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(NYPost)   NY state lawmakers rush a gun-control law through that prohibits the sale of magazines that can hold more than seven bullets without checking to see if anybody makes seven-bullet magazines   (nypost.com) divider line 219
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2013-03-22 03:23:11 PM  

BayouOtter: Princess Ryans Knickers: DrRatchet: only impact law-abiding gun owners

like that Sandy Hook shooter. A law abiding, NRA, good Christian

The guy that murdered his mother, stole her property, and broke a score of laws before he killed some kids? The guy that tried, and failed to lawfully acquire weapons? The one that, if investigated after failing his background check might have been stopped? That guy?


Technically didn't he inherit that rifle upon her death?
 
2013-03-22 03:25:48 PM  

mrshowrules: BayouOtter: mrshowrules: Giltric: It is up to the NRA to craft more gun laws as a form of compromise with the gun control crowd?

Would it be up to pro abortion groups to pass better restrictions on abortion?

WTF people?

Pro-choice groups consistently are the only group advocating policies to reduce abortions (single payer, sex ed, birth control access).

Countries with more liberal policies have few abortions.

In the case of guns, the NRA and gun enthusiasts on the other hand have offered absolutely nothing to reduce gun violence in society.

Yeah, because gun-related policies correct systemic racism, generational poverty, the drug war, broken mental/physical health care systems, and income inequality. Granted, those things would effect all violence, but if you think being shot to death sends you to Super-Hell as opposed to the regular hell of a knifing, then you might have a point.

You completely missed the point of the exchange.  What has the GOP done to reduce   racism, generational poverty, the drug war, broken mental/physical health care systems?

At least pro-choicers promote other solutions to reduce abortion.


You're confusing republicans with pro-gun advocates. There's pro gun people on both sides of the aisle. This is partially why the awb was doa.
 
2013-03-22 03:29:26 PM  

Rapmaster2000: First of all, subby, they're not called MAGAZINES.  They're called CLIPS.  Calling a clip a magazine tells me that you know nothing about guns and are possibly a homosexual.


Bad troll, Bad troll.. now go sit in the corner and think about what you done.
 
2013-03-22 03:37:49 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: demaL-demaL-yeH: CptnSpldng: demaL-demaL-yeH: hardinparamedic: Woohoo!!! M1911s for everybody!!!!!

M1911: For those rare times when you don't have a shotgun.

/Just this once, I'll admit that it's difficult to find a good holster for a 12GA.

And where am I gonna find a plug to limit the magazine for a Lee-Enfield?

Doesn't apply unless the magazine is detachable and there's another "scary" feature.
Enfields and Garands are exempt.

Enfields' have a detatchable magazine and a bayonet lug.


1. They're C&R.
2. You load them with stripper clips. Swapping magazines to reload is a Very, Very, Extremely Bad Idea(TM).
 
2013-03-22 03:39:26 PM  

mrshowrules: BayouOtter: Princess Ryans Knickers: DrRatchet: only impact law-abiding gun owners

like that Sandy Hook shooter. A law abiding, NRA, good Christian

The guy that murdered his mother, stole her property, and broke a score of laws before he killed some kids? The guy that tried, and failed to lawfully acquire weapons? The one that, if investigated after failing his background check might have been stopped? That guy?

Technically didn't he inherit that rifle upon her death?


Not a probate attorney, but I am relatively sure that.....oh, thanks, Wikipedia.

The slayer rule, in the common law of inheritance, is a doctrine that prohibits inheritance by a person who murders someone from whom he or she stands to inherit (e.g., a murderer does not inherit from parents he or she killed). In calculating inheritance of the decedent's estate, the effect of the slayer rule was that the slayer would be treated as though he or she had predeceased the person who had been murdered, therefore his or her share of the estate would pass to his or her issue.  While convicting someone of the crime of murder requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the slayer rule applies to civil law, not criminal law, so it is only necessary to prove the wrongful killing by a preponderance of the evidence, as in a wrongful death claim. This means that even a slayer who is acquitted of the murder in criminal court can still be divested of the inheritance by the civil court administering the estate.
 
2013-03-22 03:45:02 PM  

Doom MD: You're confusing republicans with pro-gun advocates. There's pro gun people on both sides of the aisle. This is partially why the awb was doa.


I said "NRA/ gun enthusiasts" originally.  There are pro-choicers on both sides of the aisle also.  Generally speaking, pro-choicers generally have other ideas to help.  Gun nuts (in general and on both sides of the aisle) don't bring anything useful to the table.

The AWB is DOA because of politics.
 
2013-03-22 03:52:21 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Fish in a Barrel: demaL-demaL-yeH: CptnSpldng: demaL-demaL-yeH: hardinparamedic: Woohoo!!! M1911s for everybody!!!!!

M1911: For those rare times when you don't have a shotgun.

/Just this once, I'll admit that it's difficult to find a good holster for a 12GA.

And where am I gonna find a plug to limit the magazine for a Lee-Enfield?

Doesn't apply unless the magazine is detachable and there's another "scary" feature.
Enfields and Garands are exempt.

Enfields' have a detatchable magazine and a bayonet lug.

1. They're C&R.
2. You load them with stripper clips. Swapping magazines to reload is a Very, Very, Extremely Bad Idea(TM).


Unless there's a specific exemption for C&R (I doubt it) or bolt-actions (almost certainly true), then it's still a rifle with a 10-round detachable magazine and one of the "scary" features.  The fact that it wasn't standard procedure to actually utilize the detachable magazine is irrelevant.
 
2013-03-22 03:55:15 PM  
I know what you're thinking. "Did he load 7 rounds into a 10 round magazine or did he fill it?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .40 Glock, the most popular handgun in the country, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
 
2013-03-22 03:59:57 PM  

jigger: I know what you're thinking. "Did he load 7 rounds into a 10 round magazine or did he fill it?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .40 Glock, the most popular handgun in the country, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?


I gots to know
 
2013-03-22 04:01:03 PM  

mrshowrules: There are pro-choicers on both sides of the aisle also. Generally speaking, pro-choicers generally have other ideas to help. Gun nuts (in general and on both sides of the aisle) don't bring anything useful to the table.


Can you elaborate on this?
 
2013-03-22 04:13:01 PM  

Frank N Stein: mrshowrules: There are pro-choicers on both sides of the aisle also. Generally speaking, pro-choicers generally have other ideas to help. Gun nuts (in general and on both sides of the aisle) don't bring anything useful to the table.

Can you elaborate on this?


I have upthread.   I was responding to someone else's comment.  Two unrelated issues.  Gun violence and abortion.

In summary, gun nuts don't want increased gun control but offer no other solutions.  Pro-choicers want abortion to remain legal but at least offer other solutions to reduce abortions in society.
 
2013-03-22 04:15:22 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Unless there's a specific exemption for C&R (I doubt it) or bolt-actions (almost certainly true), then it's still a rifle with a 10-round detachable magazine and one of the "scary" features.  The fact that it wasn't standard procedure to actually utilize the detachable magazine is irrelevant.


p. 18
Section 265.00 of penal law Chapter 198 of the laws of 2000 subdivision 22. (i,) e. (A.) bolt-action is exempt.
 
2013-03-22 04:20:03 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: An M-1 also can't hold a 30 or 100 round magazine.


REALLY?

15 round standard issue GI Mag:

www.brownells.com

30 Round "Banana Magazine"

cdn2.armslist.com

There are 90 and 100 round drum magazines available for the gun as well, but they're pretty rare as the M1 Carbine is a pretty Niche weapon.

Also, it's EXPENSIVE AS HELL to shoot. I haven't shot mine in almost four years because of how much a box of 30 carbine costs. To compare, I could blow off 150 rounds of .40 S&W range ammo for the price that a box of 50 rounds of 30 carbine is going in my area.
 
2013-03-22 04:21:32 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Fish in a Barrel: Unless there's a specific exemption for C&R (I doubt it) or bolt-actions (almost certainly true), then it's still a rifle with a 10-round detachable magazine and one of the "scary" features.  The fact that it wasn't standard procedure to actually utilize the detachable magazine is irrelevant.

p. 18
Section 265.00 of penal law Chapter 198 of the laws of 2000 subdivision 22. (i,) e. (A.) bolt-action is exempt.


I figured that was the case.  And for the record, the only reason I'm knit picking this is because it's a slow day at work.
 
2013-03-22 04:24:07 PM  

hardinparamedic: cameroncrazy1984: An M-1 also can't hold a 30 or 100 round magazine.

REALLY?

15 round standard issue GI Mag:

[www.brownells.com image 400x400]

30 Round "Banana Magazine"

[cdn2.armslist.com image 640x480]

There are 90 and 100 round drum magazines available for the gun as well, but they're pretty rare as the M1 Carbine is a pretty Niche weapon.

Also, it's EXPENSIVE AS HELL to shoot. I haven't shot mine in almost four years because of how much a box of 30 carbine costs. To compare, I could blow off 150 rounds of .40 S&W range ammo for the price that a box of 50 rounds of 30 carbine is going in my area.


Look up thread at the context of his post.  He's responding to a post about the M1 Garand.  That has a fixed, internal 8-round magazine.
 
2013-03-22 04:33:46 PM  

mrshowrules: The AWB is DOA because of politics.


The AWB is dead because it didn't work the last time. All these laws have done so far is entrap citizens.

It was a con job from the start and people caught on to it.
Giving it a second chance would have sunk the remaining gun regulation effort.

/Not that politicians aren't bastards, but give them some credit for learning from their mistakes.
 
2013-03-22 04:36:28 PM  
Sounds like a golden opportunity for magazine manufacturers.

/go get 'em, Condé Nast!
 
2013-03-22 04:52:17 PM  

mrshowrules: Frank N Stein: mrshowrules: There are pro-choicers on both sides of the aisle also. Generally speaking, pro-choicers generally have other ideas to help. Gun nuts (in general and on both sides of the aisle) don't bring anything useful to the table.

Can you elaborate on this?

I have upthread.   I was responding to someone else's comment.  Two unrelated issues.  Gun violence and abortion.

In summary, gun nuts don't want increased gun control but offer no other solutions.


On the other hand, gun-control advocates aren't proposing anything except the AWB, which doesn't control crime at all, so.......?
 
2013-03-22 04:54:59 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Look up thread at the context of his post.  He's responding to a post about the M1 Garand.  That has a fixed, internal 8-round magazine.


Ah. Touche.

When he said "magazine", I assumed he meant the Carbine, since the M1 Garand loads from stripper clips.
 
2013-03-22 04:56:51 PM  

hardinparamedic: Fish in a Barrel: Look up thread at the context of his post.  He's responding to a post about the M1 Garand.  That has a fixed, internal 8-round magazine.

Ah. Touche.

When he said "magazine", I assumed he meant the Carbine, since the M1 Garand loads from stripper with en-bloc clips.


I'm just being a pedantic douche today.
 
2013-03-22 04:58:55 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Good. Any legislation that can actually be passed is a start. This is getting out of control.

Btw: 2883 gun deaths in the US since Newtown.


How many were criminals shot in the act?
 
2013-03-22 04:59:16 PM  

mrshowrules: I said "NRA/ gun enthusiasts" originally. There are pro-choicers on both sides of the aisle also. Generally speaking, pro-choicers generally have other ideas to help. Gun nuts (in general and on both sides of the aisle) don't bring anything useful to the table.


Well, what do you define as "useful"? I wouldn't expect gun owners to express support for additional restrictions on gun rights any more than I'd expect the ACLU to support restrictions on free speech. Just because pro-gun-rights people haven't proposed gun control laws doesn't mean they haven't made suggestions that have merit.

I, for one, support all manner of things that I think would be reasonably effective at reducing violent crime: helping people in low-income communities through various methods (e.g. education and housing assistance, job training/assistance, etc.), ending the War on (some) Drugs, helping people with living meaningful alternatives to gang life, cracking down on gun and drug trafficking, better resources for the mentally ill, improved data reporting for the background check system, allowing private sellers to access the background check system, etc.

In regards to gun control, that ship sailed long ago. There's no real going back in regards to firearms being accessible -- sure, you can limit access through legal sources but that won't do much if you don't cut down on the illegal markets. With 3D printing of guns being relatively easy, even draconian restrictions have limited effect.
 

The AWB is DOA because of politics.

That, and the fact that it's a useless law that restricts lawful access to the most popular guns in the country (which are used only rarely in crime) and completely misses the point. It's been tried before and has had no effect on violent crime.

/slightly drunk. I blame any errors in my post on tasty beer.
 
2013-03-22 05:00:29 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: "Rushed" meaning the gun lobby failed to halt it.


Meaning they didn't even follow NY's CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED reading period before voting on it.

The derp is strong with you.
 
2013-03-22 05:00:48 PM  

BayouOtter: mrshowrules: Frank N Stein: mrshowrules: There are pro-choicers on both sides of the aisle also. Generally speaking, pro-choicers generally have other ideas to help. Gun nuts (in general and on both sides of the aisle) don't bring anything useful to the table.

Can you elaborate on this?

I have upthread.   I was responding to someone else's comment.  Two unrelated issues.  Gun violence and abortion.

In summary, gun nuts don't want increased gun control but offer no other solutions.

On the other hand, gun-control advocates aren't proposing anything except the AWB, which doesn't control crime at all, so.......?


Anti-gun advocate:  We need an assault weapons ban!
Pro-gun advocate:  We tried that.  It didn't do anything.
AGA: Oh my God!  Why are you being obstructionist?  Don't you care that people are dying?  Why don't you offer some solutions?  THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
PGA:  How about we improve mental health care and actually prosecute people who lie on their 4473s?
AGA:  I can't hear you over the sound of my outrage.
 
2013-03-22 05:05:12 PM  

shamanwest: Maybe instead of biatching about the laws that get passed the gun lobby and their mouth pieces can sit down to discuss real effective compromises for legislation. When you stick your fingers in your ears and say "la la la" this is what happens.


Hey farkwad - "compromise" for your side is how much of the cake can we have this time. The answer is none so go farkyourself.
 
2013-03-22 05:10:54 PM  

CujoQuarrel: Community Agitator: Well, regardless of WHAT restriction they end up having, at least they will put agents on every road entering New York state to search every vehicle coming in from a different state that might sell the 15 or 30 round magazines.

For the children.

Well, according to their new logic it seems to me that you can have any size magazine as long as you only put 7 rounds in it. There is no difference to a 10 round clip loaded with 7 to a 30 round clip loaded with 7.


Oh nice now I can miscount and become a fellon :)
 
2013-03-22 05:16:42 PM  

Gosling: shamanwest: Maybe instead of biatching about the laws that get passed the gun lobby and their mouth pieces can sit down to discuss real effective compromises for legislation. When you stick your fingers in your ears and say "la la la" this is what happens.

Precisely. By stomping feet and offering nothing but refusal and distractions and saying absolutely nothing will ever work and threats to go out and buy All The Guns for purposes of some ill-defined Preparation, what has happened is the gun lobby removed itself from the actual substantive debate. If the gun-control legislation that ultimately results is hard-line and draconian, that is the gun lobby's fault for failure to seriously participate in its drafting. They had their chance to provide real insight. They refused, adamantly refused, to do so. So the legislation was written without them.


Debate?  There was no farking debate.  Did you miss it where the bill was crammed down the throat of the citizenry as fast as they could specifically to eliminate debate?

Besides... NYS already has an AWB and draconian gun laws.  There should be no more compromise.
 
2013-03-22 05:23:26 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: DrRatchet: only impact law-abiding gun owners

like that Sandy Hook shooter. A law abiding, NRA, good Christian


Bullshiat.
 
2013-03-22 05:52:17 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Good. Any legislation that can actually be passed is a start. This is getting out of control.

Btw: 2883 gun deaths in the US since Newtown.


How many dead from obesity related problems? Forced exercise for all.
 
2013-03-22 05:59:04 PM  

hardinparamedic: Woohoo!!! M1911s for everybody!!!!!


probably been THISd several dozen times but

THIS
 
2013-03-22 06:12:31 PM  

BayouOtter: Princess Ryans Knickers: DrRatchet: only impact law-abiding gun owners

like that Sandy Hook shooter. A law abiding, NRA, good Christian

The guy that murdered his mother, stole her property, and broke a score of laws before he killed some kids? The guy that tried, and failed to lawfully acquire weapons? The one that, if investigated after failing his background check might have been stopped? That guy?


Holy crap, the VP actually said that there was no time to prosecute people who lie on their background checks. I mean it comes from the Daily Caller, and might be a little suspect but of the Administration is saying fark it we are not going to enforce a law that might do some good. we are in trouble. Also end the War on Drugs, and do make sure that Psyche Coverage is mandatory in the Healthcare reform policies.
 
2013-03-22 06:31:08 PM  

BMulligan: Car_Ramrod: snowjack: if a law abiding citizen gets caught in a firefight through no fault of their own

As will happen. Got caught in 3 firefights just last week.

I guffawed at that line, and chortled at your response.


Sure, mock away. But think about it: how often do business owners use guns to defend themselves from armed robbers, compared with how often mass shootings happen? Jewelry stores, convenience stores, pawn shops... armed robberies don't generally make national news. But those are the people these laws will really be disarming. Just because (armed) police create a nice soft comfy environment for you where you don't normally have to think about these things, doesn't mean they don't happen.
 
2013-03-22 06:35:38 PM  
Fish in a Barrel:
Anti-gun advocate:  We need an assault weapons ban!
Pro-gun advocate:  We tried that.  It didn't do anything.
AGA: Oh my God!  Why are you being obstructionist?  Don't you care that people are dying?  Why don't you offer some solutions?  THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
PGA:  How about we improve mental health care and actually prosecute people who lie on their 4473s?
AGA:  I can't hear you over the sound of my outrage.


 I totally agree with you. But you have to admit it's kinda interesting how the Right didn't give a shiat about the public availability of health care, especially mental health care, until the Left started talking gun control.
 
2013-03-22 06:50:24 PM  

snowjack: Fish in a Barrel:
Anti-gun advocate:  We need an assault weapons ban!
Pro-gun advocate:  We tried that.  It didn't do anything.
AGA: Oh my God!  Why are you being obstructionist?  Don't you care that people are dying?  Why don't you offer some solutions?  THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
PGA:  How about we improve mental health care and actually prosecute people who lie on their 4473s?
AGA:  I can't hear you over the sound of my outrage.

 I totally agree with you. But you have to admit it's kinda interesting how the Right didn't give a shiat about the public availability of health care, especially mental health care, until the Left started talking gun control.




The left never stopped talking about gun control. They've been on this tilt since the sixties and have sponsored hundreds of laws nation wide.

What happened was all the crazies abandoned in the aftermath of our mental health collapse have started to Spill out of the woodwork, committing more brazen attacks (probably influenced,in no small part, by popular media and constant coverage of these attacks).
You now have a mental health problem to go along with your drug war problems.
 
2013-03-22 06:56:09 PM  

snowjack: BMulligan: Car_Ramrod: snowjack: if a law abiding citizen gets caught in a firefight through no fault of their own

As will happen. Got caught in 3 firefights just last week.

I guffawed at that line, and chortled at your response.

Sure, mock away. But think about it: how often do business owners use guns to defend themselves from armed robbers, compared with how often mass shootings happen? Jewelry stores, convenience stores, pawn shops... armed robberies don't generally make national news. But those are the people these laws will really be disarming. Just because (armed) police create a nice soft comfy environment for you where you don't normally have to think about these things, doesn't mean they don't happen.


According to the FBI, approximately 354,400 armed robberies in 2011. And no proposed laws that I've seen would disarm any of the business owners, assuming they're not criminals or mentally ill.
Would you be so kind as to provide a citation of a law that would?
 
2013-03-22 07:20:29 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Good. Any legislation that can actually be passed is a start. This is getting out of control.

Btw: 2883 gun deaths in the US since Newtown.



Citation please
 
2013-03-22 07:55:21 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Good. Any legislation that can actually be passed is a start. This is getting out of control.

Btw: 2883 gun deaths in the US since Newtown.


How many of these occurred with firearms that were already illegal?
 
2013-03-22 08:08:15 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: snowjack: BMulligan: Car_Ramrod: snowjack: if a law abiding citizen gets caught in a firefight through no fault of their own

As will happen. Got caught in 3 firefights just last week.

I guffawed at that line, and chortled at your response.

Sure, mock away. But think about it: how often do business owners use guns to defend themselves from armed robbers, compared with how often mass shootings happen? Jewelry stores, convenience stores, pawn shops... armed robberies don't generally make national news. But those are the people these laws will really be disarming. Just because (armed) police create a nice soft comfy environment for you where you don't normally have to think about these things, doesn't mean they don't happen.

According to the FBI, approximately 354,400 armed robberies in 2011. And no proposed laws that I've seen would disarm any of the business owners, assuming they're not criminals or mentally ill.
Would you be so kind as to provide a citation of a law that would?


My original post was complaining about outlawing the standard magazines that came in the box with the Smith & Wesson 9mm I bought for home defense, which carries 17 rounds. Probably a similar capacity Joe Biden's Beretta handgun, which in 2008 he promised 'would not be messed with' in an Obama presidency. One of the promises I had strongly in mind when I gave him my vote in 2008.
 
2013-03-22 11:35:21 PM  

hardinparamedic: cameroncrazy1984: An M-1 also can't hold a 30 or 100 round magazine.

REALLY?

15 round standard issue GI Mag:

[www.brownells.com image 400x400]

30 Round "Banana Magazine"

[cdn2.armslist.com image 640x480]

There are 90 and 100 round drum magazines available for the gun as well, but they're pretty rare as the M1 Carbine is a pretty Niche weapon.

Also, it's EXPENSIVE AS HELL to shoot. I haven't shot mine in almost four years because of how much a box of 30 carbine costs. To compare, I could blow off 150 rounds of .40 S&W range ammo for the price that a box of 50 rounds of 30 carbine is going in my area.


Oh look, another idiot that doesn't understand the difference between a Garand and a Carbine. I bet you think they're both the same platform too, eh?
 
2013-03-23 12:03:53 AM  
Voting for gun coontroll is political suicide for any politician that isn't elected solely by frightened inner city dwellers.   When most of this coontry is populated by by people that want or have to live in the inner city, you moonbats will get your "control" (no guns of any kind for anybody).  Until then you can spew your retarded, misguided, emotionally contaminated shiat all you want but you will still be wrong every single farking time.

/think of the children
//coont
 
2013-03-23 01:28:01 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Oh look, another idiot that doesn't understand the difference between a Garand and a Carbine. I bet you think they're both the same platform too, eh?


Oh, look. Someone who mentioned M1 and Magazine in the same sentence, and expects to be taken as talking about the full sized, clip-fed version.

You're the special kind of stupid, especially since I own an M1 Carbine.
 
2013-03-23 01:35:50 AM  

hardinparamedic: Oh, look. Someone who mentioned M1 and Magazine in the same sentence, and expects to be taken as talking about the full sized, clip-fed version.


Hey, it's not my fault you can't read. The discussion was about the Garand, and I said that it doesn't accept magazines.

Apparently owning an M-1 Carbine doesn't make you read better.
 
2013-03-23 01:40:25 AM  
Oh, and if you knew anything about the weapon you "supposedly" own, you would know that the M-1 Carbine has literally nothing to do with the Garand aside from the designation "M-1." They're not even the same caliber. They don't share any parts. They are literally nothing alike.
 
2013-03-23 01:41:22 AM  

Epoch_Zero: Good. Any legislation that can actually be passed is a start. This is getting out of control.

Btw: 2883 gun deaths in the US since Newtown.


How many lives would've been saved by a <7 round magazine law?
 
2013-03-23 02:03:20 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Oh, and if you knew anything about the weapon you "supposedly" own, you would know that the M-1 Carbine has literally nothing to do with the Garand aside from the designation "M-1." They're not even the same caliber. They don't share any parts. They are literally nothing alike.


That's fine. You can believe me or not. Quite frankly, it doesn't affect me either way. If you'd like, you can leave me your email address, and when I go to my parents house in Savannah sunday, I'll be happy to open up the safe and take a picture of the collection I have bought/inherited over the past few years.

However, just for fun, let's look at what you wrote.

Your original post:

cameroncrazy1984:
 An M-1 also can't hold a 30 or 100 round magazine.

Oh look. You're mad because you got called out on making a purposely vague post to bait responses by just listing the military designation of numerous weapons systems, and then act smug because other people can't read your mind and automatically deduct that you're talking about a clip fed rifle when you mention an M-descriptor applied to multiple weapons, and mention magazines.

And actually, (fun fact) they DO share a part with the Garand - the buttplate screws in the M1 Fixed Stock version.

www.myfacewhen.net
 
2013-03-23 02:04:57 AM  

Community Agitator: CujoQuarrel: Community Agitator: Well, regardless of WHAT restriction they end up having, at least they will put agents on every road entering New York state to search every vehicle coming in from a different state that might sell the 15 or 30 round magazines.

For the children.

Well, according to their new logic it seems to me that you can have any size magazine as long as you only put 7 rounds in it. There is no difference to a 10 round clip loaded with 7 to a 30 round clip loaded with 7.


So, this mean the next mass shooting will be more tolerable because the shooter only loads 7 rounds into 15 round magazines.
Gotcha


Yep. If the mass shooter had loaded more than 7 it would have been illegal
 
2013-03-23 02:10:28 AM  

CPennypacker: Subby and the Post are apparently unfamiliar with the mathematical concept of "greater than"


Of course they are! The 2nd Amendment is in DANGER (??) There's no time for your liberal "facts" and "figures"!!! RUN! RUN OUT AND BUY A GUN!!
 
2013-03-23 02:13:11 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: They're not even the same caliber.


This just in cameroncrazy1984 has no farking clue what the the 30 in 30-06 represents

I'm Ric Romero
 
2013-03-23 02:28:08 AM  

hardinparamedic: making a purposely vague post


The post isn't vague if you read the entire conversation. You'll notice that the Garand is mentioned in several other posts that were replied to. Again, not my fault you can't read.

Rivetman1.0: cameroncrazy1984: They're not even the same caliber.

This just in cameroncrazy1984 has no farking clue what the the 30 in 30-06 represents

I'm Ric Romero


Okay, go ahead and try to use a .30-06 in an M-1 Carbine and see how well that works out for you.

Jesus Christ no wonder nobody gives a sh*t about you gun nuts. You don't even understand your own f*cking weapons.
 
2013-03-23 02:29:15 AM  

hardinparamedic: nd actually, (fun fact) they DO share a part with the Garand - the buttplate screws in the M1 Fixed Stock version.


You have got to be kidding me if you're going to be that pedantic. Are you ready now to admit that you jumped on a comment that was made 12 hours ago without reading the conversation that it pertained to and were completely wrong about it?
 
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