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(The Register)   "The helpless user can do nothing but watch on in horror as their work gets dragged into the spectral shadows, their deadlines ripped to fleshy shreds and their very souls consumed in the vile and bestial depths of hell". But enough about Word   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 50
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2013-03-22 02:27:59 PM
the ultimate user experience
 
2013-03-22 02:32:56 PM
That would be one of the more positive reviews of recent Word versions that I've seen.
 
2013-03-22 02:36:17 PM
Alistair Dabbs is a freelance technology tart, juggling IT journalism, editorial training and digital publishing. He apologises for opting for an easy target in taking another pop at Microsoft Word. However, he feels entitled to offer personalised critiques on products he purchased with his own cash. Call it 'feedback', you bodding sastards.

Douche.
 
2013-03-22 02:37:02 PM
 
2013-03-22 02:39:53 PM
I thought this was about creative projects. Any of them.
They'll get neutered and blandified by any meddling manager, and then the client of course, using their zero-know-how.
 
2013-03-22 02:41:05 PM
(tl;dr)

Fortunately I haven't had any long and complex documentation assignments lately.  MS Word's style gallery and headline tier functionality has left me banging my head on the desk multiple times.  When another user edits such a document, I'm likely to tear down the building with the desktop I've ripped from the cubicle wall.
Stick some frames in that farking thing and I'm super-fly TNT.

/Michael Bolton, cube farm tough guy extraordinaire
 
2013-03-22 02:42:53 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


Because their employers paid for it?

/uses google docs at home.
 
2013-03-22 02:46:03 PM
Today's Vaudeville act is Word's famous Amazing Vanishing Toolbar.

Waitasec -- are they still using 2003? MS did away with "toolbars" with the 2007 release and replaced them with the "ribbon" (which sucks).

/there are no more "menus" in the traditional sense either.
 
2013-03-22 02:52:36 PM

Arkanaut: Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?

Because their employers paid for it?

/uses google docs at home.


Yeah, I use WOrd and Excel (Excel more.) at work because, well, that's all they got.
 
2013-03-22 03:01:27 PM

PizzaJedi81: Arkanaut: Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?

Because their employers paid for it?

/uses google docs at home.

Yeah, I use WOrd and Excel (Excel more.) at work because, well, that's all they got.


"The Man" wanted me to use MS Office. I said "Man, what I look like to you - a closed-source corporate whore? NOTEBOOK, BIATCH! I THREW IT ON THE GROUND!"

// I ain't a part of your system
// maaaaaaaaaaaaaan
 
2013-03-22 03:02:24 PM
HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons
 
2013-03-22 03:05:57 PM

mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons


I use Michael Shrayers Electric Pencil on TRS-DOS!
 
2013-03-22 03:12:02 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


Virtual hi-five!

/Openoffice and Wordperfect FTW!
 
2013-03-22 03:12:30 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


Because documents shared with customers and clients need to be able to be opened and read?

Also, Open Office is dildos. LibreOffice picked up the torch.
 
2013-03-22 03:12:48 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


Because Openoffice is a farking joke for anyone with even moderate needs from their office suite.   I run Excel spreadsheets that literally cause OfficeCalc to choke and die.
 
2013-03-22 03:14:43 PM

Mr. Eugenides: mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons

I use Michael Shrayers Electric Pencil on TRS-DOS!

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I use WordStar under CP/M on an Osborne 1...
 
2013-03-22 03:16:00 PM

KulkulkanX: Wordperfect


Hold on, does that actually still exist?
 
2013-03-22 03:16:42 PM

gizmogle: Mr. Eugenides: mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons

I use Michael Shrayers Electric Pencil on TRS-DOS!
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I use WordStar under CP/M on an Osborne 1...


www.nottingham.ac.uk
 
2013-03-22 03:28:59 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


Because they already know how to use them and it's a major pain trying to figure out how to do the same thing in OpenOffice.
 
2013-03-22 04:11:37 PM
At a previous job i had a macro setup in excel that had to be used multiple times on a daily basis.  About 10% of the time, the macro would process everything in less than 5 seconds, and the other 90% it would take well over a half hour.

Extensive research found that it was an excel bug in multiprocessor systems - if i remember correctly it was something benign - the command to auto-adjust column width to fit; microsoft was aware, but there was no fix or patch beyond disabling multithreaded performance in excel.  Given that my machine was quad core, this was a little annoying in concept, but i figured it wouldn't make a noticeable slowdown, and besides it was only a single app.

So, I disabled the multithreading option, and everything worked fine for about two weeks -- until the next automatic update for Office was released.  This update included a new bug that made the multithreading checkbox non functional.  Namely, I couldn't turn multithreading off.

So, I had to go into the BIOS and disable three of the four cores on the processor to make the issue go away.

Note: This was in Office 2003.  When the company finally decided to upgrade to 2007, I was thrilled, as a new version released in and programmed for an environment with far more multicore systems shouldn't have such a serious defect...  right?

Wrong...

How any software company can take a hardware feature that drastically improves performance and instead turn it into something that seriously detracts from system performance - and then leave it in for years between multiple versions - is beyond my comprehension.

Countless other such annoying issues spring to mind with ease.  I wish corporate upper management would stop buying the expensive big-name stuff because it's expensive and big name, and go instead with the free open source alternatives that actually work as intended...  then I wouldn't ever have to deal with this kind of shiat on a daily basis anymore

Microsoft causes a significant amount of the daily stress I have to deal with, and they can collectively EABOD and DIAF for all I care.
 
2013-03-22 04:37:51 PM
Why can MS understand that users DONT FARKING LIKE TO HAVE THE GUI CHANGED!

Now if they came up with something that was a substantial improvement then offer users a choices of the old or new GUI and let users figure out which works best for themselves.  I know apple fanboys  will praise anything with an i in front and exclaim how great each new change is but MS users just want to get to the same stuff the same way they did yesterday.
 
2013-03-22 04:56:30 PM

gizmogle: Mr. Eugenides: mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons

I use Michael Shrayers Electric Pencil on TRS-DOS!
----------------------
I use WordStar under CP/M on an Osborne 1...


Well if you want to use that new fangled stuff it's no skin off my nose.
 
2013-03-22 05:02:44 PM
 
2013-03-22 05:07:50 PM

Rent Party: Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?

Because Openoffice is a farking joke for anyone with even moderate needs from their office suite.   I run Excel spreadsheets that literally cause OfficeCalc to choke and die.


This. I have to use OpenOffice at work because my boss doesn't want to spend the money on MS Office. Every single one of the applications has some very frustrating bugs and lacks basic features or requires difficult workarounds.
 
2013-03-22 05:10:03 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


How da hell else am I gonna right my letters 'n' shiat, yo?
 
2013-03-22 05:11:18 PM

Arkanaut: Today's Vaudeville act is Word's famous Amazing Vanishing Toolbar.

Waitasec -- are they still using 2003? MS did away with "toolbars" with the 2007 release and replaced them with the "ribbon" (which sucks).

/there are no more "menus" in the traditional sense either.


If you spend an hour or so, you can get Word 2011 "look and feel" like the one of old that you are used to, keyboard shortcuts and all.

Of course, they haven't fixed any of the persistent bugs (like broken X-Refs) since the 2003 version.  Just did some window dressing.

So, never fear!  You can still have the same shiat, hair-pulling experience as you've always had, even without the stupid "ribbon."
 
2013-03-22 05:27:02 PM

serial arseonist: Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?

How da hell else am I gonna right my letters 'n' shiat, yo?


media.techeblog.com
Still classic
 
2013-03-22 05:53:15 PM
Use an AutoDesk product for a month, you'll never complain about quirks and instabilities in a MS product ever again.
 
2013-03-22 05:55:22 PM

Mr. Eugenides: gizmogle: Mr. Eugenides: mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons

I use Michael Shrayers Electric Pencil on TRS-DOS!
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I use WordStar under CP/M on an Osborne 1...

Well if you want to use that new fangled stuff it's no skin off my nose.


I used my Wang 1200 Word Processor...

/Wang .... huh, huh, huh, huh... I said Wang... twice.

Seriously though.... I did use Speedscript on my C64 and C128.
 
2013-03-22 05:57:00 PM

Thingster: Use an AutoDesk product for a month day, you'll never complain about quirks and instabilities in a MS product ever again.


/FTFY
 
2013-03-22 06:02:14 PM
After reading the article I want surfing around looking for alternatives to Word (with reviews and prices).
I use OpenOffice at home. Guess I'll look into libreoffice, Scrivner for PC. What makes them better?

Dat's right, I'm aksing a question, yo.
 
2013-03-22 06:35:58 PM
Want to make MS Office even worse? Get Office@Work and you'll receive crappy templates, reduced responsitivity, and an some additional and completely illogical functionality. All this and more for the lousy price of a few 10'000 dollars.
 
2013-03-22 06:42:19 PM

Arkanaut: Today's Vaudeville act is Word's famous Amazing Vanishing Toolbar.

Waitasec -- are they still using 2003? MS did away with "toolbars" with the 2007 release and replaced them with the "ribbon" (which sucks).

/there are no more "menus" in the traditional sense either.


so glad to still be running word 2003
 
2013-03-22 07:13:02 PM

pute kisses like a man: Arkanaut: Today's Vaudeville act is Word's famous Amazing Vanishing Toolbar.

Waitasec -- are they still using 2003? MS did away with "toolbars" with the 2007 release and replaced them with the "ribbon" (which sucks).

/there are no more "menus" in the traditional sense either.

so glad to still be running word 2003


Soon MS will disable your "ability" to read .DOCX documents, forcing you to "upgrade."  Even though there are no new features to speak of.

Have a day.
 
2013-03-22 07:34:50 PM

red5ish: After reading the article I want surfing around looking for alternatives to Word (with reviews and prices).
I use OpenOffice at home. Guess I'll look into libreoffice, Scrivner for PC. What makes them better?

Dat's right, I'm aksing a question, yo.


Scrivener is not a word processor as such. It is a text editor which is organized for creating books and plays.

LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice, and IMHO is better supported.
 
2013-03-22 07:42:38 PM
Toolbars suck.
 
2013-03-22 07:54:29 PM
VI FOR LIFE!!!!
 
2013-03-22 08:27:11 PM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


I detest Word. I LaTeX everything, even documents with no math in them.
 
2013-03-22 08:34:32 PM
LibreOffice/OpenOffice and Google Docs are fine if you don't need to create anything more complex than a college term paper or a family budget spreadsheet. For serious business users there's no real replacement for MS Office.
 
2013-03-22 09:33:35 PM

LeftCoast_eh: red5ish: After reading the article I want surfing around looking for alternatives to Word (with reviews and prices).
I use OpenOffice at home. Guess I'll look into libreoffice, Scrivner for PC. What makes them better?

Dat's right, I'm aksing a question, yo.

Scrivener is not a word processor as such. It is a text editor which is organized for creating books and plays.

LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice, and IMHO is better supported.


It'd be hard not to be better supported. After Oracle bought Sun, they are actively trying to kill Open Office.
 
2013-03-22 10:18:21 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-22 10:26:54 PM

mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons

I've recently rediscovered WordPerfect, it makes for an excellent 'distraction free' experience once you put DOSBox in to full screen mode.

And for tarting up the document pretty much anything can open a WP5 document.
 
2013-03-22 11:17:23 PM

bbqsandwich: LibreOffice/OpenOffice and Google Docs are fine if you don't need to create anything more complex than a college term paper or a family budget spreadsheet. For serious business users there's no real replacement for MS Office.


WordPerfect

But then MS spread so much FUD that it effectively was killed, though you can still get it.

/LOVE reveal codes
 
2013-03-22 11:46:58 PM
ahhhhh devil ether
 
2013-03-23 01:29:06 AM

red5ish: After reading the article I want surfing around looking for alternatives to Word (with reviews and prices).
I use OpenOffice at home. Guess I'll look into libreoffice, Scrivner for PC. What makes them better?

Dat's right, I'm aksing a question, yo.


Also look into Kingsoft Office. Versions available for PCs and Android.
 
2013-03-23 03:44:15 AM

Petey4335: Why does anyone still use word, excel or access?


Because I can get it installed on my personal computer free from work, on the off-chance I might do something work related at home.  And OpenOffice feels like the equivalent of the bookcase I cobbled together from scrap lumber.
 
2013-03-23 10:14:21 AM
Sure the hell isn't for this guy:
  cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-03-23 10:30:46 AM

Mofo_Jones: Sure the hell isn't for this guy:
  [cache.ohinternet.com image 480x480]


Clippy was the last in office 2003. As I recall, he went in with office 97 which means he's been gone longer than he was there.

It's time to let it go.
 
2013-03-24 03:31:45 AM
No love for Easyscript by the looks. If it doesnt load from a170k floppy then its bloatware.
 
2013-03-24 06:56:15 PM

Mr. Eugenides: mark12A: HA! I use Electric Desk in MSDOS! Ha!

/HATE "new" versions of Office where they just re-arrange buttons

I use Michael Shrayers Electric Pencil on TRS-DOS!


Easyscript on the C64 FTW.
 
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