music may be simplistic, but people like that, otherwise the records wouldn't sell right?


I have friends that I used to play guitar with, lo something like 20 years ago during the height of the "Bach Rock" era, where every guitar player wanted to be Yngwie Malmsteen or something like that.

At the time, I was playing much simpler stuff like AC/DC.   I was forever pointing out that sometimes, less is more, and that even someone known for excessive guitar wankage like Jimi Hendrix knew that (listen to "Fire", for example).  Just piling 32nd note upon 32nd note in some obscure minor mode may be technically outstanding, but nobody outside of other guitar players is going to listen to it.
 
2013-03-23 11:32:55 AM

dittybopper: I have friends that I used to play guitar with, lo something like 20 years ago during the height of the "Bach Rock" era, where every guitar player wanted to be Yngwie Malmsteen or something like that.

At the time, I was playing much simpler stuff like AC/DC. I was forever pointing out that sometimes, less is more, and that even someone known for excessive guitar wankage like Jimi Hendrix knew that (listen to "Fire", for example). Just piling 32nd note upon 32nd note in some obscure minor mode may be technically outstanding, but nobody outside of other guitar players is going to listen to it.


I had a phase where I tried to play like Yngwie or Vai. Then I realized that classical and rock just don't really mix. Okay, I realized that I couldn't do those farking arpeggios but the other is true as well.
 
2013-03-23 11:49:39 AM
Every time I see autographed memorabalia, I just assume that it's a forgery, because it probably is.
 
2013-03-23 11:54:35 AM

Mugato: mjbok: The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.

I almost got my ass kicked when I said The Beatles were the first boy band. My dad can be an asshole.


/although admittedly even in their boy band years they still played their own instruments


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They had boy bands in the 50's, just not white ones.
 
2013-03-23 12:01:33 PM

HempHead: Mugato: mjbok: The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.
I almost got my ass kicked when I said The Beatles were the first boy band. My dad can be an asshole.
/although admittedly even in their boy band years they still played their own instruments
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They had boy bands in the 50's, just not white ones.


Hey that was one of my dad's favourite bands. Us kids used to make fun of them because I'm pretty sure every one of their songs started with the same guitar intro. Wow haven't thought about that for years.
 
2013-03-23 12:28:39 PM

rhiannon: Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.

I prefer signed copies of albums so obscure no one has ever heard of them.


I preferred my signed copies of albums so obscured that not even the band has heard of them yet.
 
2013-03-23 12:52:12 PM

Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.


Then you're something of an idiot.  After the Beatles stopped touring, it was rare to get them all together in the same place at the same time, so getting all four signatures on anything after 1966 is very rare.  Someone on the Antiques Roadshow brought in a letter sent to his father in April 1970 which was signed by all four Beatles, which would have been one of the last things they all signed, outside of legal docs.
 
2013-03-23 12:58:36 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.

Then you're something of an idiot.  After the Beatles stopped touring, it was rare to get them all together in the same place at the same time, so getting all four signatures on anything after 1966 is very rare.  Someone on the Antiques Roadshow brought in a letter sent to his father in April 1970 which was signed by all four Beatles, which would have been one of the last things they all signed, outside of legal docs.


How much it go for?
 
Slu
2013-03-23 01:20:44 PM
If you are older than 12, you should not care about autographs.  Especially ones you didn't get yourself.

And Abbey Road is the best Beatles record. Much better than Pepper.
 
2013-03-23 01:23:41 PM

Slu: If you are older than 12, you should not care about autographs.  Especially ones you didn't get yourself.


t3.gstatic.com

Disagrees
 
2013-03-23 01:34:14 PM

Summoner101: How much it go for?


They appraised it and a box set of the original Apple Records singles (a fairly rare item) for $60,000.  Most of that was the letter and the appraiser felt it would go higher.
 
2013-03-23 01:47:57 PM
Here's an item. Now here's that same item signed by a famous person. Isn't that the greatest thing ever?

/no
 
2013-03-23 02:11:18 PM

mjbok: Smackledorfer: I'd rather have an album by a band who wasn't really overrated. Doesn't mean The Beatles weren't great, of course.

This.  When you say that they were over-rated people take it to mean they sucked or had no lasting impact.  The fact is much of their music is boy band crap with simplistic lyrics and entry level music complexity.

//Later stuff was great.


Thing is, the early stuff wasn't boy band for the time. They were using jazz chords and odd timing at a time when no one in their genre was. As everyone else started catching up, bang, Revolver comes out.
 
2013-03-23 02:12:02 PM
CSB:

My mom has a picture of the beattles signed by all four members. Won't sell it 'til John's dead. They're the same age though, and since he has access to medical treatments that she never will, I'm not sure she's thought her cunning plan all the way through.
 
2013-03-23 02:13:20 PM

Slu: If you are older than 12, you should not care about autographs.  Especially ones you didn't get yourself.

And Abbey Road is the best Beatles record. Much better than Pepper.


Revolver
Abbey Road
Pepper
 
2013-03-23 02:14:15 PM
Mugato:
I had a phase where I tried to play like Yngwie or Vai. Then I realized that classical and rock just don't really mix. Okay, I realized that I couldn't do those farking arpeggios but the other is true as well.

Yeah, but Malmsteen and Vai lack the style and balls to pull that kind of thing off. It can be done, just listen to IN Rock and Machine Head by Deep Purple.
 
2013-03-23 02:15:28 PM

8 inches: CSB:

My mom has a picture of the beattles signed by all four members. Won't sell it 'til John's dead. They're the same age though, and since he has access to medical treatments that she never will, I'm not sure she's thought her cunning plan all the way through.


Um... Dude? John?

Thatsthejoke.jpg ?
 
2013-03-23 02:18:51 PM

8 inches: Won't sell it 'til John's dead.


Then you should do her a favor and shoot him.
 
2013-03-23 02:41:02 PM
Nah. My brother-in-law's been trying to sell HIS for years:

http://rockartcollectibles.blogspot.com/p/pictures.html

That really is my BIL's Sgt. Pepper album signed by all four Beatles.
 
2013-03-23 02:43:45 PM

dramboxf: Nah. My brother-in-law's been trying to sell HIS for years:

http://rockartcollectibles.blogspot.com/p/pictures.html

That really is my BIL's Sgt. Pepper album signed by all four Beatles.


How much?
 
Slu
2013-03-23 03:08:42 PM

Principal Clarinet: Slu: If you are older than 12, you should not care about autographs.  Especially ones you didn't get yourself.



Disagrees


I have no idea who that is.
 
2013-03-23 03:10:57 PM

Mugato: 8 inches: Won't sell it 'til John's dead.

Then you should do her a favor and shoot him.


Whoops, meant Paul.


/still drunk.
 
2013-03-23 03:15:48 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Nabb1: I'd rather have a signed copy of one of their albums that wasn't really overrated.

Then you're something of an idiot.  After the Beatles stopped touring, it was rare to get them all together in the same place at the same time, so getting all four signatures on anything after 1966 is very rare.  Someone on the Antiques Roadshow brought in a letter sent to his father in April 1970 which was signed by all four Beatles, which would have been one of the last things they all signed, outside of legal docs.


Nabb wanting something more rare than less rare makes him 'something of an idiot'?
 
2013-03-23 03:16:58 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: How much?


If you're serious, I'll ask him. That website has all his rock art that he wants to sell. Some Rolling stones, a few Hendrix, some Cream, and the Pepper's. I know he wanted $110k for the whole lot a while ago. I'll ask him if what he wants to sell the Pepper for.

Be warned: He thinks he's a master negotiator.
 
2013-03-23 03:18:34 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: How much?


I know he sold his Höfner signed by Paul for $60k, though.
 
Slu
2013-03-23 03:19:05 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Slu: If you are older than 12, you should not care about autographs.  Especially ones you didn't get yourself.

And Abbey Road is the best Beatles record. Much better than Pepper.

Revolver
Abbey Road
Pepper


I think Revolver is overrated like Pepper, personally.

Abbey Road
White Album
Rubber Soul
 
2013-03-23 03:41:15 PM

Stupid Guitar: Mugato:
I had a phase where I tried to play like Yngwie or Vai. Then I realized that classical and rock just don't really mix. Okay, I realized that I couldn't do those farking arpeggios but the other is true as well.

Yeah, but Malmsteen and Vai lack the style and balls to pull that kind of thing off. It can be done, just listen to IN Rock and Machine Head by Deep Purple.


I don't like all his stuff, but you can't deny (well, everyone's tastes differ so maybe you can) that this rocks.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=far+beyond+the+sun&page= &u tm_source=opensearch
 
2013-03-23 03:41:50 PM

dramboxf: Waxing_Chewbacca: How much?

I know he sold his Höfner signed by Paul for $60k, though.


Just curious... Don't have the scratch. How did he get the Album and this Hoffner?
 
2013-03-23 03:47:40 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Just curious... Don't have the scratch. How did he get the Album and this Hoffner?


He's been a self-employed sales rep his entire career. About 10 years ago he started his own line, these charm bracelets that had custom-designed letter charms that you could use to spell words. They were a gigantic hit, and he made millions.

...and promptly spent it on his hobbies, one of them being rock art. My understanding is that all of the stuff that he wants to sell now he bought during this period when vacationing in Hawaii through a broker. It all comes with certs of authenticity. He was also a musician in a previous life, but nowhere near as successful as his older brother, Roddy Jackson.
 
2013-03-23 03:57:56 PM

Slu: If you are older than 12, you should not care about autographs.  Especially ones you didn't get yourself.


For me, to each their own.  I get why people collect things.  But personally, I've never found autographs to be interesting at all.  Anytime I meet someone famous, I've never though to ask for an autograph.
 
2013-03-23 04:00:53 PM

dramboxf: Nah. My brother-in-law's been trying to sell HIS for years:

http://rockartcollectibles.blogspot.com/p/pictures.html

That really is my BIL's Sgt. Pepper album signed by all four Beatles.


If those are real, and all signed with the same pen as it appears, it would be rarer than the one at auction. That's a U.S. cover, and they were never all together in the U.S. after it was released. Somebody would have to have either brought it to the U.K. (or to India in the 10 days before Ringo went home) or bought an exported copy. That can't have happened often.
 
2013-03-23 04:03:19 PM

Hoopy Frood: If those are real, and all signed with the same pen as it appears, it would be rarer than the one at auction.


I took those photographs myself. (The bedspread that can be seen in some of the pics is actually on our bed at this exact moment.) The back of the Sgt Pepper's frame has the cert of authenticity attached. In fact, I scanned them all at one time, and might still have them (I'll look around and see if I can find it.) If that's true, he'd be really glad to hear it. Maybe I should tell him to get in touch with an auction house.
 
2013-03-23 04:34:31 PM

Hoopy Frood: If those are real,


Found the cert I scanned. Dated 2003, by Donald Frangpani, "Examiner of Questioned Documents." He says he examined the sigs and they are consistent with known samples. Another one from the "Gallery of Celebrity Fine Art" signed by Gerard Marti says 1) the work of art certified above is guaranteed as represented, and if its ever proven a fake or forgery, they'll refund 100% the purchase price.
 
2013-03-23 04:35:20 PM
My wife was in a record store in the 80's and some girl actually said out loud "wait, Paul McCartney was in a band BEFORE Wings?!?!?"
 
2013-03-23 04:38:58 PM
..and Marti has been linked to selling fake Beatles memorabilia.

Ah well.
 
2013-03-23 05:22:20 PM

Smackledorfer: Nabb wanting something more rare than less rare makes him 'something of an idiot'?


Not understanding that Sgt Pepper's (no matter what you think of it) is rarer signed than Please Please Me, and therefore more valuable certainly does.
 
2013-03-23 05:25:32 PM

dramboxf: Nah. My brother-in-law's been trying to sell HIS for years:

http://rockartcollectibles.blogspot.com/p/pictures.html

That really is my BIL's Sgt. Pepper album signed by all four Beatles.


If he really wants to sell it, he needs to get it out of that awful frame with the "gold" record; it makes the whole think look cheap and suspect.
 
2013-03-23 05:37:35 PM
If I met paul, I would ask if we could sing the we can work it out chorus together. I have John's range. That would be cool.
 
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