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(NYPost)   Air traffic controllers picked a good week to keep sniffing glue   (nypost.com ) divider line
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2013-03-22 06:28:43 PM  
Can I sue the federal government in federal court now?
 
2013-03-22 06:29:44 PM  
Nice work subby
/I shook Lloyd Bridges hand once. Friendly, with a warm, genuine smile.  Good guy.
 
2013-03-22 06:29:48 PM  
weeklyworldnews.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-22 06:30:08 PM  
It's a good thing the Sequester won't affect anyone's daily lives, otherwise I'd be pissed.
 
2013-03-22 06:31:03 PM  
The tower? What is it?
 
2013-03-22 06:31:19 PM  
Something about the sequester bothers me... I can't figure out exactly what, though.
 
2013-03-22 06:35:22 PM  
We have no tower, sir.
 
2013-03-22 06:36:34 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: The tower? What is it?




Its a tall building where they keep princesses in distress, but that's not important right now...
 
2013-03-22 06:36:54 PM  
Actually, strictly speaking won't they have picked next week to keep sniffing glue?

//as a timekiller, rather than a stress reliever.
 
2013-03-22 06:37:47 PM  
Maverick: Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby.
Tower: ........
 
2013-03-22 06:38:01 PM  
Nothing special here. Lots of small airports have no resident ATC. All they they are doing is moving the bar up somewhat. When they start eliminating ATC at airports like Atlanta, or JFK, then THAT would be interesting.

A four way stop taxiway at JFK would be fascinating, to say the least.
 
2013-03-22 06:39:08 PM  
That was a great landing but the runway is over there.
 
2013-03-22 06:39:41 PM  
These are little airfields.  We aren't talking about JFK or Chicago-O'Hare.  Plenty of podunk fields don't have towers now.  That's what you have a CTAF for.  Pilots can talk to each other and will have no real problems.  These are most likely tiny fields that had part time towers anyway, and that even when they have the towers running, see a handful of GA flights a day.  Closing some congressman's pork barrel tower at some tiny municipal airport probably isn't a bad thing.
 
2013-03-22 06:41:59 PM  

FlyPanAm: It's a good thing the Sequester won't affect anyone's daily lives, otherwise I'd be pissed.


All departments have been instructed to make whatever cuts they have to do just that so don't worry they will get to you eventually.

/How was that?
//I'm thinking of changing my handle to Minn Kota
 
2013-03-22 06:42:13 PM  
It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience altogether.
 
2013-03-22 06:42:45 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience altogether.


It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience altogether.
 
2013-03-22 06:43:23 PM  
Oops.
It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience.
 
2013-03-22 06:43:24 PM  
It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience
 
2013-03-22 06:44:51 PM  
You guys rock.
 
2013-03-22 06:46:50 PM  
Most of them have no controllers at night so it's SOP to use CTAF.  There are a LOT more non-towered airports than towered ones.  And A LOT more towered airports that are empty at certain times of the day.    This is why GA aircraft operators hate FAA decisions to force them into the system and them charge them a fee for services that only airlines want.  There will be no noticeable difference at these towers.
 
2013-03-22 06:47:32 PM  
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2013-03-22 06:49:26 PM  
It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience
 
2013-03-22 06:52:45 PM  

rkiller1: It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience


Takeoffs and landings are different. What's your point?  lol
 
2013-03-22 06:53:49 PM  
This is the crux of modern "conservatism"... this is why they propose general cuts, but never anything specific. Though there is certainly pork to be cut (that never will be cut, see the F-35 program or the C-130 program), the reality is that much of federal government provides critical services on a daily basis, and without nearly the overhead people talk about. From the critically understaffed aircraft control towers to the wildland firefighters who don't get health insurance to USDA inspectors who get fractions of a second to inspect our meat and poultry, our country has so vilified working for the government that they've lost track of what it is the government does. Just like the "cut the post office budget" gets translated into morons voting to mandate 6 day service, but with some magical and ethereal budget (much like the 30 year pension funding that requires funding pension plans for people you haven't even hired)... the new "conservatives" only want to slash services for the poor, hungry, and sick... they want the government to do all the things it does right now for them, they just don't want to pay for it.
 
2013-03-22 06:55:00 PM  
the new list is a little better but still stings in the pee hole.

btw, planes land 100% time without tower assistance. tower just gives them the go/nogo ahead...and then their phone number if the pilot screwed up.

/enjoy your future threads of cirrus and bonanza midairs
 
2013-03-22 06:55:14 PM  

milowitz: We have no tower, sir.


No tower?
 
2013-03-22 06:58:21 PM  

firefly212: This is the crux of modern "conservatism"... this is why they propose general cuts, but never anything specific. Though there is certainly pork to be cut (that never will be cut, see the F-35 program or the C-130 program), the reality is that much of federal government provides critical services on a daily basis, and without nearly the overhead people talk about. From the critically understaffed aircraft control towers to the wildland firefighters who don't get health insurance to USDA inspectors who get fractions of a second to inspect our meat and poultry, our country has so vilified working for the government that they've lost track of what it is the government does. Just like the "cut the post office budget" gets translated into morons voting to mandate 6 day service, but with some magical and ethereal budget (much like the 30 year pension funding that requires funding pension plans for people you haven't even hired)... the new "conservatives" only want to slash services for the poor, hungry, and sick... they want the government to do all the things it does right now for them, they just don't want to pay for it.


You sound angry.  Can't we all just enjoy our Friday?
 
2013-03-22 07:01:05 PM  
"All of the affected airports will remain open. Pilots will be left to coordinate takeoffs and landings among themselves over a shared radio frequency with no help from ground controllers. That's something they are trained to do..."

... and is normal, everyday practice at thousands of airports already.
Such as over Macho Grande.
 
2013-03-22 07:01:23 PM  

firefly212: Though there is certainly pork to be cut (that never will be cut, see the F-35 program or the C-130 program)


Uh, what? F-35 I could agree with but the C-130 has been around for about 60 years and has proven to be a pretty versatile aircraft.
 
2013-03-22 07:03:11 PM  
So Obama is trying to rip off St. Ronnie?
 
2013-03-22 07:07:31 PM  
I flew back to the NYC area (EWR) last Saturday from Cabo and let me tell you, this sequester shiat is for REAL. The airport in Cabo was a TRAIN WRECK. Almost didn't make our flight. And when we landed, the Customs area had at least 1,000 people in it. There were THREE, 3, trois, tres agents for all those people. Luckily, I was able to, um... use some connections (hey, desperate times and all that...) to get around that little issue.

I chatted with a Customs agent about the situation and he said that many workers are being forcibly furloughed and that there is now no OT available. It's a bare bones deal.

Thanks Congress! And by "thanks" I mean "fark you."
 
2013-03-22 07:09:06 PM  
It's ok, they're flying on instruments

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-22 07:12:57 PM  
FTFA: "That's something they are trained to do, but airport directors have raised concerns about the potential impact on safety."

[frysawwhatyoudidthere.jpg]
 
2013-03-22 07:13:45 PM  

Zeno-25: firefly212: Though there is certainly pork to be cut (that never will be cut, see the F-35 program or the C-130 program)

Uh, what? F-35 I could agree with but the C-130 has been around for about 60 years and has proven to be a pretty versatile aircraft.


The USAF stopped asking for C-130s decades ago, it has proven to be versatile because congress has continually jammed the USAF with hundreds of unwanted crappy cargo planes because they want the jobs of making those planes. The USAF has done a good job with adapting those planes to many roles, but they just aren't up to date, and congress incessant biatching about using the C130 for everything ends up forcing the USAF and DoI to use them for firefighting, even though the wings rip right off under the high stress of aerial firefighting operations. Ultimately, people die so defense contractor buddies can keep making money off of selling the US crappy old technology that wouldn't hold a candle to a Bombardier 415 or 415 MP
 
2013-03-22 07:16:58 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hedLTEbhjJ0

When congress manages aircraft buying operations.
 
GBB
2013-03-22 07:17:32 PM  

Treygreen13: Maverick: Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby.
Tower: ........

Sure, do whatever the fark you want.  Ain't nobody in there.
 
2013-03-22 07:38:38 PM  
Poor airports loosing their subsidies.

/We do give them a lot of money and support.
 
2013-03-22 07:40:20 PM  
Janesville airport is on the list to be cut.  Wouldn't be surprised if someone in Congress gets a little less bootstrappy.
 
2013-03-22 07:42:53 PM  
www.surfingtheapocalypse.net
 
2013-03-22 07:44:36 PM  
The fewer airports we have, the faster we get flying cars.
 
2013-03-22 07:53:42 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: The fewer airports we have, the faster we get flying cars.


win/win
 
2013-03-22 07:54:19 PM  
It will be an entirely different takeoff and landing experience altogether.
 
2013-03-22 08:09:43 PM  

devildog123: These are little airfields.  We aren't talking about JFK or Chicago-O'Hare.  Plenty of podunk fields don't have towers now.  That's what you have a CTAF for.  Pilots can talk to each other and will have no real problems.  These are most likely tiny fields that had part time towers anyway, and that even when they have the towers running, see a handful of GA flights a day.  Closing some congressman's pork barrel tower at some tiny municipal airport probably isn't a bad thing.


I can think of a couple "executive" airports on the east coast that see maybe 3 planes a day but have 24 hour or near 24 hour tower operations. Those guys should be the first to go.
 
2013-03-22 08:24:05 PM  
Hey, you know what they say: "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, gotta' leg 'er down and smack 'em yak 'em! Cold GOT ta be. Sheeeeit."

/golly
 
2013-03-22 08:53:53 PM  

Hawnkee: Hey, you know what they say: "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, gotta' leg 'er down and smack 'em yak 'em! Cold GOT ta be. Sheeeeit."


Beaver's Mom, sigh...
 
2013-03-22 08:55:48 PM  
Oskhosh?  Really?  I hope they have plans for at least seasonal staffing.

/Or the City of Oshkosh goes wild on buying spree getting a couple of dozen fire trucks and rescue units.
 
2013-03-22 08:57:10 PM  
[thanks-obama.gif-that's-under-488-kb]

/you have NO IDEA how hard they are to find
 
2013-03-22 09:05:32 PM  
Just call out your approach!
willystreetblog.com
 
2013-03-22 09:08:23 PM  
Reagan would be proud.

/Obscure?
 
2013-03-22 09:10:00 PM  
Oh good. Keep the TSA going but fire the ones really in charge of safety and day to say operations of you know, flying

/ I know these are small airports but still
// you guys rock tonight
/// roger Rodger, what's your vector Victor?
 
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