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(Mother Jones)   Who's better at their gaydar, liberals or conservatives? Guess, go on, guess. You might be surprised   (motherjones.com) divider line 31
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2013-03-22 02:11:32 PM
7 votes:
My gaydar detects gays 100% of the time.  I do this by assuming that everyone is gay.
2013-03-22 04:25:48 PM
3 votes:

victrin: Hell I'm gay and my gaydar is sometimes wrong. Some people just don't come off as gay, and some that do happen to be straight.


or maybe your gaydar is 100% accurate and they just pretend to be not gay cuz you ugly? :)
2013-03-22 02:36:08 PM
3 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Conservatives make snap judgements, liberals assume there is more than meets the eye.


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GAY TRANSFORMERS!

ROBOTS IN DISGUISE IN THE CLOSET!
2013-03-22 01:59:52 PM
3 votes:
Location, location, location

/if you're talking airport men's rooms, cons win in a foot tap
2013-03-22 05:41:37 PM
2 votes:
I would guess liberals, since conservatives can't tell the difference between a gay man and an undercover cop in the next bathroom stall over.
2013-03-22 03:06:59 PM
2 votes:
Gaydar is what people used back in the 80's.


These days we use Homometers (Ho-mom-iter).  It will give you a much more accurate reading.
2013-03-22 03:05:59 PM
2 votes:
So basically when liberals stop thinking they become conservative?
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-03-22 02:32:15 PM
2 votes:
the_dude_abides:

so you're saying that liberals are better critical thinkers than conservatives because you don't stereotype. and then you proceed to stereotype conservatives. brilliant.

It's like someone stereotyping racists by claiming that they are all bigots.
2013-03-22 02:26:59 PM
2 votes:

make me some tea: skullkrusher: based on pictures alone? That's pretty hard.

I would think it'd be nearly impossible. It's a lot easier to determine if someone is gay by their demeanor than their physical attributes, but even that's not an accurate measurement.

The study was apparently crafted to determine the mental process which each person uses to arrive at their decision.


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Looks straight, not

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on the other hand...

CSB: My grandmother somehow saw this album cover at my house one day and exclaimed "Dear Jesus, that's a motley crew." My mother found this absolutely hysterical.
2013-03-22 02:19:04 PM
2 votes:

Uzzah: skullkrusher: based on pictures alone? That's pretty hard.

That's what she said!

Or he, if you'd prefer.


or both, bigot
2013-03-22 07:27:23 PM
1 votes:
Finally a study shows conservatives are good at something and they're still not happy.
2013-03-22 06:52:24 PM
1 votes:

the_dude_abides: and do you believe that either side has facts and science on their side as a matter of course?


Depends how you define "sides." If it's Republicans vs Non-Republicans, then 'yes.' One side has facts and science as a matter of course.

Republicans have turned into a cult, and a good part of being a member of that cult is actively denying reality.
2013-03-22 06:49:47 PM
1 votes:

skozlaw: the_dude_abides: uhh, none of those studies you posted were peer reviewed. hell, only the first url links to the study (and only the abstract, the full text is not available), the other two link to op-ed pieces on political sites. hell, even the guys who conducted the study say the results were inconclusive and should not be taken literally. and yet here you are, spinning it for political purposes. that is exactly what I mean by pseudo-science, dirty little hacks like you making inferences that aren't there. sorry, nice try. seriously, did you even read the text of the links you posted??? lol

Instead of even attempting to refute anything presented to you, you've gone off on a hysterical tangent attacking the studies because of the sites that were reporting on them, claiming they're psuedo-science (even though you claim at the same time that you can't even read them) and that people citing them are "dirty little hacks" involved in some left-wing conspiracy to discredit conservatives using methodology akin to phrenology and eugenics.

Way to disprove the idea that conservatism is based on lazy, irrational, reactionary thinking...


Bears repeating.
2013-03-22 06:44:55 PM
1 votes:

the_dude_abides: uhh, none of those studies you posted were peer reviewed. hell, only the first url links to the study (and only the abstract, the full text is not available), the other two link to op-ed pieces on political sites. hell, even the guys who conducted the study say the results were inconclusive and should not be taken literally. and yet here you are, spinning it for political purposes. that is exactly what I mean by pseudo-science, dirty little hacks like you making inferences that aren't there. sorry, nice try. seriously, did you even read the text of the links you posted??? lol


Instead of even attempting to refute anything presented to you, you've gone off on a hysterical tangent attacking the studies because of the sites that were reporting on them, claiming they're psuedo-science (even though you claim at the same time that you can't even read them) and that people citing them are "dirty little hacks" involved in some left-wing conspiracy to discredit conservatives using methodology akin to phrenology and eugenics.
 

Way to disprove the idea that conservatism is based on lazy, irrational, reactionary thinking...
2013-03-22 04:24:57 PM
1 votes:

victrin: Hell I'm gay and my gaydar is sometimes wrong. Some people just don't come off as gay, and some that do happen to be straight.


How queer.
2013-03-22 03:37:42 PM
1 votes:

the_dude_abides: namatad: this adjusting of views is exactly what we liberals claim is the difference between us and the gops. this adjusting views, or critical thinking is also why we turn away from religion and conservatism. we want re-evaluate the world and make changes and improvements. they dont want to think.

so you're saying that liberals are better critical thinkers than conservatives because you don't stereotype. and then you proceed to stereotype conservatives. brilliant.


No, the study basically found that if you cause liberals to do additional mental tasks above what a republican has to then they think at about the same level.  So in other words:  Republicans are as dumb normally as a liberally that is already thinking about something + what the Republican is thinking about.

Funny how a test about Gaydar proves previous assertions that Republicans on average are dumber than liberals.
2013-03-22 03:11:59 PM
1 votes:

Ambivalence: As a woman, I can't pick out a lesbian to save my life. I don't care if women are gay...at all.  As for men, my capacity for caring extends only insomuch as I feel guilty when i find out i am lusting after a gay man.


In college, it became a running joke with a friend and I - I'd be chatting up some cute girl at a party, my friend would come up to me later and say "You know she's gay, right? Yep, big ol' dyke." More often than not, my friend had also already hooked up/slept with her.

Don't feel guilty. Feel angry because they inadvertently wasted your time.

// not really, I just kept complaining that I had no gaydar
// might also have hurt the numbers that I went to lots of Rocky Horror parties
2013-03-22 02:57:55 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: MaxxLarge: Maybe it's just that increasingly, Lefties don't really give a $#!+ what your sexual orientation is, because it doesn't really define you.

This.  I'm married and faithful (not on the prowl).  I could really care less what anyone's sexuality is.


How much less could you care, pray tell?
2013-03-22 02:56:13 PM
1 votes:

the_dude_abides: ah yes, here comes the pseudo-science. 100 years ago it was phrenology and eugenics, now it's liberals ratfarking the scientific method for their own retarded political gains.


Yes because republicans are so good at things like math and science
2013-03-22 02:53:12 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: vernonFL: skullkrusher: based on pictures alone? That's pretty hard.

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It depends on the picture.

That is hilarious because when I was a kid all the toughest kids loved Judas Priest and wore the band's T-shirts.  They were considered very badass.  If you said the guys in that band were gay they would think you were on drugs and you would probably get a beating for suggesting it.  Donny Osmond, Rod Steward and Rene Simard (Quebec) were considered to be homosexual even though (I believe) are actually straight.

I remember thinking George Michael was straight.  That is how farked up my gaydar was.


I think everyone thought GM was straight.
I remember thinking that Justin Bieber was gay. Turns out he's a lesbian so I was right, just in the wrong direction.
2013-03-22 02:52:36 PM
1 votes:
Conservatives seem to elect a lot of gay-bashers who turn out to be secretly gay.  I'd say their "gaydar" is completely broken.
2013-03-22 02:51:08 PM
1 votes:

brap: Gay, gay, gay, gay for pay, gayer, gayest, Gaylord Perry, Gay Divorcee, limp-wristed pantywaist, butch powerdom, gay, did him, did me, 50 Shades of Gay, twink, Slurpee Jones of Manlord Mountain,...


LEONARD BERNSTEIN
2013-03-22 02:49:01 PM
1 votes:
I found out one of my co-workers was gay after knowing her for months and had no idea.  It's funny in retrospect, she wore rainbow earrings all the time, I even commented on them once.  She attended and participated in drag shows, was a member of some gay pride club, and we'd chat about gay issues and shiat all the time.  So yeah, my gaydar is farking terrible but it's probably because I don't care.
2013-03-22 02:41:34 PM
1 votes:

the_dude_abides: so you're saying that liberals are better critical thinkers than conservatives because you don't stereotype. and then you proceed to stereotype conservatives. brilliant.


It's not a stereotype if it really is broadly true. Multiple studies now have concluded that conservative thinking is dominated by low effort, fear, low IQ and now stereotyping.

The evidence increasingly suggests that conservatism, social conservatism in particular, may simply be the result of inferior brain structure.
Bf+
2013-03-22 02:35:33 PM
1 votes:
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Lemme guess...
2013-03-22 02:30:25 PM
1 votes:

barneyfifesbullet: MaxxLarge: Maybe it's just that increasingly, Lefties don't really give a $#!+ what your sexual orientation is, because it doesn't really define you.

What you are is all the left cares about. It defines every single thing they do.


As opposed to Conservatives who don't give a crap about anyone else.
2013-03-22 02:30:08 PM
1 votes:
skullkrusher:
CSB: My grandmother somehow saw this album cover at my house one day and exclaimed "Dear Jesus, that's a motley crew." My mother found this absolutely hysterical.

Did you then get into the "Who? Yes. The Band!" debate from Aimaniacs?
2013-03-22 02:12:15 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: I would guess conservatives, since they're constantly looking for gay guys for various reasons.


Yep.

Conservatives know their own.
2013-03-22 01:56:54 PM
1 votes:
2013-03-22 01:43:09 PM
1 votes:

make me some tea: "When the researchers ran the study again with one key modification, they were able to come up with an intriguing answer to this question. This time around, roughly half of the test subjects were required to remember a bit of gibberish-"7T4$RF%"-and type it in after every five faces that they saw. Obviously, this exercise is highly distracting-and that's precisely the point. It took up thinking bandwidth-and when thus distracted, liberals behaved just as the conservatives had in the first study. Now, they too relied on gender stereotypes to decide whether individuals were gay or straight.

In other words, it appears that liberals and conservatives alike snap to initial, stereotypical judgments about a person's sexual persuasion based on facial features. But liberals then engage in a more elaborate thinking process and often adjust their views away from the stereotype-at least when they're not distracted."

Now THAT is interesting.


ok
can I get a simul-post for posting exactly the same thing-same time on FB?

but seriously
this adjusting of views is exactly what we liberals claim is the difference between us and the gops. this adjusting views, or critical thinking is also why we turn away from religion and conservatism. we want re-evaluate the world and make changes and improvements. they dont want to think.

would be interesting to rerun the test, and ask the respondents to go back and think again about their choices, trying not to stereotype this time.
2013-03-22 01:37:41 PM
1 votes:
"When the researchers ran the study again with one key modification, they were able to come up with an intriguing answer to this question. This time around, roughly half of the test subjects were required to remember a bit of gibberish-"7T4$RF%"-and type it in after every five faces that they saw. Obviously, this exercise is highly distracting-and that's precisely the point. It took up thinking bandwidth-and when thus distracted, liberals behaved just as the conservatives had in the first study. Now, they too relied on gender stereotypes to decide whether individuals were gay or straight.

In other words, it appears that liberals and conservatives alike snap to initial, stereotypical judgments about a person's sexual persuasion based on facial features. But liberals then engage in a more elaborate thinking process and often adjust their views away from the stereotype-at least when they're not distracted."


Now THAT is interesting.
 
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